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Just received an offer of 1.7 and 2.10 for kupp in a 10 team dyno. Feels like a fair offer but I’m definitely in win now mode which makes me hesitant. The offer was revoked which is typically how this team goes about things if the offer stands too long and it took me a long while to get back to him. What’s the thoughts on this? I have Jefferson , Godwin and mclaurin as well. Start 2-3

I understand your hesitancy on this one. I’m in a win now mode in a 1QB dynasty league and have Kupp. It’s hard to let him go simply because of the numbers he’s put up in the last two years. If he’s on the field, he’s a massive contributor to helping your dynasty team win on a week to week basis. I also have Jefferson/Amari Cooper/Gabe Davis/Chark/Hodgins and a bunch of other good depth. It’s been a killer combo putting Jefferson and Kupp together as your WR1 and 2 last season and one before.

Yes there are logical reasons to sell but he’s just been so ******** good before the injury
He’s worth considerably more than the 1.07 imo. He’s 29, but for his style of play, he can still have 3 more stud seasons with 2 more WR2/3 seasons after that.

People seem to be missing just how dominant he’s been - I just don’t see any player at 1.07 being close. Let’s put some names to that 1.07 and then compare him to what has been the most valuable WR in the league the last 3 seasons.
Completely agree with this. I would not sell Kupp for 1.07 (Don't own him anywhere) and I would 100% pay 1.07 and 2.10 for him. I offered more earlier this offseason and was declined with no counter.
Do you guys feel Ridley or Jameson Williams added to that offer would be enough to move him? I’m at best looking at rb4 wr2 at seven. Most likely would end up being my choice between rb5 and wr3 available at seven. I also agree 100% with at the notion kupp will be a top wr for at least two more years. And serviceable some time after.
I’d give my Kupp for Jameson and the 7 easily.
Yes - Jameson went as high as 1.04 last season.
1.04/1.5 and 1.07 is surely in the ballpark for Kupp at the very least.
Looks like we won't see any Kupp trades this offseason if people value him at (2) mid 1st's. That's way too steep for a 30 yr old WR coming off an ACL.
 
Just received an offer of 1.7 and 2.10 for kupp in a 10 team dyno. Feels like a fair offer but I’m definitely in win now mode which makes me hesitant. The offer was revoked which is typically how this team goes about things if the offer stands too long and it took me a long while to get back to him. What’s the thoughts on this? I have Jefferson , Godwin and mclaurin as well. Start 2-3

I understand your hesitancy on this one. I’m in a win now mode in a 1QB dynasty league and have Kupp. It’s hard to let him go simply because of the numbers he’s put up in the last two years. If he’s on the field, he’s a massive contributor to helping your dynasty team win on a week to week basis. I also have Jefferson/Amari Cooper/Gabe Davis/Chark/Hodgins and a bunch of other good depth. It’s been a killer combo putting Jefferson and Kupp together as your WR1 and 2 last season and one before.

Yes there are logical reasons to sell but he’s just been so ******** good before the injury
He’s worth considerably more than the 1.07 imo. He’s 29, but for his style of play, he can still have 3 more stud seasons with 2 more WR2/3 seasons after that.

People seem to be missing just how dominant he’s been - I just don’t see any player at 1.07 being close. Let’s put some names to that 1.07 and then compare him to what has been the most valuable WR in the league the last 3 seasons.
Completely agree with this. I would not sell Kupp for 1.07 (Don't own him anywhere) and I would 100% pay 1.07 and 2.10 for him. I offered more earlier this offseason and was declined with no counter.
Do you guys feel Ridley or Jameson Williams added to that offer would be enough to move him? I’m at best looking at rb4 wr2 at seven. Most likely would end up being my choice between rb5 and wr3 available at seven. I also agree 100% with at the notion kupp will be a top wr for at least two more years. And serviceable some time after.
I’d give my Kupp for Jameson and the 7 easily.
Yes - Jameson went as high as 1.04 last season.
1.04/1.5 and 1.07 is surely in the ballpark for Kupp at the very least.
Looks like we won't see any Kupp trades this offseason if people value him at (2) mid 1st's. That's way too steep for a 30 yr old WR coming off an ACL.
The age has been covered and he’s not coming off an ACL tear.
 
Just received an offer of 1.7 and 2.10 for kupp in a 10 team dyno. Feels like a fair offer but I’m definitely in win now mode which makes me hesitant. The offer was revoked which is typically how this team goes about things if the offer stands too long and it took me a long while to get back to him. What’s the thoughts on this? I have Jefferson , Godwin and mclaurin as well. Start 2-3

I understand your hesitancy on this one. I’m in a win now mode in a 1QB dynasty league and have Kupp. It’s hard to let him go simply because of the numbers he’s put up in the last two years. If he’s on the field, he’s a massive contributor to helping your dynasty team win on a week to week basis. I also have Jefferson/Amari Cooper/Gabe Davis/Chark/Hodgins and a bunch of other good depth. It’s been a killer combo putting Jefferson and Kupp together as your WR1 and 2 last season and one before.

Yes there are logical reasons to sell but he’s just been so ******** good before the injury
He’s worth considerably more than the 1.07 imo. He’s 29, but for his style of play, he can still have 3 more stud seasons with 2 more WR2/3 seasons after that.

People seem to be missing just how dominant he’s been - I just don’t see any player at 1.07 being close. Let’s put some names to that 1.07 and then compare him to what has been the most valuable WR in the league the last 3 seasons.
Completely agree with this. I would not sell Kupp for 1.07 (Don't own him anywhere) and I would 100% pay 1.07 and 2.10 for him. I offered more earlier this offseason and was declined with no counter.
Do you guys feel Ridley or Jameson Williams added to that offer would be enough to move him? I’m at best looking at rb4 wr2 at seven. Most likely would end up being my choice between rb5 and wr3 available at seven. I also agree 100% with at the notion kupp will be a top wr for at least two more years. And serviceable some time after.
I’d give my Kupp for Jameson and the 7 easily.
Yes - Jameson went as high as 1.04 last season.
1.04/1.5 and 1.07 is surely in the ballpark for Kupp at the very least.
Looks like we won't see any Kupp trades this offseason if people value him at (2) mid 1st's. That's way too steep for a 30 yr old WR coming off an ACL.
High ankle. I did the same thing. Stupid 🧠
 
12 Team ppr, 1 qb

1.05/Mooney for Higgins/Carter (have Hall)

I don't understand this trade since it is not SF...Higgins by quite a large margin...very large.
Still hilarious how everyone on here talks about how valuable Tee Higgins is, but in both leagues I have made him available the best offer I can get is a 2024 projected late 1st. I offered him to several teams for a mid-late 1st this year and a 2024 1st and was laughed off of the negotiations table.
 
12 Team ppr, 1 qb

1.05/Mooney for Higgins/Carter (have Hall)
I would pay 1.05 + Mooney for Higgins one million times out of a million.

I wouldn’t trade Higgins for that.

ETA: if I did, and had JSN/Mooney as a result, I wouldn’t be sad, I’d still rather have Higgins though.
 
Just received an offer of 1.7 and 2.10 for kupp in a 10 team dyno. Feels like a fair offer but I’m definitely in win now mode which makes me hesitant. The offer was revoked which is typically how this team goes about things if the offer stands too long and it took me a long while to get back to him. What’s the thoughts on this? I have Jefferson , Godwin and mclaurin as well. Start 2-3

I understand your hesitancy on this one. I’m in a win now mode in a 1QB dynasty league and have Kupp. It’s hard to let him go simply because of the numbers he’s put up in the last two years. If he’s on the field, he’s a massive contributor to helping your dynasty team win on a week to week basis. I also have Jefferson/Amari Cooper/Gabe Davis/Chark/Hodgins and a bunch of other good depth. It’s been a killer combo putting Jefferson and Kupp together as your WR1 and 2 last season and one before.

Yes there are logical reasons to sell but he’s just been so ******** good before the injury
He’s worth considerably more than the 1.07 imo. He’s 29, but for his style of play, he can still have 3 more stud seasons with 2 more WR2/3 seasons after that.

People seem to be missing just how dominant he’s been - I just don’t see any player at 1.07 being close. Let’s put some names to that 1.07 and then compare him to what has been the most valuable WR in the league the last 3 seasons.
Completely agree with this. I would not sell Kupp for 1.07 (Don't own him anywhere) and I would 100% pay 1.07 and 2.10 for him. I offered more earlier this offseason and was declined with no counter.
Do you guys feel Ridley or Jameson Williams added to that offer would be enough to move him? I’m at best looking at rb4 wr2 at seven. Most likely would end up being my choice between rb5 and wr3 available at seven. I also agree 100% with at the notion kupp will be a top wr for at least two more years. And serviceable some time after.
I’d give my Kupp for Jameson and the 7 easily.
Yes - Jameson went as high as 1.04 last season.
1.04/1.5 and 1.07 is surely in the ballpark for Kupp at the very least.
Looks like we won't see any Kupp trades this offseason if people value him at (2) mid 1st's. That's way too steep for a 30 yr old WR coming off an ACL.
The age has been covered and he’s not coming off an ACL tear.
Oof. Even worse. The dreaded lisfranc combined with ankle tear and old age.

Kupp is done. Mid 3rd rookie pick value IMO.
 
ust received an offer of 1.7 and 2.10 for kupp in a 10 team dyno. Feels like a fair offer but I’m definitely in win now mode which makes me hesitant. The offer was revoked which is typically how this team goes about things if the offer stands too long and it took me a long while to get back to him. What’s the thoughts on this? I have Jefferson , Godwin and mclaurin as well. Start 2-3

I understand your hesitancy on this one. I’m in a win now mode in a 1QB dynasty league and have Kupp. It’s hard to let him go simply because of the numbers he’s put up in the last two years. If he’s on the field, he’s a massive contributor to helping your dynasty team win on a week to week basis. I also have Jefferson/Amari Cooper/Gabe Davis/Chark/Hodgins and a bunch of other good depth. It’s been a killer combo putting Jefferson and Kupp together as your WR1 and 2 last season and one before.

Yes there are logical reasons to sell but he’s just been so ******** good before the injury
He’s worth considerably more than the 1.07 imo. He’s 29, but for his style of play, he can still have 3 more stud seasons with 2 more WR2/3 seasons after that.

People seem to be missing just how dominant he’s been - I just don’t see any player at 1.07 being close. Let’s put some names to that 1.07 and then compare him to what has been the most valuable WR in the league the last 3 seasons.
Completely agree with this. I would not sell Kupp for 1.07 (Don't own him anywhere) and I would 100% pay 1.07 and 2.10 for him. I offered more earlier this offseason and was declined with no counter.
Do you guys feel Ridley or Jameson Williams added to that offer would be enough to move him? I’m at best looking at rb4 wr2 at seven. Most likely would end up being my choice between rb5 and wr3 available at seven. I also agree 100% with at the notion kupp will be a top wr for at least two more years. And serviceable some time after.
I’d give my Kupp for Jameson and the 7 easily.
Yes - Jameson went as high as 1.04 last season.
1.04/1.5 and 1.07 is surely in the ballpark for Kupp at the very least.
Looks like we won't see any Kupp trades this offseason if people value him at (2) mid 1st's. That's way too steep for a 30 yr old WR coming off an ACL.
The age has been covered and he’s not coming off an ACL tear.
Oof. Even worse. The dreaded lisfranc combined with ankle tear and old age.

Kupp is done. Mid 3rd rookie pick value IMO.
Had neither a lisfranc injury or ankle tear. High ankle sprain.
 
ust received an offer of 1.7 and 2.10 for kupp in a 10 team dyno. Feels like a fair offer but I’m definitely in win now mode which makes me hesitant. The offer was revoked which is typically how this team goes about things if the offer stands too long and it took me a long while to get back to him. What’s the thoughts on this? I have Jefferson , Godwin and mclaurin as well. Start 2-3

I understand your hesitancy on this one. I’m in a win now mode in a 1QB dynasty league and have Kupp. It’s hard to let him go simply because of the numbers he’s put up in the last two years. If he’s on the field, he’s a massive contributor to helping your dynasty team win on a week to week basis. I also have Jefferson/Amari Cooper/Gabe Davis/Chark/Hodgins and a bunch of other good depth. It’s been a killer combo putting Jefferson and Kupp together as your WR1 and 2 last season and one before.

Yes there are logical reasons to sell but he’s just been so ******** good before the injury
He’s worth considerably more than the 1.07 imo. He’s 29, but for his style of play, he can still have 3 more stud seasons with 2 more WR2/3 seasons after that.

People seem to be missing just how dominant he’s been - I just don’t see any player at 1.07 being close. Let’s put some names to that 1.07 and then compare him to what has been the most valuable WR in the league the last 3 seasons.
Completely agree with this. I would not sell Kupp for 1.07 (Don't own him anywhere) and I would 100% pay 1.07 and 2.10 for him. I offered more earlier this offseason and was declined with no counter.
Do you guys feel Ridley or Jameson Williams added to that offer would be enough to move him? I’m at best looking at rb4 wr2 at seven. Most likely would end up being my choice between rb5 and wr3 available at seven. I also agree 100% with at the notion kupp will be a top wr for at least two more years. And serviceable some time after.
I’d give my Kupp for Jameson and the 7 easily.
Yes - Jameson went as high as 1.04 last season.
1.04/1.5 and 1.07 is surely in the ballpark for Kupp at the very least.
Looks like we won't see any Kupp trades this offseason if people value him at (2) mid 1st's. That's way too steep for a 30 yr old WR coming off an ACL.
The age has been covered and he’s not coming off an ACL tear.
Oof. Even worse. The dreaded lisfranc combined with ankle tear and old age.

Kupp is done. Mid 3rd rookie pick value IMO.
Had neither a lisfranc injury or ankle tear. High ankle sprain.
I think this is one of those cats I mentioned earlier.
 
Had neither a lisfranc injury or ankle tear. High ankle sprain.
It’s a schtick. Not a good schtick, but a schtick.
That said, find me one dynasty trade where someone gives up more than one 1st for Kupp. Not happening.

Kupp owners are delusional. A 30 yr old WR isn’t bringing in more than a mid/late 1st. Just a fact.
I will happily offer a couple late firsts this year for Kupp. In that league I have that ammo they are trying to find a replacement owner so can’t offer at this time. Will update
 
If you moved the 1.11, what type of running back would you expect in return?
1QB, 12 team ppr
Why not just draft a RB at 11? It’s a deep class - might be a value there.

Maybe package 1.11 & 2.x (or a player) to move up?

If the trade route, I’d wait until you’re on the clock and offer the pick up for a RB. You’re best value will be when someone sees a player on the board like :wub:
I guess i should have been more to the point. I was offered Dillion and Palmer for the pick. Palmer doesn’t do much for me so I’m not really using him for value check. of course we all know what the Packers did with Jones, limiting Dillion’s value. The Rodgers situation cloudy the value more.
 
Value and feelings on M Pittman. 1QB FFPC league.

I have been offered the 1.10 and next years 3rd. It feels like the value is fair, but I’m not really wanting to pull the trigger. My team was good enough to win and the 1.01 and I have 1.04 as well. Not sure that I LOVE the prospects around the 1.10.
 
Value and feelings on M Pittman. 1QB FFPC league.

I have been offered the 1.10 and next years 3rd. It feels like the value is fair, but I’m not really wanting to pull the trigger. My team was good enough to win and the 1.01 and I have 1.04 as well. Not sure that I LOVE the prospects around the 1.10.
That’s a super tough call in a 1-QB league.

I agree the value is right. I would rather deal Pittman for a player though.

I had him in both of my dynasty leagues.
League 1, 12 team SF, start 10, PPR, no D/ST, no K. I dealt Pittman + Fuller for ETN. This was before ETN came back to practice, so I believe I’ve profited there.

League 2, 16 team SF, IDP, PPR, TE-P. Dealt Pittman for Kwitty Paye, Mooney, and a 2023 5.06 - jury’s out until Mooney comes back

In your format, if you need a RB or TE, or if you could package Pittman with a player to get a tier higher at WR, that’s the direction I’d pursue.
 
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With the Monty news, where does K Herbert sit value wise? In particular, where do you rank him against the vet WRs? I have Herbert in all 3 of my dynasty leagues (cha-ching!) #noJinx and in one league in particular, I'm loaded at RB but need a WR, so am interested to hear what kind of WRs you think would be fair value.
 
With the Monty news, where does K Herbert sit value wise? In particular, where do you rank him against the vet WRs? I have Herbert in all 3 of my dynasty leagues (cha-ching!) #noJinx and in one league in particular, I'm loaded at RB but need a WR, so am interested to hear what kind of WRs you think would be fair value.
As someone who has him in three leagues, what would it take for you to consider trading him? As a Bears fan, I think he will be great if he gets the lead job alongside a rookie or FA.
 
With the Monty news, where does K Herbert sit value wise? In particular, where do you rank him against the vet WRs? I have Herbert in all 3 of my dynasty leagues (cha-ching!) #noJinx and in one league in particular, I'm loaded at RB but need a WR, so am interested to hear what kind of WRs you think would be fair value.
Most (smart) owners are going to wait out the draft - and rest of free agency - before making a solid offer for Herbert. I think you’d only be able to get an older riskier WR like Hopkins maybe.
 
With the Monty news, where does K Herbert sit value wise? In particular, where do you rank him against the vet WRs? I have Herbert in all 3 of my dynasty leagues (cha-ching!) #noJinx and in one league in particular, I'm loaded at RB but need a WR, so am interested to hear what kind of WRs you think would be fair value.
Most (smart) owners are going to wait out the draft - and rest of free agency - before making a solid offer for Herbert. I think you’d only be able to get an older riskier WR like Hopkins maybe.

Agreed...if you own him you want to ride this out because he could end up being really valuable...but on the flipside he could lose a ton of value if they add something legit so I can't see making a legit offer for him...right now he is stuck in neutral until the smoke clears.
 
I would think they bring someone else in, most likely in the draft. One of their 4th rounders most likely.

Herbert would be the main guy you'd have thought, regardless of who that rookie is. (unless they do something incredibly stupid like draft Robinson)
I don't believe Herbert is good enough to be the starter. Sure, he came in and gave some good minutes this season, but he wasn't effective at pass blocking nor at catching the ball out of the backfield. I suspect a 3rd or 4th rounder will be used on a guy like Charbonnet or someone in that tier of good, likely not great all-around backs.
 
I would think they bring someone else in, most likely in the draft. One of their 4th rounders most likely.

Herbert would be the main guy you'd have thought, regardless of who that rookie is. (unless they do something incredibly stupid like draft Robinson)
I don't believe Herbert is good enough to be the starter. Sure, he came in and gave some good minutes this season, but he wasn't effective at pass blocking nor at catching the ball out of the backfield. I suspect a 3rd or 4th rounder will be used on a guy like Charbonnet or someone in that tier of good, likely not great all-around backs.
I disagree. Herbert looks like the definition of a starting RB in the NFL.
 
I would think they bring someone else in, most likely in the draft. One of their 4th rounders most likely.

Herbert would be the main guy you'd have thought, regardless of who that rookie is. (unless they do something incredibly stupid like draft Robinson)
I don't believe Herbert is good enough to be the starter. Sure, he came in and gave some good minutes this season, but he wasn't effective at pass blocking nor at catching the ball out of the backfield. I suspect a 3rd or 4th rounder will be used on a guy like Charbonnet or someone in that tier of good, likely not great all-around backs.
What is the definition of a starting RB for you? He was exactly that when given the opportunity in the past 2 seasons.

As far as getting another RB, of course they will, they have to at this point. The depth gets thin if he goes down.
 
I would think they bring someone else in, most likely in the draft. One of their 4th rounders most likely.

Herbert would be the main guy you'd have thought, regardless of who that rookie is. (unless they do something incredibly stupid like draft Robinson)
I don't believe Herbert is good enough to be the starter. Sure, he came in and gave some good minutes this season, but he wasn't effective at pass blocking nor at catching the ball out of the backfield. I suspect a 3rd or 4th rounder will be used on a guy like Charbonnet or someone in that tier of good, likely not great all-around backs.
What is the definition of a starting RB for you? He was exactly that when given the opportunity in the past 2 seasons.

As far as getting another RB, of course they will, they have to at this point. The depth gets thin if he goes down.
He lacks the ability to run inside. Most of his productive running was toward the outer edge. His receiving skills leave a lot to be desired. His pass blocking was bad. Really bad.

There's a reason he never supplanted Monty.

Edit to answer your question: A good starting RB need to be able to PASS block, catch balls out of the backfield and be able to produce yardage both inside and out.
 
I would think they bring someone else in, most likely in the draft. One of their 4th rounders most likely.

Herbert would be the main guy you'd have thought, regardless of who that rookie is. (unless they do something incredibly stupid like draft Robinson)
I don't believe Herbert is good enough to be the starter. Sure, he came in and gave some good minutes this season, but he wasn't effective at pass blocking nor at catching the ball out of the backfield. I suspect a 3rd or 4th rounder will be used on a guy like Charbonnet or someone in that tier of good, likely not great all-around backs.
What is the definition of a starting RB for you? He was exactly that when given the opportunity in the past 2 seasons.

As far as getting another RB, of course they will, they have to at this point. The depth gets thin if he goes down.
He lacks the ability to run inside. Most of his productive running was toward the outer edge. His receiving skills leave a lot to be desired. His pass blocking was bad. Really bad.

There's a reason he never supplanted Monty.

Edit to answer your question: A good starting RB need to be able to PASS block, catch balls out of the backfield and be able to produce yardage both inside and out.
Educate me on the bolded, because I never looked at him and thought that.
 
I would think they bring someone else in, most likely in the draft. One of their 4th rounders most likely.

Herbert would be the main guy you'd have thought, regardless of who that rookie is. (unless they do something incredibly stupid like draft Robinson)
I don't believe Herbert is good enough to be the starter. Sure, he came in and gave some good minutes this season, but he wasn't effective at pass blocking nor at catching the ball out of the backfield. I suspect a 3rd or 4th rounder will be used on a guy like Charbonnet or someone in that tier of good, likely not great all-around backs.
What is the definition of a starting RB for you? He was exactly that when given the opportunity in the past 2 seasons.

As far as getting another RB, of course they will, they have to at this point. The depth gets thin if he goes down.
He lacks the ability to run inside. Most of his productive running was toward the outer edge. His receiving skills leave a lot to be desired. His pass blocking was bad. Really bad.

There's a reason he never supplanted Monty.

Edit to answer your question: A good starting RB need to be able to PASS block, catch balls out of the backfield and be able to produce yardage both inside and out.
Educate me on the bolded, because I never looked at him and thought that.
Watch the tape. His go to is to bounce runs outside (even when there is something of a seam), which is great for a change of pace back. I expect that will get swallowed up if it's a trend while he's a starter. It appears Poles is planning to feature Herbert in '23. I just don't think he has the ability to post starting RB numbers consistently over the course of the season.
 

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