Eagle Fans - QB Choice? (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

Hi Eagle Fans,

Fantastic game last night. What's the feeling locally and among Eagles fans regarding who should be your QB going forward?

I fans always want the latest hottest newest guy but how real is the call for a healthy McNabb to sit?

Do people think Feeley was a fluke last night? And how does Kolb fit into this?

J

 

[Joe Bryant]

And sorry - don't mean to honda the other feeley thread - just wondering more what the local take is this morning after the performance last night.

J

 

[Milwalkeysbeast]

It sounds like the general consensus is that Feeley should at least be given a chance to prove it wasn't a fluke. WHile McNabb statistically hasn't played HORRIBLE, he just seems lacking something this year. I have always defended him and was a fan of his, but this year he seems to lack grit. He plays with no passion, and seems like he doesn't want to lead the team. EVen if I am wrong about that, it seems like the team plays better as a unit with another QB rather than him.

Local radio and tv personalities have said that the rift that seemed like it started with TO really was there before he came about, he just brought it to surface quicker. Many people say that McNabb is Reid's pet and he doesn't get corrected in film review - or if he does, it is in a nice way while everyone else is criticized.

The team looks better with Feeley in my opinion. However, McNabb WILL be the starter as he is Reids' pet. I'm not saying McNabb will play horribly - and in this horrible NFC they still have a chance to make the playoffs. I'm just saying that he lacks the poise needed to lead this team to where it could be.

 

[Mcnabbfan]

Hi Eagle Fans,Fantastic game last night. What's the feeling locally and among Eagles fans regarding who should be your QB going forward?I fans always want the latest hottest newest guy but how real is the call for a healthy McNabb to sit?Do people think Feeley was a fluke last night? And how does Kolb fit into this?J

Despite being a huge McNabb fan, I think it is time for the Eagles to go in a different direction. McNabb is injury prone and is going to cost over $11 million against the cap next year. With all the injuries throughout McNabb's career, I don't think he is ever going to be 100 % healthy again. The talk for the majority of the season has been how the Eagles receivers cannot get open consistently yet Feeley found receivers all night. I don't think last night was a fluke regarding Feeley. In the past, QBs have stepped in and played well under Andy Reid's sytem. The problem with Feeley is your going to get peaks and valleys just like last night. Despite how well Feeley played, he will make stupid decisions like that late pick to Samuel in the endzone. With Feeley, you'll have to take the good with the bad but it appears the team rallies around him. As for Kolb, it is way too soon to know how he fits into this situation. This year I don't think he is an option. He is too much of an unknown.

 

[Milwalkeysbeast]

Hi Eagle Fans,Fantastic game last night. What's the feeling locally and among Eagles fans regarding who should be your QB going forward?I fans always want the latest hottest newest guy but how real is the call for a healthy McNabb to sit?Do people think Feeley was a fluke last night? And how does Kolb fit into this?J

Despite being a huge McNabb fan, I think it is time for the Eagles to go in a different direction. McNabb is injury prone and is going to cost over $11 million against the cap next year. With all the injuries throughout McNabb's career, I don't think he is ever going to be 100 % healthy again. The talk for the majority of the season has been how the Eagles receivers cannot get open consistently yet Feeley, who hasn't played all year, found receivers all night. I don't think last night was a fluke regarding Feeley. In the past, QBs have stepped in and played well under Andy Reid's sytem. The problem with Feeley is your going to get peaks and valleys just like last night. Despite how well Feeley played, he will make stupid decisions like that late pick to Samuel in the endzone. With Feeley, you'll have to take the good with the bad but it appears the team rallies around him. As for Kolb, it is way too soon to know how he fits into this situation. This year I don't think he is an option. He is too much of an unknown.

I agree, I do not want to see Kolb in this year. I feel Reid picked him in the draft to work on him over the next 2 or 3 years - seeing as he didn't play in a similar offense in college (I think, anyway). I agree McNabb should not be back next year - he still has something left in him and will make a nice addition to another team, but its time for him to exit Philadelphia - thanks for the great times McNabb (not sarcastic, I really enjoyed watching him play). His whole situation reminds me of the Lindros and/or Rolen situations in Philadelphia.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

If you look at the draft threads from April, you'll see I predicted that McNabb wouldn't be the Eagles QB in two years. It appears I might have been off by one year.

McNabb will probably play out the season, but imo, he will not be an Eagle next year.

 

[Eagle Eye]

Put me down for Feeley. The reason it looked like we had WRs open last night is because AJ will throw the ball in anticipation of the WR's cut. McNabb can't seem to do that.

 

[shadyridr]

Didnt Feeley throw 2 HUGE interceptions last night?

 

[Jaysus]

McNabb

 

[delusional]

Since preseason i been saying

Feeley > non healthy mcnabb

Blame the front office for this entire mess of a season. McNabb should not have started the season, feeley should have...then he could have came back later when healthy.

Overall considering the amount of time he does not get, I think he did well. He fits the WCO better then McNabb

 

[TommyGilmore]

It sounds like the general consensus is that Feeley should at least be given a chance to prove it wasn't a fluke.

That's like saying Frank Reich or Kelly Holcolmb deserve chances to prove that it wasn't a fluke.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

The Eagles wanted Feeley over Garcia last summer, but Feeley was signed by San Diego.

Both QBs (Feeley, Garcia) have done remarkably well with McNabb out. I don't think it is a coincidence.

McNabb looks tentative when he plays, especially this year. Yes, Feeley made two bad decisions (the first INT - Pick 6 - couldn't step up and never should have thrown that, and then the deep INT in the Pats end zone), but there were several throws that McNabb COULD make, but he just wouldn't have attempted this season. Diving catches by Curtis, for example - the ball was thrown low and perfect, right where Curtis could get it but the DB couldn't. McNabb doesn't attempt that throw.

For whatever reason, McNabb isn't willing to give his WRs a chance - he waits for guys to "come open", and in the NFL against good secondaries this just doesn't happen every play. You have to make a throw at times, putting the ball in a spot for your WR / TE to make a play.

Personally, I would like to see more from Feeley.

As for local clamor, I'm sure that the Philly radio stations are teeming with "bench McNabb" clamor. The local papers are backing Feeley to get a shot. I think the Eagles need a change / shake-up, and this could spark them. In a year where 5-6 is still in the hunt, I say why not?

 

[FavreCo]

I'll say this much. The Ravens could use this guy. With their crew of hack QBs, the hack in Carolina and the bum in Minn among others, how is it a guy like Feeley doesn't start in this league.

 

[Joe Bryant]

The Eagles wanted Feeley over Garcia last summer, but Feeley was signed by San Diego.Both QBs (Feeley, Garcia) have done remarkably well with McNabb out. I don't think it is a coincidence.McNabb looks tentative when he plays, especially this year. Yes, Feeley made two bad decisions (the first INT - Pick 6 - couldn't step up and never should have thrown that, and then the deep INT in the Pats end zone), but there were several throws that McNabb COULD make, but he just wouldn't have attempted this season. Diving catches by Curtis, for example - the ball was thrown low and perfect, right where Curtis could get it but the DB couldn't. McNabb doesn't attempt that throw.For whatever reason, McNabb isn't willing to give his WRs a chance - he waits for guys to "come open", and in the NFL against good secondaries this just doesn't happen every play. You have to make a throw at times, putting the ball in a spot for your WR / TE to make a play.Personally, I would like to see more from Feeley.As for local clamor, I'm sure that the Philly radio stations are teeming with "bench McNabb" clamor. The local papers are backing Feeley to get a shot. I think the Eagles need a change / shake-up, and this could spark them. In a year where 5-6 is still in the hunt, I say why not?

Thanks Jeff. I can see this.J

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I simply saw AJ makes passes that McNabb either cant or will not. I saw AJ get rid of the ball quickly and from what I could tell, he made much quicker decisions with the ball. As JP said, he let the WRs do their job.

So who do I want to start next week ?? McNabb. The Eagles have to make up their mind on this cat, will he be the starter next year or not. McNabb has the rest of the year to prove himself IMO.

 

[Workhorse]

Obviously, Feeley looked pretty terrific last night but how much of his success was due to the remarkable job the Eagle offensive line did giving him a TON of time to throw the ball? They picked up almost every blitz the Pats threw at them and kept Feeley very clean most of the game.

I've got to think that if they protected McNabb like that, he'd have similar success.

 

[FavreCo]

Didnt Feeley throw 2 HUGE interceptions last night?

Vince Young regularly throws huge INT's and he is praised repeatedly for his abilities...whatever they are becasue I don't see any.He made a bad read right off the bat and the other play in the end zone should not be totally his fault. The coaches screwed that up. They were milking the clock nicely and should have NEVER taken a shot in the endzone as all that would have done is give NE time to march down the field for the win. Bad coaching as the short passing game was eating the clock and NE couldn't stop it.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Obviously, Feeley looked pretty terrific last night but how much of his success was due to the remarkable job the Eagle offensive line did giving him a TON of time to throw the ball? They picked up almost every blitz the Pats threw at them and kept Feeley very clean most of the game.I've got to think that if they protected McNabb like that, he'd have similar success.

What you saw last night was a QB who got rid of the ball and made very quick decisions. McNabb gets plenty of time back there, however most of it is spent tapping the ball with his left hand and doing a little bounce dance with his feet.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

McNabb is not done as a QB in this league, but he should no longer play for the Eagles. There are two reasons why.

1. He is not mobile enough anymore to make things happen when plays break down, and he is not accurate enough to be a stay-in-the-pocket QB. Therefore, he should not be in a West Coast Offense. He would be of use to a team like CHI, MIN, or BAL with severe QB problems, but he will have to change his approach to the game to be effective. He has not been asked to in Philly, and I don't think Reid will ever ask him to, because as others have noted, he is Reid's pet.

2. Reid's playcalling is atrocious when McNabb plays. He assumes he has the McNabb of 2004 and calls a bunch of passes that the McNabb of 2007 isn't capable of making. When he has a different QB, he puts together a more balanced and reasonable game plan.

 

[shadyridr]

I'll say this much. The Ravens could use this guy. With their crew of hack QBs, the hack in Carolina and the bum in Minn among others, how is it a guy like Feeley doesn't start in this league.

He got his chance to start in Miami and he was horrible

 

[Crusaderfan]

McNabb deserves the chance to finish this season. Everyone was forewarned that McNabb would NOT be 100% at the start of the season coming back from ACL surgery but as soon as the games started they forgot all about the warnings. He was McNabb and he was playing so everything should be great. I think he is progressing and in the last couple of games he has even started running a little. If they want to cut ties with him after the season - do it. But right now, their best chance to make the playoffs lie with McNabb.

I have never been a big McNabb fan but AJ Feeley is a backup for a reason. There were other teams in the NFL that had a look at him and released him. They didn't even keep him as a backup. Right now, is there any doubt that the McNabb playbook is different than when someone else QB's the team.

Feeley played a very nice game last night. I don't blame him for the game losing INT, that was typical Reid not having patience at a time when they were an almost lock to tie the game with a FG - to me that was worse case UNTIL that foolish play call. I almost hope that McNabb misses one more week because I think next weeks game is a letdown. They put so much into last nights game - they will struggle next week. Off that game it will be a better time to bring McNabb back.

 

[Please See Mine]

Put me down for Feeley. The reason it looked like we had WRs open last night is because AJ will throw the ball in anticipation of the WR's cut. McNabb can't seem to do that.

For whatever reason, McNabb isn't willing to give his WRs a chance - he waits for guys to "come open", and in the NFL against good secondaries this just doesn't happen every play. You have to make a throw at times, putting the ball in a spot for your WR / TE to make a play.

Obviously, Feeley looked pretty terrific last night but how much of his success was due to the remarkable job the Eagle offensive line did giving him a TON of time to throw the ball? They picked up almost every blitz the Pats threw at them and kept Feeley very clean most of the game.I've got to think that if they protected McNabb like that, he'd have similar success.

What you saw last night was a QB who got rid of the ball and made very quick decisions. McNabb gets plenty of time back there, however most of it is spent tapping the ball with his left hand and doing a little bounce dance with his feet.

In a weird way, it seems like the team gets into a better rhythm with Feeley or Garcia because they just take the play and run it. Feeley stood in and made a pass about 5 times when he was about to get leveled. I can't remember the last time I saw McNabb do that. McNabb's mobility gave him the option of moving away from that and either running himself or moving to get a better pass option. Now McNabb has made many spectacular plays that way and when he was in his prime, he was huge weapon. But I can guarantee that on some of those plays that Feeley stood in and completed passes, McNabb would have moved out of the pocket, be bottled up by defenders moving laterally, and have to throw it away. And even when McNabb did make plays that way, it just seems like the offense rarely got into the right rhythm. The O-line has to block for like 15 seconds on one play, then 2 seconds on the next. The WR's need to run all over the place to get open on one play, then just run their rout on the next. With Feeley, it's 1-2-3 pass, 1-2 run, 1-2-3 pass, 1-2-3 pass. The drive just feels like it has a rhythm. All that said, it is still difficult for me to go away from McNabb right now. I have seen him have so much success, and I've never seen Feeley have a full successful season, that it is really difficult to make the switch. When McNabb is on, he is 10 times the player that Feeley is, but maybe that is just not what they need right now.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Does any Eagles fan really want AJ to be the starter next year?? I sure dont.

 

[smokin018]

It is pretty obvious that this team plays BETTER when McNabb is not under center. You have Garcia from last year leading this team, you have Feeley/Detmer leading them a few years back when Mcnabb went down and now you have the team playing harder for AJ than Mcnabb.

McNabb accuracy problems were magnified last night when Feeley showed that the problem this year has NOT been the WR's as many people have stated. People have been crying for a stud WR and pleading for the front office to give McNabb weapons.....but here we are again with a backup QB (Garcia last year and now Feeley) showing that the WR's are fine IF you can throw the ball with even a little bit of accuracy.

Bottom line: I'd be suprised if Reid starts Feeley over McNabb next week, but this team makes the playoffs if McNabb gets benched. Next year is pretty much a lock to have Feeley and a veteran FA battle for the number one spot with Kolb getting another year of grooming.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Does any Eagles fan really want AJ to be the starter next year?? I sure dont.

I'm sure that's what Browns fans said about Derek Anderson last year.....

 

[smokin018]

Does any Eagles fan really want AJ to be the starter next year?? I sure dont.

I'll take Feeley over McNabb. We lose with McNabb, we win with any other QB who knows the system (Garcia, AJ, eventually Kolb....)The QB should be a leader, be confident, be accountable, and most importantly - make the players around him better. Mcnabb does NOT do any of these. While I am not 100% comfortable with AJ as the starter, I'll take what he brings to this team over Mcnabb.And my analysis is NOT based on just last night's game.

 

[shadyridr]

Didnt a Feeley led team barely get by the Dolphins? How come nobody remembers that game?

 

[FavreCo]

I'll say this much. The Ravens could use this guy. With their crew of hack QBs, the hack in Carolina and the bum in Minn among others, how is it a guy like Feeley doesn't start in this league.

He got his chance to start in Miami and he was horrible

Can't be any worse than the hacks I listed.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Does any Eagles fan really want AJ to be the starter next year?? I sure dont.

I'll take Feeley over McNabb. We lose with McNabb, we win with any other QB who knows the system (Garcia, AJ, evebtually Kolb....)The QB should be a leader, be confident, be accountable, and most importantly - make the players around him better. Mcnabb does NOT do any of these. While I am not 100% comfortable with AJ as the starter, I'll take what he brings to this team over Mcnabb.And my analysis is NOT based on just last night's game.

I always had McNabbs back however over the past two seasons its pretty clear the guy just is not consistent enough. I like what I have seen from AJ however if we are getting rid of McNabb then I think we really gotta look at the future and see what Kolb gives us. I do not want to get into the 1-2 QB band-aid that so many teams seem to get into.

 

[FavreCo]

Does any Eagles fan really want AJ to be the starter next year?? I sure dont.

I'm sure that's what Browns fans said about Derek Anderson last year.....

All it takes is one move to turn things around. Had they never looked at Anderson, where would they be? Probably in the cellar of the AFC East.

 

[smokin018]

Didnt a Feeley led team barely get by the Dolphins? How come nobody remembers that game?

A Feeley led team CAME FROM BEHIND to beat the Dolphins after McNabb played absolutely HORRIBLE for a quarter and a half.Also, the game plan after McNabb went out was a heavy dose of Westbrook on a day when the weather was windy and rainy. So yes, I remember that game and I remember that Feeley led WIN.....

 

[Snotbubbles]

Does any Eagles fan really want AJ to be the starter next year?? I sure dont.

It all depends on what you can get for McNabb in a trade and how the Eagles use the extra cap space from losing McNabb's hit.

 

[dotman]

It is pretty obvious that this team plays BETTER when McNabb is not under center. You have Garcia from last year leading this team, you have Feeley/Detmer leading them a few years back when Mcnabb went down and now you have the team playing harder for AJ than Mcnabb.

Jeff Garcia led the team to 1 playoff win. McNabb took them to 3 NFC championship games and a Superbowl. What evidence do you have that the team is better without McNabb? He took the Eagles as far as any QB ever has. A few years back, Detmer/Feeley managed the game well and they won games with those guys at QB, but they had a pretty easy schedule and the defense was playing great at the time. As a fan, I'm not sure yet who I want to start. But I really don't know how you can point to those 2 instances and say that the team is better without McNabb. That's ridiculous. At least tell me McNabb is hurt and Feeley played great last night. One thing that bothers me, is if McNabb would have had the same game Feeley had last night, you'd be hearing a lot of "Yeah it was close, but McNabb blew it with INT's like usual " No such talk like that about A.J. though.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Didnt a Feeley led team barely get by the Dolphins? How come nobody remembers that game?

Feeley came in midway through the game. He didn't get many reps during training camp, didn't get many reps during the months of September, October or November. Probably didn't get many, if any, reps during the game plan that week. I'd probably give him a pass on that game, especially in a timing offense like the Eagles have.

 

[smokin018]

Does any Eagles fan really want AJ to be the starter next year?? I sure dont.

I'll take Feeley over McNabb. We lose with McNabb, we win with any other QB who knows the system (Garcia, AJ, evebtually Kolb....)The QB should be a leader, be confident, be accountable, and most importantly - make the players around him better. Mcnabb does NOT do any of these. While I am not 100% comfortable with AJ as the starter, I'll take what he brings to this team over Mcnabb.And my analysis is NOT based on just last night's game.

I always had McNabbs back however over the past two seasons its pretty clear the guy just is not consistent enough. I like what I have seen from AJ however if we are getting rid of McNabb then I think we really gotta look at the future and see what Kolb gives us. I do not want to get into the 1-2 QB band-aid that so many teams seem to get into.

Agreed. But you have to play the QB that gives you the BEST CHANCE to win.....and it just is NOT McNabb any longer. He does not make the players around him better and refuses to make the passes that are there (Feeley showed this last night).I don't think that it is a coincidence that this ENTIRE team played at that level last night with AJ in there. I feel pretty sure that if McNabb plays last night our team does not perform at as high a level that they did.....

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

It is pretty obvious that this team plays BETTER when McNabb is not under center. You have Garcia from last year leading this team, you have Feeley/Detmer leading them a few years back when Mcnabb went down and now you have the team playing harder for AJ than Mcnabb.

One thing that bothers me, is if McNabb would have had the same game Feeley had last night, you'd be hearing a lot of "Yeah it was close, but McNabb blew it with INT's like usual " No such talk like that about A.J. though.

Thats all because of expectations. Just like when you were a kid and brought home an "A" on your report card. Your parents said "Great !! You proved you can do it once, now keep it up.".McNabb has tickled our %#$'s for years, looking absolutely brilliant and then time and time again he lets us down. McNabb is expected to do great things game in and game out. AJ is not.

 

[smokin018]

It is pretty obvious that this team plays BETTER when McNabb is not under center. You have Garcia from last year leading this team, you have Feeley/Detmer leading them a few years back when Mcnabb went down and now you have the team playing harder for AJ than Mcnabb.

Jeff Garcia led the team to 1 playoff win. McNabb took them to 3 NFC championship games and a Superbowl. What evidence do you have that the team is better without McNabb? He took the Eagles as far as any QB ever has. A few years back, Detmer/Feeley managed the game well and they won games with those guys at QB, but they had a pretty easy schedule and the defense was playing great at the time. As a fan, I'm not sure yet who I want to start. But I really don't know how you can point to those 2 instances and say that the team is better without McNabb. That's ridiculous. At least tell me McNabb is hurt and Feeley played great last night. One thing that bothers me, is if McNabb would have had the same game Feeley had last night, you'd be hearing a lot of "Yeah it was close, but McNabb blew it with INT's like usual " No such talk like that about A.J. though.

The team played at high level and I believe that it was BECAUSE McNabb was out. McNabb may be the best QB in the league but if your entire team plays better without him, you gotta start the other guy.And yes, McNabb won a bunch of playoff games for us. Things have changed and he has obviously lost the locker room. I wish they rallied around him like they used to, but for today it is what it is. I just want to win games.....we're not doing that with McNabb this year and last year. Personally, I think McNabb has mentally checked out since the TO fiasco and I have zero confidence he'll ever get his swagger back that he had from 2000-2004.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Wow, I can't believe all the Feeley kool-aid in here. The guy is a career backup. He couldn't beat out Joey Harrington in college and couldn't beat out Koy Detmer in Philly. (KOY DETMER!) Miami thought he was the QB of the future and he couldn't outplay the guy he was supposed to be replacing -- Jay Fiedler. JAY FIEDLER!! Then Miami traded him for Cleo Lemon. CLEO LEMON!!! And in San Diego he couldn't beat out Charlie Whitehurst for the 3rd string job. CHARLIE WHITEHURST?!? And if Philly ever thought the guy might be starter material then there's no way they would have spent a high draft pick on Kevin Kolb.

Now he has one semi-decent game (and btw, McNabb would have been absolutely crucified for throwing one of those interceptions, let alone three of them) and people are talking about annointing him as the starter???

Take a step back to reality, people.

 

[Jaysus]

Wow, I can't believe all the Feeley kool-aid in here. The guy is a career backup. He couldn't beat out Joey Harrington in college and couldn't beat out Koy Detmer in Philly. Miami thought he was the QB of the future and he couldn't outplay the guy he was supposed to be replacing -- Jay Fiedler. JAY FIEDLER!! Then Miami traded him for Cleo Lemon. CLEO LEMON!!! And in San Diego he couldn't beat out Charlie Whitehurst for the 3rd string job. CHARLIE WHITEHURST?!? And if Philly ever thought the guy might be starter material then there's no way they would have spent a high draft pick on Kevin Kolb.

Now he has one semi-decent game (and btw, McNabb would have been absolutely crucified for throwing one of those interceptions, let alone three of them) and people are talking about annointing him as the starter???

Take a step back to reality, people.

 

[stevegamer]

Most local Eagles fans were figuring this as a blowout. They knew Feeley was going to suck, and the Eagles would get trounced. I know someone who lost a lot of money (about 5-10% of annual job income) on the Pats, and he's a die-hard Eagles fan - also insane for cambling that much, admittedly.

Note the people calling for Reid's head before this week, since he wasn't into it, wasn't a good coach, etc. The Eagles play better than anyone has a right to expect, and now I hear Reid being praised for the coaching job - and it weas a very good job, by and large. Now McNabb's the problem, and Feeley's the solution.

The main point to take is that most Eagles fans aren't satisfied unless there's something to complain about - or the team just spanked Dallas. Beating Dallas big gets the team a hall pass for a week. The glass is always half-empty, and it doesn't matter how far you get in the playoffs. If you don't win the Super Bowl, it's not far enough to be a good year, if there are ANY expectations of success.

 

[Dr. J]

If McNabb is 100%, he should play. I think AJ does a terrific job in this offense. Unfortunately, Andy Reid makes some head-scratching calls at critical times and whomever the QB is, they take the heat. That being said, if McNabb is not 100%, AJ should play.

 

[philly_battery_thrower]

As was posted in an Eagles forum, I think playing McNabb might be better longer term. Benching him for Feeley could hurt his trade value at the end of the season. I've always been a huge 5 supporter, but i can't help but think his run has ended hear in Philly. That said, I can easily see him being successful in another city, 2 years removed from injury.

I'd like to see Feeley at least once more and if at the end of the season we're not fighting for a p/o spot, throw Kolb in to see what he can do...but i do expect to see 5 back when he's ready to go.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

Where is the "None of The Above" option?

Feeley looked fine and made some plays, but he has virtually no velocity on the ball, cannot throw it deep (underthrew Curtis for a TD once, then picked at the end of the game), and has proven to be VERY inconsistent in games he starts.

As for McNabb, as much as i have supported him throughout the years (no i didnt boo at the draft), it may be time to go. He has a very tired and weary look about him...the same one that McNair and Culpepper have right now. Whether its from taking too many hits, injuries piling up, or just a lack of fire/motivation, i am not sure. But, he is definitely not a QB that will take you to the SB anymore, IMO.

Any way you slice it, next year is going to be rough for Iggles fans. An aging D that has done almost nothing in the draft recently, suspect WRs, and a coaching staff that has to have their commitment questioned (well, one coach anyway). It all adds up to a dreary immediate future IMO

 

[smokin018]

I have watched every minute of every Eagles game for many many years. That team last night played at a level well above anything I've seen in the last two years with McNabb as QB.

I am not trying to make sense of it, but when I see players executing at that level and then falling on their face with McNabb in there, I put two and two together and realize the best chance to win is with McNabb on the bench.

Also, aside from the Detriot game earlier in the year, our WR's and TE looked better last night than at any point this year or last year with McNabb throwing the ball. How can I cry about the lack of of top tier WR talent on this team when they showed me last night that the issue may be the QB and not them? Did our offensive line just happen to decide to play their best game of the year LAST NIGHT with Feeley in regards to their protection package? How many balls were thrown in the dirt or at WR's feet last night? Any dropped balls? Any dumb penalties on the offensive side of the ball that cost us?

This offense is BETTER without McNabb right now. I don't know why, and I don't care why. Reid needs to play the guy that gives our team the best chance to win. It was Garcia last year by defualt with the injury, this year it's Feeley.

 

[smokin018]

If McNabb is 100%, he should play. I think AJ does a terrific job in this offense. Unfortunately, Andy Reid makes some head-scratching calls at critical times and whomever the QB is, they take the heat. That being said, if McNabb is not 100%, AJ should play.

After the first 2 or 3 throws at WR's feet on Sunday at the Linc vs Seattle, every fan will be booing and chanting for AJ. I don't think it'll be the ideal situation for Mcnabb and his fragile ego......

 

[philly_battery_thrower]

Any way you slice it, next year is going to be rough for Iggles fans. An aging D that has done almost nothing in the draft recently, suspect WRs, and a coaching staff that has to have their commitment questioned (well, one coach anyway). It all adds up to a dreary immediate future IMO

I wouldn't worry about the "aging D" too much. The D Line is all pretty young (Cole, Thomas, Patterson, Bunkley), 2 of the 3 starting LBers are young, and Sheppard and Brown aren't exactly dinosaurs yet. Dawkins looks like he may be losing a step and Spikes may need to be replaced...but it's not all bad. Of course, I do think they need help on the line next season and need to find a FS/SS combo for the future. Reed looked good last night, but is certainly a ? given his bad injury a couple years back.

 

[smokin018]

Where is the "None of The Above" option?

Feeley looked fine and made some plays, but he has virtually no velocity on the ball, cannot throw it deep (underthrew Curtis for a TD once, then picked at the end of the game), and has proven to be VERY inconsistent in games he starts.

As for McNabb, as much as i have supported him throughout the years (no i didnt boo at the draft), it may be time to go. He has a very tired and weary look about him...the same one that McNair and Culpepper have right now. Whether its from taking too many hits, injuries piling up, or just a lack of fire/motivation, i am not sure. But, he is definitely not a QB that will take you to the SB anymore, IMO.

Any way you slice it, next year is going to be rough for Iggles fans. An aging D that has done almost nothing in the draft recently, suspect WRs, and a coaching staff that has to have their commitment questioned (well, one coach anyway). It all adds up to a dreary immediate future IMO

Aside from Dawkins, how are they an aging D? They have very young LB's (outside of Spikes) and have great youth on the D-line (JThomas, TCole, BBunkley, MPatterson). Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown are 26 and 28 years old respectively and their starting MLB in Gaither is only 23!I also don't think the WR's are suspect.....but that is pretty subjective.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

you're both right, now that i take a closer look, the D isnt that old...its just different. I still remember (and am possibly living in) the days of B Dawk, Taylor and Vincent, when the backfield was the strength of the D. It does appear that the younger, faster LBs will be the strength of this D. Also, after years of Reggie, JB, Trotter, the aforementioned DBs, Joyner, etc... i guess i am used to a star laden D. This version, at least so far, appears to be a "no-name" style.

ETA: As long as Considine never sees the field again in Eagles green, i guess i am ok with the D

ETA2: Back to the topic, i still don't like either choice

 

[Eagle Eye]

Wow, I can't believe all the Feeley kool-aid in here. The guy is a career backup. He couldn't beat out Joey Harrington in college and couldn't beat out Koy Detmer in Philly. (KOY DETMER!) Miami thought he was the QB of the future and he couldn't outplay the guy he was supposed to be replacing -- Jay Fiedler. JAY FIEDLER!! Then Miami traded him for Cleo Lemon. CLEO LEMON!!! And in San Diego he couldn't beat out Charlie Whitehurst for the 3rd string job. CHARLIE WHITEHURST?!? And if Philly ever thought the guy might be starter material then there's no way they would have spent a high draft pick on Kevin Kolb.

Now he has one semi-decent game (and btw, McNabb would have been absolutely crucified for throwing one of those interceptions, let alone three of them) and people are talking about annointing him as the starter???

Take a step back to reality, people.

Nobody is annointing Feeley the savoir. But we won't make the playoffs with McNabb...his record is at or below .500 over his last 30 starts! We have a chance with Feeley and we get to find out if the light has turned on for him. Many QBs come of age later in their careers.btw, he beat out Detmer but Koy dressed on game day because he was the holder.

 

[Please See Mine]

couldn't beat out Koy Detmer in Philly. (KOY DETMER!)

To be fair, that had more to do with Detmer being Akers's favorite holder and because no one would ever have given up a 2nd-round pick for Detmer and because with McNabb there, the Eagles really didn't feel any compelling reason to keep around a potential replacement.