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Dynasty Value Discussion Thread (5 Viewers)
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Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
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wlwiles
Footballguy
I offered Goedert for him straight up to a guy who has Harris as his RB5/6 and he rejected (has Logan Thomas as his only TE).
Tau837
Footballguy
Interesting. This is why I asked. I have the 1.6 pick, and I checked out the latest dynasty value chart by @Dan Hindery. it shows the top 6 rookie values in Superflex as:
- 42 QB Lawrence
- 40 QB Lance
- 36 QB Fields
- 36 WR Chase
- 35 RB Harris
- 33 TE Pitts
But I think I would value him in Superflex more than Fields and Lance, personally, since he is proven and they are not. Obviously, they are ~10 years younger than him, yet Wilson should still have at least 5 strong years remaining, and I'm not terribly inclined to look at 5-10 year timelines.
So that take suggests that he is worth more than the 1.6 pick, perhaps more than the 1.2-1.4 picks, depending on one's view of how to value QBs vs. Chase, Harris, and Pitts in Superflex.
Another site's trade value sheet shows Wilson worth ~6% more than Lawrence.
Based on the way the question was originally answered, I would agree: Wilson is worth a pair of random 1sts. But the 1.01 is also worth a pair of random 1sts.
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Tau837
Footballguy
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
What's the going rate for Tyler Lockett?
He's worth more to your roster than you're likely to get in trade value. Late 1st is the best you can hope for, IMO
BespokeJort
Footballguy
Yeah the trade values I’ve seen have been rough for a 28 year old who was wr9 overall. Sure he was a little boom/bust, but I’m happy to have him if my roster is strong. Saw people talking about Julio or Michael Carter over him, which is wild to me.
If a non-contender has him you may be able to pry him away for cheap.
If a non-contender has him you may be able to pry him away for cheap.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Ooh. What does everyone think the trade value of the 1.02 is once Pitts has been taken?
Worth the 1.04 and 1.07 or something like it? What's two first round picks or a player you'd give up for Harris or Chase, or would you?
TIApeace.
Worth the 1.04 and 1.07 or something like it? What's two first round picks or a player you'd give up for Harris or Chase, or would you?
TIApeace.
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
Anyone seeing any Hubbard trades lately in PPR? I own CMC so figured I'd take a shot by offering Doaks & Hawkins & the Hubbard owner got angry saying it'll take more than 2 practice squad players. I thought that was a little harsh & uncalled for.
Asked him what he is thinking & he went dark. Nice guy, huh?
Asked him what he is thinking & he went dark. Nice guy, huh?
ffmail4me
Footballguy
and the irony is Hawkins could end up seeing more burn than Hubbard anyway.Anyone seeing any Hubbard trades lately in PPR? I own CMC so figured I'd take a shot by offering Doaks & Hawkins & the Hubbard owner got angry saying it'll take more than 2 practice squad players. I thought that was a little harsh & uncalled for.
Asked him what he is thinking & he went dark. Nice guy, huh?
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
That's what I was thinking, but what do I know. He probably just wants to gouge me b/c I own CMC
foxco
Footballguy
If I had the 1.02 I'd sell it for 1.04/1.07 easy. Think it may be more like 1.04 and an early 2nd as the 1.04 still holds a decent amount of value IMO.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, my only thought is that there is really a big three and then a drop-off to the 1.04 this year. There are now names and preseason to go with the slots, so the gap between, say, a Najee Harris and Ja'Marr Chase is big compared to an Etienne or a J. Williams. I would not take the 1.04 and 2.04 for the 1.02. In our league, it's the fourth and fifteen picks. There's not enough value at fifteen for me to do that.
robb
Footballguy
foxco
Footballguy
For me it's a big 4 as I love Williams and have him close to Harris, but I see your point if you have a dropoff after 3. Trick is to find someone who sees it the same way and is willing to pay.
rockaction
Footballguy
Somebody actually told me they'd be "forced" to take Williams. That person has the 4, 7, 8. Hmmm...
I own him nowhere, but feel like it would take a 2nd round pick or equivalent player to pry him away after he’s gotten some good press latelyAnyone seeing any Hubbard trades lately in PPR? I own CMC so figured I'd take a shot by offering Doaks & Hawkins & the Hubbard owner got angry saying it'll take more than 2 practice squad players. I thought that was a little harsh & uncalled for.
Asked him what he is thinking & he went dark. Nice guy, huh?
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Offered Mixon/Kittle for Gibson/Andrews recently and it got me thinking about WHEN to accept trades that are ostensibly higher value but not necessarily better for your team. In this instance, my RB group is thin (even more so swapping gibson for Mixon), but my WR group is exceptionally strong. At what point is it worthwhile to accept the trade and try to flip one of you other assets to bolster a weak spot?
why would swapping Mixon for Gibson leave your RB group thinner? More injury prone in your opinion.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
jm192
Footballguy
I think it's close. I'd probably lean Fields given he's a smidge younger and seems to have higher rushing upside. Tua has a lot of weapons and it won't surprise me if he figures it out and winds up being a good fantasy piece.
jm192
Footballguy
Rhamondre Stevenson value after the Michel trade? We have a couple rookie drafts still yet to come and no idea how high to go on him after the Michel trade. I was going to target him late 2nd, but between his pre-season showing and now the trade giving him a path to some work this season--fear he shoots up. I can't see spending a 1st.
battlestar
Footballguy
Posted this in the James Robinson thread but interested in thoughts:
I’ve got a verbal offer of his Allen Robinson for my James Robinson.
I am thin at RB with Cook, Swift, Robinson, James White, Mattison, Kylin Hill and a bit better at WR, though we start three and I am rolling with: Tyreek, AJ Brown and Marvin Jones (with Mooney and Rondale coming and Quez and Crowder).
Sell high? I feel like it’s the right move plus a rebuilder has Ekeler that I think I can deal for. Just feels like too good of an opportunity to upgrade from a guy who may still be a risky pick next year to an elite receiver with a deep ball specialist coming.
What say you shark poolians?
I’ve got a verbal offer of his Allen Robinson for my James Robinson.
I am thin at RB with Cook, Swift, Robinson, James White, Mattison, Kylin Hill and a bit better at WR, though we start three and I am rolling with: Tyreek, AJ Brown and Marvin Jones (with Mooney and Rondale coming and Quez and Crowder).
Sell high? I feel like it’s the right move plus a rebuilder has Ekeler that I think I can deal for. Just feels like too good of an opportunity to upgrade from a guy who may still be a risky pick next year to an elite receiver with a deep ball specialist coming.
What say you shark poolians?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
He went late second months ago in some leagues - due to RB scarcity. I think he’s gone by the mid-second now and likely early second in some leagues.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Allen > James, and you’re thin at WR also. Take the value and figure out RB later.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Heat check on CMC?
Im in a position in which i should be rebuilding - but also own CMC.
wondering what you guys are looking for/accepting in a trade for him. Thinking a 1st round rookie pick, and a starter is the minimum at this point. J’Marr Chase plus a 1st type deals.
any thoughts would be helpful. Maybe I’m over valuing CMC - but he’s a clear league winner imo … I just have too many needs to hold at this point.
Im in a position in which i should be rebuilding - but also own CMC.
wondering what you guys are looking for/accepting in a trade for him. Thinking a 1st round rookie pick, and a starter is the minimum at this point. J’Marr Chase plus a 1st type deals.
any thoughts would be helpful. Maybe I’m over valuing CMC - but he’s a clear league winner imo … I just have too many needs to hold at this point.
kutta
Footballguy
I agree.
Before Saquon's injury last year, I traded him for essentially four first rounders. I've seen trades in this thread for Dalvin Cook for 3 first rounders (or maybe four). CMC is worth more than those guys, so anything less than three good first rounders is too light, IMO.
woodstock
Footballguy
Blick
Footballguy
Has anyone seen any trades involving Gus Edwards yet? On one hand, he should have an increased workload and high TD potential this season that would put his value in the mid to late round one range. On the other, he will go right back into more of a timeshare next season with the potential it could still happen this season. For a long term planner, that probably puts him in the early 2nd range. So does late 1st/early 2nd seem about right?
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
Hubbard's value skyrocket or something? I think the guy is just trying to fleece me since I own CMC. He asked for Aiyuk for his Hubbard & two 2nd round picks. I could not hit decline fast enough. (Dynasty PPR)
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Rhamondre Stevenson in non-ppr? Value climbed to a 2nd yet?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Chuba has looked great this preseason, so I'm sure his value went up - I love Aiyuk and don't think it's a great offer but it's not a terrible starting point.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
That's where we disagree. I'm of the belief to try and not insult someone with a bad first offer. So no, I don't think it was a good starting point at all.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I didn't say it was "ok to insult anyone". If Hubbard's value is now a second rounder (especially to a CMc owner) - three second round picks for Aiyuk, while not something I would do, is not an insulting offer - unless you're very thin skinned.
lardonastick
Footballguy
You never know where someone’s head is at or how they may value players. There’s a difference in a low-ball offer and in insulting one. I’m trying to acquire assets for the least amount that I can pay, personally.
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
In a 1QB, PPR league with a difficult situation. Julio Jones to the Titans wasn't great for my team, as I have AJ Brown. I'd prefer to trade Julio for literally anything of value. What would you say is fair value for him? draft picks or youth?
Current WR's:
AJ Brown
Mike Evans
Julio Jones
Allen Robinson
Jerry Jeudy
Diontae Johnson
Jaylen Waddle
Michael Pittman
Bryan Edwards
Current WR's:
AJ Brown
Mike Evans
Julio Jones
Allen Robinson
Jerry Jeudy
Diontae Johnson
Jaylen Waddle
Michael Pittman
Bryan Edwards
Lehigh98
Footballguy
Price check on Teddy Bridgewater in SF (best ball)? I just joined the league and picked him up late in the dispersal draft hoping he'd land the starting job so I could flip him and here we are. Not sure if I should try to move him now for what I can get or wait and see if someone that's contending needs an extra QB (if he keeps the job).
While I'm asking, I'm also in the same situation with Tyrod Taylor grabbing him late in the same dispersal draft.
While I'm asking, I'm also in the same situation with Tyrod Taylor grabbing him late in the same dispersal draft.
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jm192
Footballguy
Aaron Rodgers price check? Single QB. 6 Points per passing TD. 0.5 PPR
I was offered Rodgers for McLaurin. I countered with Gallup for Rodgers, and was told I was way off base. He took Trey Lance in the rookie draft and I assume wants to move Rodgers while he's still got SOME value.
I considered countering with Higgins, but a 22 year old Higgins seems like way too much for a 37 year old QB.
If I had like Kupp or Woods, I'd probably lean towards moving one of them for Rodgers. But younger rising WR's seem like the wrong way to go.
I was offered Rodgers for McLaurin. I countered with Gallup for Rodgers, and was told I was way off base. He took Trey Lance in the rookie draft and I assume wants to move Rodgers while he's still got SOME value.
I considered countering with Higgins, but a 22 year old Higgins seems like way too much for a 37 year old QB.
If I had like Kupp or Woods, I'd probably lean towards moving one of them for Rodgers. But younger rising WR's seem like the wrong way to go.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
Mclaurin seems like too much and Gallup to little. Rodgers played at a very high level last year, but I agree he is up there in age so I wouldn't be giving up a young stud like McLaurin. Higgins is also too much. I think some of those aging vets OBJ, Julio, Kupp would be in the range or maybe like Deebo.
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