Electric Cars (Tesla and Others) (2 Viewers)

[the moops]

Charging at home is a game changer. Once you get used to powering your vehicle by simply plugging in every third day or so, going back to an ICE vehicle and the hassle of gas stations is a deal breaker.

We have one older ICE van and fortunately we don't need to fill it up too often, but every damn time I have to go the gas station it feels so inconvenient and annoying

 

[Psychopav]

According the intermet, Illinois has more EVs per 100,000 residents than Texas. Neither state is in the top 15 though

Mapped: Electric Vehicles Per Capita by U.S. State

See which U.S. states lead in electric vehicle registrations per capita, with California far ahead of the pack in 2023.

www.visualcapitalist.com

Thanks for sharing this @the moops . Astonishing that we're still at such a low adoption rate nationwide. I don't understand why it's so hard for Americans (and policy makers) to understand how much cheaper renewable energy generation and electric power is than the entire process that comes with extracting and delivering fossil based fuels. It's the biggest no brainer in the history of no brainers, yet some folks are still reluctant.

That article is 2 years old but even with 2025 numbers the per capita adoption rate is still very low.

Removing the incentives to install L2 charging stations, especially the rebates in low income and urban areas, doesn't help.

 

[BassNBrew]

According the intermet, Illinois has more EVs per 100,000 residents than Texas. Neither state is in the top 15 though

Mapped: Electric Vehicles Per Capita by U.S. State

See which U.S. states lead in electric vehicle registrations per capita, with California far ahead of the pack in 2023.

www.visualcapitalist.com

Thanks for sharing this @the moops . Astonishing that we're still at such a low adoption rate nationwide. I don't understand why it's so hard for Americans (and policy makers) to understand how much cheaper renewable energy generation and electric power is than the entire process that comes with extracting and delivering fossil based fuels. It's the biggest no brainer in the history of no brainers, yet some folks are still reluctant.

Rented a car this week in CO. First time I've pumped gas in over a year. Funny thing was I left the car running a walked away several times. Also everyon hated riding with me as I've forgotten how to use a brake pedal.

 

[Tick]

Less than a week left for tax credit. Q4 likely to sell half as many EVs as Q3. Inventories are dropping, production is getting scaled back, and investment is dropping short term (2026). Tesla is likely to gain market share but in a shrinking EV market. Next year is down likely 25%+ over 2025 levels for EV sales. Curious to see if buyers go back to ICE or stay on the sidelines.

I assume many will sit tight and weather the storm for another 3.5 years. It should also push prices lower and production efficiency higher in theory.

Really curious to see what price the Slate ends up at.

 

[Tick]

According the intermet, Illinois has more EVs per 100,000 residents than Texas. Neither state is in the top 15 though

Mapped: Electric Vehicles Per Capita by U.S. State

See which U.S. states lead in electric vehicle registrations per capita, with California far ahead of the pack in 2023.

www.visualcapitalist.com

Thanks for sharing this @the moops . Astonishing that we're still at such a low adoption rate nationwide. I don't understand why it's so hard for Americans (and policy makers) to understand how much cheaper renewable energy generation and electric power is than the entire process that comes with extracting and delivering fossil based fuels. It's the biggest no brainer in the history of no brainers, yet some folks are still reluctant.

In my opinion, politicization didn't help. Everyone's favorite Facebook uncle is still posting every article they see spouting 1986 stats about how EVs are actually worse for the environment and are completely unreliable.

 

[Nugget]

Less than a week left for tax credit. Q4 likely to sell half as many EVs as Q3. Inventories are dropping, production is getting scaled back, and investment is dropping short term (2026). Tesla is likely to gain market share but in a shrinking EV market. Next year is down likely 25%+ over 2025 levels for EV sales. Curious to see if buyers go back to ICE or stay on the sidelines.

I assume many will sit tight and weather the storm for another 3.5 years. It should also push prices lower and production efficiency higher in theory.

Really curious to see what price the Slate ends up at.

Really curious to see if Slate really launches.

Nissan Ariya cancelled for 2026 Model Year
Honda Ends Production of Acura ZDX
VW to pause production
GM cuts output, delays work at major EV factories, citing weak demand
Hyundai pauses production on weak demand

GF leased a 2024 MachE - under $300 month with zero down/taxes included/12k miles year. This is her 4th EV, I'm on my third. We have noticed more public charges seem to be out of order and some have been for quite a while - potential future concern. Home charging is still great for 95% of our needs.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Less than a week left for tax credit. Q4 likely to sell half as many EVs as Q3. Inventories are dropping, production is getting scaled back, and investment is dropping short term (2026). Tesla is likely to gain market share but in a shrinking EV market. Next year is down likely 25%+ over 2025 levels for EV sales. Curious to see if buyers go back to ICE or stay on the sidelines.

I assume many will sit tight and weather the storm for another 3.5 years. It should also push prices lower and production efficiency higher in theory.

Really curious to see what price the Slate ends up at.

Never heard of them, but I like what the EV truck concept

 

[Kanil]

I'm waiting to see the Kia EV8. Still have 18 months until my kid is 16 and takes over my current car and I get to buy a new one. Hopefully the EV8 is as sexy as promised!

 

[Psychopav]

The 2026 Hyundai IONIQ 5 gets a big price cut and now starts at just $35,000

The IONIQ 5 is coming off its best third-quarter sales to date after surging 90% year-over-year (YOY), with nearly 22,000 units sold. Through September, Hyundai has sold 41,091 IONIQ 5 models in the US, a 35% increase compared to the same period in 2024.

 

[Dezbelief]

Who Gets a Ticket When a Waymo Does Wrong and Nobody Is in the Robotaxi to Cite?

A Waymo robotaxi pulled an illegal maneuver in front of the police, but with no one inside, who gets the ticket?

www.motortrend.com

"The illegal U-turn occurred in the last few days of September, according to the Associated Press, and when the San Bruno officers working a DUI enforcement operation saw it happen, they did their duty to pull over the car. Of course, being a robotaxi, there wasn’t anyone behind the wheel, and the Waymo Jaguar had no occupants inside to even speak to. In a Facebook post by the San Bruno police, it admits the scenario “was a first” for their officers, but at least the car did pull over. Of course, there was no one for those officers to cite for the transgression. In its FB post, the police representative stated, “Since there was no human driver, a ticket couldn’t be issued (our citation books don’t have a box for ‘robot’).” That outcome might irritate humans who have received tickets for similar offenses, but that's the way it is—at least for now."

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Any Tesla-bros out there tried FSD lately? I signed on for the subscription for September due to some roadtrips we had planned and was pleasantly surprised at how much better it was than a year ago. We have a 21 Model Y with HW3 if that makes any difference.

 

[fatness]

Tesla's Full Self-Driving software under investigation after railroad incidents

NBC News reported last month that Tesla vehicles using Full Self-Driving software sometimes fail to stop for train tracks.

www.nbcphiladelphia.com

NHTSA said it was launching the investigation of Tesla’s Full Self-Driving software after receiving complaints from drivers, including reports of vehicles driving through red lights or on the wrong side of the road. The agency said the investigation relates to all Tesla vehicles equipped with FSD, or 2.9 million vehicles. The agency said its investigation would look at the software’s performance at railroad crossings, which was the subject of an NBC News investigation published in September. “While the behaviors under investigation appear to occur most frequently at intersections, NHTSA’s investigation will encompass any other types of situations in which this behavior may arise, such as when traveling adjacent to a lane of opposing traffic or when approaching railroad crossings,” NHTSA said in a three-page summary.

NBC News’ investigation reported that Tesla vehicles using the FSD software sometimes fail to stop for train tracks or otherwise mishandle situations at rail crossings, including when red lights are flashing and gate arms are lowering, according to Tesla drivers and videos they’ve taken. Based on the report, two senators had called on NHTSA to begin an investigation. In its announcement Thursday, NHTSA said it would look into whether the system gives drivers enough time to respond to FSD’s errors. It said that in some reported incidents, a Tesla vehicle provided “little notice to a driver or opportunity to intervene.”

 

[culdeus]

Any Tesla-bros out there tried FSD lately? I signed on for the subscription for September due to some roadtrips we had planned and was pleasantly surprised at how much better it was than a year ago. We have a 21 Model Y with HW3 if that makes any difference.

Only when they do trials on it. The last revision was way too lane change happy for me but the side street were great. FSD and AP each follow further than the distance that people think is allowable and will try to cut you off.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

I was visiting my "kids" in San Francisco last weekend and we paid for a Waymo ride from my daughter's apartment to Fisherman's Wharf, a 35 minute ride with a lot of traffic.
There were screens in the front and back where you could see every potential moving obstacle (vehicles, scooters, pedestrians, etc).
It drove flawlessly. The only exception was at a 4 way stop, if it was the Waymo's turn and the other driver jumped ahead, it let them go first.
We even encountered a moving truck that was parked on the wrong side of the road and it got around it safely.
I was very impressed.

 

[culdeus]

Someone sideswiped my wife's M3 and it is probably a coin flip if it gets totaled. Not sure where to go from here. Don't need a long hauler and would look at decent used options, including BMW I4 type stuff.

 

[fatness]

According to Cox Automotive’s latest EV sales report, Tesla sold just 5,385 Cybertrucks in the third quarter, down 62.6% from a year earlier. The decline came as the broader U.S. EV market posted its strongest quarter on record, with sales up nearly 30% to more than 438,000 vehicles. Ford sold almost twice as many electric F-150 Lightning trucks in the same quarter, while even Chevrolet’s fledgling Silverado EV and Rivian’s R1T gained ground.

Tesla Cybertruck sales tanked 62% in a single quarter

The Cybertruck comparison is slightly distorted by timing — Q3 2024 captured the truck’s early ramp — but even adjusting for that, deliveries have slowed, and orders have thinned. And the sales drop came even as buyers rushed to lock in federal EV tax credits before they expired in late September, a policy boost that's now in the rearview mirror.
Tesla still commands about 41% of the EV market, but its share has slipped from nearly half last year — and the company’s stainless-steel pickup is the biggest drag on its lead. The company’s core models still move volume, but its more ambitious projects — from the Cybertruck to the long-promised robotaxi — are proving harder to scale than to hype.

 

[RCon]

GF leased a 2024 MachE - under $300 month with zero down/taxes included/12k miles year. This is her 4th EV, I'm on my third. We have noticed more public charges seem to be out of order and some have been for quite a while - potential future concern. Home charging is still great for 95% of our needs.

Damn. I'd do that tomorrow if I could get that deal.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Someone sideswiped my wife's M3 and it is probably a coin flip if it gets totaled. Not sure where to go from here. Don't need a long hauler and would look at decent used options, including BMW I4 type stuff.

Do weekend test drives if you can. Dollars to donuts you're gonna hate the software on anything non-tesla right now. The other manufacturers are still catching up on software control.

 

[Instinctive]

Someone sideswiped my wife's M3 and it is probably a coin flip if it gets totaled. Not sure where to go from here. Don't need a long hauler and would look at decent used options, including BMW I4 type stuff.

Do weekend test drives if you can. Dollars to donuts you're gonna hate the software on anything non-tesla right now. The other manufacturers are still catching up on software control.

Worth deciding if you care about that. I think most or all have Android Auto and car play and that's all I've ever wanted.

 

[BassNBrew]

Someone sideswiped my wife's M3 and it is probably a coin flip if it gets totaled. Not sure where to go from here. Don't need a long hauler and would look at decent used options, including BMW I4 type stuff.

Do weekend test drives if you can. Dollars to donuts you're gonna hate the software on anything non-tesla right now. The other manufacturers are still catching up on software control.

Have you driven a Rivian?

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Someone sideswiped my wife's M3 and it is probably a coin flip if it gets totaled. Not sure where to go from here. Don't need a long hauler and would look at decent used options, including BMW I4 type stuff.

Do weekend test drives if you can. Dollars to donuts you're gonna hate the software on anything non-tesla right now. The other manufacturers are still catching up on software control.

Have you driven a Rivian?

I have not. Before we bought the model Y, we had a Kia Niro. It was terrible. While we were looking for a new EV, we test drove quite a few other brands. Hyundai, Ford, GMC and Toyota all had sub-par software experiences. Didn't have access to Rivian or Lucid. My guess is that companies that start as EV only technology will have superior software.

 

[Instinctive]

Someone sideswiped my wife's M3 and it is probably a coin flip if it gets totaled. Not sure where to go from here. Don't need a long hauler and would look at decent used options, including BMW I4 type stuff.

Do weekend test drives if you can. Dollars to donuts you're gonna hate the software on anything non-tesla right now. The other manufacturers are still catching up on software control.

Have you driven a Rivian?

I have not. Before we bought the model Y, we had a Kia Niro. It was terrible. While we were looking for a new EV, we test drove quite a few other brands. Hyundai, Ford, GMC and Toyota all had sub-par software experiences. Didn't have access to Rivian or Lucid. My guess is that companies that start as EV only technology will have superior software.

I do love my Lucid. Would be happy to answer anything about it. There are some minor annoyances with it but it is such a nice drive that outweighs everything else.

 

[eoMMan]

For you guys charging at home, have you kept track of how much your monthly electricity bill has gone up?

For charging stations away from the home, how much are they typically charging (pun intended) for a full car charge?

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Someone sideswiped my wife's M3 and it is probably a coin flip if it gets totaled. Not sure where to go from here. Don't need a long hauler and would look at decent used options, including BMW I4 type stuff.

Do weekend test drives if you can. Dollars to donuts you're gonna hate the software on anything non-tesla right now. The other manufacturers are still catching up on software control.

Have you driven a Rivian?

I have not. Before we bought the model Y, we had a Kia Niro. It was terrible. While we were looking for a new EV, we test drove quite a few other brands. Hyundai, Ford, GMC and Toyota all had sub-par software experiences. Didn't have access to Rivian or Lucid. My guess is that companies that start as EV only technology will have superior software.

I do love my Lucid. Would be happy to answer anything about it. There are some minor annoyances with it but it is such a nice drive that outweighs everything else.

I think my biggest question revolves around the charging network. Having the Tesla infrastructure has been wonderful on road trips. We were range anxious to begin with, even with the Kia, but now with the Tesla, we don't worry about it at all. It helps we have more range, but the Tesla network is far superior to the Chargepoint/EA/EVgo stuff out there.

 

[eoMMan]

Someone sideswiped my wife's M3 and it is probably a coin flip if it gets totaled. Not sure where to go from here. Don't need a long hauler and would look at decent used options, including BMW I4 type stuff.

Do weekend test drives if you can. Dollars to donuts you're gonna hate the software on anything non-tesla right now. The other manufacturers are still catching up on software control.

Have you driven a Rivian?

I have not. Before we bought the model Y, we had a Kia Niro. It was terrible. While we were looking for a new EV, we test drove quite a few other brands. Hyundai, Ford, GMC and Toyota all had sub-par software experiences. Didn't have access to Rivian or Lucid. My guess is that companies that start as EV only technology will have superior software.

I do love my Lucid. Would be happy to answer anything about it. There are some minor annoyances with it but it is such a nice drive that outweighs everything else.

I've been seeing more and more Lucids in the Naples, FL area. Tons of Teslas too, obviously.

 

[BassNBrew]

Someone sideswiped my wife's M3 and it is probably a coin flip if it gets totaled. Not sure where to go from here. Don't need a long hauler and would look at decent used options, including BMW I4 type stuff.

Do weekend test drives if you can. Dollars to donuts you're gonna hate the software on anything non-tesla right now. The other manufacturers are still catching up on software control.

Have you driven a Rivian?

I have not. Before we bought the model Y, we had a Kia Niro. It was terrible. While we were looking for a new EV, we test drove quite a few other brands. Hyundai, Ford, GMC and Toyota all had sub-par software experiences. Didn't have access to Rivian or Lucid. My guess is that companies that start as EV only technology will have superior software.

Tesla obviously way ahead in FSD, but I prefer the Rivian interface.

 

[BassNBrew]

Someone sideswiped my wife's M3 and it is probably a coin flip if it gets totaled. Not sure where to go from here. Don't need a long hauler and would look at decent used options, including BMW I4 type stuff.

Do weekend test drives if you can. Dollars to donuts you're gonna hate the software on anything non-tesla right now. The other manufacturers are still catching up on software control.

Have you driven a Rivian?

I have not. Before we bought the model Y, we had a Kia Niro. It was terrible. While we were looking for a new EV, we test drove quite a few other brands. Hyundai, Ford, GMC and Toyota all had sub-par software experiences. Didn't have access to Rivian or Lucid. My guess is that companies that start as EV only technology will have superior software.

I do love my Lucid. Would be happy to answer anything about it. There are some minor annoyances with it but it is such a nice drive that outweighs everything else.

I think my biggest question revolves around the charging network. Having the Tesla infrastructure has been wonderful on road trips. We were range anxious to begin with, even with the Kia, but now with the Tesla, we don't worry about it at all. It helps we have more range, but the Tesla network is far superior to the Chargepoint/EA/EVgo stuff out there.

The following vehicle manufacturers have access to Tesla NACS Superchargers:

• Acura
• Audi
• Ford
• General Motors (GM)
• Genesis
• Honda
• Hyundai
• JLR
• Kia
• Lucid
• Mercedes-Benz
• Nissan
• Polestar
• Porsche
• Rivian
• Volvo

 

[Bob Sacamano]

For you guys charging at home, have you kept track of how much your monthly electricity bill has gone up?

For charging stations away from the home, how much are they typically charging (pun intended) for a full car charge?

I don't drive enough anymore to bother tracking. When I was commuting every day, I generally charged twice a week with an occasional need for a third. That was about $35/mo. I also have old tech, so not sure how well that translates to the newer cars.

Free supercharging here, so I actually have no concept what it costs.

 

[the moops]

I so wish there was minivan EV option here in the states. Can't figure out why there isn't. It is the perfect soccer mom vehicle.

 

[gianmarco]

I so wish there was minivan EV option here in the states. Can't figure out why there isn't. It is the perfect soccer mom vehicle.

ID. Buzz

 

[culdeus]

For you guys charging at home, have you kept track of how much your monthly electricity bill has gone up?

For charging stations away from the home, how much are they typically charging (pun intended) for a full car charge?

This is going to be an it depends question. If you know your per kwh charge at home and the kwh usage then that will tell you what you need. Charging at somewhere between 33 and 50 at DCFC stations will approach the cost of gas.

 

[thecatch]

For you guys charging at home, have you kept track of how much your monthly electricity bill has gone up?

For charging stations away from the home, how much are they typically charging (pun intended) for a full car charge?

About $60/month for me in CA, and that's using discounted overnight charging rates. Haven't charged away from home, and probably won't - we use our ICE vehicle for longer trips.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

For you guys charging at home, have you kept track of how much your monthly electricity bill has gone up?

For charging stations away from the home, how much are they typically charging (pun intended) for a full car charge?

Around NC, I've seen anywhere from .27 to .35 per KWh. In general, if I'm charging to 80% battery capacity it'll cost me around $20 for an 80% full charge (around 220 miles range) and take about 20min or so.

 

[BassNBrew]

For you guys charging at home, have you kept track of how much your monthly electricity bill has gone up?

For charging stations away from the home, how much are they typically charging (pun intended) for a full car charge?

Around NC, I've seen anywhere from .27 to .35 per KWh. In general, if I'm charging to 80% battery capacity it'll cost me around $20 for an 80% full charge (around 220 miles range) and take about 20min or so.

Hmmm....I've been paying .45 to .55 for level one and free to .13 for level 2. No need for a home charger as the truck won't fit in the garage and using the level 2 across the street nets me not having to worry about 2 hour parking limits. Actually one of the two stalls has been out of order for 6 months so I just "plug" in and use it as my personal parking spot.

 

[Nugget]

At home charging is around a penny per mile. My pricing at home is 0.033 for Super off peak or 0.067 for normal off peak. I have my phone app set to start at midnight - mostly done by 6am. only expensive time is 4pm-8pm during the week.

On the road in KS, IA, MO - charging is between .35/.55 per KWH - so average about 0.15/mile.

ETA - Electric bill is up about $15/$20 month. Add $25 month for on the road charging. Was paying $250/month for gas.

 

[Psychopav]

At home charging is around a penny per mile. My pricing at home is 0.033 for Super off peak or 0.067 for normal off peak. I have my phone app set to start at midnight - mostly done by 6am. only expensive time is 4pm-8pm during the week.

On the road in KS, IA, MO - charging is between .35/.55 per KWH - so average about 0.15/mile.

ETA - Electric bill is up about $15/$20 month. Add $25 month for on the road charging. Was paying $250/month for gas.

Those are some sexy home electricity prices. What state do you live in?

 

[Nugget]

At home charging is around a penny per mile. My pricing at home is 0.033 for Super off peak or 0.067 for normal off peak. I have my phone app set to start at midnight - mostly done by 6am. only expensive time is 4pm-8pm during the week.

On the road in KS, IA, MO - charging is between .35/.55 per KWH - so average about 0.15/mile.

ETA - Electric bill is up about $15/$20 month. Add $25 month for on the road charging. Was paying $250/month for gas.

Those are some sexy home electricity prices. What state do you live in?

Kansas - Nights and Weekends Plan

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

At home charging is around a penny per mile. My pricing at home is 0.033 for Super off peak or 0.067 for normal off peak. I have my phone app set to start at midnight - mostly done by 6am. only expensive time is 4pm-8pm during the week.

On the road in KS, IA, MO - charging is between .35/.55 per KWH - so average about 0.15/mile.

ETA - Electric bill is up about $15/$20 month. Add $25 month for on the road charging. Was paying $250/month for gas.

Our utility (Duke Energy) has just introduced peak/off-peak pricing. Currently, we pay .01185 / KWh. With the new pricing, it's .075 for super off peak and .105 for off peak with super off peak running from 1am to 6am. That's plenty of time to charge the MYLR with our level 2 charger at home. I need to run the numbers on if it makes sense to switch or not. For reference, on-peak rates are from 6PM to 9PM and are .445 per KWh.

But yeah, our home electric bill is generally $20-25 more a month. We roadtrip infrequently, and have only spent ~$100 so far in 2025 on Supercharging.

 

[the moops]

I so wish there was minivan EV option here in the states. Can't figure out why there isn't. It is the perfect soccer mom vehicle.

ID. Buzz

Overpriced and terrible range

 

[heckmanm]

For you guys charging at home, have you kept track of how much your monthly electricity bill has gone up?

For charging stations away from the home, how much are they typically charging (pun intended) for a full car charge?

My average has been about $22/month at home, averaging just under 670 miles driven. So about 3 cents per mile

 

[culdeus]

The night plan I have at 5c and yes the rest of the power is higher but 65% of my electric is at night and we super cool the house at that rate which doesn't suck..

 

[Instinctive]

I get a big credit for consistently being between 1000 and 1500 kwh so I check a couple times a month and will drive more aggressively and charge a little more towards the end in winter so I hit it lol

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I so wish there was minivan EV option here in the states. Can't figure out why there isn't. It is the perfect soccer mom vehicle.

3 row EVs are the next big segment where there are tons coming out soon all around the same time.

I don't know if any are true minivans but a bunch at least that are SUVs that look exactly like minivans for everything except the sliding doors. Lucid Gravity, for instance.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Hoping Lucid gets their software completely ironed out and the 3-4 y-o versions become a little more affordable

 

[the moops]

I so wish there was minivan EV option here in the states. Can't figure out why there isn't. It is the perfect soccer mom vehicle.

3 row EVs are the next big segment where there are tons coming out soon all around the same time.

I don't know if any are true minivans but a bunch at least that are SUVs that look exactly like minivans for everything except the sliding doors. Lucid Gravity, for instance.

I have a minivan (****ty Dodge Caravan) but I love this thing. Seats fold down and I can fit like 6 sheets of plywood in the thing. I would buy an EV version of this thing tomorrow of it was available.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I so wish there was minivan EV option here in the states. Can't figure out why there isn't. It is the perfect soccer mom vehicle.

3 row EVs are the next big segment where there are tons coming out soon all around the same time.

I don't know if any are true minivans but a bunch at least that are SUVs that look exactly like minivans for everything except the sliding doors. Lucid Gravity, for instance.

I have a minivan (****ty Dodge Caravan) but I love this thing. Seats fold down and I can fit like 6 sheets of plywood in the thing. I would buy an EV version of this thing tomorrow of it was available.

Yes ditto. I actually owned the Pacifica plug in hybrid a few years ago but it was the first year and we had to lemon law it after it was in the| shop for over 6 months of the first year of ownership. And when we went to try and get our garage door opener out of the vehicle they said we weren't allowed to touch it as it was roped off with "danger high voltage do not touch" signs :O

But it was pretty sweet when we actually got to use it.

 

[culdeus]

I so wish there was minivan EV option here in the states. Can't figure out why there isn't. It is the perfect soccer mom vehicle.

3 row EVs are the next big segment where there are tons coming out soon all around the same time.

I don't know if any are true minivans but a bunch at least that are SUVs that look exactly like minivans for everything except the sliding doors. Lucid Gravity, for instance.

The ID buzz is a minivan I would say

 

[Ron Swanson]

Looking forward to the Scout.

www.scoutmotors.com

 

[nysfl2]

For you guys charging at home, have you kept track of how much your monthly electricity bill has gone up?

For charging stations away from the home, how much are they typically charging (pun intended) for a full car charge?

On a per-mile basis, I've calculated that charging at home is about 1/3 the cost of gas in Michigan (nights and weekends plan).

On the road, prices can vary a lot from station to station. On average, it's probably pretty close to the same as the price of gas, maybe still a little cheaper.

 

[Tick]

For you guys charging at home, have you kept track of how much your monthly electricity bill has gone up?

For charging stations away from the home, how much are they typically charging (pun intended) for a full car charge?

On a per-mile basis, I've calculated that charging at home is about 1/3 the cost of gas in Michigan (nights and weekends plan).

On the road, prices can vary a lot from station to station. On average, it's probably pretty close to the same as the price of gas, maybe still a little cheaper.

NYT just had a calculator for costs in each state for EV vs. hybrid vs. gas.

How Much It Costs to Drive an E.V. and a Gas Car in Every State

Charging an electric car battery is usually cheaper than going to the gas pump. But it depends on where you live.

www.nytimes.com

They also have a total cost comparison tool:

Electric vs. Gas Car Calculator: Which Is the Better Deal?

There’s no more federal subsidy. But our calculator lets you see if an E.V. might still be cheaper in the long-run.

www.nytimes.com

I don't know if these requires a subscription.