Dynasty Value Discussion Thread (2 Viewers)

[ghostguy123]

Just got offered Olave and Njoku for 1.10 and 3.01. Trying to three peat in this league. TE1 right now is Engram. What do you guys think about this offer? I like Olave, don’t love him, the QB situation worries me. But the way I look at his offer, it’s basicslly Olave for the 1.10 and Njoku for 3.1.

Full PPR, 1.5 TE Premium btw. Olave would probably slot in as like my WR5 or WR6.

How many WRs do you need to start? And what do your RBs look like? I can see going Harvey or Kaleb Johnson over Olave.
Or Loveland or Warren if there.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I wouldn't call it a "bargain". In startup ADP 10 rookies are going before Olave.

I was speaking to the whole package though - TE-P makes Njoku somewhat valuable, no? Certainly more than a 3rd.

 

[IHEARTFF]

I wouldn't call it a "bargain". In startup ADP 10 rookies are going before Olave.

I was speaking to the whole package though - TE-P makes Njoku somewhat valuable, no? Certainly more than a 3rd.

Njoku is I think worth more than 3.1. Trade seems fair but necessarily a good fit.

 

[IHEARTFF]

On an unrelated note, does anyone want Cole Kmet for a 2026 5th?

 

[JohnnyU]

On an unrelated note, does anyone want Cole Kmet for a 2026 5th?

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[JoeJoe88]

Just got offered Olave and Njoku for 1.10 and 3.01. Trying to three peat in this league. TE1 right now is Engram. What do you guys think about this offer? I like Olave, don’t love him, the QB situation worries me. But the way I look at his offer, it’s basicslly Olave for the 1.10 and Njoku for 3.1.

Full PPR, 1.5 TE Premium btw. Olave would probably slot in as like my WR5 or WR6.

How many WRs do you need to start? And what do your RBs look like? I can see going Harvey or Kaleb Johnson over Olave.
Or Loveland or Warren if there.

Start 11 total, 2QB league. Only have to start 2 of each at RB and WR.

RB room: Bijan, Gibbs, Jacobs, Walker, Charbs are the notables

WR: Puka, Nico, Tee, Adams, Aiyuk, DK, Jennings are the notables

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

On an unrelated note, does anyone want Cole Kmet for a 2026 5th?

Sadly, no. I’m in a TE-P must start 2 TE league and he’s my TE-2. Gah.

 

[mjb03003]

I wouldn't call it a "bargain". In startup ADP 10 rookies are going before Olave.

I was speaking to the whole package though - TE-P makes Njoku somewhat valuable, no? Certainly more than a 3rd.

Yes. For now. I think there’s a whole thread that could be written about keeping the championship window open as long as possible by never falling into the trap of going “all in.” Adam Harstad has written extensively about how unlikely it is any “win now” trade is going to be the reason you win, and it very well could be the reason you lose.

The more I play dynasty the more I shy away from aging players (Njoku fits this description, not Olave) and those who have poor situations and need the stars to align to see their value rise or hold steady instead of continuing to slide (I think both Njoku and Olave may fall into this category).

@JoeJoe88 says Olave would be his WR5-6 and Njoku would be depth or a matchups play with Njoku… personally I’m not trading the picks unless we get someone who upgrades my lineup because the rookies will have far more value insulation and can be more easily flipped to fill a need if/when one arises.

Lots of ways to play this game though.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Just got offered Olave and Njoku for 1.10 and 3.01. Trying to three peat in this league. TE1 right now is Engram. What do you guys think about this offer? I like Olave, don’t love him, the QB situation worries me. But the way I look at his offer, it’s basicslly Olave for the 1.10 and Njoku for 3.1.

Full PPR, 1.5 TE Premium btw. Olave would probably slot in as like my WR5 or WR6.

How many WRs do you need to start? And what do your RBs look like? I can see going Harvey or Kaleb Johnson over Olave.
Or Loveland or Warren if there.

Start 11 total, 2QB league. Only have to start 2 of each at RB and WR.

RB room: Bijan, Gibbs, Jacobs, Walker, Charbs are the notables

WR: Puka, Nico, Tee, Adams, Aiyuk, DK, Jennings are the notables

Sounds like a deal you don’t have to make. Seems like getting younger with the 1.10 helps your roster more. And maybe one of the TEs slides to you. Unlikely, but possible.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

@JoeJoe88 says Olave would be his WR5-6 and Njoku would be depth or a matchups play with Njoku… personally I’m not trading the picks unless we get someone who upgrades my lineup because the rookies will have far more value insulation and can be more easily flipped to fill a need if/when one arises.

Yep, if you look at my next response you’ll see I said something similar above.

 

[ghostguy123]

Just got offered Olave and Njoku for 1.10 and 3.01. Trying to three peat in this league. TE1 right now is Engram. What do you guys think about this offer? I like Olave, don’t love him, the QB situation worries me. But the way I look at his offer, it’s basicslly Olave for the 1.10 and Njoku for 3.1.

Full PPR, 1.5 TE Premium btw. Olave would probably slot in as like my WR5 or WR6.

How many WRs do you need to start? And what do your RBs look like? I can see going Harvey or Kaleb Johnson over Olave.
Or Loveland or Warren if there.

Start 11 total, 2QB league. Only have to start 2 of each at RB and WR.

RB room: Bijan, Gibbs, Jacobs, Walker, Charbs are the notables

WR: Puka, Nico, Tee, Adams, Aiyuk, DK, Jennings are the notables

I don't see a reason to make that move then. If you want Njoku just go get him by himself.

It would be a ok move value wise, but I'm thinking the guys that will be there at 10 might have a better chance of being something that Olave does of not getting a career ending concussion.

Tough call

 

[JoeJoe88]

Thank you, guys. I agree with consensus here. I declined the offer.

 

[Raging weasel]

Just got offered Olave and Njoku for 1.10 and 3.01. Trying to three peat in this league. TE1 right now is Engram. What do you guys think about this offer? I like Olave, don’t love him, the QB situation worries me. But the way I look at his offer, it’s basicslly Olave for the 1.10 and Njoku for 3.1.

Full PPR, 1.5 TE Premium btw. Olave would probably slot in as like my WR5 or WR6.

How many WRs do you need to start? And what do your RBs look like? I can see going Harvey or Kaleb Johnson over Olave.
Or Loveland or Warren if there.

Start 11 total, 2QB league. Only have to start 2 of each at RB and WR.

RB room: Bijan, Gibbs, Jacobs, Walker, Charbs are the notables

WR: Puka, Nico, Tee, Adams, Aiyuk, DK, Jennings are the notables

You don't need Olave and personally, I like Engram better than Njoku. In my three rookie drafts at least 1 of the two top TEs fell to 1.10. And you could definitely get a TE from the next tier at 3.1.

 

[joey]

On an unrelated note, does anyone want Cole Kmet for a 2026 5th?

I'd pay a 5th for him but I'm really looking for a TE.

#crossThreadHumor

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Trade seems fair but necessarily a good fit.

Exactly where I am on it. Solid team as-is, go with the youts.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

Gave Jeudy, Tank Dell and 3.10

Got Dak, 2.04

Here to gloat...

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Gave Jeudy, Tank Dell and 3.10

Got Dak, 2.04

Here to gloat...

:::spit take:::

OH C’MON!

 

[mjb03003]

Gave Jeudy, Tank Dell and 3.10

Got Dak, 2.04

Here to gloat...

Superflex or 1QB?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Gave Jeudy, Tank Dell and 3.10

Got Dak, 2.04

Here to gloat...

Superflex or 1QB?

Oh, yeah - good question. I’d assumed bargain in SF, but 1 QB changes things

 

[Buckna]

Just got offered Olave and Njoku for 1.10 and 3.01. Trying to three peat in this league. TE1 right now is Engram. What do you guys think about this offer? I like Olave, don’t love him, the QB situation worries me. But the way I look at his offer, it’s basicslly Olave for the 1.10 and Njoku for 3.1.

Full PPR, 1.5 TE Premium btw. Olave would probably slot in as like my WR5 or WR6.

Value wise it seems like a bargain.

The only concern I’d have is what your team needs are. It sounds like you don’t need either player.

You’re likely to get a decent RB at 1.10, so I guess it depends on whether you need a RB.

My take as well, depends on team needs and sounds like he doesn't really need Olave or Njoku. I'd rather have both over the picks in a vacuum but its close enough that the picks offer more flexibility in addressing actual roster needs. Although Engram as my TE1 is a not position I would be even slightly comfortable with. Might be looking to move up a few spots to see if I could get Warren or Loveland or acquire another TE somehow.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Might be looking to move up a few spots to see if I could get Warren or Loveland or acquire another TE somehow.

Yeah, IMO this is the correct approach. Use the assets to address a need. keep it simple and concentrate the value on 1 player of need. Or keep the pick and gamble a little whee!

 

[JoeJoe88]

Just got offered Olave and Njoku for 1.10 and 3.01. Trying to three peat in this league. TE1 right now is Engram. What do you guys think about this offer? I like Olave, don’t love him, the QB situation worries me. But the way I look at his offer, it’s basicslly Olave for the 1.10 and Njoku for 3.1.

Full PPR, 1.5 TE Premium btw. Olave would probably slot in as like my WR5 or WR6.

Value wise it seems like a bargain.

The only concern I’d have is what your team needs are. It sounds like you don’t need either player.

You’re likely to get a decent RB at 1.10, so I guess it depends on whether you need a RB.

My take as well, depends on team needs and sounds like he doesn't really need Olave or Njoku. I'd rather have both over the picks in a vacuum but it’s close enough that the picks offer more flexibility in addressing actual roster needs. Although Engram as my TE1 is a not position I would be even slightly comfortable with. Might be looking to move up a few spots to see if I could get Warren or Loveland or acquire another TE somehow.

I do think one of Loveland or Warren will be there at 1.10, and that will very likely be my pick.

I also have the 2.3.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

12 team SF PPR, who wins:
Bo Nix + 1.10 + 3.10
-or-
ARSB

 

[JoeJoe88]

12 team SF PPR, who wins:
Bo Nix + 1.10 + 3.10
-or-
ARSB

12 team SF I think I’d have to to go with the Bo side.

 

[titusbramble]

I would probably go ARSB but this could easily be wrong in a couple of years. As an ARSB owner in SF, if I was offered this while the other guy was on the clock I'd need to both have a big QB need and have one of Judkins or Egbuka available to pick to even start thinking about it

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

12 team SF PPR, who wins:
Bo Nix + 1.10 + 3.10
-or-
ARSB

100% the Nix side. I'm not confident the Lions offense will be anywhere near as potent without Ben Johnson.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'm not confident the Lions offense will be anywhere near as potent without Ben Johnson.

I’m pretty confident that they will still be very potent.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This potential deal would likely help me to complete better this year, but also gets me 5 years older at RB. I worry that it’s a sell-low on Breece since he’s likely done with the Jets, if not this year then next.

This is only my opinion, but if he takes Al-Shaair and Hall then I'd probably do that deal if you're in contention. This comes with all the usual caveats and uncertainty and also is a window into how I've always coveted Barkley in my two leagues, but I'd do that deal if I was getting Barkley.

That’s the idea - offer Hall+Al-Shaair for Barkley.

I believe I’d be in contention, yes. And if not, probably easy to flip Barkley at the deadline for future 1sts.

But I’ve got a bit of FOMO on Hall’s future value that may or may not manifest. I keep seeing trade rumors, and he’s a FA after this year IIRC.

But Barkley >> Hall this year, for sure.

Yeah, Breece could blow up if traded for sure. That's the risk you run, I guess.

Well, he put it up. I’m likely going to reject it. He keeps negging Hall - ok, so why do you want him so badly then? Just altruistic like that?

I love Saquan, and won’t hesitate to pull the trigger in redraft, but I think I’m gonna hold Hall. If he goes to the Cowboys or literally any better situation imma kick myself for moving him. I just don’t like getting 5 years older with an already aging roster.

It’s super tempting though.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

@Dez @Gally any opinions on this? My team is an aging contender. I don’t believe swapping Saquan for Hall instantly makes me the league favorite. Probably improves my chances 5-10%, but gets me a lot older.

See OP last page for full details of league/scoring/format/team status. (Hall+Azeez Al-Shaair for Saquan)

Maybe I’m missing something here and I’m crazy to not get Saquan.

Leaning no but it’s nagging at me.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

Gave Jeudy, Tank Dell and 3.10

Got Dak, 2.04

Here to gloat...

Superflex or 1QB?

Oh, yeah - good question. I’d assumed bargain in SF, but 1 QB changes things

It's 1QB/PPR... I have been searching for a QB, as I have Kyler and Bryce Young.

Not a great trade but was happy to turn my 3rd into a 2nd and get rid of Tank Dell in the process.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

It's 1QB/PPR... I have been searching for a QB, as I have Kyler and Bryce Young.

Not a great trade but was happy to turn my 3rd into a 2nd and get rid of Tank Dell in the process.

Oh ok. Yeah 1 QB changes the equation. No spit take - you paid a decent price though. I don’t think it’s bad. QBs still matter.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

It's 1QB/PPR... I have been searching for a QB, as I have Kyler and Bryce Young.

Not a great trade but was happy to turn my 3rd into a 2nd and get rid of Tank Dell in the process.

Oh ok. Yeah 1 QB changes the equation. No spit take - you paid a decent price though. I don’t think it’s bad. QBs still matter.

Jeudy was behind AJ Brown, Jamar Chase, JSN, Nabers and BTJ and I like having 3 picks in the top 20 for some RB darts.

Debating on 1.05 + to move into 1.01 for Jeanty.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Debating on 1.05 + to move into 1.01 for Jeanty.

If you can pull it off, it’s a solid move.

 

[Gally]

@Dez @Gally any opinions on this? My team is an aging contender. I don’t believe swapping Saquan for Hall instantly makes me the league favorite. Probably improves my chances 5-10%, but gets me a lot older.

See OP last page for full details of league/scoring/format/team status. (Hall+Azeez Al-Shaair for Saquan)

Maybe I’m missing something here and I’m crazy to not get Saquan.

Leaning no but it’s nagging at me.

I typically look at 2 yr windows because things change fast. For the next two years I much rather have Barkley

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I typically look at 2 yr windows because things change fast. For the next two years I much rather have Barkley

No concerns about age & the massive workload he had last year?

 

[Gally]

I typically look at 2 yr windows because things change fast. For the next two years I much rather have Barkley

No concerns about age & the massive workload he had last year?

Not for me.

 

[BoltNlava]

thoughts on Likely TE+?


Dynasty with contracts

 

[menobrown]

thoughts on Likely TE+?

In terms of ballpark value he was cut in 21 FFPC TEP 1 QB leagues and was drafted in the rookie/FA draft after 19 rookies which would ballpark him as 2.8, and ahead of every rookie TE except Warren and Loveland.

It looks like Andrews is most likely to return but thats still not a given. I think Garafalo(sp?) on NFLN was saying a few days ago he thinks what I've been saying for awhile that something has to give in terms of extending Andrews or Likely and what that might lead to for the TE they don't extend, with most assuming that LIkely is the TE they prefer to extend. So small chance Andrews ends up somewhere else but right now I'm planning on 2026.

I wish I could recall where I heard it, I think it was someone on NFLN, but thought it was interesting that they said Likely was banged up a lot last year with some injury he suffered early in the year. This was news to me. But good news if this is true because it suggests more of a role if he's healthy regardless if Andrews is back or not, and checks with what a Ravens beat writer I follow has said recently, that Likely's role should be trending up even with Andrews returning.

So long story short my thoughts is he's probably a TE2 with Andrews around, but in event of Andrews injury or departure I think he steps right into a mid TE1 fantasy role.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

How far away is a trade of AJ Brown for CeeDee Lamb (include upcharge as owner is a Cowboys fan).

I've considered sending my AJ Brown + 1.05 for Lamb. Is that a lot? This season, as a Cowboys fan, points to volume coming to CeeDee.

IMO, CeeDee is one of the top dynasty assets. I don’t think AJ and the 1.05 is close. You’re short at least another first, maybe more.

Lamb trade in my league a few weeks ago was

• Outlaws gave up Year 2025 Draft Pick 1.08; Year 2026 Round 1 Draft Pick from Outlaws; Year 2026 Round 2 Draft Pick from Outlaws; Year 2026 Round 2 Draft Pick from Slickwillies
• Black Knights gave up Lamb, CeeDee DAL WR

I will take the Outlaw side on this. Two firsts and two seconds are not bad if you want to rebuild completely, but I'm not sure the 2026 class will do that. 2025 1.8 helps.

I think it is fair, but I would want a proven younger player added to that haul to make me want to give up Lamb.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

thoughts on Likely TE+?


Dynasty with contracts

I traded the 2.11, 3.7, and 2026 2nd for Likely. It took about two weeks to complete that trade. Dynasty 1QB PPR start 10. The trade was completed in mid-April.

I only had Kittle and Mayer as my tight ends. My thinking was more for 2026 than 2025 and still is. I think it is likely that Likely (see what I did there) gets extended or gets an opportunity somewhere to become a tight end one and I feel he will be a good one with a high ceiling. I also feel like I overpaid a little but not by enough to not have buyer's remorse.

 

[JohnnyU]

thoughts on Likely TE+?


Dynasty with contracts

I traded the 2.11, 3.7, and 2026 2nd for Likely. It took about two weeks to complete that trade. Dynasty 1QB PPR start 10. The trade was completed in mid-April.

I only had Kittle and Mayer as my tight ends. My thinking was more for 2026 than 2025 and still is. I think it is likely that Likely (see what I did there) gets extended or gets an opportunity somewhere to become a tight end one and I feel he will be a good one with a high ceiling. I also feel like I overpaid a little but not by enough to not have buyer's remorse.

I acutally like what you did. Did you overpay given the current market, maybe a little, but I think he's a future top 5 TE in the not so distant future.

 

[-OZ-]

Price check on aisle Q please

Bryce Young, Carolina
SF, 12 teams.

I’m wiling admit I might value him more than others. IMO he’s in the QB 15-20 range. Slightly more valuable than Cam Ward, on par with Dak, Penix, purdy, and McCarthy. Which, imo makes him worth the 1.02 or 1.03. Others in my league have said I’m crazy to value him higher than a late first. I’m not really looking to sell but I figured if I got decent value it could be worthwhile. (He’s my 3 behind Caleb and Nix, as I’m looking to repeat).

 

[ffmail4me]

I think with this draft class, if a team needs a QB, I can't see why they wouldn't give a top 3 or 4 pick for Young, since most rate him a better prospect than Ward anyways.

 

[joey]

Price check on aisle Q please

Bryce Young, Carolina
SF, 12 teams.

I’m wiling admit I might value him more than others. IMO he’s in the QB 15-20 range. Slightly more valuable than Cam Ward, on par with Dak, Penix, purdy, and McCarthy. Which, imo makes him worth the 1.02 or 1.03. Others in my league have said I’m crazy to value him higher than a late first. I’m not really looking to sell but I figured if I got decent value it could be worthwhile. (He’s my 3 behind Caleb and Nix, as I’m looking to repeat).

I have him in my only SF league as my QB2. I definitely value him much higher than others because he’s my only “real starting QB” behind Lamar, with Carr retiring and Shough as the hopeful replacement.

That said, I would definitely take Penix, Purdy, McCarthy and likely Dak over him. I could see maybe having him in a similar tier to Ward but I’d probably have the “Shiny New 1st Overall Pick” in Ward over the “He’s Been Horrible in the Pros but Finally Showed a Glimpse after Being Benched” in Bryce.

So, yea, late 1st rounder sounds right to me.

 

[-OZ-]

Price check on aisle Q please

Bryce Young, Carolina
SF, 12 teams.

I’m wiling admit I might value him more than others. IMO he’s in the QB 15-20 range. Slightly more valuable than Cam Ward, on par with Dak, Penix, purdy, and McCarthy. Which, imo makes him worth the 1.02 or 1.03. Others in my league have said I’m crazy to value him higher than a late first. I’m not really looking to sell but I figured if I got decent value it could be worthwhile. (He’s my 3 behind Caleb and Nix, as I’m looking to repeat).

I have him in my only SF league as my QB2. I definitely value him much higher than others because he’s my only “real starting QB” behind Lamar, with Carr retiring and Shough as the hopeful replacement.

That said, I would definitely take Penix, Purdy, McCarthy and likely Dak over him. I could see maybe having him in a similar tier to Ward but I’d probably have the “Shiny New 1st Overall Pick” in Ward over the “He’s Been Horrible in the Pros but Finally Showed a Glimpse after Being Benched” in Bryce.

So, yea, late 1st rounder sounds right to me.

Thanks. Now I’m curious - where would you put Ward in the SF rookie draft?

 

[titusbramble]

Well I took Ward 1.03, if only because I'm not touching either of the top two WRs with a barge pole, I have a QB need, he was BPA at the time imo and after the top three I have maybe two more players I have a first round grades on so market to trade down was non existent

 

[JohnnyU]

Well I took Ward 1.03, if only because I'm not touching either of the top two WRs with a barge pole, I have a QB need, he was BPA at the time imo and after the top three I have maybe two more players I have a first round grades on so market to trade down was non existent

Personally I don't think this is the year to be taking a QB that high, even in superFlex, because I don't like these QBs per se. I would have taken one of the Ohio St. RBs assuming Jeanty is gone. I can't see Ward ever being a top tier fantasy QB. Just my opinion of course, so take with a grain of salt.

 

[-OZ-]

Well I took Ward 1.03, if only because I'm not touching either of the top two WRs with a barge pole, I have a QB need, he was BPA at the time imo and after the top three I have maybe two more players I have a first round grades on so market to trade down was non existent

Personally I don't think this is the year to be taking a QB that high, even in superFlex, because I don't like these QBs per se. I would have taken one of the Ohio St. RBs assuming Jeanty is gone. I can't see Ward ever being a top tier fantasy QB. Just my opinion of course, so take with a grain of salt.

As a titans fan I hope you’re wrong, although it’s clearly possible to be a good or great NFL QB and not great in FF.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Price check on aisle Q please

Bryce Young, Carolina
SF, 12 teams.

I’m wiling admit I might value him more than others. IMO he’s in the QB 15-20 range. Slightly more valuable than Cam Ward, on par with Dak, Penix, purdy, and McCarthy. Which, imo makes him worth the 1.02 or 1.03. Others in my league have said I’m crazy to value him higher than a late first. I’m not really looking to sell but I figured if I got decent value it could be worthwhile. (He’s my 3 behind Caleb and Nix, as I’m looking to repeat).

I've got him closer to a late 2025 1st. The 2025 draft is chock full of good to great players and I'm not convinced Young's late season improvement was real.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Price check on aisle Q please

Bryce Young, Carolina
SF, 12 teams.

I’m wiling admit I might value him more than others. IMO he’s in the QB 15-20 range. Slightly more valuable than Cam Ward, on par with Dak, Penix, purdy, and McCarthy. Which, imo makes him worth the 1.02 or 1.03. Others in my league have said I’m crazy to value him higher than a late first. I’m not really looking to sell but I figured if I got decent value it could be worthwhile. (He’s my 3 behind Caleb and Nix, as I’m looking to repeat).

I have him in my only SF league as my QB2. I definitely value him much higher than others because he’s my only “real starting QB” behind Lamar, with Carr retiring and Shough as the hopeful replacement.

That said, I would definitely take Penix, Purdy, McCarthy and likely Dak over him. I could see maybe having him in a similar tier to Ward but I’d probably have the “Shiny New 1st Overall Pick” in Ward over the “He’s Been Horrible in the Pros but Finally Showed a Glimpse after Being Benched” in Bryce.

So, yea, late 1st rounder sounds right to me.

Thanks. Now I’m curious - where would you put Ward in the SF rookie draft?

The team picking 1.01 is very typically there because they don’t have QBs.

So I’m betting he’s frequently the 1.01

I believe Jeanty is a better pick. If it’s IDP I have it Jeanty ~> cheat code DB/WR Hunter ~> Ward

I actually prefer a couple of the other RBs over Ward as well, but just from a value proposition if no one wants to move up, I feel like you have to take the QB because it’s SF & you’ll be able to flip him for more.