Ethical Question (1 Viewer)

[imeimex]

We have our roster cut down day rapidly advancing in my dynasty league. Several teams have to cut close to 10 people. My question is whether or not it is ethical to e-mail league members asking who they plan on cutting in hopes of making some deals with them before hand. My first inclination is that this should be well within the rules, but there is a kind of grey area that some owners could see this as shady?

What are your thoughts?

 

[wannabee]

I think this is on the up and up. If your motive is to trade with that team, to better both teams, it is ethically well within the bounds. I think this practice is moral and ethical and can/should not be questioned.

 

[King of the Jungle]

We have our roster cut down day rapidly advancing in my dynasty league. Several teams have to cut close to 10 people. My question is whether or not it is ethical to e-mail league members asking who they plan on cutting in hopes of making some deals with them before hand. My first inclination is that this should be well within the rules, but there is a kind of grey area that some owners could see this as shady?

What are your thoughts?

To avoid any problems, if there is someone that you like on somebodys roster, submit a trade. If that owner is planning on cutting them, they will probably come relatively cheap.

 

[imeimex]

Part of my question comes from the fact that every year there are some players that I would definately have offered a future draft pick for had I known the owner was going to cut them. I can see why people would not want to tell me who they are cutting as that hurts their trade leverage, but if I knew before hand I could at least give them something in return.

 

[wannabee]

Part of my question comes from the fact that every year there are some players that I would definately have offered a future draft pick for had I known the owner was going to cut them. I can see why people would not want to tell me who they are cutting as that hurts their trade leverage, but if I knew before hand I could at least give them something in return.

I think you could send out an email to all owners saying, "I might be interested in trading for some of the players you will cut. If you are interested in getting something for these players, let me know."

 

[wannabee]

Part of my question comes from the fact that every year there are some players that I would definately have offered a future draft pick for had I known the owner was going to cut them. I can see why people would not want to tell me who they are cutting as that hurts their trade leverage, but if I knew before hand I could at least give them something in return.

I think you could send out an email to all owners saying, "I might be interested in trading for some of the players you will cut. If you are interested in getting something for these players, let me know."

I would think you could also post the same message on the league message board, if you do not like the idea of emailing the entire league.

 

[Adam Sommer]

This should be acceptable and even encouraged.

In my dynasty league, Cuts and Contracts day is the most active, and thus the most fun. Moany teams with extra cap room or roster space trade wih teams who need help. We even have teams that send a player they need to dump for contract space issues (per rules they cannot be cut outright) to another team PLUS some other consideration, such as a future pick or league money, while receving nothing in return except that player off their roster.

Afterall, why cut a player and get nothing when he can be traded and you get something in return?

Or, why let you opponents cut a player and take some cap/roster hit when you could take them off their hands and also profit and bit?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

This should be acceptable and even encouraged.

In my dynasty league, Cuts and Contracts day is the most active, and thus the most fun. Moany teams with extra cap room or roster space trade wih teams who need help. We even have teams that send a player they need to dump for contract space issues (per rules they cannot be cut outright) to another team PLUS some other consideration, such as a future pick or league money, while receving nothing in return except that player off their roster.

Afterall, why cut a player and get nothing when he can be traded and you get something in return?

Or, why let you opponents cut a player and take some cap/roster hit when you could take them off their hands and also profit and bit?

I see nothing unethical about this, and in fact it sounds like the actions of a thorough GM.

 

[SSOG]

I agree. It's just like when Buffalo traded for Bledsoe rather than wait for him to be cut. On the one hand, you have to pay for a player who otherwise might have been free. On the other hand, you have no competition for his services from other owners, which might be worth the cost. It's a strategy move, but I don't see anything underhanded about it. There's no trickery involved, and there's nothing to prevent anyone in the league from doing the same thing.

 

[coolnerd]

I am in several leagues where this a part of the strategy of the league. It is openly advertised and in fact expected. depending on the league size and needs of the teams it works very well for both. Team A may want to get younger at a position while Team B can fill a hole with a veteran. A portion of the charm of dynasty leagues is the ability to make year around moves including those type of trades.

 

[Kit Fisto]

It's actually a very sharky move if you ask me. The gups cut without first trying to garner interest.

Why not take a 4th rounder for someone you were gonna cut anyway? One guys trash is another guys treasure.

 

[BigTex]

We cut 5 before and 5 after the draft (dynasty, rook/vets draft). I found out one owner was cutting A. Vinatieri so I offered my 4.10 pick. He accepted now that's one less positions I have to worry about week to week.

 

[Hawk]

I can't imagine a league that would not let you do that. Off-season trades in anticipation of cut down dates is half the fun of a keeper/dynasty league. Anyone who thinks that is shady is being dumb and is probably just too lazy to seek out their own deals.

 

[thbohnsack]

I run a dynasty league, and we also have cuts approaching. All players are 'bid' for in a free agency auction draft, so if I wanted a player on someone else's roster, and I can get him in a trade, better for both teams. Otherwise, if the player is dropped, I now potentially have to compete with the other owners for that player. Maybe I get him cheaper, maybe not.

Likewise, if I had a player I thought someone coveted, I might try to play up the fact that I am going to keep him, see what I might get. If no offers come my way - so be it.

I would say this is well within bounds, and a necessary and interesting part of keeper and dynasty leagues.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Part of my question comes from the fact that every year there are some players that I would definately have offered a future draft pick for had I known the owner was going to cut them. I can see why people would not want to tell me who they are cutting as that hurts their trade leverage, but if I knew before hand I could at least give them something in return.

I think you could send out an email to all owners saying, "I might be interested in trading for some of the players you will cut. If you are interested in getting something for these players, let me know."

This is the correct method.

Only downside is that you tip your hand to all the other owners of what your thoughts are, but that's minimal.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

This should be acceptable and even encouraged.

In my dynasty league, Cuts and Contracts day is the most active, and thus the most fun. Moany teams with extra cap room or roster space trade wih teams who need help. We even have teams that send a player they need to dump for contract space issues (per rules they cannot be cut outright) to another team PLUS some other consideration, such as a future pick or league money, while receving nothing in return except that player off their roster.

Afterall, why cut a player and get nothing when he can be traded and you get something in return?

Or, why let you opponents cut a player and take some cap/roster hit when you could take them off their hands and also profit and bit?

I see nothing unethical about this, and in fact it sounds like the actions of a thorough GM.

Exactly.This level of activity got my Ron Dayne for next to nothing an hour before the cut for virtually nothing ($1 free agent dollar).

Best trade I've made all year.