Eagles sign Ronnie Brown (1 Viewer)

[Young 8]

Think the Eagles would like to limit Mccoy to around 200 carries so i think it will be around a 2-1 split with Ronnie getting around 100 carries.

ROTFL

 

[Shutout]

This signing is ALL about getting the type of back that can get short yardage and punch it in at the goaline (something the Eagles have been woeful at for a decade).

It makes Philadelpia a better team but has little impact on McCoy.

Ronnie brown's work will be as described above. He's not going to be a guy you see come in for 2-3 series a game in place of McCoy.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Think the Eagles would like to limit Mccoy to around 200 carries so i think it will be around a 2-1 split with Ronnie getting around 100 carries.

ROTFL

does ronnie get more or less than that? not sure whats so funny.

 

[Young 8]

Think the Eagles would like to limit Mccoy to around 200 carries so i think it will be around a 2-1 split with Ronnie getting around 100 carries.

ROTFL

does ronnie get more or less than that? not sure whats so funny.

I suggest to drop McCoy and pick up Ronnie Brown

 

[Snotbubbles]

Think the Eagles would like to limit Mccoy to around 200 carries so i think it will be around a 2-1 split with Ronnie getting around 100 carries.

ROTFL

does ronnie get more or less than that? not sure whats so funny.

I suggest to drop McCoy and pick up Ronnie Brown

Not sure if serious. If both stay healthy for the year:McCoy will get around 200 carries.

Brown will get around 75-100 carries.

Why ROTFL?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Think the Eagles would like to limit Mccoy to around 200 carries so i think it will be around a 2-1 split with Ronnie getting around 100 carries. Before last year, Eagles RBs carried the ball a little over 300 times a year. Think they get back to that with a lot of late game leads. At nearly 30 years old and signed for only a year at a million bucks, he's definitely the backup though at this stage of his career. Mccoys YPC was 2nd to only Charles last year, only reason hes on the bench is to keep him fresh and limit wear.

Very good FP, just would like to add that should McCoy miss a game or two or even be a 50/50 start and have limited touches...suddenly Ronnie Brown might be a decent flex or RB2 start should that occur. He is going pretty late in drafts, we're talking RB4/5 range. I think if you take McCoy you might want the handcuff at least to start the season.

 

[Frank Black]

Curious to hear what people think his 2011 stat line will be like as an Eagle & how this may effect McCoy's stats.

I don't see it affecting McCoys stats much at all - Brown is most likely just insurance and shouldn't see a significant role with the Eagles imo. He looked to be in serious decline last season.

Agreed.

 

[Hoosier16]

Think the Eagles would like to limit Mccoy to around 200 carries so i think it will be around a 2-1 split with Ronnie getting around 100 carries. Before last year, Eagles RBs carried the ball a little over 300 times a year. Think they get back to that with a lot of late game leads. At nearly 30 years old and signed for only a year at a million bucks, he's definitely the backup though at this stage of his career. Mccoys YPC was 2nd to only Charles last year, only reason hes on the bench is to keep him fresh and limit wear.

Unless Philly becomes a running team, I wouldn't expect an increase. In 4 of the last 5 years, Philly has consistently had about 425 running plays (in 2009, it was 384). Last year, they had 428, which was the most they have had during that time. The reason for the decrease in RB carries was Vick. In a normal years, the QBs have about 50 carries. Last year, they had 115. So, unless Reid becomes a running coach or he significantly reduces Vick's carries, the RBs won't likely see a significant increase. If Brown were to get 100 carries, McCoy would likely see about a 50 carry reduction.

 

[LHUCKS]

I just read a fantasy article on a very popular website that said Brown wouldn't impact McCoy...I say BS.

McCoy's load will definitely be lightened this year barrring injury to Brown.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I just read a fantasy article on a very popular website that said Brown wouldn't impact McCoy...I say BS.McCoy's load will definitely be lightened this year barrring injury to Brown.

I just bumped Brown, thanks.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

The season can't get here soon enough

 

[Young 8]

Think the Eagles would like to limit Mccoy to around 200 carries so i think it will be around a 2-1 split with Ronnie getting around 100 carries.

ROTFL

does ronnie get more or less than that? not sure whats so funny.

I suggest to drop McCoy and pick up Ronnie Brown

Not sure if serious. If both stay healthy for the year:McCoy will get around 200 carries.

Brown will get around 75-100 carries.

Why ROTFL?

Jerome Harrison part II

Should I bump that 2010 thread just to make fun of idiots there ?

 

[Young 8]

I just read a fantasy article on a very popular website that said Brown wouldn't impact McCoy...I say BS.McCoy's load will definitely be lightened this year barrring injury to Brown.

Do you wanna bet ?

 

[Snotbubbles]

Think the Eagles would like to limit Mccoy to around 200 carries so i think it will be around a 2-1 split with Ronnie getting around 100 carries.

ROTFL

does ronnie get more or less than that? not sure whats so funny.

I suggest to drop McCoy and pick up Ronnie Brown

Not sure if serious. If both stay healthy for the year:McCoy will get around 200 carries.

Brown will get around 75-100 carries.

Why ROTFL?

Jerome Harrison part II

Should I bump that 2010 thread just to make fun of idiots there ?

Not sure what you're trying to argue here?Jerome Harrison had 40 carries in 8 games with Philly last year.

 

[Young 8]

Not sure what you're trying to argue here?

The 2-1 split McCoy/Brown

Jerome Harrison had 40 carries in 8 games with Philly last year.

Sure, 21 of those in the last game of the season with the starters on the bench

 

[delusional]

I think this will affect McCoy more than most think. The Eagles barely used Harrison. Other than the blowout against Wash and week 17 when McCoy didn't play, he got 9 carries in the other 7 games. Brown will get more than 1 carry per game, which means the Eagles are going to run more or the carries will come out of McCoy's pocket.

I think the eagles are taking a new approach to the offense this year & will run the ball a bit more. They never went out and did FA like that did this year so i think the pressure from the front office & new coaching staff, reid is going to open up his mind a bit more about running.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Not sure what you're trying to argue here?

The 2-1 split McCoy/Brown

Jerome Harrison had 40 carries in 8 games with Philly last year.

Sure, 21 of those in the last game of the season with the starters on the bench

Taking away Harrison's 21 carries he had 19 carries in 8 games

Eldra Buckley 21 carries

Mike Bell 16 carries

Chad Hall 9 carries

So that's 65 carries by RBs other than McCoy. None of those guys are as talented as Ronnie Brown.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I think this will affect McCoy more than most think. The Eagles barely used Harrison. Other than the blowout against Wash and week 17 when McCoy didn't play, he got 9 carries in the other 7 games. Brown will get more than 1 carry per game, which means the Eagles are going to run more or the carries will come out of McCoy's pocket.

I think the eagles are taking a new approach to the offense this year & will run the ball a bit more. They never went out and did FA like that did this year so i think the pressure from the front office & new coaching staff, reid is going to open up his mind a bit more about running.

Unless there is some big time growth by some of the young players on the Oline, they'll have to run more to keep Vick from getting murdered. If they pass the ball this year as much they have in the past, I put the O/U on the amount of full games Vick plays at 10.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I think this will affect McCoy more than most think. The Eagles barely used Harrison. Other than the blowout against Wash and week 17 when McCoy didn't play, he got 9 carries in the other 7 games. Brown will get more than 1 carry per game, which means the Eagles are going to run more or the carries will come out of McCoy's pocket.

I think the eagles are taking a new approach to the offense this year & will run the ball a bit more. They never went out and did FA like that did this year so i think the pressure from the front office & new coaching staff, reid is going to open up his mind a bit more about running.

Unless there is some big time growth by some of the young players on the Oline, they'll have to run more to keep Vick from getting murdered. If they pass the ball this year as much they have in the past, I put the O/U on the amount of full games Vick plays at 10.

Then bet the sure thing and take the under. The only reason it may appear we run more is because it will be Vick doing it. Andy will not change. Ever.

 

[FF Ninja]

I don't get all this talk about using Brown as a wildcat QB. Didn't the Eagles originally sign Vick to run the wildcat? Isn't he the best suited player in the league to run it? Why the hell would they line up Brown at QB and Vick at WR?! That talk is seriously dumbfounding. Is everyone totally off their rocker?

 

[FF Ninja]

Jerome Harrison part II

Should I bump that 2010 thread just to make fun of idiots there ?

The Jerome Harrison talk last year was ridiculous, I agree. But Ronnie Brown is much more talented than Harrison. Harrison had a couple big games on the Browns at the end of a season. Ronnie Brown has been a top 10 ppg player for several seasons. As recently as 2009 he has torn it up on a ppg basis. 2010 was a disaster for Miami and that has clearly burned an image into most fantasy owners' minds. If he did not fall off a cliff talent-wise last year, he could be very good here. It all depends on how Reid views him. Is he purely insurance or does Reid want to use his talent? Brown is big, has great speed, and has good receiving skills. The Harrison comparison is foolish.

 

[dhockster]

I don't get all this talk about using Brown as a wildcat QB. Didn't the Eagles originally sign Vick to run the wildcat? Isn't he the best suited player in the league to run it? Why the hell would they line up Brown at QB and Vick at WR?! That talk is seriously dumbfounding. Is everyone totally off their rocker?

Their is a big difference between Vick running the wildcat as a 3rd string QB when you don't really care if he gets hurt, and running it as a starting QB, when you want your starting QB to be able to keep playing. Having Vick stay in the game as a WR is meant to confuse the defense as their is always the possibility that he could get the ball via a lateral and still pass the ball, he could also run it, or go out for a pass.

 

[Hoosier16]

I don't get all this talk about using Brown as a wildcat QB. Didn't the Eagles originally sign Vick to run the wildcat? Isn't he the best suited player in the league to run it? Why the hell would they line up Brown at QB and Vick at WR?! That talk is seriously dumbfounding. Is everyone totally off their rocker?

Their is a big difference between Vick running the wildcat as a 3rd string QB when you don't really care if he gets hurt, and running it as a starting QB, when you want your starting QB to be able to keep playing. Having Vick stay in the game as a WR is meant to confuse the defense as their is always the possibility that he could get the ball via a lateral and still pass the ball, he could also run it, or go out for a pass.

Vick is far more dangerous with the ball in his hands than split out as a wr or taking a pitch. There isn't any reason at all to put Brown behind center and split Vick out wide. Opposing teams would be relieved if that happened.

 

[SWC]

hes getting so out of shape that maybe they can use him on the line

 

[dhockster]

I don't get all this talk about using Brown as a wildcat QB. Didn't the Eagles originally sign Vick to run the wildcat? Isn't he the best suited player in the league to run it? Why the hell would they line up Brown at QB and Vick at WR?! That talk is seriously dumbfounding. Is everyone totally off their rocker?

Their is a big difference between Vick running the wildcat as a 3rd string QB when you don't really care if he gets hurt, and running it as a starting QB, when you want your starting QB to be able to keep playing. Having Vick stay in the game as a WR is meant to confuse the defense as their is always the possibility that he could get the ball via a lateral and still pass the ball, he could also run it, or go out for a pass.

Vick is far more dangerous with the ball in his hands than split out as a wr or taking a pitch. There isn't any reason at all to put Brown behind center and split Vick out wide. Opposing teams would be relieved if that happened.

That wasn't the question the OP asked. He asked why run the wildcat with Brown at QB than Vick. It is because in the wildcat, the QB will actually run the ball a good bit of the time. While Vick is a great scrambler, his forte is not picking what holes to run through, and he definitely risks more injury by running in a set running play where he is likely to be tackled by multiple heavy lineman. I don't think the Eagles want to expose Vick to any more injury risk than they have to.

 

[shortbow]

Jerome Harrison part II

Should I bump that 2010 thread just to make fun of idiots there ?

The Jerome Harrison talk last year was ridiculous, I agree. But Ronnie Brown is much more talented than Harrison. Harrison had a couple big games on the Browns at the end of a season. Ronnie Brown has been a top 10 ppg player for several seasons. As recently as 2009 he has torn it up on a ppg basis. 2010 was a disaster for Miami and that has clearly burned an image into most fantasy owners' minds. If he did not fall off a cliff talent-wise last year, he could be very good here. It all depends on how Reid views him. Is he purely insurance or does Reid want to use his talent? Brown is big, has great speed, and has good receiving skills. The Harrison comparison is foolish.

You know who else had a good second half of the year after showing little talent prior to then? Also in garbage time against bad defenses?Jamaal Charles. Ill admit that when healthy (lol) Ronnie Brown is a better choice, but Harrison is no slouch.

 

[SWC]

maybe when he stands on the sideline he will be a good windblock for players that actually do things

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Ronnie Brown is a proven stud with injury problems. Apples and oranges.

Proven stud? Huh? He of 1 1000 yard season? When I think of proven studs, Ronnie Brown doesn't really come to mind. He's an upgrade over Harrison, but let's not get carried away here.

 

[Young 8]

Bump

 

[Cawbird]

Why bump this when there will be 5 other "Ronnie Brown traded to Detroit" threads???????

How about LOCK.

 

[Young 8]

Why bump this when there will be 5 other "Ronnie Brown traded to Detroit" threads???????

How about LOCK.

Just to laugh at some posts like this

Think the Eagles would like to limit Mccoy to around 200 carries so i think it will be around a 2-1 split with Ronnie getting around 100 carries.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

I maintain, he's a proven stud with injury problems.

Never a proven stud. Is 3rd string and was just unloaded for an injured gameday inactive RB.Won't last the yaer on the Eagles (will be cut and they'll find a comparable talent on the street)

 

[Insein]

He had a pedigree skill set but injuries have taken their toll. I see him getting around 5-10 touches a game at most. Its depth but I don't see this as anything major. He's just a name at this point. As long as he can pick up the blitz when in there, then he's ok. Anyone have any insight on whether he was good at blitz pickup in Miami?

Exactly.Should have just kept Harrison in the first place.

 

[JetMaxx]

I just read a fantasy article on a very popular website that said Brown wouldn't impact McCoy...I say BS.McCoy's load will definitely be lightened this year barrring injury to Brown.

Yet another great call by lhucks. Terrific bump.