Dynasty WR Rankings - WR#1 (1 Viewer)

[SSOG]

Where is TO? Even with Dynasty I never like to look more than 2 years in the future.

Even if you only look 2 years in the future... TO won't finish as one of the top-5 WRs over the next two years. I doubt he even finishes as one of the top 10.

If you are refering to NFL.com still listing Larry Fitz as 24 years old look at his birth date. August 31 1983. That means he turned 25 years old in August.

Why don't you check the facts before trying to call someone out for not checking out the facts?

tsk tsk BS. :(

Is there a "foot in the mouth" smiley around here somewhere?

I went with Wayne here. Although I doubt he finishes as the #1 wr next year, I think he has the lowest bust potential, and is the safest choice to be in the top 5

I agree with the "Lowest Bust" potential.Fitz has too many questions, Colston has no WR across from him to make him viable Top 5 and R Moss is due for a meltdown; S Smith might have QB problems again; I like Braylon's options too, but do it more than once to make it real.

How does having no threat across the field keep a player's value down? Colston has proven he can beat double-teams, so another target across the field just means someone stealing targets from Colston. Did Moss or Owens suffer from having no legit #2 WR? Compare Marvin Harrison's numbers without Wayne (or when Wayne was still developing) to his numbers WITH Wayne... and while you're at it, compare Wayne's numbers without Harrison to his numbers with him.Not having another target across the field is a positive, not a negative, provided the WR has demonstrated he's capable of beating primary coverages on his own (which means guys like Housh and Peerless Price who were only studs because of weaker coverage most definitely DO need a real stud across the field from them to keep them afloat).

 

[sheerterror]

Where is TO? Even with Dynasty I never like to look more than 2 years in the future.

Even if you only look 2 years in the future... TO won't finish as one of the top-5 WRs over the next two years. I doubt he even finishes as one of the top 10.

If you are refering to NFL.com still listing Larry Fitz as 24 years old look at his birth date. August 31 1983. That means he turned 25 years old in August.

Why don't you check the facts before trying to call someone out for not checking out the facts?

tsk tsk BS.

Is there a "foot in the mouth" smiley around here somewhere?

I went with Wayne here. Although I doubt he finishes as the #1 wr next year, I think he has the lowest bust potential, and is the safest choice to be in the top 5

I agree with the "Lowest Bust" potential.Fitz has too many questions, Colston has no WR across from him to make him viable Top 5 and R Moss is due for a meltdown; S Smith might have QB problems again; I like Braylon's options too, but do it more than once to make it real.

How does having no threat across the field keep a player's value down? Colston has proven he can beat double-teams, so another target across the field just means someone stealing targets from Colston. Did Moss or Owens suffer from having no legit #2 WR? Compare Marvin Harrison's numbers without Wayne (or when Wayne was still developing) to his numbers WITH Wayne... and while you're at it, compare Wayne's numbers without Harrison to his numbers with him.Not having another target across the field is a positive, not a negative, provided the WR has demonstrated he's capable of beating primary coverages on his own (which means guys like Housh and Peerless Price who were only studs because of weaker coverage most definitely DO need a real stud across the field from them to keep them afloat).

This is certainly true, but since we are talking about a New Orleans team that throws the ball a ton (36x/game in 06 and 41 in 07, ranked 5 and 1 respectively in terms of passes per game) with a top QB at the helm, I don't think it's a stretch to assume that the Saints' offense would allow Colston to sustain, if not improve his production, even if another legit receiver is brought in to line up across from him.

 

[sheerterror]

Went with Reggie Wayne. Best situation, talent and QB combo of anybody listed, and any questions that he could perform as the WR1 in the Indy offense without Harrison drawing attention were answered this season.

Not to poop in the punch with the age factor, but Wayne will be 30 this November. For me, that makes it hard to put guys like him, Moss (31), and CJ (30) at the top of the WR list in dynasty, especially when you look at proven young guys like Fitz (24), AJ (26), and Braylon (24).

I agree to an extent, but 30 isn't particularly old for a WR...no reason to think Wayne couldn't sustain production for at least 4 more years provided he stays injury free. Of the 3 younger guys you listed, it's kind of funny you mention AJ and Edwards amongst Fitz (who, IMO is much, much more proven) when Edwards has really only produced at an elite level for 1 season and has a somewhat murky future QB situation, and AJ, who has yet to put up a real monster season (a combination of often being injured and a poor surrounding cast - although he looked like he was on his way this year.) I think Colston absolutely belongs in the discussion amongst those 3 guys, but there's too many questions surrounding all 4 of them for me to confidently make any of the them the first WR off the board in an initial dynasty draft. You know what you will get with Wayne, and as someone I believe said earlier, he may never finish the season as the top WR, but his floor seems to be top 5-6 while he certainly has the potential to finish as a top 2-3 yearly.

I like your reasoning here, though I would say that AJ and Edwards have domonstrated an ability to put up consistant WR1 numbers when healthy. And in terms of situational stability, Fitz' QB situation is far from stable, CJ is looking to be traded, and Moss is a free agent (likely to be tagged). Your probably right that Colston may have the most stability of any of the group, but I think he's going to have more competition as the receivers around him develop... And then there's Wayne, who will likely shine as long as both his QB and his body cooperate with him.Any room for Roy Williams in this discussion?

Agreed on Fitz. But I think the fact that he's been able to produce regardless of who has been throwing the ball (although I think his numbers are much better with Warner than Leinart) is, to me, a sign that the guy is an elite talent that should always be able to produce regardless of the surrounding situation. There is that looming possibility in Cleveland that Anderson may walk, so we have no idea just how effective or ineffective Quinn may be at getting the ball to Edwards. Not saying that is going to happen, but that situation is more than enough for me to like Fitzgerald quite a bit more than Edwards.If we were doing these rankings based on talent alone, Roy Williams is easily top 5 IMO. His problem has been staying healthy (I know he hasn't missed that many games, but I think he's been hobbled and ineffective in quite a few in his career so far) and the cluster#### that has been the Detroit offense. Couple that with the presence Calvin Johnson, and unless Detroit can develop or sign a top caliber QB to get them both the ball consistently, I don't know that Roy can ever reach his ceiling while playing for the Lions. At the moment, he's a low end WR1, high end WR2 in my book.

 

[Burning Sensation]

23TDs.

Randy Moss scored 5 more TDs than any player in the league last year. Not WR.. player.

Moss will be 31 years old in 4 days from now. Wayne is 9 months younger than Moss is yet some of you are getting excited about his 10TDs. Less than half of what Moss scored.

For the record Fitzgerald is 25 years old right now. He will be 26 on August 31st right around when the season starts.

Neither one of these guys will ever sniff the upside that Randy Moss has. They are ploders compared to him. The only advantage Fitz has over Moss is time. Thats not going to matter over the next 3 years.

Moss has said over and over he wants to stay with the Patriots. The Pats have said they want to keep Randy. He is going to be a Patriot and finish out his career with Brady.

You couldn't get me to trade Moss straight up for either one of these guys or anyone except maybe LT or AD. Maybe Steven Jackson. It is just too fun crushing everyone with Moss.

For the record, you should check your facts before posting, especially when you use a phrase like "for the record". http://www.nfl.com/players/larryfitzgerald...le?id=FIT437493

If you are refering to NFL.com still listing Larry Fitz as 24 years old look at his birth date. August 31 1983. That means he turned 25 years old in August.Why don't you check the facts before trying to call someone out for not checking out the facts?

tsk tsk BS.

I would pick on you further for this, but even I have been known to make mistakes, just usually not ones involving such simple math.

 

[SSOG]

If we were doing these rankings based on talent alone, Roy Williams is easily top 5 IMO. His problem has been staying healthy (I know he hasn't missed that many games, but I think he's been hobbled and ineffective in quite a few in his career so far) and the cluster#### that has been the Detroit offense. Couple that with the presence Calvin Johnson, and unless Detroit can develop or sign a top caliber QB to get them both the ball consistently, I don't know that Roy can ever reach his ceiling while playing for the Lions. At the moment, he's a low end WR1, high end WR2 in my book.

If we were doing these rankings based on physical ability, maybe Roy Williams would be in the top 5, but on talent for the WR position? No way. He's just not a natural receiver. I wouldn't even put him in my top 10.

 

[FUBAR]

23TDs.

Randy Moss scored 5 more TDs than any player in the league last year. Not WR.. player.

Moss will be 31 years old in 4 days from now. Wayne is 9 months younger than Moss is yet some of you are getting excited about his 10TDs. Less than half of what Moss scored.

For the record Fitzgerald is 25 years old right now. He will be 26 on August 31st right around when the season starts.

Neither one of these guys will ever sniff the upside that Randy Moss has. They are ploders compared to him. The only advantage Fitz has over Moss is time. Thats not going to matter over the next 3 years.

Moss has said over and over he wants to stay with the Patriots. The Pats have said they want to keep Randy. He is going to be a Patriot and finish out his career with Brady.

You couldn't get me to trade Moss straight up for either one of these guys or anyone except maybe LT or AD. Maybe Steven Jackson. It is just too fun crushing everyone with Moss.

For the record, you should check your facts before posting, especially when you use a phrase like "for the record". http://www.nfl.com/players/larryfitzgerald...le?id=FIT437493

If you are refering to NFL.com still listing Larry Fitz as 24 years old look at his birth date. August 31 1983. That means he turned 25 years old in August.Why don't you check the facts before trying to call someone out for not checking out the facts?

tsk tsk BS.

I would pick on you further for this, but even I have been known to make mistakes, just usually not ones involving such simple math.

You'll have to excuse Biabreakable. He's in a different part of the world right now. That part of the world likes to think the 2008 elections already happened.