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Same. Another 1st or comparable player.I would want more than that for Bijan/Nacua
Same. Another 1st or comparable player.I would want more than that for Bijan/Nacua
Same and same.Man I’ll be honest, I’m not sure I’d take that for Bijan alone. And I’m a bigger White fan than most.
Traded Kelce to a contender for Andrews and a mid to low 2nd.Travis Kelce.
If competing what would you pay to get him?
If out of it what would you accept to move him?
What are Achane, Spears, and Warren’s value for 2024?
Last week I traded Kelce and Kyler to the Burrow playoff team owner for Mark Andrews + 1st + 2nd. He would not part with Burrow so we settled on the late picks instead.Travis Kelce.
If competing what would you pay to get him?
If out of it what would you accept to move him?
Warren is worth a late 2nd, according to the jagoff who sent me that offer before the trade deadline.What are Achane, Spears, and Warren’s value for 2024?
I like that deal for you.Traded Kelce to a contender for Andrews and a mid to low 2nd.Travis Kelce.
If competing what would you pay to get him?
If out of it what would you accept to move him?
No one says you must counter good offers either. Not if you weren’t shopping player X anyway.Warren is worth a late 2nd, according to the jagoff who sent me that offer before the trade deadline.What are Achane, Spears, and Warren’s value for 2024?
I think I broke my keyboard rejecting it with no counter.
Wow,great deal for youLast week I traded Kelce and Kyler to the Burrow playoff team owner for Mark Andrews + 1st + 2nd. He would not part with Burrow so we settled on the late picks instead.Travis Kelce.
If competing what would you pay to get him?
If out of it what would you accept to move him?
IMO, more to their owners than what most people are willing to pay. All 3 are hot players people want to acquire but are not without their fair share of sizeable risk that buyers want to discount.What are Achane, Spears, and Warren’s value for 2024?
12 team IDP Dynasty with contracts. 40 man roster plus a 12 man taxiTravis Kelce.
If competing what would you pay to get him?
If out of it what would you accept to move him?
Yeah, they got hit with the double whammy of losing both the same weekend. If it results in a long playoff run I think they'll be happy too. They have Pitts for the long-run to replace Kelce but didn't want to rely on him right now.Wow,great deal for youLast week I traded Kelce and Kyler to the Burrow playoff team owner for Mark Andrews + 1st + 2nd. He would not part with Burrow so we settled on the late picks instead.Travis Kelce.
If competing what would you pay to get him?
If out of it what would you accept to move him?
Yeah, I had no interest in moving Warren, but cmon - at least give me something that's hard to reject.No one says you must counter good offers either. Not if you weren’t shopping player X anyway.Warren is worth a late 2nd, according to the jagoff who sent me that offer before the trade deadline.What are Achane, Spears, and Warren’s value for 2024?
I think I broke my keyboard rejecting it with no counter.
Interesting.What are Achane, Spears, and Warren’s value for 2024?
Achane probably a top 3 pick. Warren probably a late 1 Spears probably a high 2 or late 1.
Interesting.What are Achane, Spears, and Warren’s value for 2024?
Achane probably a top 3 pick. Warren probably a late 1 Spears probably a high 2 or late 1.
I got Warren valued the least by a decent bit. He does look outstanding, not impossible to have an Ekeler type late surge but I just don't think they are kicking Najee to the curb and he'll be hindering Warren until at least the 2025 season, when Warren turns 27. So for me that's more in the 2 range.
Achane as you indicated is worth the most and perhaps worth what you are suggesting. He's actually one of the more difficult players for me to value due to smaller sample size, massive highs, but some injuries cropping up and I'm thinking they'll never want to over use him. He's one of those players if I owned him you'd need to come correct to pry him from him, giving the kind of value you suggest, but on the other hand if I don't own him with how strong some of the top end talent in this draft I'm not trying to pay that unless I got a real RB need. I may be wrong and he just may be worth it.
Spears is someone I think should be valued as a late 1 but I don't actually like to pay the market rate(unless it's for immediate help which he is not) for a RB until after the dust settles on RB movement in FA and the draft. So he's someone people would need to pay a one to get from me, but he's not someone I'd be paying a 1 to get right now myself.
Assuming Kelce plays well next year, probably worth it12 team IDP Dynasty with contracts. 40 man roster plus a 12 man taxiTravis Kelce.
If competing what would you pay to get him?
If out of it what would you accept to move him?
I was the one competing with Schultz and Fant as my TEs.
To get Kelce with 2 years left (so I get him the rest of this year plus next season before he hits RFA), I gave up a 2024 1st (will likely be in the 8-10 range could be 11 or 12, a 2025 3rd, Cedric Tillman (taxi) and $4 in FA dollars (we get 50 per year but it can accumulate and is used for waivers and RFA)
I think I overpaid a bit in a vacuum, but I believe he filled by far my biggest gap and likely shifted me to being the top contender (at least top 2) if my guys can stay healthy, so I was willing to pay a little more than I thought he was actually worth to put myself into championship contender territory.
On a rebuilder I also flipped Murray for Burrow and even got him to throw in a late pick.Last week I traded Kelce and Kyler to the Burrow playoff team owner for Mark Andrews + 1st + 2nd. He would not part with Burrow so we settled on the late picks instead.Travis Kelce.
If competing what would you pay to get him?
If out of it what would you accept to move him?
Achane a top 3 pick in 2024 over Tyreek, JJ, and CMC?What are Achane, Spears, and Warren’s value for 2024?
Achane probably a top 3 pick. Warren probably a late 1 Spears probably a high 2 or late 1.
Traded Derrick Henry + McBride + 2024 3rd for Kelce.Travis Kelce.
If competing what would you pay to get him?
If out of it what would you accept to move him?
Top 3 rookie pick. I'd take Harrison over him every day, but there may not be a RB in 24 better regarded than Achane.Achane a top 3 pick in 2024 over Tyreek, JJ, and CMC?What are Achane, Spears, and Warren’s value for 2024?
Achane probably a top 3 pick. Warren probably a late 1 Spears probably a high 2 or late 1.
What about in the ‘24 regular draft .. End of the 2nd round for Achane assuming he’s the starter?Top 3 rookie pick. I'd take Harrison over him every day, but there may not be a RB in 24 better regarded than Achane.Achane a top 3 pick in 2024 over Tyreek, JJ, and CMC?What are Achane, Spears, and Warren’s value for 2024?
Achane probably a top 3 pick. Warren probably a late 1 Spears probably a high 2 or late 1.
As a Fins fan I'm big on Achane but he might end up being a forever committee back. It is probably the best for him to keep him fresh throughout the year. He's a type of guy that can excel in a committee with around 12-13 touches a game. I'm not sure he can be a 20+ consistent touch guy without breaking down - but who knows what MIA wants to do long term.What about in the ‘24 regular draft .. End of the 2nd round for Achane assuming he’s the starter?Top 3 rookie pick. I'd take Harrison over him every day, but there may not be a RB in 24 better regarded than Achane.Achane a top 3 pick in 2024 over Tyreek, JJ, and CMC?What are Achane, Spears, and Warren’s value for 2024?
Achane probably a top 3 pick. Warren probably a late 1 Spears probably a high 2 or late 1.
Okay. Kyren Williams. Where are we at with this guy? Turned in another strong performance against a tough Browns defense.
The owner in my main dynasty is in a full rebuild and is trying to empty as many points as possible off his roster to try and work his way to the 1.02 and has offered me Kyren. I’m a strong contender. Are we confident he’s the guy going forward into next year? Mcvay seems to love him. I must admit I was skeptical but he just keeps performing.
Would you give up a mid 1st at this point?
He’s definitely worth a mid first imo. But… you always have to hedge your bets with mcvay rbs. I would roster at least two of the rbs in dynasty.Okay. Kyren Williams. Where are we at with this guy? Turned in another strong performance against a tough Browns defense.
The owner in my main dynasty is in a full rebuild and is trying to empty as many points as possible off his roster to try and work his way to the 1.02 and has offered me Kyren. I’m a strong contender. Are we confident he’s the guy going forward into next year? Mcvay seems to love him. I must admit I was skeptical but he just keeps performing.
Would you give up a mid 1st at this point?
He’s definitely worth a mid first imo. But… you always have to hedge your bets with mcvay rbs. I would roster at least two of the rbs in dynasty.Okay. Kyren Williams. Where are we at with this guy? Turned in another strong performance against a tough Browns defense.
The owner in my main dynasty is in a full rebuild and is trying to empty as many points as possible off his roster to try and work his way to the 1.02 and has offered me Kyren. I’m a strong contender. Are we confident he’s the guy going forward into next year? Mcvay seems to love him. I must admit I was skeptical but he just keeps performing.
Would you give up a mid 1st at this point?
Eta so imo, kyren would cost a couple roster spots as well as what it would take to acquire
But many of those changes were due to injury and ineffectiveness. I don't think they have had an effective back since Gurley and once he lost it he was moved. I don't see Kyren being moved on from in the near future unless he falters. So if you think he will falter then I get moving him. But if you think he is as good as he has looked this year I just don't see where he is jettisoned with someone new taking over. I don't think McVay would do that without cause (all the others have had cause be it injury or ineffectiveness).I understand that thought, but the LAR RB room has had so much turnover in the past few years, most of us cannot put any faith in the "current flavor of the month RB" being on the roster next season. I recently moved Kyren for late 2024 1st (likely 1.08-1.10 range in 12 team 1QB).
Aside from the likes of Todd Gurley's 5-6 years as lead RB, there are no other RBs in the last 10 years of substance from LAR.
Just for fun... "Name the Rams RB for the last 10 years"
agreed. Addison PLUS a 1st is a fair offer for both sides imo.I suspect he'll want more than Addison. I'd be expecting a decent pick in addition. Mid 1st roughly.
Probably increases your chances of winning the whole thing by a decent click I'd say. Worth it.
I'm not necessarily saying it's too much to give, but if you have Tyreek and can't compete this year, then Addison and a 1st would be a tremendous getagreed. Addison PLUS a 1st is a fair offer for both sides imo.I suspect he'll want more than Addison. I'd be expecting a decent pick in addition. Mid 1st roughly.
Probably increases your chances of winning the whole thing by a decent click I'd say. Worth it.
I'm in a 16 team IDP dynasty where players have contracts before heading into RFA - I was a middle of the pack team, the worst place to be in fantasy, and had Tyreek with 2 years left - so the remainder of this season and next season. When it was apparent I couldn't add enough immediate help to push me into the playoffs/title contention, I pivoted to rebuild.How is Tyreek Hill valued right now ? I’m in my dynasty SF playoffs and feel like I need to strike while the iron is hot with Allen and Hurts ranked 1 and 2 on the season.
Tyreek owner is not making it and has put him on the trade block. I’m thinking of offering Addison as he’s said he wants picks or to get younger. Does that seem fair ? There’s an 8 year age disparity
Would make my WRs - Hill/Deebo/Pittman/Olave/Gabe/Reed/Jamo and a few others.
I guess I’m saying that, even if I can’t compete this year and roster Tyreek, I’m not selling him for less since I think I’ll be able to get that kind of return this off-season or even next year. Dudes an absolute stud and you don’t give him up for a young WR2 behind Jefferson, no matter how much you might like Addison. 2 centsI'm not necessarily saying it's too much to give, but if you have Tyreek and can't compete this year, then Addison and a 1st would be a tremendous getagreed. Addison PLUS a 1st is a fair offer for both sides imo.I suspect he'll want more than Addison. I'd be expecting a decent pick in addition. Mid 1st roughly.
Probably increases your chances of winning the whole thing by a decent click I'd say. Worth it.
Father time.I guess I’m saying that, even if I can’t compete this year and roster Tyreek, I’m not selling him for less since I think I’ll be able to get that kind of return this off-season or even next year. Dudes an absolute stud and you don’t give him up for a young WR2 behind Jefferson, no matter how much you might like Addison. 2 centsI'm not necessarily saying it's too much to give, but if you have Tyreek and can't compete this year, then Addison and a 1st would be a tremendous getagreed. Addison PLUS a 1st is a fair offer for both sides imo.I suspect he'll want more than Addison. I'd be expecting a decent pick in addition. Mid 1st roughly.
Probably increases your chances of winning the whole thing by a decent click I'd say. Worth it.
Father time.I guess I’m saying that, even if I can’t compete this year and roster Tyreek, I’m not selling him for less since I think I’ll be able to get that kind of return this off-season or even next year. Dudes an absolute stud and you don’t give him up for a young WR2 behind Jefferson, no matter how much you might like Addison. 2 centsI'm not necessarily saying it's too much to give, but if you have Tyreek and can't compete this year, then Addison and a 1st would be a tremendous getagreed. Addison PLUS a 1st is a fair offer for both sides imo.I suspect he'll want more than Addison. I'd be expecting a decent pick in addition. Mid 1st roughly.
Probably increases your chances of winning the whole thing by a decent click I'd say. Worth it.
He's 30 next year. As great as lots of these guys look at 29, at 31 they aren't the same guy 95% of the time
I believe he said he wants to play out this contract which would be 3 more seasons. There is an out built in there after 2 but I doubt when he said he’s thinking about being released early. Also since he said that he's had the best 2 seasons of his career so who knows how he will feel in 2-3 years.Plus isn't tyreek retiring in 2 years?
Of course.Focus on age when it comes to trades is usually overrated imo. It’s always going to be team dependent. If my team is in the hunt this year and will be a contender next year, you couldn’t pry Hill out of my hands.
All depends on the league and settings. Is this TEP and if so how much. How are TEs valued? Personally I would want more and I would think there is no rush to move him. I understand you might be wanting to get a couple extra picks but a mid second is a crap shoot at best. yes there were some good 2nd round fantasy picks in 2023 but not all hit. Right now you have a starting TE in Kmet who is still very young at 24 years old and ranked around TE10 in dynasty. I actually think his value right now is a bit low.Value of Kmet?
I have Kelce and Hockenson. I am worried about Kelce retiring but can part with Kmet and pick up a flyer TE to back up Hock next year.
Is a mid 2nd a good enough offer to accept?
Thanks.. it is not a TE Premium league .. standard scoring. I am trying for 2 2nds. Worst case a 2nd and Demario Douglas.All depends on the league and settings. Is this TEP and if so how much. How are TEs valued? Personally I would want more and I would think there is no rush to move him. I understand you might be wanting to get a couple extra picks but a mid second is a crap shoot at best. yes there were some good 2nd round fantasy picks in 2023 but not all hit. Right now you have a starting TE in Kmet who is still very young at 24 years old and ranked around TE10 in dynasty. I actually think his value right now is a bit low.Value of Kmet?
I have Kelce and Hockenson. I am worried about Kelce retiring but can part with Kmet and pick up a flyer TE to back up Hock next year.
Is a mid 2nd a good enough offer to accept?
At best you would be hoping that 2nd round pick turns into someone like Kmet. I'd need more than just a 2nd. Probably 2 seconds, or a second and a young prospect I feel good about and is getting starting playtime.
If you take a mid-second pick what do you realistically expect to draft there?
Not bad getting Demario as well if it isn't TEP. Again every league is different, even if it isn't TEP but I always think about this when trading a player for a single second or a first:Thanks.. it is not a TE Premium league .. standard scoring. I am trying for 2 2nds. Worst case a 2nd and Demario Douglas.All depends on the league and settings. Is this TEP and if so how much. How are TEs valued? Personally I would want more and I would think there is no rush to move him. I understand you might be wanting to get a couple extra picks but a mid second is a crap shoot at best. yes there were some good 2nd round fantasy picks in 2023 but not all hit. Right now you have a starting TE in Kmet who is still very young at 24 years old and ranked around TE10 in dynasty. I actually think his value right now is a bit low.Value of Kmet?
I have Kelce and Hockenson. I am worried about Kelce retiring but can part with Kmet and pick up a flyer TE to back up Hock next year.
Is a mid 2nd a good enough offer to accept?
At best you would be hoping that 2nd round pick turns into someone like Kmet. I'd need more than just a 2nd. Probably 2 seconds, or a second and a young prospect I feel good about and is getting starting playtime.
If you take a mid-second pick what do you realistically expect to draft there?
Good advice.Not bad getting Demario as well if it isn't TEP. Again every league is different, even if it isn't TEP but I always think about this when trading a player for a single second or a first:Thanks.. it is not a TE Premium league .. standard scoring. I am trying for 2 2nds. Worst case a 2nd and Demario Douglas.All depends on the league and settings. Is this TEP and if so how much. How are TEs valued? Personally I would want more and I would think there is no rush to move him. I understand you might be wanting to get a couple extra picks but a mid second is a crap shoot at best. yes there were some good 2nd round fantasy picks in 2023 but not all hit. Right now you have a starting TE in Kmet who is still very young at 24 years old and ranked around TE10 in dynasty. I actually think his value right now is a bit low.Value of Kmet?
I have Kelce and Hockenson. I am worried about Kelce retiring but can part with Kmet and pick up a flyer TE to back up Hock next year.
Is a mid 2nd a good enough offer to accept?
At best you would be hoping that 2nd round pick turns into someone like Kmet. I'd need more than just a 2nd. Probably 2 seconds, or a second and a young prospect I feel good about and is getting starting playtime.
If you take a mid-second pick what do you realistically expect to draft there?
1) Is the best case scenario for that pick to get a similar player back? Realistically, is the player better than most players drafted at that pick?
2) Sometimes it makes sense to get a player off your roster if you are trying to make room and will grab someone you like off waivers. But this is usually for 3rd or 4th round type values.
3) For most TEs I usually like to toss them in as fillers to finish of a big trade. Maybe Kmet can push a big trade over the edge if you need a boost.
4) I also look at when is the best time to trade a player. If it is an older player, during the season makes the most sense. I might sell for a small discount if I know that value will drop in the offseason. For a young player like Kmet, it is unlikely his value will drop much over time. TE 10 or TE14 isn't a big difference if it drops a bit. But since he's young and has shown promise his value could go up next season. In this case I'm not in a big rush to move him, even if I have 2 other good TEs. Waiting until someone else is hurting at TE and Kmet is having a good year can get you max value. At some point next year he will have a big game or two which could net you max value.
Anyways just some things to ponder.
Just moved Kmet and my 1st (hopefully 1.12) for McBride. I overpayed, but felt I needed an upgrade.Good advice.Not bad getting Demario as well if it isn't TEP. Again every league is different, even if it isn't TEP but I always think about this when trading a player for a single second or a first:Thanks.. it is not a TE Premium league .. standard scoring. I am trying for 2 2nds. Worst case a 2nd and Demario Douglas.All depends on the league and settings. Is this TEP and if so how much. How are TEs valued? Personally I would want more and I would think there is no rush to move him. I understand you might be wanting to get a couple extra picks but a mid second is a crap shoot at best. yes there were some good 2nd round fantasy picks in 2023 but not all hit. Right now you have a starting TE in Kmet who is still very young at 24 years old and ranked around TE10 in dynasty. I actually think his value right now is a bit low.Value of Kmet?
I have Kelce and Hockenson. I am worried about Kelce retiring but can part with Kmet and pick up a flyer TE to back up Hock next year.
Is a mid 2nd a good enough offer to accept?
At best you would be hoping that 2nd round pick turns into someone like Kmet. I'd need more than just a 2nd. Probably 2 seconds, or a second and a young prospect I feel good about and is getting starting playtime.
If you take a mid-second pick what do you realistically expect to draft there?
1) Is the best case scenario for that pick to get a similar player back? Realistically, is the player better than most players drafted at that pick?
2) Sometimes it makes sense to get a player off your roster if you are trying to make room and will grab someone you like off waivers. But this is usually for 3rd or 4th round type values.
3) For most TEs I usually like to toss them in as fillers to finish of a big trade. Maybe Kmet can push a big trade over the edge if you need a boost.
4) I also look at when is the best time to trade a player. If it is an older player, during the season makes the most sense. I might sell for a small discount if I know that value will drop in the offseason. For a young player like Kmet, it is unlikely his value will drop much over time. TE 10 or TE14 isn't a big difference if it drops a bit. But since he's young and has shown promise his value could go up next season. In this case I'm not in a big rush to move him, even if I have 2 other good TEs. Waiting until someone else is hurting at TE and Kmet is having a good year can get you max value. At some point next year he will have a big game or two which could net you max value.
Anyways just some things to ponder.
Was able to get 2 2nds for Kmet (2.05 and 2.13). Come draft time, people love the picks so can add those easier to get a better player than Kmet.
This is a deceiving statement. In general, the player is typically better than most players at that pick with regards to your starting lineup. Rookies generally don't have immediate value to your starting lineup. Of course, you can always hit on a rookie pick. it's in the possible outcomes but it generally isn't likely in the near term. The actual player picked with a draft typically isn't the value of the pick.1) Is the best case scenario for that pick to get a similar player back? Realistically, is the player better than most players drafted at that pick?
This is a deceiving statement. In general, the player is typically better than most players at that pick with regards to your starting lineup. Rookies generally don't have immediate value to your starting lineup. Of course, you can always hit on a rookie pick. it's in the possible outcomes but it generally isn't likely in the near term. The actual player picked with a draft typically isn't the value of the pick.1) Is the best case scenario for that pick to get a similar player back? Realistically, is the player better than most players drafted at that pick?
Pick value always goes up as you get closer to the draft while the player you trade away doesn't have that built in value rise. These fringe players are always better to turn into picks as you are moving towards the end of a season and getting into draft season. This is where you gain value in trading a player for a pick.