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I don't think the McNabb to Brown/Curtis/Baskett Trio scares any coach in the NFL this year either. So you are right as far as that goes, I agree with you.
Great...back to the injuries thing. The label injury prone is more misused in fantasy circles then in any other football arena...so let's try to step OUTSIDE of our little world for a second. He was drafted in 99, and lost 5 games to a broken leg a few years later.
My problem is THAT YOU SAY THAT AS IF IT'S NOT IMPORTANT!!!He missed 7 games in 05, not important.
No, thats where you're wrong, 3 years in a row of not getting it done, will get any fanbase concerned and starting to look at other options. This whole "Philly fans are the devil" thing that is popular in the media is rediculous. We just want to win. There are much worse fans around the league.Didn't a few years ago, Cleveland fans get heat for throwing "actual glass bottles at players". Are you telling me there aren't fights in the stands at Raiders games. Those things get glossed over, I could bring up many more examples. It's nonsense, the idea that Philly fans are monsters. There are monsters all around the league when fans are passionet and have a little too much alcohol. Stop allowing yourself to be brainwashed by the media. Wake Up!D Mac has not been getting it done, and that's why people are calling for his head, not cause the fans are stupid. Wake Up!
And that is the main fallacy in your argument. Alot of what you say is true, but nobody is running McNabb out, Nobody CAN RUN MCNABB OUT. This organization doesn't make moves on what the fanbase thinks, it makes moves on what they think gives the team the best chance to win. If McNabb leaves, he's not leaving cause of the fans, he's leaving cause the organization has felt it is time to move on.
If that was the case Philly wouldn't be $20 million under the cap every year. My problem with Philly fans are the ones that want McNabb out now because they think Feeley/Kolb is a much better situation right now.
If McNabb is elsewhere in 2008 it is because Andy has finally given up on his decade long experiment on making an athletic QB with questionable accuracy into a quick striking, accurate WCO QB. I do maintain that for 7 out of the 9 years McNabb has been QB, the Eagles FO has surrounded him with pass catchers that would struggle to make the Varsity squad at Delaware County Community College, even though they had the cap room to surround McNabb with the proper talent necessary to actually win a championship rather than just get close enough to sniff it.
I am a Giant fan and while the injuries have taken a toll over the past few years IF you feel that he can be healthy he is at worst and above average QB and can be a weapon. The knee injury is a big deal though and players may never get back to full speed which is an important part of McNabb's game. Culpepper will never be the same after his ripped up knee and McNabb may be in that category as well? This is the unknown, but one is delusional if they think that Feely is a better answer than a healthy McNabb.
A couple points:1. There are LOTS of stupid Philly fans. I'm Philly, born & raised. By and large, we are passionate. However, the media doesn't create the brianwashing, it just emphasizes it. Check out WIP - they basically cater to the idiot Philly fan. No interviews, no substance. They used to have more than they do now, but since they went on the air they have increasingly gone away from more in-depth sports info & discussion to being the sports equivalent of the Weekly World news. If a game isn't on, they are useless. Alcohol isn't relevant.2. Regarding McNabb, he was never the fan's choice, but they warmed to him when he showed some skills. Right now, he's hurt and not playing well. He is not really a great fit for the WCO, but he's been good enough to get close to winning it all. The lack of WR is especially glaring: Owens/Curtis/Brown/Baskett would be pretty doggone dominant if they had that right now.3. I disagree that he hasn't gotten it done for 3 years. Of the 3 years you mentioned, he was clearly getting it done in 2006 pre-injury - I don't know how anyone can logically & intelligently come to any other conclusion.In 2005, he was responsible for 16 of 21 pass TD's, and 9 of 20 INT's. The team wasn't winning, but the defense had fallen off terribly - every year the eagles have failed to make the playoffs lately the D has been an issue. He was part of the shortfall because he wasn't palying as well in previous seasons, but not close to the whole shortfall, and not the main part of the problem.This year, he came back hurt, and has been sub-par, but would show flashes.
I was mainly talking about the media outside of Philly, the national media which constantly focuses the drunken idiot segment of our football fan base. Every city with a team has that segment in their fanbase to some degree, but constantly focusing on it and painting the picture of the whole fan base as stupid drunken no-nothing idiots, is getting really played out.I agree that one of the main problems over the years has been the lack of consistently good receivers. Especially in a system where the coach calls pass plays 60% of the time. For years we played with guys like Na Brown, freddie mitchell, todd pinksten, and others who when eventually (finally) released from the team, weren't good enough to make it on any other team in the league. It is a real shame that this organization couldn't do a better job of surrounding this guy with weapons.He was playing through injury in 05 and didn't look good out there. He was having a VERY GOOD SEASON in 06 before he GOT HURT AGAIN. And this year he is playing through injury again and does not look good out there. I'm okay with D-Mac coming back next year at 100% and hopefully getting him another weapon. But the injury problems are really worrisome, and to not be concerned about it would just be naive.
Now, this post finally makes a little bit more sense. Yes, the injuries concern me, but they don't terrify me because of the non-repititive, flukey nature of them. What terrifies me is the short sighted and all too common opinion that McNabb would be easily replaced by somebody better.I dug this 3 day old thread up because I saw no new threads or postings which contained anything about Eagles president Joe Banners interview (clipped
Team President Joe Banner was a guest on Howard Eskin's radio show on 610 WIP Thursday afternoon. The show offered fans an opportunity to pick Banner's brain about all things Eagles - decisions the organization has made in the past, the present state of the team and where it is heading in the future. QB Donovan McNabb Banner fielded questions about a number of different topics, ranging from personnel decisions and salary cap management to draft day strategy. Here are some of the highlights:"I can't envision a situation in which (Donovan McNabb) is not our quarterback next year ... I believe there is a very, very sizable silent majority who realize how lucky we have been to have Donovan McNabb. I mean, we are talking about a quarterback who went to four straight (NFC) championship games. There are only four quarterbacks in the history of the league that have done that. You are talking about a quarterback who has had a higher winning percentage in his first seven years in the league than Peyton Manning. You are talking about a quarterback that has one of the highest quarterback ratings over the first seven seasons, one of the best TD-to-interceptions ratios of any quarterback in the history of this game in his first seven seasons in the league ... My expectations, and I can't really even picture a different scenario, is that he'll be the quarterback (next season)."From me again:
I agree with the two bolded statements.McNabb is a good passer, but he has never been regarded as highly accurate. The common misconception about him is that he is accurate due to his low interception percentage (as a % of attempts), but the issue here is that he seems unwilling (or unable) to stick a throw into a tough spot or put it where only his WR can make a play.
The bowtie was in reference to the Feeley kool-aid. Or do you still think he should start ahead of McNabb or Kolb or Detmer?
14-18 in his last 32 starts
14-18 in his last 32 starts