Dynasty Value Discussion Thread (16 Viewers)

[Helaire-ious]

What does FBG think of trading CMC for the 1.05 & Zay Flowers? I own CMC. I would draft Kaleb Johnson

Smash accept, either on their own would be fair maybe debatable (Flowers maybe worth less, 1.05 definitely worth more), both is a massive overpay

I did it. Now I am not sure if I should take Kaleb or trade down. Outside of Derrick Henry, I have no RBs and no trade partners as of now. Pretty good at WR (NON_PPR) With Lamb, Pickens, Pittman, Olave, Flowers, McConkey, etc

If non-ppr I'd consider trading up using one of those other WR's or another piece, IMO I'd be waiting until you are on the clock to trade down. Hunter & Tet went at 4&5 in my non-ppr league so there's a chance you could see that too.

I am on the clock as I type this with the 1.05. Still not sure who to take LOL. Tet is available, but I am RB starved so originally figured I'd take Kaleb, but now not sure.

No suitors for a trade down as of now. The 1.06 guy definitely isn't interested

Kaleb is the play here if you can't trade down.

I like Kaleb quite a bit. If you trade down. Who’s your target?

I ended up taking Kaleb because I had no offers. Wish I had some because the next 3 picks were WRs

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

What does FBG think of trading CMC for the 1.05 & Zay Flowers? I own CMC. I would draft Kaleb Johnson

Smash accept, either on their own would be fair maybe debatable (Flowers maybe worth less, 1.05 definitely worth more), both is a massive overpay

I did it. Now I am not sure if I should take Kaleb or trade down. Outside of Derrick Henry, I have no RBs and no trade partners as of now. Pretty good at WR (NON_PPR) With Lamb, Pickens, Pittman, Olave, Flowers, McConkey, etc

If non-ppr I'd consider trading up using one of those other WR's or another piece, IMO I'd be waiting until you are on the clock to trade down. Hunter & Tet went at 4&5 in my non-ppr league so there's a chance you could see that too.

I am on the clock as I type this with the 1.05. Still not sure who to take LOL. Tet is available, but I am RB starved so originally figured I'd take Kaleb, but now not sure.

No suitors for a trade down as of now. The 1.06 guy definitely isn't interested

Kaleb is the play here if you can't trade down.

I like Kaleb quite a bit. If you trade down. Who’s your target?

Yeah, good question. My initial thought was to trade down into the 1.10-1.12 range and grab Harvey or Judkins, although we have no idea who went 4th (assuming Jeanty and Hampton at 1.01 and 1.02). Judkins' legal woes has definitely depressed his value into that range. If superflex, I probably would have considered Ward in the same range.

 

[Helaire-ious]

What does FBG think of trading CMC for the 1.05 & Zay Flowers? I own CMC. I would draft Kaleb Johnson

Smash accept, either on their own would be fair maybe debatable (Flowers maybe worth less, 1.05 definitely worth more), both is a massive overpay

I did it. Now I am not sure if I should take Kaleb or trade down. Outside of Derrick Henry, I have no RBs and no trade partners as of now. Pretty good at WR (NON_PPR) With Lamb, Pickens, Pittman, Olave, Flowers, McConkey, etc

If non-ppr I'd consider trading up using one of those other WR's or another piece, IMO I'd be waiting until you are on the clock to trade down. Hunter & Tet went at 4&5 in my non-ppr league so there's a chance you could see that too.

I am on the clock as I type this with the 1.05. Still not sure who to take LOL. Tet is available, but I am RB starved so originally figured I'd take Kaleb, but now not sure.

No suitors for a trade down as of now. The 1.06 guy definitely isn't interested

Kaleb is the play here if you can't trade down.

I like Kaleb quite a bit. If you trade down. Who’s your target?

Yeah, good question. My initial thought was to trade down into the 1.10-1.12 range and grab Harvey or Judkins, although we have no idea who went 4th (assuming Jeanty and Hampton at 1.01 and 1.02). Judkins' legal woes has definitely depressed his value into that range. If superflex, I probably would have considered Ward in the same range.

Henderson went 4th behind Hunter.
1.06 McMillan
1.07 Golden
1.08 Egbuka
1.09 Harvey
1.10 Judkins

Not Superflex. I wouldn't mind trading for a high 2nd rounder or late 1st to grab Warren

 

[Saint]

12-team Superflex PPR (1st rd)

1.01 Jeanty
1.02 Hampton
1.03 McMillan
1.04 Johnson
1.05 Ward
1.06 Henderson
1.07 Egbuka
1.08 Hunter
1.09 Harvey
1.10 Skattebo
1.11 Loveland
1.12 Judkins

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Chat, how worried are we about Kaleb listed as 3rd amid reports he’s struggling with pass pro?

 

[titusbramble]

12-team Superflex PPR (1st rd)

1.01 Jeanty
1.02 Hampton
1.03 McMillan
1.04 Johnson
1.05 Ward
1.06 Henderson
1.07 Egbuka
1.08 Hunter
1.09 Harvey
1.10 Skattebo
1.11 Loveland
1.12 Judkins

That seems early for Skattebo

 

[King of the Jungle]

12-team Superflex PPR (1st rd)

1.01 Jeanty
1.02 Hampton
1.03 McMillan
1.04 Johnson
1.05 Ward
1.06 Henderson
1.07 Egbuka
1.08 Hunter
1.09 Harvey
1.10 Skattebo
1.11 Loveland
1.12 Judkins

Johnson at four seems eye-popping to me.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

12-team Superflex PPR (1st rd)

1.01 Jeanty
1.02 Hampton
1.03 McMillan
1.04 Johnson
1.05 Ward
1.06 Henderson
1.07 Egbuka
1.08 Hunter
1.09 Harvey
1.10 Skattebo
1.11 Loveland
1.12 Judkins

Johnson at four seems eye-popping to me.

Agreed. I like him as a prospect and I like his landing spot a lot, but I’d take everyone above him except Judkins over him at this point.

I say this having drafted Johnson 7.10 in a 12 team startup. ETA: just checked and every one of them went before Johnson except for Judkins who fell to the 9th.

 

[heckmanm]

Anyone turning down Rice and 2 firsts to go from Chase to JJ is insane though.

Wait, no - it was Rice + 2x 1sts for Chase.

JJ uninvolved.

I have Chase, and someone asked what it would take in addition to Mayfield and Shakir. I told him 2 firsts and I'd start to think about it, but IDK. It's superflex so Baker has some value, but neither of those guys really moves the needle for me.

His next 2 firsts will likely be quite late.

 

[smbkrypt24]

Anyone turning down Rice and 2 firsts to go from Chase to JJ is insane though.

Wait, no - it was Rice + 2x 1sts for Chase.

JJ uninvolved.

I have Chase, and someone asked what it would take in addition to Mayfield and Shakir. I told him 2 firsts and I'd start to think about it, but IDK. It's superflex so Baker has some value, but neither of those guys really moves the needle for me.

His next 2 firsts will likely be quite late.

If someone started with those two players that would be offputting to me. It is so far off from fair value. SF does increase Mayfield's value a lot though. I may still say more than 2 1sts.

 

[heckmanm]

Anyone turning down Rice and 2 firsts to go from Chase to JJ is insane though.

Wait, no - it was Rice + 2x 1sts for Chase.

JJ uninvolved.

I have Chase, and someone asked what it would take in addition to Mayfield and Shakir. I told him 2 firsts and I'd start to think about it, but IDK. It's superflex so Baker has some value, but neither of those guys really moves the needle for me.

His next 2 firsts will likely be quite late.

If someone started with those two players that would be offputting to me. It is so far off from fair value. SF does increase Mayfield's value a lot though. I may still say more than 2 1sts.

Yeah those are like his #3-4 QB and WR. Had he started with Bo Nix and Chris Olave (his #2 at each position) I'd be more inclined to listen.

 

[smbkrypt24]

Anyone turning down Rice and 2 firsts to go from Chase to JJ is insane though.

Wait, no - it was Rice + 2x 1sts for Chase.

JJ uninvolved.

I have Chase, and someone asked what it would take in addition to Mayfield and Shakir. I told him 2 firsts and I'd start to think about it, but IDK. It's superflex so Baker has some value, but neither of those guys really moves the needle for me.

His next 2 firsts will likely be quite late.

If someone started with those two players that would be offputting to me. It is so far off from fair value. SF does increase Mayfield's value a lot though. I may still say more than 2 1sts.

Yeah those are like his #3-4 QB and WR. Had he started with Bo Nix and Chris Olave (his #2 at each position) I'd be more inclined to listen.

That would be exactly my point. He threw end of his roster options at you and then asked you to fill the gap with what works. Just rubs me the wrong way- now if he put 2 or 3 firsts on top of those players I could quickly get over that. But I have a feeling he wanted you to choose his RB 3 or 4, TE2, on top of Mayfield and Shakir.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Anyone turning down Rice and 2 firsts to go from Chase to JJ is insane though.

Wait, no - it was Rice + 2x 1sts for Chase.

JJ uninvolved.

I have Chase, and someone asked what it would take in addition to Mayfield and Shakir. I told him 2 firsts and I'd start to think about it, but IDK. It's superflex so Baker has some value, but neither of those guys really moves the needle for me.

His next 2 firsts will likely be quite late.

not enough

 

[heckmanm]

Anyone turning down Rice and 2 firsts to go from Chase to JJ is insane though.

Wait, no - it was Rice + 2x 1sts for Chase.

JJ uninvolved.

I have Chase, and someone asked what it would take in addition to Mayfield and Shakir. I told him 2 firsts and I'd start to think about it, but IDK. It's superflex so Baker has some value, but neither of those guys really moves the needle for me.

His next 2 firsts will likely be quite late.

not enough

Yeah, I said with 2 firsts I'd "start to think about it" but I also mentioned I still may not do it. And probably wouldn't for those 2 guys.

Essentially, if you want Chase, it needs to be a Godfather offer.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Anyone turning down Rice and 2 firsts to go from Chase to JJ is insane though.

Wait, no - it was Rice + 2x 1sts for Chase.

JJ uninvolved.

I have Chase, and someone asked what it would take in addition to Mayfield and Shakir. I told him 2 firsts and I'd start to think about it, but IDK. It's superflex so Baker has some value, but neither of those guys really moves the needle for me.

His next 2 firsts will likely be quite late.

If this is SuperFlex it’s getting warm, but I’d need a better WR+the 2 firsts+mayfield.

People need to overpay for Chase. Especially if it’s a 3:1 or 4:1 offer. You’re the one diluting your prized assert.

 

[heckmanm]

Anyone turning down Rice and 2 firsts to go from Chase to JJ is insane though.

Wait, no - it was Rice + 2x 1sts for Chase.

JJ uninvolved.

I have Chase, and someone asked what it would take in addition to Mayfield and Shakir. I told him 2 firsts and I'd start to think about it, but IDK. It's superflex so Baker has some value, but neither of those guys really moves the needle for me.

His next 2 firsts will likely be quite late.

If this is SuoerFlex it’s getting warm, but I’d need a better WR+the 2 firsts+mayfield.

People need to overpay for Chase. Especially if it’s a 3:1 or 4:1 offer. You’re the one diluting your prized assert.

Bill Simmons once said something like, "Don't trade a dollar for 4 quarters"

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Bill Simmons once said something like, "Don't trade a dollar for 4 quarters"

When I moved off Mahomes in a SF league where the other owner kept sending me “fair” offers, I finally turned it around and sent him an offer of Nico Collins, Justin Herbert, Noah Fant, a 2026 1st & 2nd for Mahomes + Doubs + Jamin Davis.

It’s TEP, but Fant was just a toss-in.

Anyway, I didn’t expect them to accept. They did & I went to the LCG. Herbert & Mahomes were not a Nico Collins and a 1st apart. But that’s what I needed to move off of him.

Worth noting that was right when Harbaugh/Roman took over and all the breathless hyperbole was about how they’d only throw for 7 yards a game.

So yeah - if you’re selling a premium asset, ask for the world. Chase is coming off an insane season.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

Is Dak and 2027 1st (currently have 2 others) for Mahomes good vale?

Daniels is my other QB

 

[joey]

Is Dak and 2027 1st (currently have 2 others) for Mahomes good vale?

Daniels is my other QB

Superflex?

If not and you’re only starting Daniels, I might just keep Dak and my 2027 1st.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

Is Dak and 2027 1st (currently have 2 others) for Mahomes good vale?

Daniels is my other QB

Superflex?

If not and you’re only starting Daniels, I might just keep Dak and my 2027 1st.

No Superflex. Start 1 qb. I have Daniels and would be trading Mahomes for Dak and 1st.

 

[heckmanm]

Is Dak and 2027 1st (currently have 2 others) for Mahomes good vale?

Daniels is my other QB

Superflex?

If not and you’re only starting Daniels, I might just keep Dak and my 2027 1st.

No Superflex. Start 1 qb. I have Daniels and would be trading Mahomes for Dak and 1st.

I'd make that deal in a heartbeat. And for reference, KTC has it heavily in your favor

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Is Dak and 2027 1st (currently have 2 others) for Mahomes good vale?

Daniels is my other QB

Superflex?

If not and you’re only starting Daniels, I might just keep Dak and my 2027 1st.

No Superflex. Start 1 qb. I have Daniels and would be trading Mahomes for Dak and 1st.

I'd make that deal in a heartbeat. And for reference, KTC has it heavily in your favor

Oh, sorry - you’re selling Mahomes for Dak + a 1st?

Smash.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Is Dak and 2027 1st (currently have 2 others) for Mahomes good vale?

Daniels is my other QB

Superflex?

If not and you’re only starting Daniels, I might just keep Dak and my 2027 1st.

No Superflex. Start 1 qb. I have Daniels and would be trading Mahomes for Dak and 1st.

I'd make that deal in a heartbeat. And for reference, KTC has it heavily in your favor

Agree. I think Dak has a chance to outscore Mahomes this year.

 

[smbkrypt24]

Is Dak and 2027 1st (currently have 2 others) for Mahomes good vale?

Daniels is my other QB

Superflex?

If not and you’re only starting Daniels, I might just keep Dak and my 2027 1st.

No Superflex. Start 1 qb. I have Daniels and would be trading Mahomes for Dak and 1st.

Take Dak and 2027 1st. Mahommes has been solid and I would guess continue to be, but I prefer 2027 1st and start Daniels.

 

[heckmanm]

Is Dak and 2027 1st (currently have 2 others) for Mahomes good vale?

Daniels is my other QB

Superflex?

If not and you’re only starting Daniels, I might just keep Dak and my 2027 1st.

No Superflex. Start 1 qb. I have Daniels and would be trading Mahomes for Dak and 1st.

I'd make that deal in a heartbeat. And for reference, KTC has it heavily in your favor

Oh, sorry - you’re selling Mahomes for DK + a 1st?

Smash.

I almost replied with "try not to sprain your finger smashing the 'accept' button"

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Agree. I think Dak has a chance to outscore Mahomes this year.

Agree - I said as much in the now deleted post (where I thought he was giving up Dak 1st)

 

[(HULK)]

12 team PPR TEP++

How we feeling about Mark Andrews for a 2026 2nd+4th, or 2026 2nd+TeSlaa?

I don’t normally like to buy 29 (soon to be 30) y/o TE in the last year of a contract, but I have Likely & Kolar.

At this point today, which Balt TE will get a new contact?
Soon to be 30 yo Mark Andrews Or 25 yo Isiah Likely (who will cost much less to retain)

I am not feeling the love for Mark Andrews myself... the whole Balt Passing offense with Hopkins, Flowers are primary targets and Henry taking 90% of the carries... not much to feed TEs
I'd rather keep the picks
YES, he is worth the offer... but I don't want part of it

FYI - I turned down Mark Andrews + 3.10 for my 2.04 this week (TE required but not TE+)

Back in May I sent Andrews and 3.11 for 2.03 and a early 2026 4th so I could draft a falling Matthew Golden.

A little stale but while I think Andrews is worth a late first, the market won't pay that for him.

 

[joey]

Is Dak and 2027 1st (currently have 2 others) for Mahomes good vale?

Daniels is my other QB

Superflex?

If not and you’re only starting Daniels, I might just keep Dak and my 2027 1st.

No Superflex. Start 1 qb. I have Daniels and would be trading Mahomes for Dak and 1st.

I agree with all the recent replies. I'd ABSOLUTELY accept Dak + a 1st for Mahommes. DO IT!

 

[BearsFan4Life]

Is Dak and 2027 1st (currently have 2 others) for Mahomes good vale?

Daniels is my other QB

Superflex?

If not and you’re only starting Daniels, I might just keep Dak and my 2027 1st.

No Superflex. Start 1 qb. I have Daniels and would be trading Mahomes for Dak and 1st.

I agree with all the recent replies. I'd ABSOLUTELY accept Dak + a 1st for Mahommes. DO IT!

Deal done..got Dak, 26 2nd, 27 1st for Mahomes and 27 3rd

 

[swabs]

Trading a 1st for a QB in non- superflex is crazy. Maybe for Allen or Lamar but that's it.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Trading a 1st for a QB in non- superflex is crazy. Maybe for Allen or Lamar but that's it.

I would say Burrow/Daniels are also worth a first.

 

[Buckna]

Trading a 1st for a QB in non- superflex is crazy. Maybe for Allen or Lamar but that's it.

I would say Burrow/Daniels are also worth a first.

If it was the Mahomes of old he'd be worth it but he hasn't been that fantasy stud for 2 seasons now. If I had a rock solid team and wanted to gamble on Mahomes coming back to fantasy stardom I could see it, but there are cheaper gambles to make in 1QB.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Trading a 1st for a QB in non- superflex is crazy. Maybe for Allen or Lamar but that's it.

I would say Burrow/Daniels are also worth a first.

If it was the Mahomes of old he'd be worth it but he hasn't been that fantasy stud for 2 seasons now. If I had a rock solid team and wanted to gamble on Mahomes coming back to fantasy stardom I could see it, but there are cheaper gambles to make in 1QB.

We use 6 pt TDs, maybe that is the difference. I have never liked not having a clear cut starter at QB. I would easily pay a first for Allen/Lamar/Daniels/Burrow. I find the advantage of consistency along with the upside of blow-up weeks a big advantage over streaming secondary starters (which I have never had good luck with). I hold Burrow and half the games he scored over 40 pts in my league, one over 60. Creates a big advantage in my league.

 

[Blick]

Trading a 1st for a QB in non- superflex is crazy. Maybe for Allen or Lamar but that's it.

I would say Burrow/Daniels are also worth a first.

I agree with this line of thinking in 1 QB leagues. However, I'm in 2 - 1QB leagues with pretty standard scoring and the owners value QBs much higher. It's impossible to get a good QB for less than a 1st. I refuse to do it and end up with a cast of players like Stroud, Young, Darnold, etc.

 

[Buckna]

Trading a 1st for a QB in non- superflex is crazy. Maybe for Allen or Lamar but that's it.

I would say Burrow/Daniels are also worth a first.

If it was the Mahomes of old he'd be worth it but he hasn't been that fantasy stud for 2 seasons now. If I had a rock solid team and wanted to gamble on Mahomes coming back to fantasy stardom I could see it, but there are cheaper gambles to make in 1QB.

We use 6 pt TDs, maybe that is the difference. I have never liked not having a clear cut starter at QB. I would easily pay a first for Allen/Lamar/Daniels/Burrow. I find the advantage of consistency along with the upside of blow-up weeks a big advantage over streaming secondary starters (which I have never had good luck with). I hold Burrow and half the games he scored over 40 pts in my league, one over 60. Creates a big advantage in my league.

Oh I agree, I am a QB minimalist in 1QB but even I think the Uber stud QB'S are worth a 1st. I've got Josh Allen in two of my 1QB leagues and you'd have to massively overpay to get me to give him up.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Trading a 1st for a QB in non- superflex is crazy. Maybe for Allen or Lamar but that's it.

I would say Burrow/Daniels are also worth a first.

If it was the Mahomes of old he'd be worth it but he hasn't been that fantasy stud for 2 seasons now. If I had a rock solid team and wanted to gamble on Mahomes coming back to fantasy stardom I could see it, but there are cheaper gambles to make in 1QB.

We use 6 pt TDs, maybe that is the difference. I have never liked not having a clear cut starter at QB. I would easily pay a first for Allen/Lamar/Daniels/Burrow. I find the advantage of consistency along with the upside of blow-up weeks a big advantage over streaming secondary starters (which I have never had good luck with). I hold Burrow and half the games he scored over 40 pts in my league, one over 60. Creates a big advantage in my league.

I agree in principle, but I couldn't help but notice you didn't list Mahomes or Dak or Herbert or Hurts here.

Which kind of points to the underlying issue. These guys have to be SO good to actually provide that advantage that they rarely repeat it, and the guys that are actually providing that advantage rotate in and out every couple of years.

2-3 years ago those guys above were the ones scoring the big points and guys like LJax and Burrow were kind of forgotten. Two years from now (likely much sooner) the guys in your list may very well end up the same and it will be someone else actually providing that advantage, probably Mahomes and Hurts again.

They just have to score SO many points to actually provide an advantage in 1qb that there is so little margin for error. We saw this all through the Brady/Peyton/Rodgers/Brees era. For a year or two Peyton and Brees would light it up and we'd forget about Brady and Rodgers. Then a few years later Brady would have a huge year and Peyton would have a few boring 4000/28 seasons and his value would plummet.

Josh Allen is really the only one that's consistently provided that advantage the last 3-4 years, though I worry that could drop off sharply as he nears 30 as a running QB with a violent running style that takes big hits. Mahomes had 3-4 elite years recently and then hit those margins and now is boring and middling for fantasy purposes.

With the way these guys rotate in and out almost predictably I actually like swapping between them and getting value back on top. Who will score more over the next 3 years between Mahomes and Allen? I would say it's 50/50 so I'd rather get out ahead of that typical rotation and take the value on top of Allen to rotate back into Mahomes shares while he's cheap, before he rejoins that group at the top again as Brees/Brady/Peyton/Rodgers rotated in and out of so many times during their careers.

Burrow seems like an obvious sell to me. Without rushing his margins are just so tiny. He runs way less than all the other guys (even the other pocket passers like Mahomes) so he has to throw for 5000 yards and 40+ TDs to be in that group, which just takes everything breaking perfectly on any given season. It took everything breaking absolutely perfectly for him to finish QB3 in what will probably be his career best season last year.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

Interesting one and curious the side you like:

JSN and Tyreek
or
London

 

[King of the Jungle]

Trading a 1st for a QB in non- superflex is crazy. Maybe for Allen or Lamar but that's it.

I would say Burrow/Daniels are also worth a first.

If it was the Mahomes of old he'd be worth it but he hasn't been that fantasy stud for 2 seasons now. If I had a rock solid team and wanted to gamble on Mahomes coming back to fantasy stardom I could see it, but there are cheaper gambles to make in 1QB.

We use 6 pt TDs, maybe that is the difference. I have never liked not having a clear cut starter at QB. I would easily pay a first for Allen/Lamar/Daniels/Burrow. I find the advantage of consistency along with the upside of blow-up weeks a big advantage over streaming secondary starters (which I have never had good luck with). I hold Burrow and half the games he scored over 40 pts in my league, one over 60. Creates a big advantage in my league.

I agree in principle, but I couldn't help but notice you didn't list Mahomes or Dak or Herbert or Hurts here.

Which kind of points to the underlying issue. These guys have to be SO good to actually provide that advantage that they rarely repeat it, and the guys that are actually providing that advantage rotate in and out every couple of years.

2-3 years ago those guys above were the ones scoring the big points and guys like LJax and Burrow were kind of forgotten. Two years from now (likely much sooner) the guys in your list may very well end up the same and it will be someone else actually providing that advantage, probably Mahomes and Hurts again.

They just have to score SO many points to actually provide an advantage in 1qb that there is so little margin for error. We saw this all through the Brady/Peyton/Rodgers/Brees era. For a year or two Peyton and Brees would light it up and we'd forget about Brady and Rodgers. Then a few years later Brady would have a huge year and Peyton would have a few boring 4000/28 seasons and his value would plummet.

Josh Allen is really the only one that's consistently provided that advantage the last 3-4 years, though I worry that could drop off sharply as he nears 30 as a running QB with a violent running style that takes big hits. Mahomes had 3-4 elite years recently and then hit those margins and now is boring and middling for fantasy purposes.

With the way these guys rotate in and out almost predictably I actually like swapping between them and getting value back on top. Who will score more over the next 3 years between Mahomes and Allen? I would say it's 50/50 so I'd rather get out ahead of that typical rotation and take the value on top of Allen to rotate back into Mahomes shares while he's cheap, before he rejoins that group at the top again as Brees/Brady/Peyton/Rodgers rotated in and out of so many times during their careers.

Burrow seems like an obvious sell to me. Without rushing his margins are just so tiny. He runs way less than all the other guys (even the other pocket passers like Mahomes) so he has to throw for 5000 yards and 40+ TDs to be in that group, which just takes everything breaking perfectly on any given season. It took everything breaking absolutely perfectly for him to finish QB3 in what will probably be his career best season last year.

Since Burrow entered the NFL he has averaged 270 yards and 2 touchdowns per game. Not sure how the others add up, but I value the consistency of his output and the spike weeks he provides. Although rushing is not is thing, he has 12 rushing TDs in 70 games which is not nothing. He is tied to the best receiver in the game and arguably the best WR2 in the game. Maybe you can roll the dice to grab value and make it work, but to me the only way Burrow does not continue to perform is injury (or injury to other key players who have impact - which is a risk tied to all players). I understand most downgrade the position in 1QB, but I sleep better with a consistent option that also has boom weeks.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Interesting one and curious the side you like:

JSN and Tyreek
or
London

London and I wouldn’t hesitate.

 

[Helaire-ious]

Interesting one and curious the side you like:

JSN and Tyreek
or
London

Contender? Hill & JSN

 

[smbkrypt24]

Interesting one and curious the side you like:

JSN and Tyreek
or
London

Jsn and tyreek

 

[Birdie048]

Interesting one and curious the side you like:

JSN and Tyreek
or
London

While I like London, I see JSN as close enuf that Cheetah more than makes up for the slight gap.
Give me JSN & Tyreek here

 

[Ilov80s]

For teams looking to press on the pedal into win this year mode or conversely, teams ready to tear their team down: What RBs would you consider worth a likely late 1st round pick?

 

[joey]

For teams looking to press on the pedal into win this year mode or conversely, teams ready to tear their team down: What RBs would you consider worth a likely late 1st round pick?

I like this question since I have a couple of 2026 1sts and I wouldn’t mind turning one of them into a starting RB to win now. (I’ve been mediocre in this league for too long and wasting the years with CD Lamb on my roster).

What kind of vet /starting/ would you give up for a 20261st?

 

[Raging weasel]

Might be able to get Henry for that. He went for 2 2nds in one of my FFPC leagues.
Could probably get Montgomery,Chubba, Robinson (Wash),Tracy or Pachecho.

 

[Ilov80s]

For teams looking to press on the pedal into win this year mode or conversely, teams ready to tear their team down: What RBs would you consider worth a likely late 1st round pick?

I like this question since I have a couple of 2026 1sts and I wouldn’t mind turning one of them into a starting RB to win now. (I’ve been mediocre in this league for too long and wasting the years with CD Lamb on my roster).

What kind of vet /starting/ would you give up for a 20261st?

Well that's what I am wondering. From your POV, what RBs would you click accept on for your 2026 1st? There are a bunch of players that go with out saying their price is way more than a 1st. Nobody is giving up Jahmyr Gibbs for just a 2026 1st. Where do you see it become reasonable? I think Josh Jacobs, Derrick Henry and CMC make a lot of sense if they are on bad teams who might feel like they need to rebuild now. Would that be enough to get them though? Maybe James Cook or Kamara?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

For teams looking to press on the pedal into win this year mode or conversely, teams ready to tear their team down: What RBs would you consider worth a likely late 1st round pick?

Jacobs would be my number 1 target. His production should easily justify the 1st, and you should get 2-3 years out of him. Focal point of the offense, a coach that will run him 4x at the stripe, and not a zero in the passing game.

Number 2 for me would be Chuba. He could probably be had for around a 1st. Uncontested RB1 on his team, a bit underrated.

If the teams with those guys aren’t competing I’d be offering them future 1sts for them easily.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Montgomery, Robinson

I don’t see these two as worthy of a 1st. You could likely get Monty for less. Not sure what Brob fetches, but a 1st feels a bit rich.

Pacheco is a good one though.

 

[Ilov80s]

Montgomery, Robinson

I don’t see these two as worthy of a 1st. You could likely get Monty for less. Not sure what Brob fetches, but a 1st feels a bit rich.

Pacheco is a good one though.

Yeah I have Montgomery already and am trying to win now but if I got offered a 1st for him, I would accept it for sure.

 

[Ilov80s]

For teams looking to press on the pedal into win this year mode or conversely, teams ready to tear their team down: What RBs would you consider worth a likely late 1st round pick?

Jacobs would be my number 1 target. His production should easily justify the 1st, and you should get 2-3 years out of him. Focal point of the offense, a coach that will run him 4x at the stripe, and not a zero in the passing game.

Number 2 for me would be Chuba. He could probably be had for around a 1st. Uncontested RB1 on his team, a bit underrated.

If the teams with those guys aren’t competing I’d be offering them future 1sts for them easily.

Is that a sign you're out on CMC or just don't think a 1st is enough?