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baronson

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a lot has been written in this forum about the FBG hype machine, and generally its people complaining. but i think this season they've done pretty well. here are the guys they were hyping the most this offseason (1 = a little hype, 5 = lots of hype):

- Ben Watson (4) - all in all, he's falling short of the hype. he does have the 4th most yardage of all TEs, but is missing the red zone looks. i think Gabriel's arrival affected him negatively, and that happened after many drafts. i have a hard time saying FBG was wrong on this one.

- Jerrious Norwood (4) - has done nothing to disappoint. we all knew his opportunities would be limited, what we didn't know was he might be the most explosive runner out there. got to say they were right on the money here.

- Wali Lundy (5) - ouch. although i think anyone resting their FF season on the supposed starting RB in Houston deserves what they get. but FBG was way off base on this guy.

- Winslow Jr (2) - they pegged him as a value pick, and as the top TE thus far, they had it right.

- McNabb (3) - also said he looked great, and would far outperform his ADP. uhhh... yea. i think so. 33% better than Peyton thus far. nice.

- Kevin Jones (3) - may still be too early to tell, but it looks like the level of hype panned out in performance so far. he'll have a nice season, and they more or less convinced me to hang onto him in my keep 3 league. glad i did so.

- Chris Simms (2) - ruptured spleen notwithstanding, the whole TB team is in shambles. good thing they didn't go too crazy.

- Frank Gore (4) - also has done nothing to disappoint. can't exactly predict a fumbling problem when a guy's never had the opportunity. still is far outplaying his ADP. good call by FBG.

- Maurice Drew (3) - he's opening eyes. at least, those who don't read FBG. they pegged this one rather well. he's turning into a nice late-round steal.

- Antonio Bryant (2) - pretty much in line with what was expected thus far.

- Troy Williamson (3) - falling pretty short of what FBG was touting preseason. still may come around, but so far he's a let down. needs to get in the endzone... and hang onto it.

i may be forgetting some, but for the most part, i'd say the FBG hype train is pretty money. the Lundy thing i have to admit, i always thought was bogus (i actually thought Morency would be the guy there), but no one cares about that. basically, what i learned for next year is to pay attention to the hype, but give it a grain of salt when it sounds over the top. it seems the guys they talk up the MOST, are the ones most likely to disappoint, even though it's still not that common. and like i said before, Watson's situation changed when Gabriel came in, although i didn't see FBG adjusting their projections all that much at the time.

in any event, this was pretty much for me to sort it all out and make note of how they stacked up. i'd say pretty well.

 
I've been very happy with FBG's track record so far. In my two league's, I'm 1st and 3rd in points thanks largely to FBG draft tools and articles.

 
I don't think hype is the right word but nonetheless, I don't like to look at their average rankings. I understand how you're going with some cumulative view on a player but I like when Maurile has one guy way higher than Carlton and such.

I'd rather see it broken down that way, per person, BUT I wouldn't want it to become a bash session and I understand if Shick!'s "dead on" this year it's possible he's not next year so...might be a waste of time

 
IIRC, Joe on the boards, Doug in his Perfect Drafts, and Chase in the QBBCs were hyping up Aaron Brooks, Kurt Warner, and Brett Favre.

 
I love the FBG's info. I've been using them for the last 10 years now and have been successful probably 80% of the time.

Currently, thanks to FBG's, I am 3-1 in both of my main money leagues. However, I am also 1-3 in two other leagues...WITH GUPPIES NO LESS! I chalk that debacle up to the luck factor and screwy scoring systems.

 
I love the FBG's info. I've been using them for the last 10 years now and have been successful probably 80% of the time.Currently, thanks to FBG's, I am 3-1 in both of my main money leagues. However, I am also 1-3 in two other leagues...WITH GUPPIES NO LESS! I chalk that debacle up to the luck factor and screwy scoring systems.
I also have to say I'm very happy with FBG's. NO ONE out there is right 100% of the time, but in general FBG's got their predictions pretty much on the money. And yes, I was one of those who took Lundy late in one of my drafts. But you have to take their hype of Lundy for what it was (imho)... they were predicting a long shot who could do much better than predicted. But if you drafted him as something OTHER than a long shot, I think you were misreading what FBGs were saying. And to those who are complaining... you didn't expect them to be PERFECT did you? :D
 
Touchy subject with me. I might be having a bad run.... but, both the last two seasons as a subscriber I've started 0-4. Prior to that I've never missed playoffs in over 10 years.

I relied on pre-draft rankings last 2 years and should have stuck with my own gut... probably need to goto the vent thread.

Players overhyped I can think of:

Miami players - everyone seemed to have miami pegged as this machine... and it just reeks. Even the defense wasn't ranked at bottom.

Cadillac Williams

Reggie Bush

Warner

Edge ( he was ranked as top 10 RB)

Then again... I have to say this is a weird year. Look at the C.Johnsons, etc... Guess I get to work the WW miracle and hope to get the last wildcard again.

MG

 
Touchy subject with me. I might be having a bad run.... but, both the last two seasons as a subscriber I've started 0-4. Prior to that I've never missed playoffs in over 10 years.I relied on pre-draft rankings last 2 years and should have stuck with my own gut... probably need to goto the vent thread.Players overhyped I can think of:Miami players - everyone seemed to have miami pegged as this machine... and it just reeks. Even the defense wasn't ranked at bottom.Cadillac WilliamsReggie BushWarnerEdge ( he was ranked as top 10 RB)Then again... I have to say this is a weird year. Look at the C.Johnsons, etc... Guess I get to work the WW miracle and hope to get the last wildcard again.MG
Yeah, I feel your pain... but to be fair, most of those guys were hyped by everyone, not just FBGs. And it is a wierd year.
 
Kit Fisto said:
videoguy505 said:
IIRC, Joe on the boards, Doug in his Perfect Drafts, and Chase in the QBBCs were hyping up Aaron Brooks, Kurt Warner, and Brett Favre.
Don't forget Earnest Wilford.
If Jones continues to be gimpy Wilford could end up panning out. Still a lot of football left to be played.
 
- Frank Gore (4) - also has done nothing to disappoint. can't exactly predict a fumbling problem when a guy's never had the opportunity. still is far outplaying his ADP. good call by FBG.

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Gore has had 2 great games and 2 lack luster games,

a mixed bag for Frank Gore thus far, imo.

 
To some extent, its absolutely necessary for them to hype players they like. Any site/staff could throw together tired rankings and news and charge you for it.

Here, there is no mistake who these guys have their eyes on and have no hesitation in saying "keep your eye on this guy". Its always based on sound reasoning, opportunity and as much as possible the ability the player has shown in the past.

Sure they miss on some, so do all of us. But its those ones that pan out that make your season. Joe liked Lundy and made no bones about saying it. The guy won the starting job coming out of the gate, but couldnt do anything with it. They pegged the guy and the situation perfectly. Huge upside, huge value, hardly anyone that didnt pay close attention even knew who he was when we drafted him. Regardless the homework you do, the hours of projections, etc, its still a crapshoot in many ways. All you can do is target some of those guys that have great chances to outperform where you snatched em.

 
Kit Fisto said:
videoguy505 said:
IIRC, Joe on the boards, Doug in his Perfect Drafts, and Chase in the QBBCs were hyping up Aaron Brooks, Kurt Warner, and Brett Favre.
Don't forget Earnest Wilford.
If Jones continues to be gimpy Wilford could end up panning out. Still a lot of football left to be played.
It wasn't so much that Wilford would or wouldn't pan out, it was generally considered that Reggie Williams was a bust. I remember him being compared to JJ Stokes. :rolleyes: Oops.As an addition, the Marion Barber hype was ridiculous.
 
Do you mean the message board UBERhype, or the paid content hyping of certain players?

If its the former, then I have to disagree - from Barlow, to Barlow the next year, to Barlow the next year.... to Trung Candidate, and Trung again the next year, to Davenport, and Daven... you get the idea.

Not only is hype on these boards often out of control, but it is damn persistent in the face of failure of said hyped player. :shrug:

 

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