Eric Cantor defeated by David Brat (1 Viewer)

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Brat's website is overloaded.

Apparently Cantor was too liberal

 

[Abraham]

Mma?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Holy ####.

Widely speculated that this will lead Republicans to run, not walk, from any hint of immigration reform now.

And so much for the Tea Party is dead.

 

[whoknew]

Tim is going to erupt.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) lost to tea party primary challenger David Brat in the Republican primary on Tuesday.

The race was called at about 8:05 p.m. Cantor lost to primary challenger David Brat.

Who is Brat? He is an economics professor at Randolph-Macon College. Brat was regarded as a long shot candidate but Cantor's campaign still spent over $1 million on advertising to stress that the top House Republican is a "strong conservative."

Cantor's campaign also sent out mailers arguing that he's largely responsible for blocking immigration reform, signs, perhaps, that Brat seemed like more of a threat than he appeared publicly.

Hard to see how this does anything other than move Republican House members even further to the right.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Ahhhhhh-haha. Couldn't have happened to a bigger tool.

This is not great news for those GOPers trying to reinvent their party as some sort of moderate influence before it's too late (which it probably already is).

No majority leader has ever lost in a primary before. Nice going, Eric!

 

[Sarnoff]

Read somewhere that Congressional approval was down near like 11%, but that incumbents won 99% of their primaries.

Oops.

 

[joffer]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

 

[Trey]

It's fascinating because this type of passion in off years is going to push the GOP further right which in turn is going to completely #### them in presidential years.

 

[Aerial Assault]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

 

[Slapdash]

Incredible that even this ######## is too liberal for some...

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Wow.

 

[Slapdash]

Tim is going to erupt.

I guess this means the Tea Party isn't repudiated.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

It's fascinating because this type of passion in off years is going to push the GOP further right which in turn is going to completely #### them in presidential years.

Can't remember who wrote it (maybe the guys at Brookings?), but there's a pretty sane argument making the rounds that we're in for an extended period of divided government with Congressional Republicans doing very well in midterm elections -- where the intensity gap between the GOP and Dems is the biggest -- but, as you point out, that the imperative to move rightward and satisfy the intensely conservative off-cycle voters will make them unelectable at the Presidential level.

It probably won't last all that long since these things have a way of morphing quicker than people expect, but it certainly seems to be set up for something like that today.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Too funny. You know you are doing something wrong as a Congressional leader if you get beat down in your primary.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Haha. This is great. He thought he was up by 20-30 pts. I hope more incumbents have this happen.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

 

[MaxThreshold]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

He's not a liberal. It's one of the go-to words for people who don't subscribe to the progressive agenda.

 

[Socrates11]

It's fascinating because this type of passion in off years is going to push the GOP further right which in turn is going to completely #### them in presidential years.

Good. We already have Democrats, we don't need Democrat-Lite. Not sure why so many are so afraid of a true two party system. And if things keep fracturing maybe even 3 or 4 parties. That would be fine too. People the globe over want a time out on unfettered immigration. Politicians ignore that at their peril (see Cantor, Eric).

 

[avoiding injuries]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

He's not a liberal. It's one of the go-to words for people who don't subscribe to the progressive agenda.

I guess it's because he's been labeled a tea party candidate. He is an economics professor and congress could definitely use a class or two on economics.

 

[Sarnoff]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

He disagrees with Tim on everything Tim cares about.

 

[jonboltz]

Hard to even imagine they found someone more conservative.

 

[joffer]

CNN said Cantor outspent Brat $5.4m to a few hundred thousand

 

[James Daulton]

My kid goes to Randolph Macon.

 

[avoiding injuries]

If Tim doesn't check in within the next hour, we should call someone. He could have hurt his head when he fainted after hearing about this.

 

[3C's]

open primary...wonder how many votes Brat might have gotten from those outside the ® party.

 

[The_Man]

Brat upsets Cantor. Sounds like a bad bar mitzvah.

 

[Aerial Assault]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

Supported by the Tea Party.

Follower of Milton Friedman.

Rabid anti-immigration advocate, so much so that he attacked Cantor - with evident success - for the weak sauce Republican "alternative" to the DREAM Act.

Did I mention, supported by the Tea Party?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Is this an example of how gerrymandering can be a double-edged sword? It helps the incumbent stay in office against challenges from the other party, but it can also leave a non-fringe incumbent vulnerable to challengers from the fringes of his own party?

 

[shader]

What is happening? A guy can't buy an election anymore?

 

[Koya]

It's fascinating because this type of passion in off years is going to push the GOP further right which in turn is going to completely #### them in presidential years.

Good. We already have Democrats, we don't need Democrat-Lite. Not sure why so many are so afraid of a true two party system. And if things keep fracturing maybe even 3 or 4 parties. That would be fine too. People the globe over want a time out on unfettered immigration. Politicians ignore that at their peril (see Cantor, Eric).

Please do explain. Because I know immigration to the U.S. is actually quite, well, fetterred. Curious what country you are talking about here, since you state people the globe over.

 

[humpback]

Thanks to Cooter?

 

[shader]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

Supported by the Tea Party.

Follower of Milton Friedman.

Rabid anti-immigration advocate, so much so that he attacked Cantor - with evident success - for the weak sauce Republican "alternative" to the DREAM Act.

Did I mention, supported by the Tea Party?

In other words, he disagrees with your views in politics, so he's a nutjob.

 

[Koya]

It's fascinating because this type of passion in off years is going to push the GOP further right which in turn is going to completely #### them in presidential years.

Can't remember who wrote it (maybe the guys at Brookings?), but there's a pretty sane argument making the rounds that we're in for an extended period of divided government with Congressional Republicans doing very well in midterm elections -- where the intensity gap between the GOP and Dems is the biggest -- but, as you point out, that the imperative to move rightward and satisfy the intensely conservative off-cycle voters will make them unelectable at the Presidential level.

It probably won't last all that long since these things have a way of morphing quicker than people expect, but it certainly seems to be set up for something like that today.

I remember one of my first college classes, fall of 1992, two months before Clinton got elected. I read a whole book on how the balance of power would almost certainly ensure a Republican President with a split or Dem Congress for the foreseeable future.

Apparently foreseeable was 2 months.

 

[Aerial Assault]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

Supported by the Tea Party.

Follower of Milton Friedman.

Rabid anti-immigration advocate, so much so that he attacked Cantor - with evident success - for the weak sauce Republican "alternative" to the DREAM Act.

Did I mention, supported by the Tea Party?

In other words, he disagrees with your views in politics, so he's a nutjob.

If you say so. He actually managed to stay below the radar on some of his political views while focusing on being the anti-Cantor, but yes, it's pretty safe to say that someone who mounts a successful primary challenge to the #2 U.S. Representative in his party's leadership FROM THE RIGHT is out of step with the mainstream and thus, a nutjob.

 

[MaxThreshold]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

Supported by the Tea Party.

Follower of Milton Friedman.

Rabid anti-immigration advocate, so much so that he attacked Cantor - with evident success - for the weak sauce Republican "alternative" to the DREAM Act.

Did I mention, supported by the Tea Party?

In other words, he disagrees with your views in politics, so he's a nutjob.

If you say so. He actually managed to stay below the radar on some of his political views while focusing on being the anti-Cantor, but yes, it's pretty safe to say that someone who mounts a successful primary challenge to the #2 U.S. Representative in his party's leadership FROM THE RIGHT is out of step with the mainstream and thus, a nutjob.

In other words, he disagrees with your views in politics, so he's a nutjob.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

Supported by the Tea Party.

Follower of Milton Friedman.

Rabid anti-immigration advocate, so much so that he attacked Cantor - with evident success - for the weak sauce Republican "alternative" to the DREAM Act.

Did I mention, supported by the Tea Party?

No....you look like the nutjob for labeling someone without knowing anything about that person.

 

[Socrates11]

It's fascinating because this type of passion in off years is going to push the GOP further right which in turn is going to completely #### them in presidential years.

Good. We already have Democrats, we don't need Democrat-Lite. Not sure why so many are so afraid of a true two party system. And if things keep fracturing maybe even 3 or 4 parties. That would be fine too. People the globe over want a time out on unfettered immigration. Politicians ignore that at their peril (see Cantor, Eric).

Please do explain. Because I know immigration to the U.S. is actually quite, well, fetterred. Curious what country you are talking about here, since you state people the globe over.

You're really unaware of far right parties running against current immigration policies making significant gains in England, France, Denmark, and other countries?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/25/world/europe/eu-elections/

And you're not seriously arguing that the U.S. has secure borders?

 

[Aerial Assault]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

Supported by the Tea Party.

Follower of Milton Friedman.

Rabid anti-immigration advocate, so much so that he attacked Cantor - with evident success - for the weak sauce Republican "alternative" to the DREAM Act.

Did I mention, supported by the Tea Party?

No....you look like the nutjob for labeling someone without knowing anything about that person.

I just told you all about him. I knew who he was four weeks or so ago: did you?

 

[BeaverCleaver]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

Supported by the Tea Party.

Follower of Milton Friedman.

Rabid anti-immigration advocate, so much so that he attacked Cantor - with evident success - for the weak sauce Republican "alternative" to the DREAM Act.

Did I mention, supported by the Tea Party?

In other words, he disagrees with your views in politics, so he's a nutjob.

If you say so. He actually managed to stay below the radar on some of his political views while focusing on being the anti-Cantor, but yes, it's pretty safe to say that someone who mounts a successful primary challenge to the #2 U.S. Representative in his party's leadership FROM THE RIGHT is out of step with the mainstream and thus, a nutjob.

You look like a fool right now. So all the people that voted for him are nut jobs because you think they aren't in the mainstream?

 

[eoMMan]

Yay....politics!!!!

 

[BeaverCleaver]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

Supported by the Tea Party.

Follower of Milton Friedman.

Rabid anti-immigration advocate, so much so that he attacked Cantor - with evident success - for the weak sauce Republican "alternative" to the DREAM Act.

Did I mention, supported by the Tea Party?

No....you look like the nutjob for labeling someone without knowing anything about that person.

I just told you all about him. I knew who he was four weeks or so ago: did you?

So...why is he nuts?

 

[Aerial Assault]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

Supported by the Tea Party.

Follower of Milton Friedman.

Rabid anti-immigration advocate, so much so that he attacked Cantor - with evident success - for the weak sauce Republican "alternative" to the DREAM Act.

Did I mention, supported by the Tea Party?

No....you look like the nutjob for labeling someone without knowing anything about that person.

I just told you all about him. I knew who he was four weeks or so ago: did you?

So...why is he nuts?

His views are to the *extreme* right and out of the mainstream. If you agree with him, then so are yours. HTH.

 

[Sinrman]

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[BeaverCleaver]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

Supported by the Tea Party.

Follower of Milton Friedman.

Rabid anti-immigration advocate, so much so that he attacked Cantor - with evident success - for the weak sauce Republican "alternative" to the DREAM Act.

Did I mention, supported by the Tea Party?

No....you look like the nutjob for labeling someone without knowing anything about that person.

I just told you all about him. I knew who he was four weeks or so ago: did you?

So...why is he nuts?

His views are to the *extreme* right and out of the mainstream. If you agree with him, then so are yours. HTH.

What are all his views?

 

[Aerial Assault]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

Supported by the Tea Party.

Follower of Milton Friedman.

Rabid anti-immigration advocate, so much so that he attacked Cantor - with evident success - for the weak sauce Republican "alternative" to the DREAM Act.

Did I mention, supported by the Tea Party?

No....you look like the nutjob for labeling someone without knowing anything about that person.

I just told you all about him. I knew who he was four weeks or so ago: did you?

So...why is he nuts?

His views are to the *extreme* right and out of the mainstream. If you agree with him, then so are yours. HTH.

What are all his views?

Your web browser down? Go check out his page. I think you'll like it.

 

[GroveDiesel]

It's fascinating because this type of passion in off years is going to push the GOP further right which in turn is going to completely #### them in presidential years.

Good. We already have Democrats, we don't need Democrat-Lite. Not sure why so many are so afraid of a true two party system. And if things keep fracturing maybe even 3 or 4 parties. That would be fine too. People the globe over want a time out on unfettered immigration. Politicians ignore that at their peril (see Cantor, Eric).

Please do explain. Because I know immigration to the U.S. is actually quite, well, fetterred. Curious what country you are talking about here, since you state people the globe over.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/10/Report-Illegals-Waving-at-Agents-to-Detain-Them-Near-Border-Hoping-for-Permit-to-Remain-in-US

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/9/editorial-the-childrens-hour/#ixzz34FktLx7J

 

[BeaverCleaver]

District hasn't had a Democrat for Rep. since 1971

It still won't unless Cantor runs a write-in campaign and splits the R vote. The nutjob will win easily. Hilarious.

I don't know anything about Brat....what has he done to be labeled as a nutjob?

Supported by the Tea Party.

Follower of Milton Friedman.

Rabid anti-immigration advocate, so much so that he attacked Cantor - with evident success - for the weak sauce Republican "alternative" to the DREAM Act.

Did I mention, supported by the Tea Party?

No....you look like the nutjob for labeling someone without knowing anything about that person.

I just told you all about him. I knew who he was four weeks or so ago: did you?

So...why is he nuts?

His views are to the *extreme* right and out of the mainstream. If you agree with him, then so are yours. HTH.

What are all his views?

Your web browser down? Go check out his page. I think you'll like it.

I'd like you to express all those views you disagree with. Seems that you are also calling those that voted for him as nut jobs and that seems very ignorant.

 

[Koya]

It's fascinating because this type of passion in off years is going to push the GOP further right which in turn is going to completely #### them in presidential years.

Good. We already have Democrats, we don't need Democrat-Lite. Not sure why so many are so afraid of a true two party system. And if things keep fracturing maybe even 3 or 4 parties. That would be fine too. People the globe over want a time out on unfettered immigration. Politicians ignore that at their peril (see Cantor, Eric).

Please do explain. Because I know immigration to the U.S. is actually quite, well, fetterred. Curious what country you are talking about here, since you state people the globe over.

You're really unaware of far right parties running against current immigration policies making significant gains in England, France, Denmark, and other countries?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/25/world/europe/eu-elections/

And you're not seriously arguing that the U.S. has secure borders?

So, you'll go with the ask a question to (not) answer a question. Ugh, not again with this ####.

1. I am quite aware of the rising nationalism and anti-immigrant movements in those nations. FWIW, such a comparison does not shine favorable for those wishing to invoke them as something positive. It's actually fairly disturbing that some Americans actually look toward such xenophobic measures as if that will help our nation of immigrants. Such a narrow world view is both dangerous for our well being as without growth from immigration, there's no way our nation could sustain economically without drastic negative changes and impacts (and that's to disregard the many social benefits that immigrants bring).

Long story short: Anyone looking for us to mirror the xenophobic European's (because, that's ended well in the past, ya know?) is both shortsighted and... well, is this where I call out xenophobes as somehow bigoted only to be yelled at because I'm calling out backward and anachronistic beliefs as what they are?

2. Secure borders is only one measure of immigration, legal or otherwise. The only issues with have with creating a system that draws people here illegally while we look away at the local level (only to grandstand in congress and on message boards) are those we, ourselves have created. Hell, we started the fire, we added gas too it (you know, the whole sections of our economy that are illegal labor intensive) and then complain... with no actual solution.

Back to my point, we actually have a fairly high bar for anyone who does not wish to come in at dish-washer levels of employment and society. So, this is just a red herring of an argument.

So, perhaps you now wish to actually try to answer my questions. If you really have a legitimate point to make and wish to engage in a legitimate conversation that is.

 

[Aerial Assault]

I'd like you to express all those views you disagree with. Seems that you are also calling those that voted for him as nut jobs and that seems very ignorant.

Noted.