#16 - Shine On You Cary Diamond (Parts 6-9) from Wish You Were Here (1975)
Appeared On: 18 ballots (out of 33 . . . 54.5%)
Total Points: 297 points (out of 825 possible points . . . 36.0%)
Top Rankers: @Anarchy99 ,
@Dwayne Hoover ,
@PIK95 ,
@Yambag ,
@turnjose7 @FatMax
Highest Rankings: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4
Alternate Version with Parts 1 + 2 Combined,
DG Live Version,
Montreal - 1977 <-- 23 and a half minutes of Dave going absolutely next level
Live Performances: PF: 110,
DG'S PF: 0,
RW: 122,
DG: 6
Covers: Most covers are for the first half of the song.
It took awhile, but the WYWH album finally makes an appearance. Shine On the sequel is our first track with 6 Top 5 rankings and 12 Top 10 selections. I was the only one to rank the second half of the song above the first half. Just listen to the live version I linked above. Dave and Snowy White trade guitar licks in an explosive performance. Rick and Nick also contribute some of their best work as well. I don't need to sell it . . . the recording sells itself. Dave fans WILL NOT be disappointed.
That performance comes from the infamous final show from the 1977 tour in Montreal. The one where Roger spit at a fan. The one that prompted Roger to write The Wall. By that point, the band was about to implode. The other members couldn't stand Roger. Rick had threatened to leave the band and not finish the tour. By the final show, they were all just plain angry. The Montreal show, IMO (along with many other opinions) is the greatest PF show ever be performed. The crowd kept shooting off fireworks, and during Pigs On The Wing, Roger lashes out at the crowd and the band almost didn't finish the show.
Dave was upset over that final concert and felt he did not play very well that night (listen to the show . . . I linked it above . . . boy was he wrong). In an interview many years later, Gilmour noted that the responsibility of being both the lead guitarist and lead singer meant that he was afforded few opportunities to really experience the band. "Some of the time, with a radio mic (wireless system) on my guitar, I could go out front, play a little bit while they were playing, then stop them and do something to fix a problem," he said, before noting the sonic limitations posed by venturing far from his band. "But if you're a distance away, you're so out of sync because of the time it's taken for the sound to come to you."
"The only time I've ever seen Pink Floyd live was the encore in Montreal Stadium in 1977 — the last gig of the Animals tour, the one that
Roger spat on someone," Gilmour said. "I was so pissed off about something, and I can't even remember what it was, that I refused to play the encore, and went out to the mixing desk to watch whatever encore it was, with Snowy White playing my parts. That was the only moment I saw a tiny bit."
As for the studio recording, SOYCD was initially intended to be one continuous track, but Roger later opted to split it in two. During the final mixing sessions of this song in June of 1975, Syd Barrett wandered into the studios), ready to help out. He was fat, bald, with shaved eye brows, and as crazy as they remembered, but they let him stay for a while. Barrett wanted to rejoin the group, but they learned in 1967 and 1968 that having an insane member was not good for a band. Before he was kicked out, Barrett would get on stage and either refuse to play or play the same note over and over.
Wright on that day in 1975: "Roger was there sitting at the mixing desk, and I came in and I saw this guy sitting behind him – huge, bald, fat guy. I thought, "He looks a bit... strange..." Anyway, I sat down with Roger at the desk and we worked for about 10 minutes, and this guy kept on getting up and brushing his teeth and then sitting – doing really weird things, but keeping quiet. And I said to Roger, "Who is he?" and Roger said "I don't know." And I said "Well, I assumed he was a friend of yours," and he said "No, I don't know who he is." Anyway, it took me a long time, and then suddenly I realized it was Syd, after maybe 45 minutes. He came in as we were doing the vocals for "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", which was basically about Syd. He just, for some incredible reason, picked the very day that we were doing a song which was about him. And we hadn't seen him, I don't think, for 2 years before. That's what's so incredibly weird about this guy. And a bit disturbing, as well, I mean, particularly when you see a guy, that you don't, you couldn't recognize him. And then, for him to pick the very day we want to start putting vocals on, which is a song about him. Very strange."
When asked what he thought of the song, Barrett said it sounded a "bit old". When someone tried to break the ice by asking Syd how he had put on so much weight, he maniacally replied, "I've got a very large fridge in the kitchen, and I've been eating a lot of pork chops!" That was the last time any of the Pink Floyd members saw him. Come on, you miner for truth and delusion, and shine!
Vulture Ranking (out of 165 songs): 38
UCR Ranking (out of 167 songs): 13
Louder Ranking (out of 50 songs): 2 (considered one song)
WMGK Ranking (out of 40 songs): 8 (considered one song)
Ranker Ranking (out of 132 songs): 5
Billboard Ranking (out of 50 songs): NR
Vulture Ranking (38 out of 165 songs): WYWH, one of PF’s best albums, and SOYCD, one of the band’s best songs, together have a dirty little secret. The first 5 parts kick off the album and as a whole remains one of the band’s most beloved compositions. The secret is that the second iteration of the song, which closes the album with another 4 parts, goes off the rails after the first of these. Had it ended after six minutes it would have been an effective reprise. The last 2 parts mar this fairly magnificent conception with overindulgent, aimless, musically uninteresting, and out-of place wankery. Someone really needed to take Wright’s clavinet away from him, too. You’ve probably seen the WHYH cover with the two guys shaking hands, one of them on fire. The original LP came with a thick opaque blue shrink wrap with a sticker on the front, nothing more, and is so rare it’s hard to find
a good pic of it online.
UCR Ranking (13 out of 167 songs): The second half of the band’s tribute to Syd Barrett can’t quite match its counterpart in terms of sweep and substance, but the four-part portion is as varied and compelling as any Floyd recording. The highlights, in order: Waters and Gilmour weave bass guitars into an undulating tapestry, David attempts to break the sound barrier on his lap steel solo, Roger’s vocals return and he pleads to his troubled pal (“Come on, you miner for truth and delusion, and shine”), the boys try on some neon-and-midnight funk with Wright’s clavinet in the foreground, and then the band goes catatonic as Wright pays elegiac tribute to his fallen band mate on piano and keyboard, quoting the “See Emily Play” melody before the whole dream fades away.
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@PIK95 might want to go outside for another cigarette while the rest of us discuss whether we should trust the government.