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we keep saying he's a dope... and yeah- some bizarre choices for bomb placement. but he still was capable enough to make and place bombs that inflicted some (limited) harm and damage. hopefully the next one won't learn from his mistakes.
I just can't get beyond the whole placement thing. There are thousands of better places to put the 23rd st bomb to inflict more carnage. My only guess is there was enough police presence in more trafficked areas that he couldn't place them without being seen by police at that time of night. Like many NYers, I know my friends and I have talked/thought about how the next one would happen, and I don't think any of us even thought of the dead part of 23rd and the flower district on a Sat night.
yeah... always assumed Union Sqare, or any of the busier transit hubs- either below or above ground. but probably (eta) harder to just leave a bag/package in a subway station and walk away without somebody seeing you, especially the busier ones that I just mentioned. it's probalby like you say- the guy was super paranoid about getting caught and chose the locations based on privacy and convenience.
I don't think so- at least based on the british crime dramas I've seen for tv and film. but ubiquitous enough.
I'm guessing higher risk of being caught in more populated areas. The guy is a coward, thankfully more the half-measures type of #######.
They're more numerous in the past couple of years. In the old thread I alluded to it, but they're now at least every major east-west intersection in Manhattan and frankly at a lot more. Every non-brownstone residential building or hotel has them as well and most major-ish businesses.
agree. I finished my thought in the quoted post above.
In DC there aren't even cops visible anymore. It's all eye in the sky stuff. A couple cops at the NE corner of the WH fence and a couple at the NW corner. With all the Fed buildings in that area you can walk in any direction and not see any police presence. But every square inch is covered.
That's the part that made/makes no sense though...23rd is a major street these day even where the bomb was placed. Now granted if you go a block east of where he was and you get to the Flatiron area which has Eataly, Lego Store, load of people outside eating at Shake-Shack, a whole host of other restaurants, etc. A block to the west and you get into the start of Chelsea proper which leads into the High Line. So, he put the bomb was basically smack-dab in the middle of two highly populated areas at 8:30 on a Saturday night.
pretty sure they're down here too.
Have they ever shown the same reserve in a mass shooting incident? Did they need all the facts before calling for gun controlsho nuff said:
My guess is he owns a Planet Fitness and felt threatened with how well Orange Theory Fitness is doing.
There are parts of my commute in the morning that are just scary. Hundreds, perhaps thousands of people boxed into tight quarters, all funneling out of commuter trains at peak rush hour and waiting in massive lines to get up stairs/escalators to street level (through exits that just weren't designed to accommodate that kind of volume way back when). I often wonder not if, but when one of these lunatics will attack in that context. I wonder whether someone could just stroll in off the street and do that, or if whether, perhaps, our military and police have such incredible technology that they could somehow prevent that or see it coming from a mile away, despite all the chaotic foot traffic from hundreds of thousands of people in all directions. I often wonder when something like that will happen. And of course we have lives to lead, and jobs to work, and we just need to go about our routines, hoping that it doesn't happen, or hoping we're just not there -- and too many people aren't in the vicinity -- if something actually does happen.Ditkaless Wonders said:
Chaos? Does there need to be another explanation? I get that part of the investigative process is the why/where etc, but how can we be expected to understand the motivations of people intent on tearing our country apart at any cost?
that bag, a block this way or that, actually inflicts damage and causes genuine chaos- because it would be around a place with people and not a shut-down area without them.
that's the scenario I've always imagined being next.
I hate the ny and DC subways as a tourist. Even as it is wildly more expensive I take an uber everywhere. Just for convenience sake. Obviously not doable as a daily commuter.
has there been more info about the knife-guy? hope the wounded there are ok- and yeah, glad this was dealt with as quickly as it was.
Nice theory, except the PATH train was only going to WTC this weekend. Nothing north of there.
I hesitate to ask... but why would they allow a bomb to go off in the middle of nyc? this seems like a pretty far-fetched scenario, IMO.
I'm sure there is a lot of info we aren't being told (and prob shouldn't) as they're doing their digging right now.
I mentioned the car with explosives at times square... I intentionally didn't mention all the arrests made over the years where people are taken in talking about or attempting to put together this kind of thing.
Good job LE
