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Favre Wanted The Packers To Sign TO (1 Viewer)
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Footballguy
maybe favre should retire and be the GM
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trader jake
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"insider" 
any direct quotes from favre?
any direct quotes from favre?
Challenge Everything
Footballguy
As a Packer fan I wanted to see TO in the Green & Gold. Nobody can deny that guy has talent and his "love" for Favre may have gone a long way this year. Green Bay would have had a fun season... either winning many games or because of the headaches TO would bring. Still wanted to see it happen, but it did not. TO >>>>>> Walker.
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trader jake
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favre is on record that this upcoming year will be his last should he return. why wouldn't you want TO under that situation? if it goes bad you won't be around anyway, but if everything clicks - the packers could have been an actual contender with a few big-time additions (like TO, arrington, woodson, 1.05...they have/had the cap space all along)The person who chewed Javon Walker's ### off in the media last year for not coming to camp - who then listened to his "leader" then blew out his knee - would have prefferred TO
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Challenge Everything
Footballguy
You would have been sorry to see that. Favre to TO would have hooked it up at least 16 times. Pure beauty I tell you... pure beauty.
Englishteacher
Footballguy
I would have liked to have seen T.O. question Favre's leadership skills, manhood, and sexuality if this had happened. 
Favre is no idiot. Selfish? IMO... hell yes.
Lets assume this "source" is telling the truth. Yea, maybe it's a stretch, but hear me out...
Favre knows that T.O. would have to shut up and play this year. And he probly figured as long as T.O. gets paid (like he is now) he would be a happy camper.
And we all know T.O., regardless of his off-the-field attitude, is a top-notch player and can help any team WIN.
Favre wants to win now, period. Do you think he really cares what bull#### T.O. will cause when Aaron Rodgers is throwing him the ball a year from now? (assuming Favre retires after one more season)
If I were the Packers G.M. the last thing I would do is make him happy by bringing in guys that will help the Pack "win now"... and by Win I mean maybe win that division and get stomped in the playoffs.
Because we all know the Pack aren't going anywhere regardless of how good Favre still thinks he is.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not one of those people who thinks Favre should RETIRE NOW BECAUSE HE'S DETROYING HIS LEGACY.
But to think he has earned immunity from any critisism for his holdout is a little much...
He is holding a franchise hostage right now and that is just not fair. Completely hypocritical behavior considering his comments about Walker last year. If this story is true, then well...
Lets assume this "source" is telling the truth. Yea, maybe it's a stretch, but hear me out...
Favre knows that T.O. would have to shut up and play this year. And he probly figured as long as T.O. gets paid (like he is now) he would be a happy camper.
And we all know T.O., regardless of his off-the-field attitude, is a top-notch player and can help any team WIN.
Favre wants to win now, period. Do you think he really cares what bull#### T.O. will cause when Aaron Rodgers is throwing him the ball a year from now? (assuming Favre retires after one more season)
If I were the Packers G.M. the last thing I would do is make him happy by bringing in guys that will help the Pack "win now"... and by Win I mean maybe win that division and get stomped in the playoffs.
Because we all know the Pack aren't going anywhere regardless of how good Favre still thinks he is.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not one of those people who thinks Favre should RETIRE NOW BECAUSE HE'S DETROYING HIS LEGACY.
But to think he has earned immunity from any critisism for his holdout is a little much...
He is holding a franchise hostage right now and that is just not fair. Completely hypocritical behavior considering his comments about Walker last year. If this story is true, then well...
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fatness
Footballguy
This is starting to remind me of the years in which the Washington media (especially John Thompson) would ask Lavar Arrington about what player moves he'd like to see, as if he was qualified.
I'm not sure Brett would be as good a GM as Arrington, though. Lavar can make up his mind.
I'm not sure Brett would be as good a GM as Arrington, though. Lavar can make up his mind.
Mike_James37
Footballguy
Thought T.O. would end up in Green Bay myself. I don't doubt this at all.
packersfan
Footballguy
Sorry about the Insider link. No direct quotes from Favre about TO, just part of a story Mortensen wrote which said Favre would have immediately announced his return if Thompson had signed TO.Here's that portion of the story:"insider"
any direct quotes from favre?
Favre has been waiting for the Packers to give him some hope. He even told general manager Ted Thompson that he'd come back instantly if the team would sign controversial wide receiver Terrell Owens. He wanted to see the Packers -- a huge revenue team despite their small-market status -- spend some of that $30 million of salary cap space on some quality blockers and, if not Owens, somebody else who could catch the ball in crunch time.
Thompson, one year into his job as the Packers GM, didn't want to swerve from his philosophy that the foundation of building a team is done through the draft first and then complemented by a key free agent signing or two and maybe a trade like his mentor, Wolf, had pulled off during Favre's heyday. Favre himself noted the free-agent signing of the late, great Reggie White as the catalyst to the team's Super Bowl runs.
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BrettFavre
Footballguy
Hell, he's the best in the league bringing down the ball while triple covered....
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
...and Favre is the best in the league at throwing into triple coverage. Sounds like a match made in heaven.
Tough As Nails
Glave Master
I side with Ted Thompson here. There isn't a quick fix for the 2006 Packers. No sense hurting the future to gain very little in the now.Sorry about the Insider link. No direct quotes from Favre about TO, just part of a story Mortensen wrote which said Favre would have immediately announced his return if Thompson had signed TO.Here's that portion of the story:"insider"
any direct quotes from favre?
Favre has been waiting for the Packers to give him some hope. He even told general manager Ted Thompson that he'd come back instantly if the team would sign controversial wide receiver Terrell Owens. He wanted to see the Packers -- a huge revenue team despite their small-market status -- spend some of that $30 million of salary cap space on some quality blockers and, if not Owens, somebody else who could catch the ball in crunch time.
Thompson, one year into his job as the Packers GM, didn't want to swerve from his philosophy that the foundation of building a team is done through the draft first and then complemented by a key free agent signing or two and maybe a trade like his mentor, Wolf, had pulled off during Favre's heyday. Favre himself noted the free-agent signing of the late, great Reggie White as the catalyst to the team's Super Bowl runs.
Red Apples
Footballguy
Farve gets cut and goes to cowboys?
A few questions
1. What does having 19 million in cap room do for a team. What a waste of money. You can afford to waste a little. It becomes 30 if you intentionally show nothing to Brett about wanting to win
2. At this point in time, is it about the money or about the SB. All Brett wants is a sign., He is not holding this franchise hostage. Thompson is holding this franchise hostage. He needs to get off the pot and make up his mind what he wants. Does he want to take this team on another playoff run or does he want to be in the Adrian Peterson/Brady Quinn sweepstakes. Make up your mind already you POS Thompson
3. Where the Packers one of the top revenue teams before the Brett legacy came along. Would a few losing seasons knock them from this spot. Would Brett retiring take away some of the cash flow. I would think so. I am a huge Packer fan but even I would not be spendful on a team that has a bunch of losing seasons. hard to chirp when your a losing team with friends. But I am not sure of the impact. I would assume there would be a financial impact. Maybe that is why POS Thompson is saving all his money.
1. What does having 19 million in cap room do for a team. What a waste of money. You can afford to waste a little. It becomes 30 if you intentionally show nothing to Brett about wanting to win
2. At this point in time, is it about the money or about the SB. All Brett wants is a sign., He is not holding this franchise hostage. Thompson is holding this franchise hostage. He needs to get off the pot and make up his mind what he wants. Does he want to take this team on another playoff run or does he want to be in the Adrian Peterson/Brady Quinn sweepstakes. Make up your mind already you POS Thompson
3. Where the Packers one of the top revenue teams before the Brett legacy came along. Would a few losing seasons knock them from this spot. Would Brett retiring take away some of the cash flow. I would think so. I am a huge Packer fan but even I would not be spendful on a team that has a bunch of losing seasons. hard to chirp when your a losing team with friends. But I am not sure of the impact. I would assume there would be a financial impact. Maybe that is why POS Thompson is saving all his money.
mozzy84
Footballguy
Ted should just cut Farve then if thats the thinking.I side with Ted Thompson here. There isn't a quick fix for the 2006 Packers. No sense hurting the future to gain very little in the now.Sorry about the Insider link. No direct quotes from Favre about TO, just part of a story Mortensen wrote which said Favre would have immediately announced his return if Thompson had signed TO.Here's that portion of the story:"insider"
any direct quotes from favre?
Favre has been waiting for the Packers to give him some hope. He even told general manager Ted Thompson that he'd come back instantly if the team would sign controversial wide receiver Terrell Owens. He wanted to see the Packers -- a huge revenue team despite their small-market status -- spend some of that $30 million of salary cap space on some quality blockers and, if not Owens, somebody else who could catch the ball in crunch time.
Thompson, one year into his job as the Packers GM, didn't want to swerve from his philosophy that the foundation of building a team is done through the draft first and then complemented by a key free agent signing or two and maybe a trade like his mentor, Wolf, had pulled off during Favre's heyday. Favre himself noted the free-agent signing of the late, great Reggie White as the catalyst to the team's Super Bowl runs.
sho nuff
Footballguy
So.....like other things with Mort...there are no direct quotes...just Mort's pondering on some things.He did this before with the sign someone and I will return stuff. yet never has Favre been quoted as saying that.Sorry about the Insider link. No direct quotes from Favre about TO, just part of a story Mortensen wrote which said Favre would have immediately announced his return if Thompson had signed TO.Here's that portion of the story:"insider"
any direct quotes from favre?
Favre has been waiting for the Packers to give him some hope. He even told general manager Ted Thompson that he'd come back instantly if the team would sign controversial wide receiver Terrell Owens. He wanted to see the Packers -- a huge revenue team despite their small-market status -- spend some of that $30 million of salary cap space on some quality blockers and, if not Owens, somebody else who could catch the ball in crunch time.
Thompson, one year into his job as the Packers GM, didn't want to swerve from his philosophy that the foundation of building a team is done through the draft first and then complemented by a key free agent signing or two and maybe a trade like his mentor, Wolf, had pulled off during Favre's heyday. Favre himself noted the free-agent signing of the late, great Reggie White as the catalyst to the team's Super Bowl runs.
Mort's credibility is not really going up this offseason with the way he is reporting some things.
Beergogglz
Footballguy
And I took it more to be about being a team player, which neither man has really been doing as of late....Walker wanted money...Favre wants to compete.There is nothing hypocritical about it.Completely hypocritical behavior considering his comments about Walker last year. If this story is true, then well...
Walker was threatening to breach his contract....Favre is not.
Man in the yellow hat
Footballguy
This is sooo off base I don't even know where to begin. Ted Thompson has been very clear from the beginning on what his plan is. Build through the draft, compliment with a FA or two. How hard is this to understand?The problem is people thinking there is a Reggie White out there to take this team to the promised land in one year. How soon we all forget that even with Reggie, Green Bay DID NOT win a Super Bowl in the first season. And would Steve Hutchinson suddenly make Green Bay a Super Bowl contender? NO. TO? NO. Even with both of those guys, the answer is NO.
Let's face reality here people. Green Bay is rebuilding. Now. That much is clear, and no amount of veteran FA signings is going to change that.
And I took it more to be about being a team player, which neither man has really been doing as of late....Walker wanted money...Favre wants to compete.There is nothing hypocritical about it.Completely hypocritical behavior considering his comments about Walker last year. If this story is true, then well...
Walker was threatening to breach his contract....Favre is not.
Red Apples
Footballguy
yeah, kind of had to, you know because of the facts.
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Tough As Nails
Glave Master
I disagree. The Packers are still better off (financially and on the field) by having Favre play another year. Cutting him isn't necessary because they are already under the cap.Ted should just cut Farve then if thats the thinking.I side with Ted Thompson here. There isn't a quick fix for the 2006 Packers. No sense hurting the future to gain very little in the now.Sorry about the Insider link. No direct quotes from Favre about TO, just part of a story Mortensen wrote which said Favre would have immediately announced his return if Thompson had signed TO.Here's that portion of the story:"insider"
any direct quotes from favre?
Favre has been waiting for the Packers to give him some hope. He even told general manager Ted Thompson that he'd come back instantly if the team would sign controversial wide receiver Terrell Owens. He wanted to see the Packers -- a huge revenue team despite their small-market status -- spend some of that $30 million of salary cap space on some quality blockers and, if not Owens, somebody else who could catch the ball in crunch time.
Thompson, one year into his job as the Packers GM, didn't want to swerve from his philosophy that the foundation of building a team is done through the draft first and then complemented by a key free agent signing or two and maybe a trade like his mentor, Wolf, had pulled off during Favre's heyday. Favre himself noted the free-agent signing of the late, great Reggie White as the catalyst to the team's Super Bowl runs.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
So why can't Favre figure that out and make his decision one way or another? He's either completely clueless/unrealistic about the Packers chances in 2006 or he is purposely hanging TT out to dry because he doesn't like him. Right?
Man in the yellow hat
Footballguy
I have no clue wtf he's thinking. I really don't. I said a few months ago that what he's really hoping for is to be cut. I still stand by those comments. He knows he can still play, but he doesn't want to play for a loser. Green Bay is not close to being good.But, he also doesn't want to be the bad guy and demand a trade or cut. Secretly, I think he's hoping he forces Ted Thompson into cutting him. That way, he saves face with Packer fans and gets to play somewhere else. I doubt Thompson will ever let that happen, but I really think that's Favre's desire.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
I agree with you on what Favre is really hoping for. My question is: Doesn't it seem underhanded to you? Does it make you think a little less of him? Does he really want to "screw up" the longer term rebuilding by blowing money so he can have one more average year? It just seems as if he is being much more selfish than I ever thought he was in the past. Of course, that may be what any competitor would do in his situation. Just a bit of a downer to me as someone who has always enjoyed watching him play. I'd love for him to say:"Look, I'd love to play one more year. But I don't think I can survive another year like last year. So if I'm still a Packer, I probably have to hang them up. But if I get a chance somewhere else, I could probably play another year."
Wouldn't that put the pressure back on TT? Or would the backlash from fans be against Favre?
redman
Footballguy
Translation: "It's all about Favre."favre is on record that this upcoming year will be his last should he return. why wouldn't you want TO under that situation? if it goes bad you won't be around anyway, but if everything clicks - the packers could have been an actual contender with a few big-time additions (like TO, arrington, woodson, 1.05...they have/had the cap space all along)The person who chewed Javon Walker's ### off in the media last year for not coming to camp - who then listened to his "leader" then blew out his knee - would have prefferred TO
Big Score
Footballguy
You know the more I look at this situation the more I think Favre is giving TT as much time as possible to make some impact moves. Favre wants to play, just not for what he sees as a sub standard team.
We can debate if this is an honorable move on Favre's part or not (waiting for the Team to improve), but I truly think this is why Favre is dragging it out.
We can debate if this is an honorable move on Favre's part or not (waiting for the Team to improve), but I truly think this is why Favre is dragging it out.
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
nittanylion
Footballguy
Oh, the irony...According to local Sporstalk 980 AM (DC/MD/VA Suburbs), LaVar Arrington has asked to speak to Brett Favre about his (Favre's) future plans before continuing his (LaVar's)current discussions with the Packers...
...sorry, no link, just heard this in a newsbreak at around 1:30
PM today...
Edited for clarity...
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Fla\/\/ed
Footballguy
That was also confirmed in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=415155
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Man in the yellow hat
Footballguy
There aren't guys out there who are going to turn this thing around overnight. There just aren't. Arrington? Nope. Woodson? Nope. Sorry, even with those guys, it doesn't mean they'll be more than a win or two better IMO. Those guys, to me, don't instantly make Green Bay a contender. It's funny how everyone is waiting for a magic pill that does not exist. As an aside, I think they've already improved by signing Pickett and Manuel, and having another year for Collins to grow. However, there are still an awful lot of holes on this team, especially on the OL and now at WR.Another
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