Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Is there a particular reason you seem to be favoring the used S?
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Electric Cars (Tesla and Others) (3 Viewers)
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FairWarning
Footballguy
I know nothing about these cars. How long does it take for a full charge? What does it cost to charge away from home?
dkp993
Footballguy
jb1020
Footballguy
Tons of variables here.
Home charging on a regular 110 outlet is slow, but some people can make it work. It puts 4-5 miles per hour back on your car.
I think most people that get an EV put a 240 volt outlet (like an oven or dryer plug) in the garage. Thats the route I went. It puts 29-30 miles per hour back on your car. So with little planning I can have a full charge every morning assuming I plug it in at night. I plug in about every 2-3 days if I'm using mine normally. I drive about 50 miles a day.
My electric company chargers .1024 per kWh. There's an app you can buy to track everything. My last charge at home added 140 miles, costs was $4.10.
Super Charging is fast and getting faster. I only use it on road trips though. I don't know the exact costs, but its about 2-3 times the cost of charging at home. I think my typical session runs about 35-40 minutes and I typically get 200+ miles back on. Usually about $8 or so. The lower your battery is the faster it chargers at the super charger.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Yeah, I charge 3 times a week. Typically every Tues and Thurs and then 1 time during the weekend. If you buy a used S through Tesla, it comes with free supercharging. Which is a nice option to have.
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Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
120 charges about 3 mph. 240 about 30 mph. Some of the superchargers are charging 300-400 mph. The one nearest my office CAN hit 300. It is in the 200-250 range typically. You can see a lot of variability depending on how many people are using them at any point in time.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Yes. I get that. It's the reason I went the way I did. But I didn't see much difference between the two on my normal commute. If you're hitting 200 miles/trip it seems like, practically speaking, you'd be better off going with the 3.
Foosball God
Foos
A bit of both. Depending on how you drive you might have additional range sucked up, especially if it is mostly highway driving without much regenerative braking. I think you'll want and sometimes need the extra cushion.
For the miles I would be concerned a bit for a couple of reasons, one is battery degradation, I don't know that we have a real good baseline on what that will look like, and then if you are really putting the miles on it like that then I would think resale is going to be not good, doubly so if you don't have updated hardware.
Foosball God
Foos
If you buy Tesla's wall charger and put it on a 50/60 amp breaker you can get up to 40mph. Supercharging costs are dependent on the station. Some places will let you charge for free, others will charge you.
dkp993
Footballguy
Good info. Thanks. The commutes are all highway with pockets of traffic and I typically am the set it at 80mph type guy. Sounds like both are mileage killers.
Not a Tesla owner but I did see an article yesterday that the service had been down for a few hours over Labor Day weekend. However, the article indicated it was only down for a few hours, so maybe try rebooting your phone (though you probably tried that)?
whoknew
Footballguy
Thanks. Restarting didn't work but I just logged out of the app and then back in and it finally updated. I reckon I should have thought about that first.
I'm kind of a moron.
SWC
Bromigo
i got me the tesla app but i dont have a tesla so i just keep connecting to other peoples cars and making them play conway twitty at full blast right when they start em up its just a thing i do to get a chuckle out of myself and brohans it works who doesnt love ole conway no one thats who take that to the bank bromigos
SWC
Bromigo
i never said they were mad brohan your own mind made that part up so now i am questioning your loyalty to the great conway and if i were you i would sit down and have a talk with myself about what my priorities in life are take that to the bank brohan
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
Anyone else following the Nurburgring excitement? I don't really think it matters what time 'Plaid' Model S eventually clocks (as long as it's competitive), it's great PR to be talked about as a competitive track challenger to Porsche. Especially considering Model S beats the Taycan on (almost) every other possible measurement. (Premium interior is arguably better in the Taycan)
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Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
Foosball God
Foos
The problem is that you'll sit down and order and then have to run out to move your car before you start getting idle fees.new Austin Supercharger open. much better spot and 16 stalls. 5 minute walk to Baby Acapulco's for lunch.
Sideshow Bob
Footballguy
Sideshow Bob
Footballguy
I know what you mean, though.
I'll occasionally go to the charger nearest my office over lunch. It's a 5 minute walk to the restaurant I hit, and it's a near-sprint to finish and walk back before the charge is complete.
I'll occasionally go to the charger nearest my office over lunch. It's a 5 minute walk to the restaurant I hit, and it's a near-sprint to finish and walk back before the charge is complete.
Foosball God
Foos
What would be awesome is if you could use the summon feature to unplug and find an open spot while you were in the restaurant eating lunch.
Sideshow Bob
Footballguy
I've contemplated whether Postmates would deliver directly to my car.
joffer
Footballguy
didn't today. station has to be half full i believe and i usually go when i'm pretty low, so i don't run out of time.
whoknew
Footballguy
Where is it?new Austin Supercharger open. much better spot and 16 stalls
The purple at Baby A's is great.
joffer
Footballguy
Johnny Rock
Footballguy
joffer
Footballguy
Johnny Rock
Footballguy
Thanks. How much to charge at a Supercharger? If free to Tesla owners who is paying that bill, Tesla?
joffer
Footballguy
Sideshow Bob
Footballguy
You need to check what's being offered at any specific point in time. I bought after 2017, but I bought used when they were still giving free supercharging for used cars.
I believe they recently swapped those. I believe they went back to including free supercharging for new S and X models and no longer including it with used models.
I believe they recently swapped those. I believe they went back to including free supercharging for new S and X models and no longer including it with used models.
SWC
Bromigo
the other day a guy asked me to charge his tesler so i said what the hell i am down for anything once and i went out in the lot and ran at it pretending i was a buffalo and it just sat there i was thinking something would happen or whatever but nada so basically i do not get the hype but hey it was cool gettin my old totonka on for a little bit over lunch just sorta felt good take that to the bank bromigos
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
Shoot_Me_Now
Footballguy
Go enjoy your car bud, you have another three or four weeks until you can gloat about FCF. Oh and there's a stock thread down the hall.
D-Day
Footballguy
Went to Europe a couple of weeks ago, and flew into Amsterdam (boy, are my arms tired... bada bing). Went to get a taxi and it seemed about 40% of the taxis were Teslas. I was bummed when I had to get into a Mercedes. I just thought it was interesting how many of the taxis were Teslas, and how well dressed the drivers were.
Nugget
Footballguy
Tesla changing deposit structure
Not sure when the next earnings call is - seems like it should be soon.
Ford should be releasing details on an electric crossover in about a month.
Not sure when the next earnings call is - seems like it should be soon.
Ford should be releasing details on an electric crossover in about a month.
Jobber
Footballguy
I like the generic/standard charging plugs the whole industry (except Tesla?) use. That's something for me to think about. Case in point, I'm starting to slightly lean toward a Bolt vs a Tesla for about $10k less cost, plus the standard plug it uses. So I know the Bolt will charge on all of the normal non-Tesla chargers, which will eventually be more plentiful/common than Tesla.Nugget said:
And given that the Bolt has similar range as a Model 3, and I'm more into a Point A to Point B guy, it seems like a better fit. Can someone talk me off the ledge here?
Foosball God
Foos
dkp993
Footballguy
I think the biggest argument is really how different those 2 cars are. Outside of being electric and having similar range they couldn’t be more different imo. They are not direct competitors in the way say a BMW 3 series is to and Audi A4.
jb1020
Footballguy
I sweated over where would I charge when I'm out before I bought the Model 3. Turns out 99 % of my charging takes place in my garage.
I'm thinking it will be a while before non tesla fast chargers will be more prevalent than tesla super chargers. I haven't really looked into that though. SC's seem to have a nice spread and still growing.
Nugget
Footballguy
Tesla crushes the Super Charging stations - they have over 1600 vs Electrify America @ 450
The VW settlement should speed the growth of their system, but I'd still guess it is 3 years out before they have more than the Tesla network.
matttyl
Footballguy
Tesla proved its critics wrong in its latest set of financial results, unveiling an unexpected profit and record car deliveries, and announcing that it is ahead of schedule on a new model and a new plant.
The company made $1.86 (£1.44) per share in the third quarter, smashing analysts’ forecasts for a loss. It delivered 97,000 cars to customers in the period to 30 September, comfortably surpassing the previous record of 95,356.
Tesla now expects to launch the Model Y, an all-electric SUV, by the summer of 2020, months earlier than originally planned, and its new “gigafactory” in Shanghai has already started trial production. Manufacturing in China enables the carmaker to avoid import duties and offer lower prices in one of its most important markets.
The company made $1.86 (£1.44) per share in the third quarter, smashing analysts’ forecasts for a loss. It delivered 97,000 cars to customers in the period to 30 September, comfortably surpassing the previous record of 95,356.
Tesla now expects to launch the Model Y, an all-electric SUV, by the summer of 2020, months earlier than originally planned, and its new “gigafactory” in Shanghai has already started trial production. Manufacturing in China enables the carmaker to avoid import duties and offer lower prices in one of its most important markets.
culdeus
Footballguy
jb1020
Footballguy
You guys seen the trick to push your software update thru? Go to the software menu in the car and under "software update preference" tap the "advanced" button 5 times and it pulls the most recent update.
Worked on my 3 this morning. The one pedal driving is pretty slick. Regen Braking is increased big time. Definitely feels like at least 5% more power.
Still freaking love this car.
Worked on my 3 this morning. The one pedal driving is pretty slick. Regen Braking is increased big time. Definitely feels like at least 5% more power.
Still freaking love this car.
Foosball God
Foos
hmm, I'll have to try that this morning. You mean the regen braking is even stronger? I love mine, how much of a difference is it?
jb1020
Footballguy
Much stronger. Maybe 25-30% more? I like it though. I've seen the term "one pedal driving" and assuming you don't have to brake completely unexpectedly it truly is one pedal. You coast to lights and stop signs and hen it goes into the hold mode.
I guess thats how they get a bump the range.
