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Favre will play this year! (1 Viewer)
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ScottyFargo
Footballguy
Yeah. The Vikings gave him whatever he wanted, counting on the fact that he'd want to play again. All eggs in one basket is on the organization. It's not like they didn't know who he was. I mean, yeah, you want Favre over McNabb, so the chance at alienating Favre seems like a high cost, but when you gamble, sometimes you lose.
playin4beer
Footballguy
And I view it as the exact opposite....I'm sure i'm in the minority here, but I think ADP's value goes UP without "Gunslinger" Favre.No more 1st and goal on the 1yd line TD passes....feed the ball to the stud.
kylechoffman
Footballguy
Cue the Tavaris Jackson articles..
sho nuff
Footballguy
Possibly...but its always been funny in these threads where it gets blamed on Packer fans...yet you see a ton of hate from guys that are not Packer fans.As I have said in the other thread...most Packer fans here have moved on from him and are quite happy with Rodgers as our QB.The topic is still interesting as it affects the division and he is still a very strong character to discuss.
This.The big difference between Favre in Green Bay his last few seasons there and Favre in Minnesota?! Vikings fans knew not to fall on their swords or clink the beer steins together every time Favre sneezed or flushed. The Favre watch this off-season hasn't been much of a watch at all. A few stories here and there, but thank God ESPN was so distracted by LeBron: The Decision that they left the story alone.
Even if his ankle is a no-go and he's done, he gave us (Vikings fans) an absolutely outstanding 2009 season...and if not for a couple ADP fumbles and having to throw off one leg in the fourth quarter after a couple cheap shots by the Saints defense, we might have been toasting our fifth loss in Super Bowl history!
That San Fran game, that THRASHING of the Cowboys in the playoffs, the season series sweep of the Pack...even if we're back to TJax at QB in 2010, I wouldn't trade 2009 for much of anything.Cue the 2-3 Packer-Backer tools asking if I'd trade it for 4-5 rings from before I was born in 5....4....3....2....
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Winky the tunnel ferret
Footballguy
I must be a Packer, Jets, or Vikings fan in order to understand why so much hate is being spewed for this guy?
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Whoa, whoa, whoa... facts aren't allowed in this discussion!
Mr. Fusion
Footballguy
This forum needs a :troll: smileyGo ahead and take him top 5 then, and expect 8 man fronts all season. He won't last long facing that. I'll pass..
identikit
Footballguy
It's really not that simple.
sho nuff
Footballguy
This.The big difference between Favre in Green Bay his last few seasons there and Favre in Minnesota?! Vikings fans knew not to fall on their swords or clink the beer steins together every time Favre sneezed or flushed. The Favre watch this off-season hasn't been much of a watch at all. A few stories here and there, but thank God ESPN was so distracted by LeBron: The Decision that they left the story alone.
Even if his ankle is a no-go and he's done, he gave us (Vikings fans) an absolutely outstanding 2009 season...and if not for a couple ADP fumbles and having to throw off one leg in the fourth quarter after a couple cheap shots by the Saints defense, we might have been toasting our fifth loss in Super Bowl history!
Cue the 2-3 Packer-Backer tools asking if I'd trading it for 4-5 rings from before I was born in 5....4....3....2....
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I'm sure most of Packer nation is content with Rodgers. I know I am as a defacto Packer fan from the time in St. Louis when we didn't have a team and I loved watching Don the Magic Man and Reggie White. But there is a feeling of a lack of class on Favre's part with the whole deal and this compounds it.Not at all saying that all Packer fan are in this boat. Just some of the more vocal ones....
ICON211
Footballguy
Did the other QBs have their teams begging them to come back and telling them they had as much time as they wanted? Lots of stupid going on in this thread. This is a 40 year old man who suffered an ankle injury that might not be healing right. The team told him to take as long as he needed and hopefully the ankle would respond to the point he could play. The Vikings would rather him try to come back than retire and thats what he did by having the surgery.ADP's value does not go down the toilet.The Vikings will not be going after Drew Brees any harder than already would have.
whitem0nkey
Footballguy
Whats the under over on the numbers of time he changes his mind before week 1?
If he does not comeback the vikings are still a good team that should get 9 maybe 10 wins.
If he does not comeback the vikings are still a good team that should get 9 maybe 10 wins.
Donsmith753
Footballguy
New here?
flyonthewall
Footballguy
Is this real? This is a joke right?Go ahead and take him top 5 then, and expect 8 man fronts all season. He won't last long facing that. I'll pass..
scott72
Footballguy
Yup..
scott72
Footballguy
Laugh all you want and go ahead and draft him top 2. Don't say you weren't warned.His Odometer is higher? The guy turned 25 in March.
sho nuff
Footballguy
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5150940April 30th...so at least by then...not sure when he was first told though.
Donsmith753
Footballguy
Even if he comes out and says it's true today what are the chances he changes his mind? Or would he not have the balls to do that again?
So teams won't be able to stack the line against St. Louis? Steven Jackson has more miles, more injuries, and much worse WRs than Minn, with or without Favre. Oh, and a rookie QB. I'm not seeing the logic here.
Phurfur
Footballguy
Favre first started talking about retirement in 2002.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
20 Team league? I can see how QBs would be scarce since there are only 32 of them starting at any one time.And I picked him up a week ago.(Disclosure - its a 20 team dynasty that WAY overvalues QBs. He's the only arm I could get that had even a remote chance of playing)
Donsmith753
Footballguy
Could "this is it" refer to their one last chance at the Superbowl?
Seems very vague. Or maybe Brett really likes Michael Jackson films.
Seems very vague. Or maybe Brett really likes Michael Jackson films.
scott72
Footballguy
I'm just toying with you man. I don't know how I'd re-arrange my draft list at this point, just saying I'm dropping AP down a few notches.
identikit
Footballguy
PFT's take:
Our take: Brett Favre will play
Posted by Mike Florio on August 3, 2010 11:32 AM ET
We've seen the reports from Judd Zulgad and Jay Glazer. We have no reason to doubt them.
Brett Favre has told the Vikings that he will not play in 2010, citing his lingering ankle problem and other physical wear and tear.
That's fine. We believe he said it. We believe he believes it.
But we also believe Favre will play again.
He'll be in the Superdome on the evening of September 9, when the Vikings face the Saints to start the 2010 season. He'll be there. He'll be in uniform. He'll play.
We believe that in part because we rarely believe anything anyone connected to the NFL says. We've developed that attitude because, on too many past occasions, a player or a coach or a G.M. or an owner says one thing, and then does the exact opposite.
As it relates to Favre, his own history supports the conclusion that he'll be back. He retired in 2008. He later reiterated his intention to call it quits, scoffing at rumors that he hoped to return for another season.
He retired in 2009. In late July, he told the Vikings that he would not join them. Then, just as many of us began to believe that he really was finished, Favre returned.
This year, whether he's consciously doing it or not, Favre needs to once again convince us that he won't come back, for two reasons.
First, he needs the Vikings fans to rejoice when Lord Favre rides in on a white steed to save the team from a return to mediocrity. And they won't rejoice unless they first believe in their hearts that Prince Graybeard isn't coming.
Second, he needs an excuse for his own potential mediocrity. In his quest to ride off into the sunset with a Lombardi Trophy tucked into the back pocket of his Wranglers, Favre fears embarrassing himself. So if he plays poorly, it can't happen because he's lost his magic. There needs to be a good reason for a Willie Mays/Joe Namath/John Unitas end to his career unrelated to whether he can still bring it.
Last year, it was a biceps tendon, along with an assortment of maladies that he cited multiple times prior to the start of the season, so that we all knew that if he stunk it up it happened because of his battle scars, not because he's no longer good enough.
This year, it's his ankle. The one on which he had supposedly minor surgery. The one that all of a sudden is preventing him from doing the stuff a quarterback does with his legs.
(Maybe he simply was concerned that he'd fail the conditioning test.)
Either way, he'll be back. We joked yesterday that maybe he wants more money. Whether he wants it or not, look for the Vikings to throw a few extra million onto the $13 million base salary he's due to earn this year. And look for anyone named Wilf to bend a knee and beg Favre to change his mind.
And then look for Favre to reluctantly comply. Possibly as late as the eve of the start of full-blown preparation for the regular-season opener, making Brett's Third Annual Unretirement the dominant story over Labor Day Weekend.
Heck, it's also possible that he never even goes to Minnesota before joining the team, and that he simply jumps the puddles between Hattiesburg to New Orleans, walks into the locker room, belts out a verse or two of Pants on the Ground, asks for a helmet, slaps a few asses, and tells his teammates that it's time to go take care of unfinished business.
When it happens, it will be dramatic. It will be memorable. It will be great.
That's precisely why Favre has decided to retire now. He knows -- whether he's even able to admit it to himself or anyone else -- that he needs to build the drama. And the drama will indeed build.
And come early September we'll all learn what we've suspected for the entire offseason.
Brett Favre will play.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...play/?related=1
Our take: Brett Favre will play
Posted by Mike Florio on August 3, 2010 11:32 AM ET
We've seen the reports from Judd Zulgad and Jay Glazer. We have no reason to doubt them.
Brett Favre has told the Vikings that he will not play in 2010, citing his lingering ankle problem and other physical wear and tear.
That's fine. We believe he said it. We believe he believes it.
But we also believe Favre will play again.
He'll be in the Superdome on the evening of September 9, when the Vikings face the Saints to start the 2010 season. He'll be there. He'll be in uniform. He'll play.
We believe that in part because we rarely believe anything anyone connected to the NFL says. We've developed that attitude because, on too many past occasions, a player or a coach or a G.M. or an owner says one thing, and then does the exact opposite.
As it relates to Favre, his own history supports the conclusion that he'll be back. He retired in 2008. He later reiterated his intention to call it quits, scoffing at rumors that he hoped to return for another season.
He retired in 2009. In late July, he told the Vikings that he would not join them. Then, just as many of us began to believe that he really was finished, Favre returned.
This year, whether he's consciously doing it or not, Favre needs to once again convince us that he won't come back, for two reasons.
First, he needs the Vikings fans to rejoice when Lord Favre rides in on a white steed to save the team from a return to mediocrity. And they won't rejoice unless they first believe in their hearts that Prince Graybeard isn't coming.
Second, he needs an excuse for his own potential mediocrity. In his quest to ride off into the sunset with a Lombardi Trophy tucked into the back pocket of his Wranglers, Favre fears embarrassing himself. So if he plays poorly, it can't happen because he's lost his magic. There needs to be a good reason for a Willie Mays/Joe Namath/John Unitas end to his career unrelated to whether he can still bring it.
Last year, it was a biceps tendon, along with an assortment of maladies that he cited multiple times prior to the start of the season, so that we all knew that if he stunk it up it happened because of his battle scars, not because he's no longer good enough.
This year, it's his ankle. The one on which he had supposedly minor surgery. The one that all of a sudden is preventing him from doing the stuff a quarterback does with his legs.
(Maybe he simply was concerned that he'd fail the conditioning test.)
Either way, he'll be back. We joked yesterday that maybe he wants more money. Whether he wants it or not, look for the Vikings to throw a few extra million onto the $13 million base salary he's due to earn this year. And look for anyone named Wilf to bend a knee and beg Favre to change his mind.
And then look for Favre to reluctantly comply. Possibly as late as the eve of the start of full-blown preparation for the regular-season opener, making Brett's Third Annual Unretirement the dominant story over Labor Day Weekend.
Heck, it's also possible that he never even goes to Minnesota before joining the team, and that he simply jumps the puddles between Hattiesburg to New Orleans, walks into the locker room, belts out a verse or two of Pants on the Ground, asks for a helmet, slaps a few asses, and tells his teammates that it's time to go take care of unfinished business.
When it happens, it will be dramatic. It will be memorable. It will be great.
That's precisely why Favre has decided to retire now. He knows -- whether he's even able to admit it to himself or anyone else -- that he needs to build the drama. And the drama will indeed build.
And come early September we'll all learn what we've suspected for the entire offseason.
Brett Favre will play.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...play/?related=1
Hoart Petterson
Footballguy
Urinal Mint
Footballguy
Won't play in training camp, maybe. He'll suit it up the last weekend of August when he doesn't have to practice.
shader
Footballguy
Minnesota made a HUGE gamble to rest their hopes on Favre. The guy is 40 freaking years old and got his ankles torn up last year.
You would think that the organization would make some kind of move to get a backup.
This tells me either:
A) They believed 100% that Favre was coming back
B) They beleive in Tavaris Jackson
Jackson makes this a 8-9 win team, imo. It also significantly hurts Rice/Harvin. I don't think there's a question about that.
ADP is unaffected, and might even be a little better without Favre, who passes so much.
You would think that the organization would make some kind of move to get a backup.
This tells me either:
A) They believed 100% that Favre was coming back
B) They beleive in Tavaris Jackson
Jackson makes this a 8-9 win team, imo. It also significantly hurts Rice/Harvin. I don't think there's a question about that.
ADP is unaffected, and might even be a little better without Favre, who passes so much.
Winky the tunnel ferret
Footballguy
After 8 years of his crap it grows tiresome.And honestly, how many of you are willing to bet he really is retiring? Even with these reports?
Abraham
Footballguy
And passing TDs are worth six, so the top 20 scorers each year usually consists of 17 QBs, 2 RBs, and 1 WR...20 Team league? I can see how QBs would be scarce since there are only 32 of them starting at any one time.And I picked him up a week ago.
sho nuff
Footballguy
They might be able to talk him into it...not sure...once a season starts without him and he can't play til after week 6...wonder if he would see it as finally being over for sure then.
Reaper
Footballguy
WHOA.... IMO, leave Jets fans out of it... I don't think he ever Jilted the Jets - they moved on and IMO, the 1 year with Favre was FANTASTIC.... I enjoyed it - I enjoyed watching Favre more than I ever have and I think people in the organization loved having a round for a season. Cotchery said it was the most fun he ever had!!!!!!THANK YOU BRETT FAVRE !!!!!
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Jealousy is nothing short of ugly.Farve has never been on a team I liked and I have nothing but respect for the guy. For those that can't stand him, one day you'll miss him and realize he made the NFL a better sport. When I'm 60 years old and talking to my grandchildren about some of the great NFL players I've seen in my time, Brett Farve will be somewhere on the top of that list. A true warrior, played the game the way it was supposed to be played. I thank him for the time he gave us. I believe he has records that will NEVER be broken.
One
Not Allowed In Mexico
I agree with everything except this. Peterson won't score 14 TDs from inside the 3 like he did in last year's offense....but more carries and yards ala '08? Yep.
CB31
Footballguy
Watch out, JaMarcus might come back and start throwing picks at his normal rate
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I dont really understand that. His ankle isn't responding the way he had hoped, there are other parts of his body that are also probably starting to hurt more now than ever but planned on playing IF the healing process would have been easier or faster. He's said all along what his intentions are, were we listening, were the Vikings listening?
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Watch out, JaMarcus might come back and start throwing picks at his normal rate
True, that one too may not be broken. But to throw that many picks, you'll have to play a long long time or do a lot of things right to deserve to throw those picks and still see the field.
Phurfur
Footballguy
Please!
I'll take him at 5 all day long. I hope he falls.
John 14:6
Jesus is Lord!
That's how I feel as a Viking fan. If Brett really doesn't return this season, I still thank him for what he did for us last year!
TheFanatic
Footballguy
To what? Second string?
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Will believe this once the paperwork is filed with the NFL. Until then..
shamrock84
Footballguy
That's how I feel as a Viking fan. If Brett really doesn't return this season, I still thank him for what he did for us last year!
I asked my 7-year old son last week if he would rather go down to Detroit to see the Lions lose to the Packers or see the Lions lose to Brett Favre with the Vikings.
He said: "Brett Favre, Dad. I can always see the Lions lose to the Packers but Brett is OLD and they beat him up pretty bad last year".
Wisdom beyond his years, this one.
He said: "Brett Favre, Dad. I can always see the Lions lose to the Packers but Brett is OLD and they beat him up pretty bad last year".
Wisdom beyond his years, this one.
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