Fantasy Football Implications from MNF Game (3 Viewers)

[DropKick]

What do you guys do if you feel bad when youre winning but know you probably would of lost if it continued? It was a battle of the top 2 teams.
Team A had the best record. Outscored Team B by over 150pts in the season. Team B was winning by 33pts. Team A had Burrow and Diggs left and PROBABLY was going to win.
What are some thoughts here? If the game doesnt resume Do you chop it? Does Team B just say its yours and chop the pot? Team B keeps top spot money and give Team A the champoinshio?

This is an unprecedent situation that could not of been predicted at this time of the season but games get cancelled in all sports that alter a Win and loss.
In fantasy baseball, games get postponed all the time and I know not with this magnitude that alter the weeks and wins for a team.

Ours is similar and, as stated above, my preference is to call them co-champs and split the money. I think any outcome comes with an asterisk so I may as well recognize both teams.

What if one team has a 6 point lead with no players left and the other team has Josh Allen, joe Mixon, and Gabe Davis left and that team is the commissioner?

Our game was projected to be a nail biter. You were projected to win by a large margin. In your example, if I were the other team, I would concede.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well..... I have a real good Championship Game situation for you all to see and hear....... A real doozy.....

Before the Buff/Cincy game:

Team A has 119.08

Team B has 122.32

Team B has no one left. No player in the Buff/Cincy game.
Stays at 122.32 points

Team A has Tyler Boyd left. Boyd scores the TD.
Gets 7.90 points
Goes to 126,98 points.

Now what??????!!!!!

How should this situation be handled if the game is not resumed?????

Team A gets the victory. The lead and B has no players left. This one’s an easy call.

Team B should concede.

With the Boyd situation, that's a no brainer. It happened on the field, and the guy should get his win

And if Boyd had a donut at the time then you use season averages or week 18 scores? I don’t see this as a no brained and would call it cherry picking.

The standard I would use is who was likely to win if the game had been completed. In this case, we can say with some certainty that the Boyd team would have won. If he hadn't scored a TD by the time the game was suspended, we wouldn't be able to say with any confidence who would have won. So in that case I'd vote to split the pot.

But ultimately, any solution will be arbitrary and unfair to someone. I just hope everyone approaches the situation with grace and keeps in mind that none of this really matters all that much

Except to the people that have millions on the line.

If I had millions on the line, I'd be kicking myself for not vetting the league rules more carefully before committing my money.

I am talking about people who spent thousands but were in position to win a million or so. It isn't like you are going to read some obscure rule and say I won't play because of that 0.01% chance to be in this situation.

To be specific there is a guy in the FFPC main event he paid $1500 to get in and he came into Monday night 11.2 points out with Singletary left. The guy in 1st who will now win back to back Million dollar prizes is now the winner. Now the guy in 2nd still gets a nice chunk of money but coming from a guy who has finished in both 1st and 2nd place in RTS in 2014 and 2015 I know how much it hurts to miss the big prize and also to win the big prize.

2nd place is $200K

Hard to sign up for these with a 15-20% vig and crap like this can happen. A lot of people will have a sour taste about ff from events like this.

It was the perfect storm for a s***show for that format, for sure.

That said, I’ll play an NFC event again next year. This was super flukey & the timing added to that significantly.

If this happens week 6, it impacts nothing. Just happened to be the last game of the last week of the season.

to @Dez point, it would really, really suck to lose $800k when you had such a good opportunity, but it is what it is. I can’t imagine being in the position of having a player left and being down only a handful of points and losing out on that size contest that way.

Just unbelievable.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Did I read right that if the game is cancelled, Bengals win the north regardless of week 18? Seems iffy to me relying on week 18 as a solution.

I don’t love any of the solutions I’m seeing. I’m kicking around that the best way to replicate actual stats from players in a prime time meaningful game against playoff completion may be to use stats from week one playoffs involving Buffalo/Cincinnati. I can’t say it’s a better resolution than giving goose eggs, but it’s more satisfying.

I haven’t seen that yet, but yes - if that’s the case, the Bengals may opt to give their best players some PTO to get their heads together & would make week 18 stats unusable.

The contingency for that in my league is “the two LCG contestants will get together to discuss an equitable split”.

That said, they may still have home field to play for, making week 18 more compelling.

Where it’s still an imperfect solution is that weather might be a factor in the week 18 cinci game, and both NEP/Bills and Ravens/Bengals have significantly lower projected points totals than Bills/Bengals did.

And all that said, I am having a hard time personally getting excited about any football next weekend, and just really hope for the best for Hamlin.

 

[bj diggy]

Easiest thing to do..whatever the league and your web site has it scored at....that's the answer. No discussion, no voting. If it's 0...it's 0, if it something else, so be it...and so on. There is no right answer here, best thing to do is just let it be. As a long - long time commish..this is how I have always handled "questions" about scoring.

 

[crushedspirit]

Well..... I have a real good Championship Game situation for you all to see and hear....... A real doozy.....

Before the Buff/Cincy game:

Team A has 119.08

Team B has 122.32

Team B has no one left. No player in the Buff/Cincy game.
Stays at 122.32 points

Team A has Tyler Boyd left. Boyd scores the TD.
Gets 7.90 points
Goes to 126,98 points.

Now what??????!!!!!

How should this situation be handled if the game is not resumed?????

Team A gets the victory. The lead and B has no players left. This one’s an easy call.

Team B should concede.

With the Boyd situation, that's a no brainer. It happened on the field, and the guy should get his win

And if Boyd had a donut at the time then you use season averages or week 18 scores? I don’t see this as a no brained and would call it cherry picking.

If Boyd didn't score on national TV for all to see, then he gets a 0, and the other team wins.

 

[JohnnyU]

Easiest thing to do..whatever the league and your web site has it scored at....that's the answer. No discussion, no voting. If it's 0...it's 0, if it something else, so be it...and so on. There is no right answer here, best thing to do is just let it be. As a long - long time commish..this is how I have always handled "questions" about scoring.

if the game is rescheduled use those stats and apply to week 17. If not, apply week 18 stats from Bills and Bengals players to week 17. Accepting a half QTR stats is stupid and is totally unfair and just wrong. Hell, a split is better than that.

 

[Smack Tripper]

If this game was not in Prime Time, would it have this level of focus and scrutiny?

I think it being the "last chance" game led to this, and yes I know we had some impact players in this game.

But my perspective on this is, if your guy gets knocked out due to injury, there are no refunds. Its unfortunate for half the teams an entire slate got knocked out but...

 

[Judge Smails]

In our money positions everyone agreed to chop

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If this game was not in Prime Time, would it have this level of focus and scrutiny?

Yes. Absolutely. A player’s heart stopped on the field. If it happened at any time it gets cancelled. The players reportedly were the ones who said it was over. I can’t imagine any scenario where players just go back to work ho hum after seeing / going through that.

I think it being the "last chance" game led to this, and yes I know we had some impact players in this game.

That made the timing significantly worse, no doubt. But same result. The game gets wiped.

But my perspective on this is, if your guy gets knocked out due to injury, there are no refunds. Its unfortunate for half the teams an entire slate got knocked out but...

No offense intended, but I don’t believe your analogy is successful here.

This wasn’t a player getting knocked out. It was an entire game cancelled.

It’s an entirely different problem, requiring entirely different solutions. And at the end of the day it’s up to every league to determine what’s best for that league to do.

As a commissioner it’s a nightmare worst case scenario for a season to come down to this. Especially as one of the LCG teams. But at the same time I’m deeply thankful that my league mates are 1. Long time friends, and 2. Very reasonable adults. This allowed for calm, rational discussion & quick solutions proposed/agreed upon.

In my 2 dynasty leagues we were lucky that the cancelled game had little impact on the LCGs.

But for sure, this was unprecedented. You can’t just say “tough luck, your player got hurt, therm’s the breaks” - because that’s not remotely what happened.

 

[Dwayne Hoover]

I just feel like when you overmanage a situation and don't know what may come next, you can end up creating even more issues. Its definitely crap luck to be involved in a game like this but not every situation can be accounted for and better to just nip in bud now.

 

[titusbramble]

I'm going to use the stats from week 18. One problem is that I give points for first downs which aren't shown in box scores. Any sites that show who got the first downs in a game?

If you do it manually, don't forget the easily overlooked stat that a touchdown counts as a first down

 

[Zow]

I was up 117 - 72, a lead of 45 pts. All done while my opponent had Josh Allen.

His seasonal average is 28 in my scoring, though he has reached 40+ 3 times (though not as high as 45).

I believe that, with 2 points late first quarter, it would be unlikely he'd reach 46 pts but of course I don't know for sure.

I had hoped my opponent would make it easy and concede but being as he's a Bills fan, he's not particularly in the mood today, understandably so. We host on ESPN, so guess we wait to see what they announce?

Any guidance or thoughts appreciated.

I’m in a similar position (went in up 55 points and opponent had burrow and Higgins). Even with the burrow td I’m still a big favorite.

Like you, I’ve essentially said and done nothing. Unfortunately, neither has my opponent and the commish. So, like you, I’m just waiting to see what yahoo does.

 

[Raging weasel]

I'm going to use the stats from week 18. One problem is that I give points for first downs which aren't shown in box scores. Any sites that show who got the first downs in a game?

If you do it manually, don't forget the easily overlooked stat that a touchdown counts as a first down

Think it was 6-7 games into the first season I used 1st downs as a stat that I realized this.

 

[candian fantasy guy]

In my home league that I am commissioner, we decided to basically do what the FFPC has decided. Luckily for us, our playoff format is a 3 week total points race. The leader is up 60pts and had Allen going on Monday. Although the 2nd place guy had G Davis and 3 defensive players, the odds were highly stacked against him. Same scenario with the 3rd and 4th spot points gap. So we declared those 3 teams the 1 through 3 spots and money winners. I am glad we had this point gap that made this decision fairly easy. Team 2 is not always willing to go along with the group, but to my surprise he was the first one to accept this.

 

[yellowdog]

No one using W18 stats and manually adding them into MFL?

 

[FairWarning]

I was up 117 - 72, a lead of 45 pts. All done while my opponent had Josh Allen.

His seasonal average is 28 in my scoring, though he has reached 40+ 3 times (though not as high as 45).

I believe that, with 2 points late first quarter, it would be unlikely he'd reach 46 pts but of course I don't know for sure.

I had hoped my opponent would make it easy and concede but being as he's a Bills fan, he's not particularly in the mood today, understandably so. We host on ESPN, so guess we wait to see what they announce?

Any guidance or thoughts appreciated.

I’m in a similar position (went in up 55 points and opponent had burrow and Higgins). Even with the burrow td I’m still a big favorite.

Like you, I’ve essentially said and done nothing. Unfortunately, neither has my opponent and the commish. So, like you, I’m just waiting to see what yahoo does.

I’m sure they are waiting on the NFL’s action. Could you imaging if this happened at the Super Bowl? Everyone is just wading thru the unknown.

 

[habsfan]

Yesterday I sent an email to our league to say we would wait and see what the NFL and in turn our league host decided. I also said that while we may abide by what our host does, we didn't have to do that.

Today I am reconsidering the "wait and see" stance because if we were to consider substituting week 18 stats for Bills and Bengals, I feel like we need to make that decision before those games are played, otherwise you just have another option you already know the outcome of.

 

[zamboni]

Also notified my league that we have to see what happens, but in discussion with a few members, if the game isn't played, we're likely going to take the season-long average for each player. Fortunately, all the players involved are the who's-who (Allen, Burrow, Singletary, Mixon, Chase, Higgins, Diggs, Davis and Knox) and we don't have to deal with guys with skewed weekly averages due to varying playing time (e.g., Cook, Perine or Boyd).

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats is an awful idea. Im not even sure why its a consideration. If a player gets hurt hes out. The game got called, the stats are the stats.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game. Seems incredibly simple to me. Any other solution and youre opening the door for problems.

 

[zamboni]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats seems.....Dumb.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game.

Disagree, but there are arguments for both. This is a unique situation, not just a bunch of guys getting hurt at the beginning of the same game.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats seems.....Dumb.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game.

Disagree, but there are arguments for both. This is a unique situation, not a bunch of guys getting hurt in the same game.

The game happened. Unless they re[play the game, which theyre not going to do, the box score will always and forever read the same way. They arent going to substitute stats from the prior week.

Yall are making this hard.

 

[ghostguy123]

So if you are going to use players averages, are you doing total points divided by # of games the team has played? What if a guy missed a few games, do you take the average of the games where that player was active?

 

[zamboni]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats seems.....Dumb.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game.

Disagree, but there are arguments for both. This is a unique situation, not a bunch of guys getting hurt in the same game.

The game happened. Unless they re[play the game, which theyre not going to do, the box score will always and forever read the same way. They arent going to substitute stats from the prior week.

Yall are making this hard.

Every league is different and you have to do what works for that collection of individuals. We're a total points league (no playoffs) through week 18 and the 1st place winner is 40 points ahead of the 2nd place team. For the BUF/CIN, the 1st place team had no one going, while the 2nd place team had Burrow and Chase going. 2nd could easily catch 1st with those two. The 1st place team even indicated that he doesn't want to win that way with Burrow and Chase getting zeros for week 17.

 

[zamboni]

So if you are going to use players averages, are you doing total points divided by # of games the team has played? What if a guy missed a few games, do you take the average of the games where that player was active?

Only active games. If he left early due to injury and skewed the average down, them's the breaks (in this case anyway)

 

[ghostguy123]

Using season averages for a total points league makes sense.
It's much different in a title game though IMO

 

[zamboni]

Using season averages for a total points league makes sense.
It's much different in a title game though IMO

I can somewhat see that logic. In a one week matchup, a player's potential point range is obviously going to be much wider than, but either way you have to assign a point value whether it's zero or a mean/median/mode.

 

[ghostguy123]

Using season averages for a total points league makes sense.
It's much different in a title game though IMO

I can somewhat see that logic. In a one week matchup, a player's potential point range is obviously going to be much wider than, but either way you have to assign a point value whether it's zero or a mean/median/mode.

I'm not a fan of assigning a point value that was never achieved. Not for a title game.
Two scenarios:
A team wins because you assign averages.
A team loses because you either give zeros or the few points guys scored.

Both are unfair, but I think the LESS unfair option is using the few stats accumulated Monday, and basically treating it as though all the Monday players got injured.

It certainly isn't going to be a shock that people will have a bias towards which option they prefer. Pretty sure it's directly related to what benefits them.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Using season averages for a total points league makes sense.
It's much different in a title game though IMO

I can somewhat see that logic. In a one week matchup, a player's potential point range is obviously going to be much wider than, but either way you have to assign a point value whether it's zero or a mean/median/mode.

Justin Jefferson managers would like a season average option

 

[zamboni]

Using season averages for a total points league makes sense.
It's much different in a title game though IMO

I can somewhat see that logic. In a one week matchup, a player's potential point range is obviously going to be much wider than, but either way you have to assign a point value whether it's zero or a mean/median/mode.

Justin Jefferson managers would like a season average option

That's when total points leagues work out better - you don't have your championship torpedoed by one bad week in a season for the ages.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Using season averages for a total points league makes sense.
It's much different in a title game though IMO

I can somewhat see that logic. In a one week matchup, a player's potential point range is obviously going to be much wider than, but either way you have to assign a point value whether it's zero or a mean/median/mode.

Justin Jefferson managers would like a season average option

That's when total points leagues work out better - you don't have your championship torpedoed by one bad week in a season for the ages.

True but you also get Mike Evans single handedly winning Consolation brackets after 5 7 weeks of torpedoing teams lol

 

[zamboni]

Using season averages for a total points league makes sense.
It's much different in a title game though IMO

I can somewhat see that logic. In a one week matchup, a player's potential point range is obviously going to be much wider than, but either way you have to assign a point value whether it's zero or a mean/median/mode.

I'm not a fan of assigning a point value that was never achieved. Not for a title game.
Two scenarios:
A team wins because you assign averages.
A team loses because you either give zeros or the few points guys scored.

Both are unfair, but I think the LESS unfair option is using the few stats accumulated Monday, and basically treating it as though all the Monday players got injured.

It certainly isn't going to be a shock that people will have a bias towards which option they prefer. Pretty sure it's directly related to what benefits them.

Or you can have them play a best-of-7 rock/paper/scissors contest to decide the title.

Seriously though, there's no easy answer if the game isn't played.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats is an awful idea. Im not even sure why its a consideration. If a player gets hurt hes out. The game got called, the stats are the stats.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game. Seems incredibly simple to me. Any other solution and youre opening the door for problems.

Yet there are people in here calling that solution “stupid” - despite most hosting sites and national contests following the same procedure. They’d rather do things that have never been done like take Week 16 or Week 18 stats and put them in Week 17.

I finalized the scores all four leagues, once it was announced that the game would not be played this week, to determine the winner - with no complaints at all - and left it up to the winner how they wanted to split the pot or not. I’m most cases where the game was in doubt the teams agreed to a split.

 

[JohnnyU]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats is an awful idea. Im not even sure why its a consideration. If a player gets hurt hes out. The game got called, the stats are the stats.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game. Seems incredibly simple to me. Any other solution and youre opening the door for problems.

That is ridiculous. They didn't even play a QTR. It's not like the players got hurt. Any commish that accepted that as final I would quit that league. They are just being lazy and taking the easy way out, unless they were down 6 points had Allen, Mixon, and Gabe Davis going in the game and their opponent had none Commish or not, I wouldn't blame anyone for not accepting that.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats is an awful idea. Im not even sure why its a consideration. If a player gets hurt hes out. The game got called, the stats are the stats.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game. Seems incredibly simple to me. Any other solution and youre opening the door for problems.

Yet there are people in here calling that solution “stupid” - despite most hosting sites and national contests following the same procedure. They’d rather do things that have never been done like take Week 16 or Week 18 stats and put them in Week 17.

I finalized the scores all four leagues, once it was announced that the game would not be played this week, to determine the winner - with no complaints at all - and left it up to the winner how they wanted to split the pot or not. I’m most cases where the game was in doubt the teams agreed to a split.

IDK, maybe you should be more open minded about trying something new. I kinda like the idea of using projected points instead of actual. Pretty sure I would have own 3-4 more games this year if we didn't use this stupid actual points for that week concept.

Spoiler

 

[zamboni]

It certainly isn't going to be a shock that people will have a bias towards which option they prefer. Pretty sure it's directly related to what benefits them.

Fortunately we have a real standup dude who's in first place and hasn't won in his 25 years in the league. Doesn't want to finally win with the 2nd place team having received goose eggs from both Burrow and Chase.

 

[zamboni]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats is an awful idea. Im not even sure why its a consideration. If a player gets hurt hes out. The game got called, the stats are the stats.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game. Seems incredibly simple to me. Any other solution and youre opening the door for problems.

Yet there are people in here calling that solution “stupid” - despite most hosting sites and national contests following the same procedure. They’d rather do things that have never been done like take Week 16 or Week 18 stats and put them in Week 17.

I finalized the scores all four leagues, once it was announced that the game would not be played this week, to determine the winner - with no complaints at all - and left it up to the winner how they wanted to split the pot or not. I’m most cases where the game was in doubt the teams agreed to a split.

IDK, maybe you should be more open minded about trying something new. I kinda like the idea of using projected points instead of actual. Pretty sure I would have own 3-4 more games this year if we didn't use this stupid actual points for that week concept.

Spoiler

Yeah, Swift would have won me a title.

 

[FairWarning]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats seems.....Dumb.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game.

Disagree, but there are arguments for both. This is a unique situation, not a bunch of guys getting hurt in the same game.

The game happened. Unless they re[play the game, which theyre not going to do, the box score will always and forever read the same way. They arent going to substitute stats from the prior week.

Yall are making this hard.

Every league is different and you have to do what works for that collection of individuals. We're a total points league (no playoffs) through week 18 and the 1st place winner is 40 points ahead of the 2nd place team. For the BUF/CIN, the 1st place team had no one going, while the 2nd place team had Burrow and Chase going. 2nd could easily catch 1st with those two. The 1st place team even indicated that he doesn't want to win that way with Burrow and Chase getting zeros for week 17.

My league is set up the same:

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats is an awful idea. Im not even sure why its a consideration. If a player gets hurt hes out. The game got called, the stats are the stats.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game. Seems incredibly simple to me. Any other solution and youre opening the door for problems.

That is ridiculous. They didn't even play a QTR. It's not like the players got hurt. Any commish that accepted that as final I would quit that league. They are just being lazy and taking the easy way out, unless they were down 6 points had Allen, Mixon, and Gabe Davis going in the game and their opponent had none Commish or not, I wouldn't blame anyone for not accepting that.

Is the box score ever going to change? No. Because that’s what happened. Super simple.

What’s the theory behind not going by what actually happened? To be more “fair”?

 

[matttyl]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats is an awful idea. Im not even sure why its a consideration. If a player gets hurt hes out. The game got called, the stats are the stats.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game. Seems incredibly simple to me. Any other solution and youre opening the door for problems.

Fully with you on this idea that the stats are the stats. Some players got some very small amounts and then the game ended. Was good with that outcome (I was in the title game and was up at the time). It’s what the system did on its own, without any manual input. Then yesterday MFL removed all stats from Mondays game, so the scores reverted back to what they were Monday morning. Stay with this, or manually input the half a quarter of stats from what was played?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

My commish is taking the "easy" way out. Because MFL already removed the first quarter game stats he is going with the final score, unless the game ends up being played. Then he will add in the points manually if MFL doesn't support that.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats is an awful idea. Im not even sure why its a consideration. If a player gets hurt hes out. The game got called, the stats are the stats.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game. Seems incredibly simple to me. Any other solution and youre opening the door for problems.

Fully with you on this idea that the stats are the stats. Some players got some very small amounts and then the game ended. Was good with that outcome (I was in the title game and was up at the time). It’s what the system did on its own, without any manual input. Then yesterday MFL removed all stats from Mondays game, so the scores reverted back to what they were Monday morning. Stay with this, or manually input the half a quarter of stats from what was played?

Personally, I would go by the official box score.

 

[matttyl]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats is an awful idea. Im not even sure why its a consideration. If a player gets hurt hes out. The game got called, the stats are the stats.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game. Seems incredibly simple to me. Any other solution and youre opening the door for problems.

Fully with you on this idea that the stats are the stats. Some players got some very small amounts and then the game ended. Was good with that outcome (I was in the title game and was up at the time). It’s what the system did on its own, without any manual input. Then yesterday MFL removed all stats from Mondays game, so the scores reverted back to what they were Monday morning. Stay with this, or manually input the half a quarter of stats from what was played?

Personally, I would go by the official box score.

Whose? The NFL or MFL, who hosts our league? According to the latter, the game was never played.

In fact, according to the former (on their site right now), the game hasn’t even been played and is still “upcoming”. There is no score, and if you click on “game details”, there are no stats from what was played.

 

[zamboni]

Back in 2020, with many players missing games due to COVID, we had to pivot when certain players were ruled out close to game time and we didn't assign zeros (GMs had designated backup players). Sometimes you have to adjust when unique situations happen. But again, every league is different and I don't think there's a one-size fits all situation. The league host sites obviously can only use what actual data there is, but we as leagues can adjust to what fits our needs.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Very empty feeling and way to end the FF season

-I understand many of you are displaying some elaborate ways of trying to be fair but most leagues I'm involved in or know of are chopping
-That's fair to the 2 teams involved
-But it also feels like a lot of time and effort was somehow wasted.
Guess we could say that for a lot of seasons and I personally hated the way everything came to a head on Christmas and New Years in '22.
Extending the season now to 18 weeks has pushed everything right into the middle of the holidays and it's pretty inconvenient for a lot of folks.

More thoughts on this but I am having some regrets this morning and maybe it's that same empty feeling you get when FF is over
And your hometown team is pretty much done
Guess it's the off season already

 

[theplayer11]

using player averages is the same as those liking participation trophies. If the game is never played, then those players get zero points.
It sucks, but that's what it is. The players didn't get any points.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats is an awful idea. Im not even sure why its a consideration. If a player gets hurt hes out. The game got called, the stats are the stats.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game. Seems incredibly simple to me. Any other solution and youre opening the door for problems.

Fully with you on this idea that the stats are the stats. Some players got some very small amounts and then the game ended. Was good with that outcome (I was in the title game and was up at the time). It’s what the system did on its own, without any manual input. Then yesterday MFL removed all stats from Mondays game, so the scores reverted back to what they were Monday morning. Stay with this, or manually input the half a quarter of stats from what was played?

Personally, I would go by the official box score.

Whose? The NFL or MFL, who hosts our league? According to the latter, the game was never played.

In fact, according to the former (on their site right now), the game hasn’t even been played and is still “upcoming”. There is no score, and if you click on “game details”, there are no stats from what was played.

I would go by reality or zero. I would never even consider average or projected scores.

 

[-OZ-]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats is an awful idea. Im not even sure why its a consideration. If a player gets hurt hes out. The game got called, the stats are the stats.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game. Seems incredibly simple to me. Any other solution and youre opening the door for problems.

Fully with you on this idea that the stats are the stats. Some players got some very small amounts and then the game ended. Was good with that outcome (I was in the title game and was up at the time). It’s what the system did on its own, without any manual input. Then yesterday MFL removed all stats from Mondays game, so the scores reverted back to what they were Monday morning. Stay with this, or manually input the half a quarter of stats from what was played?

Personally, I would go by the official box score.

Whose? The NFL or MFL, who hosts our league? According to the latter, the game was never played.

In fact, according to the former (on their site right now), the game hasn’t even been played and is still “upcoming”. There is no score, and if you click on “game details”, there are no stats from what was played.

Right. It’s akin to a rainout in the 3rd inning.

 

[jobarules]

using player averages is the same as those liking participation trophies. If the game is never played, then those players get zero points.
It sucks, but that's what it is. The players didn't get any points.

So if someone had Allen, Chase, and Mixon and was down 1 point going into the game they should lose? Nah man, thats some BS right there.

 

[matttyl]

Im not involved but this idea of using averages or the week priors stats is an awful idea. Im not even sure why its a consideration. If a player gets hurt hes out. The game got called, the stats are the stats.

IMO the stats are what the stats are at the calling of the game. Seems incredibly simple to me. Any other solution and youre opening the door for problems.

Fully with you on this idea that the stats are the stats. Some players got some very small amounts and then the game ended. Was good with that outcome (I was in the title game and was up at the time). It’s what the system did on its own, without any manual input. Then yesterday MFL removed all stats from Mondays game, so the scores reverted back to what they were Monday morning. Stay with this, or manually input the half a quarter of stats from what was played?

Personally, I would go by the official box score.

Whose? The NFL or MFL, who hosts our league? According to the latter, the game was never played.

In fact, according to the former (on their site right now), the game hasn’t even been played and is still “upcoming”. There is no score, and if you click on “game details”, there are no stats from what was played.

I would go by reality or zero. I would never even consider average or projected scores.

Agreed on not doing averages or projections. My point is that some sites have a different reality. MFL says it never happened. NFL says it has yet to happen. Your link has a half or quarter of stats. So three different realities. I feel like I’m in a marvel movie.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

using player averages is the same as those liking participation trophies. If the game is never played, then those players get zero points.
It sucks, but that's what it is. The players didn't get any points.

So if someone had Allen, Chase, and Mixon and was down 1 point going into the game they should lose? Nah man, thats some BS right there.

Actual stats (which is what I would use, cuz reality.
Or Zero.

Those are the only two options IMO. Take a league vote, make a decision. Later on make a rule for the future.