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Rohn Jambo
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I know FBGs would not try to benefit from this human tragedy but a Canadian confirmed they have nothing to do with the improvement to Kent's health:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/08/03/canadian-ebola-drug-not-given-to-infected-worker_n_5646159.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/08/03/canadian-ebola-drug-not-given-to-infected-worker_n_5646159.html
Rohn Jambo
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There seems to be a lot of confusion in the media about the "unknown serum" that Kent had taken.... It is called "Ebola-infected Black people's blood".
Seems like for something so easily contained with proper protocols there sure are a lot of people getting it. 60 doctors, nurses and healthcare workers dead from this outbreak is a rather large number for the total cases so far, isn't it?
Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
Frankly, if I were given the choice of the survivor's blood vs. the experimental serum, I would choose option #1 too. My guess is the experimental serum might not be working as well on Nancy Writebol when Tekmira issued a disclaimer that she did not take their drug.
Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
The pattern for past outbreaks was health workers were the first to go then other people who knew and came into contact with the victims. It gets out of control when the disease spreads to urban population centers.
shader
Footballguy
People dying in airports is a scary turn of events. Nothing has happened so far in the past 3-4 days that make me worry for me or my family (even the Tennessee doctor returning to Tennessee).
But I'm still convinced that if this isn't contained quickly, it can ravage the 3rd world.
What's worse is what this could do with the advent of social media. Can you imagine the reaction of people to the Spanish Flu if twitter were around? Some sort of mass panic could easily begin to happen.
But I'm still convinced that if this isn't contained quickly, it can ravage the 3rd world.
What's worse is what this could do with the advent of social media. Can you imagine the reaction of people to the Spanish Flu if twitter were around? Some sort of mass panic could easily begin to happen.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
I'm not ready to go full Dustin Hoffman just yet, but reality is not mirroring expectations at this point.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
I agree but others in this thread have said we are crazy to worry about this. they are so confident in our healthcare protocols that they think it is a good idea that ebola man was brought onto our soil.
The Z Machine
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Why? Do you have expertise in hemorrhagic fevers, developing world economies, or are you part of EIS?
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That's true to some extent but it's more likely the case when the doctors/healthcare workers don't immediately know what they're dealing with. We're talking people who are being infected knowing full well what they were going to deal with.
Rohn Jambo
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Yeah, but a similar incident already happened earlier in July when Patrick Sawyer travelled trough several busy airports before he collapsed in the airport in Lago, Liberia. He contracted Ebola from taking care of a sister who also died from the same disease. Obama was briefed on the situation but again we were told "it was unlikely he would have infected anyone". I think the media downplayed the fact that he was an American citizen.
If Donald Sutherland and Morgan Freeman show up it will be time to reconsider.
That may be because he was a natural born Liberian working as a Deputy Minister of Finance for the Liberian government when he flew to Nigeria for a conference. It's likely the media didn't find out he was naturalized until they looked deeper into his history.
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Politician Spock
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I think a Patrick Dempsey sighting in an ER might push me over the line.
I just deleted Grey's Anatomy season pass from the DVR. My wife will be pissed.
Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
People were a little "over confident" because the disease could "only be transmitted through bodily fluids.". You will hear the media repeat this.What is scary to me is another straint of Ebola which was airborne. It was discovered in monkeys shipped from the Philippines (via Malaysian Airline) to laboratories in Viginia, NYC and Texas. The CDC had to killed all the monkeys the both times when this virus was found and we were lucky that no humans were infected.
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Rohn Jambo
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CNN has not put BREAKING NEWS banner on Ebola yet but, if they do, you can count on Patrick Dempsey being called to testify as an expert.
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Dan Gladden's Mustache
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Politician Spock
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Rohn Jambo
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No, they knew. His wife gave a new conference saying it could have been worse if he had fell sick later because he was planning to fly home to Minnesota later in July to celebrate his daughter's birthday.
Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
I did not do an in-depth search but here is something from Stanford University.http://web.stanford.edu/group/virus/filo/ebor.html
The General
Footballguy
I'm flying all over the place over the next week - 3 cities in 5 days. What do I need to watch out for?
Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
First of all, do not exchange bodily fluids with the locals.
Second, stay over there until the coast is clear.
Politician Spock
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Dan Gladden's Mustache
Footballguy
Google "Ebola airborne."
It basically passed from pigs to monkeys in an experimental setting through large droplets of saliva/mucus. Not actually airborne like other viruses.
The General
Footballguy
Can't guarantee the first. I have seen Outbreak so I feel confident I can weed out the infected.
Definitely coming back home next Friday.
The General
Footballguy
I have been on flights that were almost that bad.
Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
This is true for the current outbreak in West Africa. If a victim coughs or sneezes, the virus can land on surfaces and survive outside a body for several days.You have to search for Ebola Reston instead. This strain was first found in monkeys but later discovered in pigs in 2008 and a pig farmer in 2009. It is not deadly like the Zaire strain in W. Africa but can become more dangerous for humans as it infects more types of animals.
http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/204/suppl_3/S757.full
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Rohn Jambo
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Yes, he is a nice guy at all but I could not help but think the government let him back into the country because he could be the first white guy with Ebola resistant antibodies.
lod01
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So let me get this straight. We spent a lot of coin bringing this clown back to the US to infect us all and we could have just waited for some other clown to jump on a plane and bring it over here for free?
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CletiusMaximus
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Rabies is very nearly 100% fatal in humans, and there are likely bats and racoons in residential neighborhoods across the country with it, but no one is concerned because its pretty rare for bats or racoons to bite people. But what if there's a strain out there that can be transmitted through the air? Shouldn't we be talking about that? Does Alex Jones believe that is possible?
B-Deep
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Hawks64
Footballguy
So what you're saying is rabies has no treatment and if you get it you're dead?
Politician Spock
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B-Deep
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B-Deep
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You know what crazy is? Crazy is majority rules. Take germs, for example... In the eighteenth century, no such thing, nada, nothing. No one ever imagined such a thing. No sane person, anyway. Ah! Ah! Along comes this doctor, uh, uh, uh, Semmelweis, Semmelweis. Semmelweis comes along. He's trying to convince people, well, other doctors mainly, that's there's these teeny tiny invisible bad things called germs that get into your body and make you sick. Ah? He's trying to get doctors to wash their hands. What is this guy? Crazy? Teeny, tiny, invisible? What do you call it? Uh-uh, germs? Huh? What? Now, cut to the 20th century. Last week, as a matter of fact, before I got dragged into this hellhole. I go in to order a burger in this fast food joint, and the guy drops it on the floor. Jim, he picks it up, he wipes it off, he hands it to me like it's all OK. "What about the germs?" I say. He says, "I don't believe in germs. Germs is just a plot they made up so they can sell you disinfectants and soaps." Now he's crazy, right? See?
jamny
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Oh great. Now you've created a zombie virus.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/10/1001027-rabies-influenza-zombie-virus-science/
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LarryAllen'sJockstrap
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Supposedely strains have been as high as a 90% mortality rate in the past. This current strain is at roughly 60% in Africa. Talking heads predicted those receiving treatment at a modern faciliity (I.e., US hospital) would most likely be right around a 50% mortality rate, if not a little less.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
And so it begins.
Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
Okay, the experimental serum that is working on the 2 Americans is ZMapp, developed by a biotech firm in San Diego, USA.BREAKING NEWS: WE'RE NOT DOOMED!
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/04/health/experimental-ebola-serum/index.html?hpt=hp_inthenews
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Ditka Butkus
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Why in hell are we letting people travelling from west africa to enter the US? Are wanting to thin the herd.
joffer
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Rohn Jambo
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There is a big community of Liberians (?) in Minnesotta and they said everyone is ordering plane tickets to get their relatives out of the country.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
If I catch Ebola and it ####s up my Fantasy Football Season , I'm going to be pissed.
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