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FBG Mock Draft '25 - 32 GMs confirmed - All Systems Go! (7 Viewers)

Stoneworker said:
@Ministry of Pain when approximately are you expecting to kick this off with Rd 1?
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Good question, we just launched yesterday and we're doing pretty well filling up the slots, I'd probbly be OK with assigning a 2nd team a handful so we can get things rolling soon.
I would say after we get the teams assigned and we do a quick agreement of the rules
It's not super common that teams trade future picks on Draft Day, many times though it can happen on the weeks leading up to it.

I'm guessing most would like to start ASAP
We will do our best
 
@ChiefD
Can you handle the Chiefs?

-I haven't had a chance to discuss this much as we are scrambling just to get this moving
One of the things I notice when I look at the depth charts on Ourlads which has the year plus the round in which the players on the team were drafted.
Both the Chiefs and Eagles who went to the Super Bowl last year and also 2 seasons prior to that, the cream of the NFL, both teams are loaded with draft selections
Both teams have free agents but it's not the core of the team typically.

My point is the Draft is so critical for the long term success of the team.
KC understands that and tries to improve as much as possible thru their drafts
 
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BobbyLayne said:
Ministry of Pain said:
One of the things I find interesting thus far is not a single team has multiple picks in the 1st round
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Every single team has their first round pick for the 2025 draft.

If every team drafts a player it will be the first time in the 32 team NFL era (2002) that every team used a first round pick.
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Would you mind stepping in and taking the Cleveland Browns?
The two folks I thought would be shoe-ins are both concerned about time commitments, I respect that

If you take the Browns at No 2 and if there is any issue with time, I'll be happy to be the Asst GM for you.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
BobbyLayne said:
Ministry of Pain said:
One of the things I find interesting thus far is not a single team has multiple picks in the 1st round
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Every single team has their first round pick for the 2025 draft.

If every team drafts a player it will be the first time in the 32 team NFL era (2002) that every team used a first round pick.
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Would you mind stepping in and taking the Cleveland Browns?
The two folks I thought would be shoe-ins are both concerned about time commitments, I respect that

If you take the Browns at No 2 and if there is any issue with time, I'll be happy to be the Asst GM for you.
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Sorry, would not be able to do it justice and presently a bit stretched for time.
 
BobbyLayne said:
Ministry of Pain said:
BobbyLayne said:
Ministry of Pain said:
One of the things I find interesting thus far is not a single team has multiple picks in the 1st round
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Every single team has their first round pick for the 2025 draft.

If every team drafts a player it will be the first time in the 32 team NFL era (2002) that every team used a first round pick.
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Would you mind stepping in and taking the Cleveland Browns?
The two folks I thought would be shoe-ins are both concerned about time commitments, I respect that

If you take the Browns at No 2 and if there is any issue with time, I'll be happy to be the Asst GM for you.
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Sorry, would not be able to do it justice and presently a bit stretched for time.
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The Lions are another team that is loaded with juicy draft picks the Lions have made in recent seasons sine DC arrived
I am so happy for the Motor City to be back.
I'm 50 and outside of a couple Wayne Fontes seasons and some hope when Stafford and Megatron were there, this by far is the most success I've ever seen there
And they are likely to remain relevant for quite a long time

-The Dolphins after about Week 3 or 4 in 2023, the hype train was in motion but went nowhere and in '24 they fell back to another 8-9 season
What the Lions have built is going to sustain them for years to come. They didn't Draft Goff but they traded Stafford who they drafted and the Rams drafted Goff, it's not the same thing as a team that signs a free agent at QB, outside of the Bucs/Brady those type of moves don't usually pan out.

What I'm saying is you could list the Lions next to the Eagles and Chiefs on my example of how critical the Draft is for most
 
Ben & Jerry's said:
I'll take the Chiefs (or any other open team)
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Chiefs in the house
5 teams left!
We will likely be able to get a "Rules" post up by tonight and maybe start the Draft as early as tomorrow

-We might be able to start by tomorrow and I think we likely can get thru the 1st round before the end of the weekend
Next week we can get thru rounds 2 and 3, we'll have time before the NFL Draft April 26th-28th in Green Bay!!!
 
As a general guide I am going to write out some expectations

-When you know you are about 4-5 picks out and maybe sooner you need to get your short list of players together
Try not to be the person who says "Vegas GM took the guy I really wanted, I need time to think about it"
The NFL teams typically get about 5-10 minutes max when they are on the clock and they've already tried to move selections

-I have an idea that just came to me as I am writing this but let's see if this vibes with what we want to do here.
Once the 32 GMs are in place w/handful of GMs maybe running 2 of them, we should think about 24-48 hours of just trade discussion
Rather than GMs waiting on the clock which I won't allow, why not take a day or two and enjoy the reason most of you signed up to act as a team GM
Most teams get their deals done ahead of the Draft, sometimes they trade in the middle but many times those deals are discussed prior and are predicated on. certain player being there

I would support something like this so when the Draft starts, most teams know what they are going to do
I stated the Dolphins at No 13 are looking to trade DOWN!
Another GM already expressed interest in trading down so if you are a GM picking in the 20s and you want to move up to get an impact player, you know who to hit up

-I want to thank the Shark Pool for making this very easy so far assembling GMs, we just put this up Monday afternoon and it's only Wed Morning in the off season, there simple isn't the same amount of traffic in here, but the folks who are here are typically some of our strongest posters (y)
 
Tau837 said:
Ministry of Pain said:
@Tau837 @Gr00vus
Who is gonna draft for the Bolts?
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I will take the Chargers.
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I may need to caveat given some discussion about being on the clock. I should have no problem making a Chargers pick within 10 minutes once I know they are on the clock, But I might not be able to check this thread for several hours at a time. If that is a problem, someone else will need to take the Chargers, and I will just critique their picks. :-)
 
Uruk-Hai said:
I'll take Baltimore, MoP, though I may need some help with the prospects if someone's willing.
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The Ravens are a strong football team, shoe in to make the Playoffs most years and it's a lot more than Jackson at QB, the team has been well run for a long time.
I know Henry investors won't like it when I say this but I think the Ravens could make a big splash by grabbing one of the better RBs in a deep class this year

Henry is not going to play forever and he was a short term signing for them.
I think they would be wise to get someone dynamic enough so they can limit the touches on Henry and save him for the Playoffs

RB is probably not on the radar to many but I feel like the Ravens will never be a pass 1st team, might as well be very deep and dynamic at the RB position
I feel like DB is an area they need some real help with but maybe I have that wrong. I feel like in the game threads last season the fans were bitching about it
 
Tau837 said:
Tau837 said:
Ministry of Pain said:
@Tau837 @Gr00vus
Who is gonna draft for the Bolts?
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I will take the Chargers.
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I may need to caveat given some discussion about being on the clock. I should have no problem making a Chargers pick within 10 minutes once I know they are on the clock, But I might not be able to check this thread for several hours at a time. If that is a problem, someone else will need to take the Chargers, and I will just critique their picks. :-)
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It's a guideline, I just want to remind folks we are not drafting a start up dynasty or a Redraft in April and can just let the clock run for 24 hours, that's all I'm saying.
Every night things will slow down, we'll have some dry patches during the day as a lot of people work jobs where they can't just scroll this thread, we understand
 
Ministry of Pain said:
Uruk-Hai said:
I'll take Baltimore, MoP, though I may need some help with the prospects if someone's willing.
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The Ravens are a strong football team, shoe in to make the Playoffs most years and it's a lot more than Jackson at QB, the team has been well run for a long time.
I know Henry investors won't like it when I say this but I think the Ravens could make a big splash by grabbing one of the better RBs in a deep class this year

Henry is not going to play forever and he was a short term signing for them.
I think they would be wise to get someone dynamic enough so they can limit the touches on Henry and save him for the Playoffs

RB is probably not on the radar to many but I feel like the Ravens will never be a pass 1st team, might as well be very deep and dynamic at the RB position
I feel like DB is an area they need some real help with but maybe I have that wrong. I feel like in the game threads last season the fans were bitching about it
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I don't follow the Ravens, but they do have Keaton Mitchell. He was recovering from injury last season but in 2023 he averaged 8.4 ypc and 10.3 ypr, with 24 first downs on 56 touches. Granted, that was a small sample size, but he was impressive and seemingly complements Henry well. That may not preclude the Ravens from drafting a RB, but it would be at least a mild surprise to me if they draft one in the top 2 rounds.
 
Tau837 said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Uruk-Hai said:
I'll take Baltimore, MoP, though I may need some help with the prospects if someone's willing.
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The Ravens are a strong football team, shoe in to make the Playoffs most years and it's a lot more than Jackson at QB, the team has been well run for a long time.
I know Henry investors won't like it when I say this but I think the Ravens could make a big splash by grabbing one of the better RBs in a deep class this year

Henry is not going to play forever and he was a short term signing for them.
I think they would be wise to get someone dynamic enough so they can limit the touches on Henry and save him for the Playoffs

RB is probably not on the radar to many but I feel like the Ravens will never be a pass 1st team, might as well be very deep and dynamic at the RB position
I feel like DB is an area they need some real help with but maybe I have that wrong. I feel like in the game threads last season the fans were bitching about it
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I don't follow the Ravens, but they do have Keaton Mitchell. He was recovering from injury last season but in 2023 he averaged 8.4 ypc and 10.3 ypr, with 24 first downs on 56 touches. Granted, that was a small sample size, but he was impressive and seemingly complements Henry well. That may not preclude the Ravens from drafting a RB, but it would be at least a mild surprise to me if they draft one in the top 2 rounds.
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I forgot about him, you're right
Still think they could do a lot of good by building a 2-3 headed monster at RB
The Bucs were running a pretty nice machine at RB last season, wasn't 100% Bucky Irving although I would say he is the lead dawg at this point
 
Tau837 said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Uruk-Hai said:
I'll take Baltimore, MoP, though I may need some help with the prospects if someone's willing.
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The Ravens are a strong football team, shoe in to make the Playoffs most years and it's a lot more than Jackson at QB, the team has been well run for a long time.
I know Henry investors won't like it when I say this but I think the Ravens could make a big splash by grabbing one of the better RBs in a deep class this year

Henry is not going to play forever and he was a short term signing for them.
I think they would be wise to get someone dynamic enough so they can limit the touches on Henry and save him for the Playoffs

RB is probably not on the radar to many but I feel like the Ravens will never be a pass 1st team, might as well be very deep and dynamic at the RB position
I feel like DB is an area they need some real help with but maybe I have that wrong. I feel like in the game threads last season the fans were bitching about it
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I don't follow the Ravens, but they do have Keaton Mitchell. He was recovering from injury last season but in 2023 he averaged 8.4 ypc and 10.3 ypr, with 24 first downs on 56 touches. Granted, that was a small sample size, but he was impressive and seemingly complements Henry well. That may not preclude the Ravens from drafting a RB, but it would be at least a mild surprise to me if they draft one in the top 2 rounds.
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They also have Justice Hill, who is a good fit for Baltimore (even though FFers hate him).
 
I am going to go ahead with the idea of making the first 24 hours time for GMs to quickly do any research needed and also think about whether they want to trade up or not

I've done this example a couple times but I'll show you a fairly straight forward trade example.
-Miami decides to trade down from No 13 when the Seattle Seahawks call them and dangle the No 52 pick in the 2nd round. Seattle has 2 picks in the 2nd and they want to move up 5 spots in the first round to secure the player they want. Grier/MoP ask for the No 50 pick to move in front of Seattle in the 2nd round but the Seahawks don't bend and with no better offers on the table the Dolphins accept and move down from 13 to 18 and acquire the No 52 pick in the Draft.

Seattle also could have traded the 2nd in '26 but here's the thing, as a GM in this thread I would want more picks that I can select and discuss right now. Plus those future picks won't mean anything when we fire up the Mock Draft '26 thread next year. I would encourage folks to try and only use the future picks as maybe a cherry on the top of a solid trade involving this year's draft picks.

But I'm not the Boss here, just a tour guide mostly and I would like some feedback on how you all feel about it.
And any other ideas you all have, now is the time to post them up so we can discuss.

Thanks
 
Ministry of Pain said:
I am going to go ahead with the idea of making the first 24 hours time for GMs to quickly do any research needed and also think about whether they want to trade up or not

I've done this example a couple times but I'll show you a fairly straight forward trade example.
-Miami decides to trade down from No 13 when the Seattle Seahawks call them and dangle the No 52 pick in the 2nd round. Seattle has 2 picks in the 2nd and they want to move up 5 spots in the first round to secure the player they want. Grier/MoP ask for the No 50 pick to move in front of Seattle in the 2nd round but the Seahawks don't bend and with no better offers on the table the Dolphins accept and move down from 13 to 18 and acquire the No 52 pick in the Draft.

Seattle also could have traded the 2nd in '26 but here's the thing, as a GM in this thread I would want more picks that I can select and discuss right now. Plus those future picks won't mean anything when we fire up the Mock Draft '26 thread next year. I would encourage folks to try and only use the future picks as maybe a cherry on the top of a solid trade involving this year's draft picks.

But I'm not the Boss here, just a tour guide mostly and I would like some feedback on how you all feel about it.
And any other ideas you all have, now is the time to post them up so we can discuss.

Thanks
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Without any blue chip QBs I doubt we'll see too many trades in a real draft. Seems like there are a few guys considered top tier and then a bunch of players lumped together 5-40+. You could see some "on the clock" stuff per usual, but teams moving around pre-draft is unlikely.
 
Grahamburn said:
Ministry of Pain said:
I am going to go ahead with the idea of making the first 24 hours time for GMs to quickly do any research needed and also think about whether they want to trade up or not

I've done this example a couple times but I'll show you a fairly straight forward trade example.
-Miami decides to trade down from No 13 when the Seattle Seahawks call them and dangle the No 52 pick in the 2nd round. Seattle has 2 picks in the 2nd and they want to move up 5 spots in the first round to secure the player they want. Grier/MoP ask for the No 50 pick to move in front of Seattle in the 2nd round but the Seahawks don't bend and with no better offers on the table the Dolphins accept and move down from 13 to 18 and acquire the No 52 pick in the Draft.

Seattle also could have traded the 2nd in '26 but here's the thing, as a GM in this thread I would want more picks that I can select and discuss right now. Plus those future picks won't mean anything when we fire up the Mock Draft '26 thread next year. I would encourage folks to try and only use the future picks as maybe a cherry on the top of a solid trade involving this year's draft picks.

But I'm not the Boss here, just a tour guide mostly and I would like some feedback on how you all feel about it.
And any other ideas you all have, now is the time to post them up so we can discuss.

Thanks
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Without any blue chip QBs I doubt we'll see too many trades in a real draft. Seems like there are a few guys considered top tier and then a bunch of players lumped together 5-40+. You could see some "on the clock" stuff per usual, but teams moving around pre-draft is unlikely.
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And that has been my findings and why I think Cleveland took a while to fill up, nobody is really excited about the No 2 pick right now
In most Draft Sims I run, the Browns consistently get almost no trade offers at No 2. They come in fast for No 1, 3-4-5 but at No 2 the phone doesn't ring much

I agree with you, would love to trade down for the Dolphins but I have a feeling I'm going to have to bite the bullet and make a pick at 13.
13 is a little high for them to take an IOL/OT/IDL/DT, those positions are fairly deep. But I have a couple players in mind that won't fit this mold but will fill the BPA

Reminder to everyone, MoP took CooperDeJean at No 8 overall last year. I drafted for Atlanta and felt they would do something nobody saw coming and DeJean ended up being drafted by Philly in the early 2nd round but I just didn't think outside the box enough for the Falcons, never thought they would take a QB after they spent $150M on Cousins
 
Titans - QB-WR-EDGE-LB

Browns - QB-WR-OT-DB

Giants - QB-OT-DB-DT

Patriots - WR-C-OG-OT...sounds like they need a new OL, they hired the right coach

Jaguars - WR-TE-S-DT

I'm simply showing what many websites collectively agree are the biggest areas of need for each team
Do I agree with all of them? Certainly not as I will show in the Miami summary of needs

Dolphins - C-OG-OT, well yeah sure but Aaron Brewer as an example rated 7th or 8th overall at Center last season, Miami signed him in '24.
I think Brewer gets overmatched when its short yardage time but Miami could be a lot worse there. Brewer not as bad as their current starting LG-Liam Eichenberg
Miami also needs a lot of help on Defense including but not limited to DT/NT/IDL, we don't have anybody good right now.
The Miami Secondary is Swiss Cheese outside of Jalen Ramsey who isn't what he once was, good but he needs a lot more help to balance the Secondary
 
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Ministry of Pain said:
RC94 said:
Not sure what the best chart is, but here's one from a source many of us are familiar with - https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/draft_trade_value.htm
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I posted this one as well
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menobrown said:
Sorry if this was mentioned but I think this has been the best trade value chart going for a few years now: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart-Rich-Hill.asp
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(y)

-Agreed, want everyone to have access to the info
I have my personal favs for ranking the players coming out of college but there's tons of Draft prospect sites so everyone can settle on what they prefer
These draft charts however are very helpful in any trade proposals so both GMs are on the same page and ridiculous trade offers back and forth don't have to carry on
I found them to be very helpful
 
Ministry of Pain said:
As a general guide I am going to write out some expectations

-When you know you are about 4-5 picks out and maybe sooner you need to get your short list of players together
Try not to be the person who says "Vegas GM took the guy I really wanted, I need time to think about it"
The NFL teams typically get about 5-10 minutes max when they are on the clock and they've already tried to move selections

-I have an idea that just came to me as I am writing this but let's see if this vibes with what we want to do here.
Once the 32 GMs are in place w/handful of GMs maybe running 2 of them, we should think about 24-48 hours of just trade discussion
Rather than GMs waiting on the clock which I won't allow, why not take a day or two and enjoy the reason most of you signed up to act as a team GM
Most teams get their deals done ahead of the Draft, sometimes they trade in the middle but many times those deals are discussed prior and are predicated on. certain player being there

I would support something like this so when the Draft starts, most teams know what they are going to do
I stated the Dolphins at No 13 are looking to trade DOWN!
Another GM already expressed interest in trading down so if you are a GM picking in the 20s and you want to move up to get an impact player, you know who to hit up

-I want to thank the Shark Pool for making this very easy so far assembling GMs, we just put this up Monday afternoon and it's only Wed Morning in the off season, there simple isn't the same amount of traffic in here, but the folks who are here are typically some of our strongest posters (y)
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MoP. Based on the info here I’m going to have to reluctantly back out. I’m traveling (flying) for work on Monday and won’t be able to be quickly responsive. Sorry brother.
 
dkp993 said:
Ministry of Pain said:
As a general guide I am going to write out some expectations

-When you know you are about 4-5 picks out and maybe sooner you need to get your short list of players together
Try not to be the person who says "Vegas GM took the guy I really wanted, I need time to think about it"
The NFL teams typically get about 5-10 minutes max when they are on the clock and they've already tried to move selections

-I have an idea that just came to me as I am writing this but let's see if this vibes with what we want to do here.
Once the 32 GMs are in place w/handful of GMs maybe running 2 of them, we should think about 24-48 hours of just trade discussion
Rather than GMs waiting on the clock which I won't allow, why not take a day or two and enjoy the reason most of you signed up to act as a team GM
Most teams get their deals done ahead of the Draft, sometimes they trade in the middle but many times those deals are discussed prior and are predicated on. certain player being there

I would support something like this so when the Draft starts, most teams know what they are going to do
I stated the Dolphins at No 13 are looking to trade DOWN!
Another GM already expressed interest in trading down so if you are a GM picking in the 20s and you want to move up to get an impact player, you know who to hit up

-I want to thank the Shark Pool for making this very easy so far assembling GMs, we just put this up Monday afternoon and it's only Wed Morning in the off season, there simple isn't the same amount of traffic in here, but the folks who are here are typically some of our strongest posters (y)
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MoP. Based on the info here I’m going to have to reluctantly back out. I’m traveling (flying) for work on Monday and won’t be able to be quickly responsive. Sorry brother.
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I understand, can you stay until Monday? We likely will be well into or thru the 1st rd I'm thinking and others will come along and wish they signed up, I'll slide them in and slide you out

-Monday is like 5 days away, let's see what happens in the next 48 hours, that will tell us a lot
 
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