Dynasty Value Discussion Thread (4 Viewers)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I like Rhamondre well enough, but if I were an owner and had some inquiring about him, I’d be doing my best to make a deal work. I think there’s a good chance NE adds a decent RB in the draft, personally. And this class is loaded with them.

Honestly, unless we are talking about like Bijan, Gibbs, or Saquon, I’d be open to moving pretty much any RB right now for a decent return. The landscape is about to be shaken way up.

Agreed.

Arbitrarily (ie no analysis of cap situations etc) these are the teams I think are unlikely to draft RB:
Atl
TB
Ind
Det
Phi
Bal
NYJ
Buf
Sea
LAR

So 22 teams that IMHO are a 'threat' to draft an RB - and with a class many are proclaiming to be 15-20 deep, that's a LOT of guys whose value might be taking a significant incoming hit post draft.

And even some those teams will most likely take advantage of the deep class at some point in the draft. Going to be fascinating to see where the pieces fall.

The depth of running back in the draft is actually a good point. It may well be that it works against all of the running backs, and they all fall further than they should do to the sheer volume. Supply and demand and all that. At least all that maybe the top two or three, who could also fall further than we expect.

 

[menobrown]

I like Rhamondre well enough, but if I were an owner and had some inquiring about him, I’d be doing my best to make a deal work. I think there’s a good chance NE adds a decent RB in the draft, personally. And this class is loaded with them.

Honestly, unless we are talking about like Bijan, Gibbs, or Saquon, I’d be open to moving pretty much any RB right now for a decent return. The landscape is about to be shaken way up.

I always love when someone contacts me about a player that I’m interested in moving.

That said, I don’t think New England is drafting a premier running back. They have way too many needs and they already have a pretty good back.

I moved him last year and ended up getting a haul because the team I traded him too had a god awful season due to injuries. He was expected to easily be a playoff team in a 16 teamer and the pick ended up being #3 overall.

Now trying to trade for him. Still like him assuming the Pats don't grab a RB by day 2, which I agree with you that they won't due to other needs.

NE currently has two third round picks at 69 and 77 and I can't say it would be shocking if they used one on a RB.

Either way this class is so loaded that good RB's are going to get pushed down and even a 5th round guy is going to be a threat. I'm of the opinion over 30 RB's will get drafted and about 85-90% of the NFL teams will draft at least one RB. What JoeJoe is saying is spot on about being leery of investing in nothing but the premier locked in RB's because the landscape changes. But....

A lot of people are operating under this premise and might be able to find value. It's all a bit risky now but if you build it into the price it can be a worthwhile shot and a guy like Rhamondre, if we put the fumbles aside for a moment, can work very well in a RBBC because he's skilled in two areas that get you the most points, receiving and goal line.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I like Rhamondre well enough, but if I were an owner and had some inquiring about him, I’d be doing my best to make a deal work. I think there’s a good chance NE adds a decent RB in the draft, personally. And this class is loaded with them.

Honestly, unless we are talking about like Bijan, Gibbs, or Saquon, I’d be open to moving pretty much any RB right now for a decent return. The landscape is about to be shaken way up.

Agreed.

Arbitrarily (ie no analysis of cap situations etc) these are the teams I think are unlikely to draft RB:
Atl
TB
Ind
Det
Phi
Bal
NYJ
Buf
Sea
LAR

So 22 teams that IMHO are a 'threat' to draft an RB - and with a class many are proclaiming to be 15-20 deep, that's a LOT of guys whose value might be taking a significant incoming hit post draft.

And even some those teams will most likely take advantage of the deep class at some point in the draft. Going to be fascinating to see where the pieces fall.

The depth of running back in the draft is actually a good point. It may well be that it works against all of the running backs, and they all fall further than they should do to the sheer volume. Supply and demand and all that. At least all that maybe the top two or three, who could also fall further than we expect.

I think a few teams who do not appear to have a need at the position will look to add depth (or plan ahead with an aging starter or contract looming). There will probably be some good patient plays after the draft is completed for dynasty players.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

A lot of people are operating under this premise and might be able to find value. It's all a bit risky now but if you build it into the price it can be a worthwhile shot and a guy like Rhamondre, if we put the fumbles aside for a moment, can work very well in a RBBC because he's skilled in two areas that get you the most points, receiving and goal line.

Definitely. I’ve seen him mention in at least three buy low recommendations by fantasy riders, including one of the emails from FBG

And as I sort of mentioned before, if the Patriots don’t draft a running back, a buy low position on RS turns into a jackpot in a hurry.

 

[menobrown]

A lot of people are operating under this premise and might be able to find value. It's all a bit risky now but if you build it into the price it can be a worthwhile shot and a guy like Rhamondre, if we put the fumbles aside for a moment, can work very well in a RBBC because he's skilled in two areas that get you the most points, receiving and goal line.

Definitely. I’ve seen him mention in at least three by low recommendations by fantasy riders, including one of the emails from FBG

And as I sort of mentioned before, if the Patriots don’t draft a running back, a buy low position on RS turns into a jackpot in a hurry.

I've seen some of that as well as some people who reference him being a trade candidate like potentially leaving NE and this horrendous OL and these toothless weapons is supposed to scare me off?

I know this is a dynasty thread but my dynasty drafts don't take place until May and I'm doing redrafts right now so I tend to be more focused on that right now, which of course does include analyzing and drafting a lot of rookies. I've taken a shot on Rhamondre in two of them so far, which already is tied for how much I drafted him all of last year. Took him at RB34 and RB36 and I'd guess his dynasty price is even lower. That price is building in signficant competition already, he's going in the same range as pure handcuffs like Charbonnet.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

A really good running back makes Drake Mayes job a hell of a lot easier. I can definitely see them drafting somebody if they think it'll kees opposition D's more honest and take the load of their young QB.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

A really good running back makes Drake Mayes job a hell of a lot easier. I can definitely see them drafting somebody if they think it'll kees opposition D's more honest and take the load of their young QB.

But they already have a really good running back who already knows the system. Why waste draft capital on that when they have so many needs?

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

They have an OK running back. Let's not get crazy now.

There is quite clearly room to improve the position.

 

[BespokeJort]

Vibe check: considering trying to acquire Jamar Chase in another league.

16 team SF, IDP, PPR, TEP
Would an offer of AJB+R.Stevenson+2027 1st for J.Chase+2025 mid 2nd be a decent opening salvo?

The trade charts and calcs I’ve checked all seem to have it in the ballpark. As a Chase owner myself, I would definitely consider it, but I’m wondering what all y’all think.

Have Chase. Would never do. AJB is getting up there and Saquon stirs the drink. Rhamondre doesn’t have the draft capital or the counting stats.

You really need three 2025 1st rounders or equivalent. It is sort of like when I asked if a first and second would be enough for Barkley and was met with a “no.”

Probably right. They have BTJ as well… Maybe I should float an offer of Stevenson+Warren plus the first for BTJ and see if he nibbles. I have pretty ridiculous depth at running back.

He won’t.

Edit: that maybe comes off more flippant than I intended it to but while I agree rhamondre is a decent buy low rn the center of the venn diagram between “buy low candidates” and “makes a dent towards someone like a BTJ who owners reasonably believe has a very good shot to be in the elite wr1 tier” is empty

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Vibe check: considering trying to acquire Jamar Chase in another league.

16 team SF, IDP, PPR, TEP
Would an offer of AJB+R.Stevenson+2027 1st for J.Chase+2025 mid 2nd be a decent opening salvo?

The trade charts and calcs I’ve checked all seem to have it in the ballpark. As a Chase owner myself, I would definitely consider it, but I’m wondering what all y’all think.

Have Chase. Would never do. AJB is getting up there and Saquon stirs the drink. Rhamondre doesn’t have the draft capital or the counting stats.

You really need three 2025 1st rounders or equivalent. It is sort of like when I asked if a first and second would be enough for Barkley and was met with a “no.”

Probably right. They have BTJ as well… Maybe I should float an offer of Stevenson+Warren plus the first for BTJ and see if he nibbles. I have pretty ridiculous depth at running back.

He won’t.

Edit: that maybe comes off more flippant than I intended it to but while I agree rhamondre is a decent buy low rn the center of the venn diagram between “buy low candidates” and “makes a dent towards someone like a BTJ who owners reasonably believe has a very good shot to be in the elite wr1 tier” is empty

Oh, I know. But hey… A boy can dream.

I might see if he’s interested in Chase Brown. Between that and a first I might be able to get close to one of those guys. I have some IDP assets that he’d probably want too

I was the one seed and have a very deep roster. Didn’t really have much need to trade this year, but my biggest challenge was figuring out which player to play every week consolidating assets is always a fun way to build a champion.

 

[kface]

Vibe check: considering trying to acquire Jamar Chase in another league.

16 team SF, IDP, PPR, TEP
Would an offer of AJB+R.Stevenson+2027 1st for J.Chase+2025 mid 2nd be a decent opening salvo?

The trade charts and calcs I’ve checked all seem to have it in the ballpark. As a Chase owner myself, I would definitely consider it, but I’m wondering what all y’all think.

Have Chase. Would never do. AJB is getting up there and Saquon stirs the drink. Rhamondre doesn’t have the draft capital or the counting stats.

You really need three 2025 1st rounders or equivalent. It is sort of like when I asked if a first and second would be enough for Barkley and was met with a “no.”

Probably right. They have BTJ as well… Maybe I should float an offer of Stevenson+Warren plus the first for BTJ and see if he nibbles. I have pretty ridiculous depth at running back.

He won’t.

Edit: that maybe comes off more flippant than I intended it to but while I agree rhamondre is a decent buy low rn the center of the venn diagram between “buy low candidates” and “makes a dent towards someone like a BTJ who owners reasonably believe has a very good shot to be in the elite wr1 tier” is empty

Oh, I know. But hey… A boy can drink.

I might see if he’s interested in Chase Brown. Between that and a first I might be able to get close to one of those guys. I have some IDP assets that he’d probably want too

I was the one seed and have a very deep roster. Didn’t really have much need to trade this year, but my biggest challenge was figuring out which player to play every week consolidating assets is always a fun way to build a champion.

As a stevenson owner I can attest to the fact that he has almost zero value in my dynasty league. I'm getting better offers for Mason

 

[Raging weasel]

Bought an orphan FFPC team last night and already received a trade offer. Decent roster considering it was an orphan but really weak at TE with only Juwan Johnson . Was offered I Likely for my 2026 2nd which seems a little rich. The team that has him will be cutting him so could get him in this years draft but not sure where he would go so still thinking of pulling the trigger.
What do you guys think?

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

Offer him a 3rd.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Bought an orphan FFPC team last night and already received a trade offer. Decent roster considering it was an orphan but really weak at TE with only Juwan Johnson . Was offered I Likely for my 2026 2nd which seems a little rich. The team that has him will be cutting him so could get him in this years draft but not sure where he would go so still thinking of pulling the trigger.
What do you guys think?

Could be a steal if Andrews is moved, could be a waste if he is not.

 

[JohnnyU]

Offer him a 3rd.

I wouldn’t trade him for a 3rd. That would be dumb.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

I wouldn’t trade him for a 3rd. That would be dumb.

He's a cut candidate. You're taking a 3rd if you can't get anything better.

 

[JohnnyU]

I wouldn’t trade him for a 3rd. That would be dumb.

He's a cut candidate. You're taking a 3rd if you can't get anything better.

Most leagues aren’t that shallow, but I keep forgetting FFPC is.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

It was quite clear in the initial post.

 

[JohnnyU]

It was quite clear in the initial post.

I know. So shoot me

 

[Raging weasel]

I wouldn’t trade him for a 3rd. That would be dumb.

He's a cut candidate. You're taking a 3rd if you can't get anything better.

Most leagues aren’t that shallow, but I keep forgetting FFPC is.

Likely is his third TE behind Bowers and McBride.
With only Johnson on my roster I'm going to have to draft or trade for a TE or two at some point.

 

[Raging weasel]

Offer him a 3rd.

I wouldn’t trade him for a 3rd. That would be dumb.

Are you saying you wouldn't accept a 3rd for him or you wouldn't offer a 3rd for him?

 

[joey]

Offer him a 3rd.

I wouldn’t trade him for a 3rd. That would be dumb.

Are you saying you wouldn't accept a 3rd for him or you wouldn't offer a 3rd for him?

He’s saying he wouldn’t accept a 3rd for him.

 

[efactor]

It was quite clear in the initial post.

I know. So shoot me

That seems extreme but if you insist

 

[JoeJoe88]

If you were in a 10 team start 2QB, would this be in the ballpark to acquire Josh Allen?

Brock Purdy
Michael Penix
2027 1st

 

[Raging weasel]

If you were in a 10 team start 2QB, would this be in the ballpark to acquire Josh Allen?

Brock Purdy
Michael Penix
2027 1st

I doubt it. I don't play in any 2QB leagues but I wouldn't take that for Allen in a 1QB league

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

If you were in a 10 team start 2QB, would this be in the ballpark to acquire Josh Allen?

Brock Purdy
Michael Penix
2027 1st

I think you're short another 1st on the Purdy side. If I'm rebuilding, I'd strongly consider this deal if another 25 or 26 1st was included in the package.

 

[Blick]

If you were in a 10 team start 2QB, would this be in the ballpark to acquire Josh Allen?

Brock Purdy
Michael Penix
2027 1st

I think you're short another 1st on the Purdy side. If I'm rebuilding, I'd strongly consider this deal if another 25 or 26 1st was included in the package.

I'm not sure. This is a 10-teamer making Allen even more valuable. I see Penix as an unknown at best. A blank at worst. Purdy is ok. The 27 first is way out.

I'd want to replace Penix with a solid, top 5-7'ish QB to consider this.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If you were in a 10 team start 2QB, would this be in the ballpark to acquire Josh Allen?

Brock Purdy
Michael Penix
2027 1st

I think that’s ballpark, yes. But I’m not sure why one would do that. I like Allen just fine, but Purdy/Penix is a pretty solid 1-2 punch at QB. Both young & productive.

I’d hold, personally.

 

[menobrown]

Bought an orphan FFPC team last night and already received a trade offer. Decent roster considering it was an orphan but really weak at TE with only Juwan Johnson . Was offered I Likely for my 2026 2nd which seems a little rich. The team that has him will be cutting him so could get him in this years draft but not sure where he would go so still thinking of pulling the trigger.
What do you guys think?

It's a steal to get Likely for a future second. I put his value higher then a current high second. He's young, good, and this upcoming year or next he'll the #1TE in Baltimore.

 

[titusbramble]

If you were in a 10 team start 2QB, would this be in the ballpark to acquire Josh Allen?

Brock Purdy
Michael Penix
2027 1st

I probably wouldn't, but it is not ridiculous as a starting point for negotiations

 

[JohnnyU]

Offer him a 3rd.

I wouldn’t trade him for a 3rd. That would be dumb.

Are you saying you wouldn't accept a 3rd for him or you wouldn't offer a 3rd for him?

In my leagues, which aren’t shallow, I wouldn’t accept a 3rd for Likely. I wouldn’t think twice about it.

 

[JohnnyU]

Offer him a 3rd.

I wouldn’t trade him for a 3rd. That would be dumb.

Are you saying you wouldn't accept a 3rd for him or you wouldn't offer a 3rd for him?

He’s saying he wouldn’t accept a 3rd for him.

Yeah, I thought it was pretty clear, but thanks

 

[menobrown]

Two part question, they go together.

1. Do you all think Johnathan Brooks is worth 2.6 in standard FFPC? I can get one free roster spot open now without to much of a hassle, but he'll take up an IR spot probably all year(we have 3) and of course no guarantee he'll ever be alright.

2. I'm only asking because I offered someone Garrett Wilson for MHJ straight up and they countered wanting to give me Brooks and Allgeir for 2.6 along with the Wilson for MHJ part. I have no room for Allgeier, Bijan owner has not made a trade with me in 9 years so would probably end up just cutting him. So my question is even if you don't think Brooks is worth 2.6 and you know you likely were going to cut Allgeier what is the value of MHJ over Wilson enough for you to turn Brooks into 2.6?

I think no on both of those myself, but would be curious to hear differing opinions.

 

[sheerterror]

Two part question, they go together.

1. Do you all think Johnathan Brooks is worth 2.6 in standard FFPC? I can get one free roster spot open now without to much of a hassle, but he'll take up an IR spot probably all year(we have 3) and of course no guarantee he'll ever be alright.

2. I'm only asking because I offered someone Garrett Wilson for MHJ straight up and they countered wanting to give me Brooks and Allgeir for 2.6 along with the Wilson for MHJ part. I have no room for Allgeier, Bijan owner has not made a trade with me in 9 years so would probably end up just cutting him. So my question is even if you don't think Brooks is worth 2.6 and you know you likely were going to cut Allgeier what is the value of MHJ over Wilson enough for you to turn Brooks into 2.6?

I think no on both of those myself, but would be curious to hear differing opinions.

This feels expensive for MHJ but with FFPC roster restrictions and the other circumstances you're describing - I think it's justifiable to pay that price if you really do like Harrison that much more than Wilson.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Two part question, they go together.

1. Do you all think Johnathan Brooks is worth 2.6 in standard FFPC? I can get one free roster spot open now without to much of a hassle, but he'll take up an IR spot probably all year(we have 3) and of course no guarantee he'll ever be alright.

2. I'm only asking because I offered someone Garrett Wilson for MHJ straight up and they countered wanting to give me Brooks and Allgeir for 2.6 along with the Wilson for MHJ part. I have no room for Allgeier, Bijan owner has not made a trade with me in 9 years so would probably end up just cutting him. So my question is even if you don't think Brooks is worth 2.6 and you know you likely were going to cut Allgeier what is the value of MHJ over Wilson enough for you to turn Brooks into 2.6?

I think no on both of those myself, but would be curious to hear differing opinions.

Wilson + 2.6 for MHJ and a dart throw with Brooks? I'd that the MHJ side, but I'm higher on him that most. Like Kyler or not, MHJ's situation is MUCH more stable than whatever the heck the Jets are planning at QB.

 

[Raging weasel]

Went to accept the Likely for my 26 2nd but he had changed it. Now it's my 26 1st for Likely and 2 picks in this years draft, 2.10 and 3.08
Leaning towards taking it but going to sleep on it

 

[smbkrypt24]

Went to accept the Likely for my 26 2nd but he had changed it. Now it's my 26 1st for Likely and 2 picks in this years draft, 2.10 and 3.08
Leaning towards taking it but going to sleep on it

I am high on Likely but not sure id give a first

 

[menobrown]

Went to accept the Likely for my 26 2nd but he had changed it. Now it's my 26 1st for Likely and 2 picks in this years draft, 2.10 and 3.08
Leaning towards taking it but going to sleep on it

I am high on Likely but not sure if given a first

I'm really high on Likely but Andrews would have to be officially gone right now for me give up my future first. Even if my team looks loaded, have seen to many teams who look like the favorite end up in the draft lottery which is why I don't like giving up my future first unless it's to good of an offer to pass. This can only be in that conversation if Andrews is officially not on the team.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Went to accept the Likely for my 26 2nd but he had changed it. Now it's my 26 1st for Likely and 2 picks in this years draft, 2.10 and 3.08
Leaning towards taking it but going to sleep on it

That's a no from me.

 

[Birdie048]

Went to accept the Likely for my 26 2nd but he had changed it. Now it's my 26 1st for Likely and 2 picks in this years draft, 2.10 and 3.08
Leaning towards taking it but going to sleep on it

I think he is making a "Quantity" over Quality illusion here with the addition of the 2 picks. Do they even have real value to your roster?

Likely for a 1st is not something I would entertain. and those picks are not worth the cost.

 

[JohnnyU]

Went to accept the Likely for my 26 2nd but he had changed it. Now it's my 26 1st for Likely and 2 picks in this years draft, 2.10 and 3.08
Leaning towards taking it but going to sleep on it

I am high on Likely but not sure id give a first

..,,and just yesterday the idea of a 3rd was being tossed around.

 

[Raging weasel]

Yeah, ended up rejecting the trade.

 

[BeTheMatch]

What is Christian McCaffrey's trade value at this point, in terms of a rookie pick?

I'm getting widespread "no interest."

 

[Streetduck]

I was offered a late 1st for B. Hall, countered with the first & McCaffrey for Hall. It was rejected.

 

[BespokeJort]

Yeah, ended up rejecting the trade.

I bet if he offered for the 2nd before you could counter with resurrecting that and there’s a decent chance he’d take it

 

[sheerterror]

I was offered a late 1st for B. Hall, countered with the first & McCaffrey for Hall. It was rejected.

Geez I'd buy Hall for that all day. The late 1st is awful offer for Breece.

 

[BespokeJort]

What is Christian McCaffrey's trade value at this point, in terms of a rookie pick?

I'm getting widespread "no interest."

I’d gamble a non-top-3 2nd but don’t expect that to get him

 

[sheerterror]

What is Christian McCaffrey's trade value at this point, in terms of a rookie pick?

I'm getting widespread "no interest."

Early 2nd?

I think I would exit at that price despite having won 3 championships with him as my horse.

 

[JohnnyU]

What is Christian McCaffrey's trade value at this point, in terms of a rookie pick?

I'm getting widespread "no interest."

I’d gamble a non-top-3 2nd but don’t expect that to get him

McCaffrey is not a sell, he’s a hold.

 

[BeTheMatch]

What is Christian McCaffrey's trade value at this point, in terms of a rookie pick?

I'm getting widespread "no interest."

I’d gamble a non-top-3 2nd but don’t expect that to get him

McCaffrey is not a sell, he’s a hold.

I agree. But I'm in a total rebuild