Dynasty Value Discussion Thread (10 Viewers)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I’d probably lean the Moore side to jump a tier and have a proven player.

That’s the temptation. His situation could be better though. That said, it would be nice to lock up Gilbbs & still get the WR1 of this class. With 1-4 I’d have to choose between them.

Also; I have plenty of roster space, so I could stick with the picks, no issue.

 

[ghostguy123]

I'd say give me Moore and 1.05. Especially if you can trade Moore for pick 6 or 7.
Cause give me 5/7 over 8/10/13 all day.
If not, ya have Moore. I'll take that either way.

Now, I guess if you are in super mega rebuild, I can also get on board with the three picks, especially knowing you have 1-4 already.

I don't know roster size and cut down, so would also factor in heavily here

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'd say give me Moore and 1.05. Especially if you can trade Moore for pick 6 or 7.
Cause give me 5/7 over 8/10/13 all day.
If not, ya have Moore. I'll take that either way.

Now, I guess if you are in super mega rebuild, I can also get on board with the three picks, especially knowing you have 1-4 already.

I don't know roster size and cut down, so would also factor in heavily here

I am in a heavy rebuild.

Roster size = plenty of room, so not an issue.

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

Appreciate the feedback

 

[ghostguy123]

I'd say give me Moore and 1.05. Especially if you can trade Moore for pick 6 or 7.
Cause give me 5/7 over 8/10/13 all day.
If not, ya have Moore. I'll take that either way.

Now, I guess if you are in super mega rebuild, I can also get on board with the three picks, especially knowing you have 1-4 already.

I don't know roster size and cut down, so would also factor in heavily here

I am in a heavy rebuild.

Roster size = plenty of room, so not an issue.

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

Appreciate the feedback

What are the roster sizes?

 

[ghostguy123]

Yeah, either way I think I go with 1.05 and Moore, then shop Moore at some point to see what's available, maybe future picks.

Edit....oh yeah, guessing with you it's superflex. Hmmmm, can't go wrong taking top 2 RBs and maybe top 3 QBs this year right?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'd say give me Moore and 1.05. Especially if you can trade Moore for pick 6 or 7.
Cause give me 5/7 over 8/10/13 all day.
If not, ya have Moore. I'll take that either way.

Now, I guess if you are in super mega rebuild, I can also get on board with the three picks, especially knowing you have 1-4 already.

I don't know roster size and cut down, so would also factor in heavily here

I am in a heavy rebuild.

Roster size = plenty of room, so not an issue.

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

Appreciate the feedback

What are the roster sizes?

30 man rosters. Start 10, no K, no D, SF. Lots of flex.

 

[menobrown]

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

What's your best guess of the players you'd pick 1-4?

 

[ghostguy123]

I'd say give me Moore and 1.05. Especially if you can trade Moore for pick 6 or 7.
Cause give me 5/7 over 8/10/13 all day.
If not, ya have Moore. I'll take that either way.

Now, I guess if you are in super mega rebuild, I can also get on board with the three picks, especially knowing you have 1-4 already.

I don't know roster size and cut down, so would also factor in heavily here

I am in a heavy rebuild.

Roster size = plenty of room, so not an issue.

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

Appreciate the feedback

What are the roster sizes?

30 man rosters. Start 10, no K, no D, SF. Lots of flex.

Yeah even with the huge rosters, 5 and Moore....then shop moore

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

What's your best guess of the players you'd pick 1-4?

depends. 1–2-3 likely Bijan, Stroud, Young, but of course NFL draft capital matters.

At 4 I’m torn between Gibbs & whomever is WR1 between JSN/Addison - again, landing spot will matter. Also I’d like to know Gibbs BMI.

Having 1-5 would ease that decision quite a bit. And Moore would ensure having another WR.

My team is a skeleton. Higgins, ARSB, Pitts, ETN, and some pieces. Holes everywhere. Moore + one of JSN or Addison would push Gabe Davis to WR5

If I go with picks I’m hoping to land one of QJ, Addison or JSN at 8, maybe a RB at 10, and maybe Boutte 2.01, but of course there are no guarantees of who slides.

So 1-5 also offers some clarity, but less chance of nabbing a value. It’s also 1 fewer player to roster. Of course that extra player could be a bust. I know what DJ Moore is.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

My autocorrect is out of control lately.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

maybe top 3 QBs this year right?

I don’t love Levis or Richardson. I’m already a little sketchy on Young, but it only takes 1 team to draft him.

Hoping to get Hooker at 3.01 - not sure if that’ll be realistic once actual draft SZN is here.

 

[ghostguy123]

maybe top 3 QBs this year right?

I don’t love Levis or Richardson. I’m already a little sketchy on Young, but it only takes 1 team to draft him.

Hoping to get Hooker at 3.01 - not sure if that’ll be realistic once actual draft SZN is here.

Ok then, get the 5. Draft your top 4, then auction off pick 5 when on the clock with Young still on the board and see what happens.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

maybe top 3 QBs this year right?

I don’t love Levis or Richardson. I’m already a little sketchy on Young, but it only takes 1 team to draft him.

Hoping to get Hooker at 3.01 - not sure if that’ll be realistic once actual draft SZN is here.

Ok then, get the 5. Draft your top 4, then auction off pick 5 when on the clock with Young still on the board and see what happens.

That’s something I’d considered. Not sure how the rest of my league values Young, but I could always just take him if I don’t get a good enough offer.

 

[menobrown]

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

What's your best guess of the players you'd pick 1-4?

depends. 1–2-3 likely Bijan, Stroud, Young, but of course NFL draft capital matters.

At 4 I’m torn between Gibbs & whomever is WR1 between JSN/Addison - again, landing spot will matter. Also I’d like to know Gibbs BMI.

Having 1-5 would ease that decision quite a bit. And Moore would ensure having another WR.

My team is a skeleton. Higgins, ARSB, Pitts, ETN, and some pieces. Holes everywhere. Moore + one of JSN or Addison would push Gabe Davis to WR5

If I go with picks I’m hoping to land one of QJ, Addison or JSN at 8, maybe a RB at 10, and maybe Boutte 2.01, but of course there are no guarantees of who slides.

So 1-5 also offers some clarity, but less chance of nabbing a value. It’s also 1 fewer player to roster. Of course that extra player could be a bust. I know what DJ Moore is.

Thanks, I don't play SF so was trying to get an idea of how the picks would go.

I'm huge on Gibbs myself and see a big drop between him and player 3 in non-SF. But I also have those two WR's you referenced a tier above any other WR. So for me personally I'd rather obtain the 5, draft two QB's, Bijan, Gibbs and one of those WR's and see what I can get for Moore but he's young so if the market is soft I'd have no problem holding him.

 

[foxco]

Hoping to get Hooker at 3.01 - not sure if that’ll be realistic once actual draft SZN is here.
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In SF? I'd be very surprised if Hooker made it that far. 1 QB sure but SF QBs go early and often.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

and see what I can get for Moore but he's young so if the market is soft I'd have no problem holding him.

I’m actually a fan of Moore’s game. He’s put up solid numbers with crap at QB, so he feels like a buy-low, with upside. Plus, as you can see, I need the WRs.

Appreciate the feedback.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

I'd say give me Moore and 1.05. Especially if you can trade Moore for pick 6 or 7.
Cause give me 5/7 over 8/10/13 all day.
If not, ya have Moore. I'll take that either way.

Now, I guess if you are in super mega rebuild, I can also get on board with the three picks, especially knowing you have 1-4 already.

I don't know roster size and cut down, so would also factor in heavily here

I am in a heavy rebuild.

Roster size = plenty of room, so not an issue.

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

Appreciate the feedback

I was wondering if this was your full blown rebuild or not. In that case, I'd probably lean toward the picks to increase the talent level of your roster overall. I'm guessing you're looking to compete in 24/25, so loading up on quality WRs/RBs and potentially a QB if one falls into your lap will go a long way to helping you toward competing. I'm kinda in the same boat with 1.02 in my full rebuild league. I spent this season (my first with this team/league) trading for QBs and managed to pull Fields and TLaw. It is SF, btw. I've got 1.02, 2.02, 2.03, 3.02 and 3.03 as well. I've been contemplating moving down from 1.02 into the 1.06 range to grab some extra picks and help load up on WR/RB talent that will get me into the playoffs by 24/25. Yes, it's a gamble and yes, I tend to prefer proven talent over the shiny new things in the draft, but at some point you (I) need players more talented than the luke-warm bodies I have on the bench.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Hoping to get Hooker at 3.01 - not sure if that’ll be realistic once actual draft SZN is here.

In SF? I'd be very surprised if Hooker made it that far. 1 QB sure but SF QBs go early and often.

Current SF mocks have him mid-3rd. He’s not going to be an immediate help, so I could see him moving up, but maybe not into the top 24.

 

[foxco]

Hoping to get Hooker at 3.01 - not sure if that’ll be realistic once actual draft SZN is here.

In SF? I'd be very surprised if Hooker made it that far. 1 QB sure but SF QBs go early and often.

Current SF mocks have him mid-3rd. He’s not going to be an immediate help, so I could see him moving up, but maybe not into the top 24.

Maybe. I dunno, in my SF leagues QBs are coveted like the One Ring to rule them all. If Hooker falls in the real draft I could see it though. But a guy like Kyle Trask was taken with the 2.01 a couple of years ago in one of my league, I remember cause I took him.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Yes, it's a gamble and yes, I tend to prefer proven talent over the shiny new things in the draft, but at some point you (I) need players more talented than the luke-warm bodies I have on the bench.

This is the part that’s kept me from making the offer.

I basically have 4 players & some odds and ends that could be valuable (KJO, Pacheco, Mattison, Bell, GDavis, Deon Jackson, Mason, and a few upside TEs like Conklin, Fortson, Gray, JuJennings, & Likely)

So having 7 picks/players might help more than having 6?

But quality over quantity, landing both Gibbs & say, JSN is what moving up to 5 gives me. Plus more depth at WR with the known asset.

The gamble is if Boutte or Hyatt or whatever WR I get at 2.01 can be better than DJ Moore. Or if the RB I can get at 1.10 is as good as, or better than Gibbs.

It’s a really challenging call.

 

[joey]

Yes, it's a gamble and yes, I tend to prefer proven talent over the shiny new things in the draft, but at some point you (I) need players more talented than the luke-warm bodies I have on the bench.

This is the part that’s kept me from making the offer.

I basically have 4 players & some odds and ends that could be valuable (KJO, Pacheco, Mattison, Bell, GDavis, Deon Jackson, Mason, and a few upside TEs like Conklin, Fortson, Gray, JuJennings, & Likely)

So having 7 picks/players might help more than having 6?

But quality over quantity, landing both Gibbs & say, JSN is what moving up to 5 gives me. Plus more depth at WR with the known asset.

The gamble is if Boutte or Hyatt or whatever WR I get at 2.01 can be better than DJ Moore. Or if the RB I can get at 1.10 is as good as, or better than Gibbs.

It’s a really challenging call.

Can you wait to make the offer until AFTER the NFL a draft so you know who your top 5, 10, and 15 players are to better guess at who might fall to those late 1st, early 2nd picks? Thats what I’d prefer doing unless this is an Offer that’s already simmering on the stove top.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Can you wait to make the offer until AFTER the NFL a draft so you know who your top 5, 10, and 15 players are to better guess at who might fall to those late 1st, early 2nd picks? Thats what I’d prefer doing unless this is an Offer that’s already simmering on the stove top.

So yes and no.

I mean sure, any offer can wait. But waiting for that info also gives my prospective trade partner that info. Maybe he falls in love with JSN or Gibbs after the combine. Maybe Gibbs goes to KC in the NFL draft, etc.

And also we’re engaging in discussion now with mutual interest in making a trade - sometimes ya gotta strike while the iron’s hot.

 

[Birdie048]

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

What's your best guess of the players you'd pick 1-4?

depends. 1–2-3 likely Bijan, Stroud, Young, but of course NFL draft capital matters.

At 4 I’m torn between Gibbs & whomever is WR1 between JSN/Addison - again, landing spot will matter. Also I’d like to know Gibbs BMI.

Having 1-5 would ease that decision quite a bit. And Moore would ensure having another WR.

My team is a skeleton. Higgins, ARSB, Pitts, ETN, and some pieces. Holes everywhere. Moore + one of JSN or Addison would push Gabe Davis to WR5

If I go with picks I’m hoping to land one of QJ, Addison or JSN at 8, maybe a RB at 10, and maybe Boutte 2.01, but of course there are no guarantees of who slides.

So 1-5 also offers some clarity, but less chance of nabbing a value. It’s also 1 fewer player to roster. Of course that extra player could be a bust. I know what DJ Moore is.

So looking at it from Starting Lineup perspective…. Start 10 and assume SF so 2 QB (picks 2 & 3), 1 RB (ETN), 2 WR (Higgins, ASRB), 1 TE (Pitts) & 4 Flex (Bijan, X1, X2 & X3)

So, if you trade 8,10 & 13 you only have DJMoore as X1 & 5 = X2 and current end of bench fills X3.
Or 8 = X1, 10 = X2 & 13 = X3
I like DJ + 5 as less risk more reward option

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I like DJ + 5 as less risk more reward option

Same.

 

[Blick]

There is some discussion in the Dynasty Trades thread around Christian Watson's value in 2023 picks. I thought a larger discussion may we worthwhile comparing not only him, but also Pickens and Dotson (3 late 1st/early 2nd WRs that showed some level of success) compared to this year's rookies.

In 1 QB leagues, there seems to be a consensus of Bijan, Gibbs, JSN, Addison, and Johnston. I don't think I'd put any of them above these players. I also think at least one other player may join this tier based on combine performance and/or draft capital (maybe Charbonnet, Miller, Boutte, etc.) But I think Watson belongs in the next few picks. Given that Pickens and Dotson did nothing to lose value, I think I may also put them there as well. Given that rookie fever is about to spread through the community, I may try to send some later 1sts (1.09-1.12) to try to get these guys. Am I overvaluing these guys?

 

[Rookiefever]

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

What's your best guess of the players you'd pick 1-4?

depends. 1–2-3 likely Bijan, Stroud, Young, but of course NFL draft capital matters.

At 4 I’m torn between Gibbs & whomever is WR1 between JSN/Addison - again, landing spot will matter. Also I’d like to know Gibbs BMI.

Having 1-5 would ease that decision quite a bit. And Moore would ensure having another WR.

My team is a skeleton. Higgins, ARSB, Pitts, ETN, and some pieces. Holes everywhere. Moore + one of JSN or Addison would push Gabe Davis to WR5

If I go with picks I’m hoping to land one of QJ, Addison or JSN at 8, maybe a RB at 10, and maybe Boutte 2.01, but of course there are no guarantees of who slides.

So 1-5 also offers some clarity, but less chance of nabbing a value. It’s also 1 fewer player to roster. Of course that extra player could be a bust. I know what DJ Moore is.

What qbs do you have?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

What's your best guess of the players you'd pick 1-4?

depends. 1–2-3 likely Bijan, Stroud, Young, but of course NFL draft capital matters.

At 4 I’m torn between Gibbs & whomever is WR1 between JSN/Addison - again, landing spot will matter. Also I’d like to know Gibbs BMI.

Having 1-5 would ease that decision quite a bit. And Moore would ensure having another WR.

My team is a skeleton. Higgins, ARSB, Pitts, ETN, and some pieces. Holes everywhere. Moore + one of JSN or Addison would push Gabe Davis to WR5

If I go with picks I’m hoping to land one of QJ, Addison or JSN at 8, maybe a RB at 10, and maybe Boutte 2.01, but of course there are no guarantees of who slides.

So 1-5 also offers some clarity, but less chance of nabbing a value. It’s also 1 fewer player to roster. Of course that extra player could be a bust. I know what DJ Moore is.

What qbs do you have?

Uh, Zach Wilson, Bailey Zappe, & Mike White?

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

What's your best guess of the players you'd pick 1-4?

depends. 1–2-3 likely Bijan, Stroud, Young, but of course NFL draft capital matters.

At 4 I’m torn between Gibbs & whomever is WR1 between JSN/Addison - again, landing spot will matter. Also I’d like to know Gibbs BMI.

Having 1-5 would ease that decision quite a bit. And Moore would ensure having another WR.

My team is a skeleton. Higgins, ARSB, Pitts, ETN, and some pieces. Holes everywhere. Moore + one of JSN or Addison would push Gabe Davis to WR5

If I go with picks I’m hoping to land one of QJ, Addison or JSN at 8, maybe a RB at 10, and maybe Boutte 2.01, but of course there are no guarantees of who slides.

So 1-5 also offers some clarity, but less chance of nabbing a value. It’s also 1 fewer player to roster. Of course that extra player could be a bust. I know what DJ Moore is.

What qbs do you have?

Uh, Zach Wilson, Bailey Zappe, & Mike White?

, &

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

, &

Never said they weren’t.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

, &

Never said they weren’t.

I get it. You took a swing on Wilson and it didn't pay off. White was probably a waiver wire pickup who played pretty well.
Even more reason to not trade up for 1.01 right now. I'd keep those two first rounders and take as many qbs as possible. What's the hit rate on NFL first round draft capital qbs historically? 50%? That's probably generous. Assuming that's correct, you'll walk away from the 2023 draft with 1 QB worth a damn and an open SF slot. I might be inclined to keep that 1.08 and 1.10 for another few shots at QB.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I get it. You took a swing on Wilson and it didn't pay off. White was probably a waiver wire pickup who played pretty well.

No, Wilson was one of the 5 pieces I got back for Mahomes before his rookie year.

Higgins, and what now my 1.01, 1.02 and 1.10 are the rest.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I might be inclined to keep that 1.08 and 1.10 for another few shots at QB.

It’s tempting. It’s also tempting to take Young & Stroud and stack on value elsewhere.

I do like Moore more than most. But yeah - if ARich makes it to 1.08 I’d be smart to take him.

 

[Rookiefever]

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

What's your best guess of the players you'd pick 1-4?

depends. 1–2-3 likely Bijan, Stroud, Young, but of course NFL draft capital matters.

At 4 I’m torn between Gibbs & whomever is WR1 between JSN/Addison - again, landing spot will matter. Also I’d like to know Gibbs BMI.

Having 1-5 would ease that decision quite a bit. And Moore would ensure having another WR.

My team is a skeleton. Higgins, ARSB, Pitts, ETN, and some pieces. Holes everywhere. Moore + one of JSN or Addison would push Gabe Davis to WR5

If I go with picks I’m hoping to land one of QJ, Addison or JSN at 8, maybe a RB at 10, and maybe Boutte 2.01, but of course there are no guarantees of who slides.

So 1-5 also offers some clarity, but less chance of nabbing a value. It’s also 1 fewer player to roster. Of course that extra player could be a bust. I know what DJ Moore is.

What qbs do you have?

Uh, Zach Wilson, Bailey Zappe, & Mike White?

Bummer. I think if it was me I’d begrudgingly(not a huge fan of these qbs) take the top two qbs bijon and either Gibbs/charbonnet with picks 1-4. Since you don’t have any qbs it makes trading for the five pick more appealing. But I think I’d keep 8,10 and 13 And take bpa since you have Arsb and Higgins. I don’t view Moore as an upgrade over those guys.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I don’t view Moore as an upgrade over those guys.

I don’t either. But I do view him as potentially better than any WR I’m gonna be able to get at 8, 10, or 13.

He would immediately slot in as my WR3, pushing Davis & WRX I take at 5 to my WR 4-5 spots.

That has value.

 

[Rookiefever]

I don’t view Moore as an upgrade over those guys.

I don’t either. But I do view him as potentially better than any WR I’m gonna be able to get at 8, 10, or 13.

He would immediately slot in as my WR3, pushing Davis & WRX I take at 5 to my WR 4-5 spots.

That has value.

Agreed. I’m just not sure how much more value I’ll have on the WR that goes at five compared to the one available at eight. 10 and 13 should be pretty darn good pick assuming 4 qbs go before pick 13.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

assuming 4 qbs go before pick 13.

I’m still not sure that’s a safe assumption.

 

[JohnnyU]

I don’t view Moore as an upgrade over those guys.

I don’t either. But I do view him as potentially better than any WR I’m gonna be able to get at 8, 10, or 13.

He would immediately slot in as my WR3, pushing Davis & WRX I take at 5 to my WR 4-5 spots.

That has value.

DJ Moore is overrated every year.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Diontae Johnson buy low or give up? He’ll be 27. First season with same qb/OC although both were not good last season. 0 TDs is almost impossibly low.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I don’t view Moore as an upgrade over those guys.

I don’t either. But I do view him as potentially better than any WR I’m gonna be able to get at 8, 10, or 13.

He would immediately slot in as my WR3, pushing Davis & WRX I take at 5 to my WR 4-5 spots.

That has value.

DJ Moore is overrated every year.

It would be nice to see him with a real QB.

Might not matter - deal’s been up for 2 days with no response.

 

[joey]

Hurts value in 1 QB league?
(Keep 13 ppr dynasty league (non-TE-mandatory). Start QB/RB/3WR/1flex/K/D. League started 2 seasons ago)

i have the 1.3 pick that I “earned” this year. Trey Lance is an anchor on my QB position.
I have core of JTaylor, Javonte, Dobbins, Akers. KHerbert. Lamb, Kirk, Pickens, Palmer, Pierce.

i don’t think I can let go of the 1.3 for a QB (even as good as Hurts) when I still need to find another stud WR to compete with the line up requirements.

thoughts?

 

[higgins]

Diontae Johnson buy low or give up? He’ll be 27. First season with same qb/OC although both were not good last season. 0 TDs is almost impossibly low.

Link — Diontae was the 7th most targeted WR last year. It was absolutely an anomaly that he scored 0 td’s. But, you correctly point out that the same OC is there. To me, a lot could be decided on whether Pitt improves the OL thru draft/FA in order to open up the passing offense more. PPR league? Either way, I wouldn’t give up when the guy is always open.

 

[higgins]

Hurts value in 1 QB league?
(Keep 13 ppr dynasty league (non-TE-mandatory). Start QB/RB/3WR/1flex/K/D. League started 2 seasons ago)

i have the 1.3 pick that I “earned” this year. Trey Lance is an anchor on my QB position.
I have core of JTaylor, Javonte, Dobbins, Akers. KHerbert. Lamb, Kirk, Pickens, Palmer, Pierce.

i don’t think I can let go of the 1.3 for a QB (even as good as Hurts) when I still need to find another stud WR to compete with the line up requirements.

thoughts?

Based upon your team, I wouldn’t have any problem going Hurts for the 1.3 as long as you’re getting some back additionally. 1.3 -for- Hurts and and his 2nd 2024? You could even use the 2024 2nd to climb in the 24 draft to get MH Jr, who would be much more likely to be the “stud WR” than this year’s group.

 

[joey]

Hurts value in 1 QB league?
(Keep 13 ppr dynasty league (non-TE-mandatory). Start QB/RB/3WR/1flex/K/D. League started 2 seasons ago)

i have the 1.3 pick that I “earned” this year. Trey Lance is an anchor on my QB position.
I have core of JTaylor, Javonte, Dobbins, Akers. KHerbert. Lamb, Kirk, Pickens, Palmer, Pierce.

i don’t think I can let go of the 1.3 for a QB (even as good as Hurts) when I still need to find another stud WR to compete with the line up requirements.

thoughts?

Based upon your team, I wouldn’t have any problem going Hurts for the 1.3 as long as you’re getting some back additionally. 1.3 -for- Hurts and and his 2nd 2024? You could even use the 2024 2nd to climb in the 24 draft to get MH Jr, who would be much more likely to be the “stud WR” than this year’s group.

He wants a 2023 1st PLUS Akers, so he ain’t putting anything extra on his side for sure. I MIGHT consider 1.3 for Hurts straight up if one of my separate trade offers goes through to swap one of my RBs (Akers or Dobbins) for a WR in the top 15-20 range. I have a couple of feelers out but this ain’t a high volume trading league. Thanks for the thoughts!

 

[IHEARTFF]

Diontae Johnson buy low or give up? He’ll be 27. First season with same qb/OC although both were not good last season. 0 TDs is almost impossibly low.

Link — Diontae was the 7th most targeted WR last year. It was absolutely an anomaly that he scored 0 td’s. But, you correctly point out that the same OC is there. To me, a lot could be decided on whether Pitt improves the OL thru draft/FA in order to open up the passing offense more. PPR league? Either way, I wouldn’t give up when the guy is always open.

Yeah I lean towards hold/buy low. Just kinda curious what value he is at ppr in terms of 23 pick. Thinking mid 2 buy?

 

[higgins]

Diontae Johnson buy low or give up? He’ll be 27. First season with same qb/OC although both were not good last season. 0 TDs is almost impossibly low.

Link — Diontae was the 7th most targeted WR last year. It was absolutely an anomaly that he scored 0 td’s. But, you correctly point out that the same OC is there. To me, a lot could be decided on whether Pitt improves the OL thru draft/FA in order to open up the passing offense more. PPR league? Either way, I wouldn’t give up when the guy is always open.

Yeah I lean towards hold/buy low. Just kinda curious what value he is at ppr in terms of 23 pick. Thinking mid 2 buy?

Giddy up

 

[menobrown]

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

What's your best guess of the players you'd pick 1-4?

depends. 1–2-3 likely Bijan, Stroud, Young, but of course NFL draft capital matters.

If not competing in 2023 is the major goal there is no way I'm not picking Richardson in a SF with one of my top 4 picks. He's fantasy can't miss and I'll say that with caveat of as long as he's on the field. Which may not be primarily until 2024 and he has higher concerns then the two you mentioned of staying on the field but forget all that. His upside blows them sideways.

If I had picks 1-4 I'd know with a high degree of certainty already if I'm making those picks I'm drafting Bijan, Gibbs, Richardson and my last decision is mulling over that second QB.

 

[JohnnyU]

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

What's your best guess of the players you'd pick 1-4?

depends. 1–2-3 likely Bijan, Stroud, Young, but of course NFL draft capital matters.

If not competing in 2023 is the major goal there is no way I'm not picking Richardson in a SF with one of my top 4 picks. He's fantasy can't miss and I'll say that with caveat of as long as he's on the field. Which may not be primarily until 2024 and he has higher concerns then the two you mentioned of staying on the field but forget all that. His upside blows them sideways.

If I had picks 1-4 I'd know with a high degree of certainty already if I'm making those picks I'm drafting Bijan, Gibbs, Richardson and my last decision is mulling over that second QB.

Is taking Gibbs over JSN easy to do? I’m not so sure about that.

 

[menobrown]

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

What's your best guess of the players you'd pick 1-4?

depends. 1–2-3 likely Bijan, Stroud, Young, but of course NFL draft capital matters.

If not competing in 2023 is the major goal there is no way I'm not picking Richardson in a SF with one of my top 4 picks. He's fantasy can't miss and I'll say that with caveat of as long as he's on the field. Which may not be primarily until 2024 and he has higher concerns then the two you mentioned of staying on the field but forget all that. His upside blows them sideways.

If I had picks 1-4 I'd know with a high degree of certainty already if I'm making those picks I'm drafting Bijan, Gibbs, Richardson and my last decision is mulling over that second QB.

Is taking Gibbs over JSN easy to do? I’m not so sure about that.

That's great but I meant what I said and have been saying it around here for months.

 

[JohnnyU]

Really boils down to what helps me to rebuild more, 1-5+DJM, or 1-4, + 8, 10, 13

What's your best guess of the players you'd pick 1-4?

depends. 1–2-3 likely Bijan, Stroud, Young, but of course NFL draft capital matters.

If not competing in 2023 is the major goal there is no way I'm not picking Richardson in a SF with one of my top 4 picks. He's fantasy can't miss and I'll say that with caveat of as long as he's on the field. Which may not be primarily until 2024 and he has higher concerns then the two you mentioned of staying on the field but forget all that. His upside blows them sideways.

If I had picks 1-4 I'd know with a high degree of certainty already if I'm making those picks I'm drafting Bijan, Gibbs, Richardson and my last decision is mulling over that second QB.

Is taking Gibbs over JSN easy to do? I’m not so sure about that.

That's great but I meant what I said and have been saying it around here for months.

Well alrighty then

 

[efactor]

Thoughts on the highest 2023 draft pick people would give for Tee Higgins straight up. #2 overall? Non SF.