I preferred it as one song as well, it was my #1. Then it became my #1 and #2 because it was impossible for me to separate it like that.That was one of the reasons I wanted to count Shine On as one song. Most people didn't want to use two votes on it. Part 1 appeared on 31 ballots. Part 2 was only on 18.I couldn’t really distinguish between the two Shine Ons so I only voted for the first one.
I am interested to hear feedback on the uber extended live version.
IIRC for LZ, In My Time of Dying didn't even crack the top 25
I voted them One and Two as everyone should have.That was one of the reasons I wanted to count Shine On as one song. Most people didn't want to use two votes on it. Part 1 appeared on 31 ballots. Part 2 was only on 18.I couldn’t really distinguish between the two Shine Ons so I only voted for the first one.
I suggest you leave the room while we talk about your mother behind your back.I voted them One and Two as everyone should have.That was one of the reasons I wanted to count Shine On as one song. Most people didn't want to use two votes on it. Part 1 appeared on 31 ballots. Part 2 was only on 18.I couldn’t really distinguish between the two Shine Ons so I only voted for the first one.
And me expecting that it got zero votes and wasn't ranked.I suggest you leave the room while we talk about your mother behind your back.I voted them One and Two as everyone should have.That was one of the reasons I wanted to count Shine On as one song. Most people didn't want to use two votes on it. Part 1 appeared on 31 ballots. Part 2 was only on 18.I couldn’t really distinguish between the two Shine Ons so I only voted for the first one.
I had Brick part 2 at number 8 and I almost ranked it a few spots higher. It isn’t the most Pnk Floyd sounding of songs and it’s certainly a hit single. Some people think that’s a bad thing? A great song is a great song and this is a great song. As mentioned repeatedly, the guitar solo is outstanding but just tying the different pieces of this song so well together into the song is what makes it and PF special.I had Another Brick in the Wall II at 16. The guitar solo alone makes it worthy. One of DG's best ever. And the rest of the song is damn good as well. Yeah, yeah, it's catchy, but I don't buy this notion that being catchy is somehow a bad thing.
I had Shine On... Parts 6-9 at 10. Like its brother that kicked off the album, it's, to quote Jeff Spicoli, totally awesome. Richard Wright does some of his finest work ever in the latter half of this one.
Ooh, ah, is it just a waste of time?I suggest you leave the room while we talk about your mother behind your back.I voted them One and Two as everyone should have.That was one of the reasons I wanted to count Shine On as one song. Most people didn't want to use two votes on it. Part 1 appeared on 31 ballots. Part 2 was only on 18.I couldn’t really distinguish between the two Shine Ons so I only voted for the first one.
I'm not mad. Some people like blonde girls, some like brunettes, some even like red heads. I actually prefer hot ones while these Wall fans obviously go for the uggos. I shouldn't be surprised. People actually still pay to see Phish so yeah.I suggest you leave the room while we talk about your mother behind your back.I voted them One and Two as everyone should have.That was one of the reasons I wanted to count Shine On as one song. Most people didn't want to use two votes on it. Part 1 appeared on 31 ballots. Part 2 was only on 18.I couldn’t really distinguish between the two Shine Ons so I only voted for the first one.
This was the first Pink Floyd tune I heard. In 1979 I was a 5th grader and a kid brought in The Wall to music show and tell. "We don't need no education, We don't need no thought control" blaring in music class was about the greatest thing ever to 10 year old me. I was hooked.#17 - Another Brick In The Wall (Part 2) from The Wall (1979)
Appeared On: 22 ballots (out of 33 . . . 66.7%)
Total Points: 280 points (out of 825 possible points . . . 33.9%)
Top Rankers: @BassNBrew @lardonastick @DocHolliday @BrutalPenguin @turnjose7 @New Binky the Doormat
Highest Rankings: 1, 2
Demo #1, Another Demo, Single Version, Live Version, Film Version, DSOT, Cyndi Lauper - 1990, Pulse, Roger - 2018
Live Performances: PF: 31, DG'S PF: 308, RW: 739, DG: 1
This so reminds me of something very similar. I took a music appreciation class in college to check off an arts requirement. The guy that was the teacher was a British concert pianist with a classical education and outstanding morals and virtue. He did the same thing. He told the students to each bring in a record to illustrate their musical interests. He said it was only fair, as he would be playing things that he liked the rest of the semester. He randomly selected 1984 by Van Halen and said, "Being a teacher, something called Hot For Teacher sounds intriguing. It should be quite invigorating!"This was the first Pink Floyd tune I heard. In 1979 I was a 5th grader and a kid brought in The Wall to music show and tell. "We don't need no education, We don't need no thought control" blaring in music class was about the greatest thing ever to 10 year old me. I was hooked.
Shine part 2 didn’t make my top 25 but it is easily top 35 for me due to Dave’s guitar work. It is outstanding and is worth listening to over and over. Easy to understand why this made many of the top 25 lists.I had both Shines in my top 10, both close together, but could have combined them. The vocals soar on the first parts, but I love the buildup to Dave's killer guitar work on the back parts.
And I think I might have seen a “Cary Diamond” on a stripper pole once.
I think you’re mad.I'm not mad. Some people like blonde girls, some like brunettes, some even like red heads. I actually prefer hot ones while these Wall fans obviously go for the uggos. I shouldn't be surprised. People actually still pay to see Phish so yeah.I suggest you leave the room while we talk about your mother behind your back.I voted them One and Two as everyone should have.That was one of the reasons I wanted to count Shine On as one song. Most people didn't want to use two votes on it. Part 1 appeared on 31 ballots. Part 2 was only on 18.I couldn’t really distinguish between the two Shine Ons so I only voted for the first one.
Montreal - 1977 <-- 23 and a half minutes of Dave going absolutely next level
Yup - that was also Roger's infamous spitting concert that was supposedly a big inspiration for The Wall (perhaps one of PIK's least favorite concerts then).Montreal - 1977 <-- 23 and a half minutes of Dave going absolutely next level
The was amazing, BTW. I cannot believe I'd never seen that before now. Just when I thought I couldn't crush on Gilmour any harder, BOOM.
It really is incredible. Peak Floyd there.Montreal - 1977 <-- 23 and a half minutes of Dave going absolutely next level
The was amazing, BTW. I cannot believe I'd never seen that before now. Just when I thought I couldn't crush on Gilmour any harder, BOOM.
That's was great. I was digging it just sitting in my car. I imagine a quite a few Candians, with the light show, crowd energy, and full of Molson were getting OFF to that jam near the end.I am interested to hear feedback on the uber extended live version.
That was a heck of a few months for Montreal in 1977. In April, Andre Dawson started his Expos career on his way to NL Rookie of the Year. In May, the Canadiens completed a record 60 win/132 point season and won their second of four straight Stanley Cups. And two months later, concertgoers were able to get spit on by Roger Waters and hear an epic Gilmour performance.That's was great. I was digging it just sitting in my car. I imagine a quite a few Candians, with the light show, crowd energy, and full of Molson were getting OFF to that jam near the end.I am interested to hear feedback on the uber extended live version.
Yeah, 1977 was quite a fertile crop musically speaking for our friends in the north country. Besides PF, all of the following graced the stages of Montreal that year: Kinks, Styx, Frank Zappa, Rod Stewart, Ramones, ELP, Peter Frampton, J Geils, Cheap Trick, KISS, Supertramp, Hall & Oates, Boston, ELO, Jimmy Buffett, Eagles, Jethro Tull, Peter Gabriel, Blondie, Santana, Genesis, Queen, Thin Lizzy, and Beach Boys.That was a heck of a few months for Montreal in 1977.
No Rush, Triumph or April Wine - interesting. Guess they were focused southbound.Yeah, 1977 was quite a fertile crop musically speaking for our friends in the north country. Besides PF, all of the following graced the stages of Montreal that year: Kinks, Styx, Frank Zappa, Rod Stewart, Ramones, ELP, Peter Frampton, J Geils, Cheap Trick, KISS, Supertramp, Hall & Oates, Boston, ELO, Jimmy Buffett, Eagles, Jethro Tull, Peter Gabriel, Blondie, Santana, Genesis, Queen, Thin Lizzy, and Beach Boys.That was a heck of a few months for Montreal in 1977.
April Wine played there that year. Just left them off the list. No to the other two.No Rush, Triumph or April Wine - interesting. Guess they were focused southbound.Yeah, 1977 was quite a fertile crop musically speaking for our friends in the north country. Besides PF, all of the following graced the stages of Montreal that year: Kinks, Styx, Frank Zappa, Rod Stewart, Ramones, ELP, Peter Frampton, J Geils, Cheap Trick, KISS, Supertramp, Hall & Oates, Boston, ELO, Jimmy Buffett, Eagles, Jethro Tull, Peter Gabriel, Blondie, Santana, Genesis, Queen, Thin Lizzy, and Beach Boys.That was a heck of a few months for Montreal in 1977.
I would have THDOOL/ABITW2 in my top 25. On its own, it just missed. It is the first Floyd song I remember hearing -- at age 8, how can you not forget kids singing "we don't need no education"? What sticks with me these days is Gilmour's guitar solo, one of his most lyrical and memorable.
My rank: 6#16 - Shine On You Cary Diamond (Parts 6-9) from Wish You Were Here (1975)
Appeared On: 18 ballots (out of 33 . . . 54.5%)
Total Points: 297 points (out of 825 possible points . . . 36.0%)
Top Rankers: @Anarchy99 , @Dwayne Hoover , @PIK95 , @Yambag , @turnjose7 @FatMax
Highest Rankings: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4
Alternate Version with Parts 1 + 2 Combined, DG Live Version, Montreal - 1977 <-- 23 and a half minutes of Dave going absolutely next level
Live Performances: PF: 110, DG'S PF: 0, RW: 122, DG: 6
Covers: Most covers are for the first half of the song.
It took awhile, but the WYWH album finally makes an appearance. Shine On the sequel is our first track with 6 Top 5 rankings and 12 Top 10 selections. I was the only one to rank the second half of the song above the first half. Just listen to the live version I linked above. Dave and Snowy White trade guitar licks in an explosive performance. Rick and Nick also contribute some of their best work as well. I don't need to sell it . . . the recording sells itself. Dave fans WILL NOT be disappointed.
That performance comes from the infamous final show from the 1977 tour in Montreal. The one where Roger spit at a fan. The one that prompted Roger to write The Wall. By that point, the band was about to implode. The other members couldn't stand Roger. Rick had threatened to leave the band and not finish the tour. By the final show, they were all just plain angry. The Montreal show, IMO (along with many other opinions) is the greatest PF show ever be performed. The crowd kept shooting off fireworks, and during Pigs On The Wing, Roger lashes out at the crowd and the band almost didn't finish the show.
Dave was upset over that final concert and felt he did not play very well that night (listen to the show . . . I linked it above . . . boy was he wrong). In an interview many years later, Gilmour noted that the responsibility of being both the lead guitarist and lead singer meant that he was afforded few opportunities to really experience the band. "Some of the time, with a radio mic (wireless system) on my guitar, I could go out front, play a little bit while they were playing, then stop them and do something to fix a problem," he said, before noting the sonic limitations posed by venturing far from his band. "But if you're a distance away, you're so out of sync because of the time it's taken for the sound to come to you."
"The only time I've ever seen Pink Floyd live was the encore in Montreal Stadium in 1977 — the last gig of the Animals tour, the one that Roger spat on someone," Gilmour said. "I was so pissed off about something, and I can't even remember what it was, that I refused to play the encore, and went out to the mixing desk to watch whatever encore it was, with Snowy White playing my parts. That was the only moment I saw a tiny bit."
As for the studio recording, SOYCD was initially intended to be one continuous track, but Roger later opted to split it in two. During the final mixing sessions of this song in June of 1975, Syd Barrett wandered into the studios), ready to help out. He was fat, bald, with shaved eye brows, and as crazy as they remembered, but they let him stay for a while. Barrett wanted to rejoin the group, but they learned in 1967 and 1968 that having an insane member was not good for a band. Before he was kicked out, Barrett would get on stage and either refuse to play or play the same note over and over.
Wright on that day in 1975: "Roger was there sitting at the mixing desk, and I came in and I saw this guy sitting behind him – huge, bald, fat guy. I thought, "He looks a bit... strange..." Anyway, I sat down with Roger at the desk and we worked for about 10 minutes, and this guy kept on getting up and brushing his teeth and then sitting – doing really weird things, but keeping quiet. And I said to Roger, "Who is he?" and Roger said "I don't know." And I said "Well, I assumed he was a friend of yours," and he said "No, I don't know who he is." Anyway, it took me a long time, and then suddenly I realized it was Syd, after maybe 45 minutes. He came in as we were doing the vocals for "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", which was basically about Syd. He just, for some incredible reason, picked the very day that we were doing a song which was about him. And we hadn't seen him, I don't think, for 2 years before. That's what's so incredibly weird about this guy. And a bit disturbing, as well, I mean, particularly when you see a guy, that you don't, you couldn't recognize him. And then, for him to pick the very day we want to start putting vocals on, which is a song about him. Very strange."
When asked what he thought of the song, Barrett said it sounded a "bit old". When someone tried to break the ice by asking Syd how he had put on so much weight, he maniacally replied, "I've got a very large fridge in the kitchen, and I've been eating a lot of pork chops!" That was the last time any of the Pink Floyd members saw him. Come on, you miner for truth and delusion, and shine!
Vulture Ranking (out of 165 songs): 38
UCR Ranking (out of 167 songs): 13
Louder Ranking (out of 50 songs): 2 (considered one song)
WMGK Ranking (out of 40 songs): 8 (considered one song)
Ranker Ranking (out of 132 songs): 5
Billboard Ranking (out of 50 songs): NR
Vulture Ranking (38 out of 165 songs): WYWH, one of PF’s best albums, and SOYCD, one of the band’s best songs, together have a dirty little secret. The first 5 parts kick off the album and as a whole remains one of the band’s most beloved compositions. The secret is that the second iteration of the song, which closes the album with another 4 parts, goes off the rails after the first of these. Had it ended after six minutes it would have been an effective reprise. The last 2 parts mar this fairly magnificent conception with overindulgent, aimless, musically uninteresting, and out-of place wankery. Someone really needed to take Wright’s clavinet away from him, too. You’ve probably seen the WHYH cover with the two guys shaking hands, one of them on fire. The original LP came with a thick opaque blue shrink wrap with a sticker on the front, nothing more, and is so rare it’s hard to find a good pic of it online.
UCR Ranking (13 out of 167 songs): The second half of the band’s tribute to Syd Barrett can’t quite match its counterpart in terms of sweep and substance, but the four-part portion is as varied and compelling as any Floyd recording. The highlights, in order: Waters and Gilmour weave bass guitars into an undulating tapestry, David attempts to break the sound barrier on his lap steel solo, Roger’s vocals return and he pleads to his troubled pal (“Come on, you miner for truth and delusion, and shine”), the boys try on some neon-and-midnight funk with Wright’s clavinet in the foreground, and then the band goes catatonic as Wright pays elegiac tribute to his fallen band mate on piano and keyboard, quoting the “See Emily Play” melody before the whole dream fades away.
Coming up, @PIK95 might want to go outside for another cigarette while the rest of us discuss whether we should trust the government.
Montreal - 1977 <-- 23 and a half minutes of Dave going absolutely next level
I stopped reading the Vulture parts of the thread a long time ago. LOLMy rank: 6#16 - Shine On You Cary Diamond (Parts 6-9) from Wish You Were Here (1975)
Appeared On: 18 ballots (out of 33 . . . 54.5%)
Total Points: 297 points (out of 825 possible points . . . 36.0%)
Top Rankers: @Anarchy99 , @Dwayne Hoover , @PIK95 , @Yambag , @turnjose7 @FatMax
Highest Rankings: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4
Alternate Version with Parts 1 + 2 Combined, DG Live Version, Montreal - 1977 <-- 23 and a half minutes of Dave going absolutely next level
Live Performances: PF: 110, DG'S PF: 0, RW: 122, DG: 6
Covers: Most covers are for the first half of the song.
It took awhile, but the WYWH album finally makes an appearance. Shine On the sequel is our first track with 6 Top 5 rankings and 12 Top 10 selections. I was the only one to rank the second half of the song above the first half. Just listen to the live version I linked above. Dave and Snowy White trade guitar licks in an explosive performance. Rick and Nick also contribute some of their best work as well. I don't need to sell it . . . the recording sells itself. Dave fans WILL NOT be disappointed.
That performance comes from the infamous final show from the 1977 tour in Montreal. The one where Roger spit at a fan. The one that prompted Roger to write The Wall. By that point, the band was about to implode. The other members couldn't stand Roger. Rick had threatened to leave the band and not finish the tour. By the final show, they were all just plain angry. The Montreal show, IMO (along with many other opinions) is the greatest PF show ever be performed. The crowd kept shooting off fireworks, and during Pigs On The Wing, Roger lashes out at the crowd and the band almost didn't finish the show.
Dave was upset over that final concert and felt he did not play very well that night (listen to the show . . . I linked it above . . . boy was he wrong). In an interview many years later, Gilmour noted that the responsibility of being both the lead guitarist and lead singer meant that he was afforded few opportunities to really experience the band. "Some of the time, with a radio mic (wireless system) on my guitar, I could go out front, play a little bit while they were playing, then stop them and do something to fix a problem," he said, before noting the sonic limitations posed by venturing far from his band. "But if you're a distance away, you're so out of sync because of the time it's taken for the sound to come to you."
"The only time I've ever seen Pink Floyd live was the encore in Montreal Stadium in 1977 — the last gig of the Animals tour, the one that Roger spat on someone," Gilmour said. "I was so pissed off about something, and I can't even remember what it was, that I refused to play the encore, and went out to the mixing desk to watch whatever encore it was, with Snowy White playing my parts. That was the only moment I saw a tiny bit."
As for the studio recording, SOYCD was initially intended to be one continuous track, but Roger later opted to split it in two. During the final mixing sessions of this song in June of 1975, Syd Barrett wandered into the studios), ready to help out. He was fat, bald, with shaved eye brows, and as crazy as they remembered, but they let him stay for a while. Barrett wanted to rejoin the group, but they learned in 1967 and 1968 that having an insane member was not good for a band. Before he was kicked out, Barrett would get on stage and either refuse to play or play the same note over and over.
Wright on that day in 1975: "Roger was there sitting at the mixing desk, and I came in and I saw this guy sitting behind him – huge, bald, fat guy. I thought, "He looks a bit... strange..." Anyway, I sat down with Roger at the desk and we worked for about 10 minutes, and this guy kept on getting up and brushing his teeth and then sitting – doing really weird things, but keeping quiet. And I said to Roger, "Who is he?" and Roger said "I don't know." And I said "Well, I assumed he was a friend of yours," and he said "No, I don't know who he is." Anyway, it took me a long time, and then suddenly I realized it was Syd, after maybe 45 minutes. He came in as we were doing the vocals for "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", which was basically about Syd. He just, for some incredible reason, picked the very day that we were doing a song which was about him. And we hadn't seen him, I don't think, for 2 years before. That's what's so incredibly weird about this guy. And a bit disturbing, as well, I mean, particularly when you see a guy, that you don't, you couldn't recognize him. And then, for him to pick the very day we want to start putting vocals on, which is a song about him. Very strange."
When asked what he thought of the song, Barrett said it sounded a "bit old". When someone tried to break the ice by asking Syd how he had put on so much weight, he maniacally replied, "I've got a very large fridge in the kitchen, and I've been eating a lot of pork chops!" That was the last time any of the Pink Floyd members saw him. Come on, you miner for truth and delusion, and shine!
Vulture Ranking (out of 165 songs): 38
UCR Ranking (out of 167 songs): 13
Louder Ranking (out of 50 songs): 2 (considered one song)
WMGK Ranking (out of 40 songs): 8 (considered one song)
Ranker Ranking (out of 132 songs): 5
Billboard Ranking (out of 50 songs): NR
Vulture Ranking (38 out of 165 songs): WYWH, one of PF’s best albums, and SOYCD, one of the band’s best songs, together have a dirty little secret. The first 5 parts kick off the album and as a whole remains one of the band’s most beloved compositions. The secret is that the second iteration of the song, which closes the album with another 4 parts, goes off the rails after the first of these. Had it ended after six minutes it would have been an effective reprise. The last 2 parts mar this fairly magnificent conception with overindulgent, aimless, musically uninteresting, and out-of place wankery. Someone really needed to take Wright’s clavinet away from him, too. You’ve probably seen the WHYH cover with the two guys shaking hands, one of them on fire. The original LP came with a thick opaque blue shrink wrap with a sticker on the front, nothing more, and is so rare it’s hard to find a good pic of it online.
UCR Ranking (13 out of 167 songs): The second half of the band’s tribute to Syd Barrett can’t quite match its counterpart in terms of sweep and substance, but the four-part portion is as varied and compelling as any Floyd recording. The highlights, in order: Waters and Gilmour weave bass guitars into an undulating tapestry, David attempts to break the sound barrier on his lap steel solo, Roger’s vocals return and he pleads to his troubled pal (“Come on, you miner for truth and delusion, and shine”), the boys try on some neon-and-midnight funk with Wright’s clavinet in the foreground, and then the band goes catatonic as Wright pays elegiac tribute to his fallen band mate on piano and keyboard, quoting the “See Emily Play” melody before the whole dream fades away.
Coming up, @PIK95 might want to go outside for another cigarette while the rest of us discuss whether we should trust the government.
The mellower and more experimental of the two halves of SOYCD, parts VI-IX are the perfect soundtrack for Netflix and chilling. Oddly, I used to hear this half more often than the first half on the Philly FM stations -- maybe it's shorter, maybe it fit more with the nighttime vibe, I dunno. The vocal passage here seems sadder than the one from the first -- there's real fatigue and wistfulness in Waters' voice when he sings "nobody knows where you are, how near or how far".
But it's Part VIII that puts this song as high on my list as it is. It is one of my favorite Floyd instrumental passages along with the "funky" part of Echoes, the first guitar solo on Dogs and the final guitar solo on Comfortably Numb. It's freaky and funky and impossible to get out of your head.
Clearly Vulture guy doesn't like anything more than three chords. Which makes me wonder why he's listening to Pink Floyd records.
I can't help myself. It's a sickness.I stopped reading the Vulture parts of the thread a long time ago. LOLMy rank: 6#16 - Shine On You Cary Diamond (Parts 6-9) from Wish You Were Here (1975)
Appeared On: 18 ballots (out of 33 . . . 54.5%)
Total Points: 297 points (out of 825 possible points . . . 36.0%)
Top Rankers: @Anarchy99 , @Dwayne Hoover , @PIK95 , @Yambag , @turnjose7 @FatMax
Highest Rankings: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4
Alternate Version with Parts 1 + 2 Combined, DG Live Version, Montreal - 1977 <-- 23 and a half minutes of Dave going absolutely next level
Live Performances: PF: 110, DG'S PF: 0, RW: 122, DG: 6
Covers: Most covers are for the first half of the song.
It took awhile, but the WYWH album finally makes an appearance. Shine On the sequel is our first track with 6 Top 5 rankings and 12 Top 10 selections. I was the only one to rank the second half of the song above the first half. Just listen to the live version I linked above. Dave and Snowy White trade guitar licks in an explosive performance. Rick and Nick also contribute some of their best work as well. I don't need to sell it . . . the recording sells itself. Dave fans WILL NOT be disappointed.
That performance comes from the infamous final show from the 1977 tour in Montreal. The one where Roger spit at a fan. The one that prompted Roger to write The Wall. By that point, the band was about to implode. The other members couldn't stand Roger. Rick had threatened to leave the band and not finish the tour. By the final show, they were all just plain angry. The Montreal show, IMO (along with many other opinions) is the greatest PF show ever be performed. The crowd kept shooting off fireworks, and during Pigs On The Wing, Roger lashes out at the crowd and the band almost didn't finish the show.
Dave was upset over that final concert and felt he did not play very well that night (listen to the show . . . I linked it above . . . boy was he wrong). In an interview many years later, Gilmour noted that the responsibility of being both the lead guitarist and lead singer meant that he was afforded few opportunities to really experience the band. "Some of the time, with a radio mic (wireless system) on my guitar, I could go out front, play a little bit while they were playing, then stop them and do something to fix a problem," he said, before noting the sonic limitations posed by venturing far from his band. "But if you're a distance away, you're so out of sync because of the time it's taken for the sound to come to you."
"The only time I've ever seen Pink Floyd live was the encore in Montreal Stadium in 1977 — the last gig of the Animals tour, the one that Roger spat on someone," Gilmour said. "I was so pissed off about something, and I can't even remember what it was, that I refused to play the encore, and went out to the mixing desk to watch whatever encore it was, with Snowy White playing my parts. That was the only moment I saw a tiny bit."
As for the studio recording, SOYCD was initially intended to be one continuous track, but Roger later opted to split it in two. During the final mixing sessions of this song in June of 1975, Syd Barrett wandered into the studios), ready to help out. He was fat, bald, with shaved eye brows, and as crazy as they remembered, but they let him stay for a while. Barrett wanted to rejoin the group, but they learned in 1967 and 1968 that having an insane member was not good for a band. Before he was kicked out, Barrett would get on stage and either refuse to play or play the same note over and over.
Wright on that day in 1975: "Roger was there sitting at the mixing desk, and I came in and I saw this guy sitting behind him – huge, bald, fat guy. I thought, "He looks a bit... strange..." Anyway, I sat down with Roger at the desk and we worked for about 10 minutes, and this guy kept on getting up and brushing his teeth and then sitting – doing really weird things, but keeping quiet. And I said to Roger, "Who is he?" and Roger said "I don't know." And I said "Well, I assumed he was a friend of yours," and he said "No, I don't know who he is." Anyway, it took me a long time, and then suddenly I realized it was Syd, after maybe 45 minutes. He came in as we were doing the vocals for "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", which was basically about Syd. He just, for some incredible reason, picked the very day that we were doing a song which was about him. And we hadn't seen him, I don't think, for 2 years before. That's what's so incredibly weird about this guy. And a bit disturbing, as well, I mean, particularly when you see a guy, that you don't, you couldn't recognize him. And then, for him to pick the very day we want to start putting vocals on, which is a song about him. Very strange."
When asked what he thought of the song, Barrett said it sounded a "bit old". When someone tried to break the ice by asking Syd how he had put on so much weight, he maniacally replied, "I've got a very large fridge in the kitchen, and I've been eating a lot of pork chops!" That was the last time any of the Pink Floyd members saw him. Come on, you miner for truth and delusion, and shine!
Vulture Ranking (out of 165 songs): 38
UCR Ranking (out of 167 songs): 13
Louder Ranking (out of 50 songs): 2 (considered one song)
WMGK Ranking (out of 40 songs): 8 (considered one song)
Ranker Ranking (out of 132 songs): 5
Billboard Ranking (out of 50 songs): NR
Vulture Ranking (38 out of 165 songs): WYWH, one of PF’s best albums, and SOYCD, one of the band’s best songs, together have a dirty little secret. The first 5 parts kick off the album and as a whole remains one of the band’s most beloved compositions. The secret is that the second iteration of the song, which closes the album with another 4 parts, goes off the rails after the first of these. Had it ended after six minutes it would have been an effective reprise. The last 2 parts mar this fairly magnificent conception with overindulgent, aimless, musically uninteresting, and out-of place wankery. Someone really needed to take Wright’s clavinet away from him, too. You’ve probably seen the WHYH cover with the two guys shaking hands, one of them on fire. The original LP came with a thick opaque blue shrink wrap with a sticker on the front, nothing more, and is so rare it’s hard to find a good pic of it online.
UCR Ranking (13 out of 167 songs): The second half of the band’s tribute to Syd Barrett can’t quite match its counterpart in terms of sweep and substance, but the four-part portion is as varied and compelling as any Floyd recording. The highlights, in order: Waters and Gilmour weave bass guitars into an undulating tapestry, David attempts to break the sound barrier on his lap steel solo, Roger’s vocals return and he pleads to his troubled pal (“Come on, you miner for truth and delusion, and shine”), the boys try on some neon-and-midnight funk with Wright’s clavinet in the foreground, and then the band goes catatonic as Wright pays elegiac tribute to his fallen band mate on piano and keyboard, quoting the “See Emily Play” melody before the whole dream fades away.
Coming up, @PIK95 might want to go outside for another cigarette while the rest of us discuss whether we should trust the government.
The mellower and more experimental of the two halves of SOYCD, parts VI-IX are the perfect soundtrack for Netflix and chilling. Oddly, I used to hear this half more often than the first half on the Philly FM stations -- maybe it's shorter, maybe it fit more with the nighttime vibe, I dunno. The vocal passage here seems sadder than the one from the first -- there's real fatigue and wistfulness in Waters' voice when he sings "nobody knows where you are, how near or how far".
But it's Part VIII that puts this song as high on my list as it is. It is one of my favorite Floyd instrumental passages along with the "funky" part of Echoes, the first guitar solo on Dogs and the final guitar solo on Comfortably Numb. It's freaky and funky and impossible to get out of your head.
Clearly Vulture guy doesn't like anything more than three chords. Which makes me wonder why he's listening to Pink Floyd records.
Speaking of sickness...I can't help myself. It's a sickness.I stopped reading the Vulture parts of the thread a long time ago. LOLMy rank: 6#16 - Shine On You Cary Diamond (Parts 6-9) from Wish You Were Here (1975)
Appeared On: 18 ballots (out of 33 . . . 54.5%)
Total Points: 297 points (out of 825 possible points . . . 36.0%)
Top Rankers: @Anarchy99 , @Dwayne Hoover , @PIK95 , @Yambag , @turnjose7 @FatMax
Highest Rankings: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4
Alternate Version with Parts 1 + 2 Combined, DG Live Version, Montreal - 1977 <-- 23 and a half minutes of Dave going absolutely next level
Live Performances: PF: 110, DG'S PF: 0, RW: 122, DG: 6
Covers: Most covers are for the first half of the song.
It took awhile, but the WYWH album finally makes an appearance. Shine On the sequel is our first track with 6 Top 5 rankings and 12 Top 10 selections. I was the only one to rank the second half of the song above the first half. Just listen to the live version I linked above. Dave and Snowy White trade guitar licks in an explosive performance. Rick and Nick also contribute some of their best work as well. I don't need to sell it . . . the recording sells itself. Dave fans WILL NOT be disappointed.
That performance comes from the infamous final show from the 1977 tour in Montreal. The one where Roger spit at a fan. The one that prompted Roger to write The Wall. By that point, the band was about to implode. The other members couldn't stand Roger. Rick had threatened to leave the band and not finish the tour. By the final show, they were all just plain angry. The Montreal show, IMO (along with many other opinions) is the greatest PF show ever be performed. The crowd kept shooting off fireworks, and during Pigs On The Wing, Roger lashes out at the crowd and the band almost didn't finish the show.
Dave was upset over that final concert and felt he did not play very well that night (listen to the show . . . I linked it above . . . boy was he wrong). In an interview many years later, Gilmour noted that the responsibility of being both the lead guitarist and lead singer meant that he was afforded few opportunities to really experience the band. "Some of the time, with a radio mic (wireless system) on my guitar, I could go out front, play a little bit while they were playing, then stop them and do something to fix a problem," he said, before noting the sonic limitations posed by venturing far from his band. "But if you're a distance away, you're so out of sync because of the time it's taken for the sound to come to you."
"The only time I've ever seen Pink Floyd live was the encore in Montreal Stadium in 1977 — the last gig of the Animals tour, the one that Roger spat on someone," Gilmour said. "I was so pissed off about something, and I can't even remember what it was, that I refused to play the encore, and went out to the mixing desk to watch whatever encore it was, with Snowy White playing my parts. That was the only moment I saw a tiny bit."
As for the studio recording, SOYCD was initially intended to be one continuous track, but Roger later opted to split it in two. During the final mixing sessions of this song in June of 1975, Syd Barrett wandered into the studios), ready to help out. He was fat, bald, with shaved eye brows, and as crazy as they remembered, but they let him stay for a while. Barrett wanted to rejoin the group, but they learned in 1967 and 1968 that having an insane member was not good for a band. Before he was kicked out, Barrett would get on stage and either refuse to play or play the same note over and over.
Wright on that day in 1975: "Roger was there sitting at the mixing desk, and I came in and I saw this guy sitting behind him – huge, bald, fat guy. I thought, "He looks a bit... strange..." Anyway, I sat down with Roger at the desk and we worked for about 10 minutes, and this guy kept on getting up and brushing his teeth and then sitting – doing really weird things, but keeping quiet. And I said to Roger, "Who is he?" and Roger said "I don't know." And I said "Well, I assumed he was a friend of yours," and he said "No, I don't know who he is." Anyway, it took me a long time, and then suddenly I realized it was Syd, after maybe 45 minutes. He came in as we were doing the vocals for "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", which was basically about Syd. He just, for some incredible reason, picked the very day that we were doing a song which was about him. And we hadn't seen him, I don't think, for 2 years before. That's what's so incredibly weird about this guy. And a bit disturbing, as well, I mean, particularly when you see a guy, that you don't, you couldn't recognize him. And then, for him to pick the very day we want to start putting vocals on, which is a song about him. Very strange."
When asked what he thought of the song, Barrett said it sounded a "bit old". When someone tried to break the ice by asking Syd how he had put on so much weight, he maniacally replied, "I've got a very large fridge in the kitchen, and I've been eating a lot of pork chops!" That was the last time any of the Pink Floyd members saw him. Come on, you miner for truth and delusion, and shine!
Vulture Ranking (out of 165 songs): 38
UCR Ranking (out of 167 songs): 13
Louder Ranking (out of 50 songs): 2 (considered one song)
WMGK Ranking (out of 40 songs): 8 (considered one song)
Ranker Ranking (out of 132 songs): 5
Billboard Ranking (out of 50 songs): NR
Vulture Ranking (38 out of 165 songs): WYWH, one of PF’s best albums, and SOYCD, one of the band’s best songs, together have a dirty little secret. The first 5 parts kick off the album and as a whole remains one of the band’s most beloved compositions. The secret is that the second iteration of the song, which closes the album with another 4 parts, goes off the rails after the first of these. Had it ended after six minutes it would have been an effective reprise. The last 2 parts mar this fairly magnificent conception with overindulgent, aimless, musically uninteresting, and out-of place wankery. Someone really needed to take Wright’s clavinet away from him, too. You’ve probably seen the WHYH cover with the two guys shaking hands, one of them on fire. The original LP came with a thick opaque blue shrink wrap with a sticker on the front, nothing more, and is so rare it’s hard to find a good pic of it online.
UCR Ranking (13 out of 167 songs): The second half of the band’s tribute to Syd Barrett can’t quite match its counterpart in terms of sweep and substance, but the four-part portion is as varied and compelling as any Floyd recording. The highlights, in order: Waters and Gilmour weave bass guitars into an undulating tapestry, David attempts to break the sound barrier on his lap steel solo, Roger’s vocals return and he pleads to his troubled pal (“Come on, you miner for truth and delusion, and shine”), the boys try on some neon-and-midnight funk with Wright’s clavinet in the foreground, and then the band goes catatonic as Wright pays elegiac tribute to his fallen band mate on piano and keyboard, quoting the “See Emily Play” melody before the whole dream fades away.
Coming up, @PIK95 might want to go outside for another cigarette while the rest of us discuss whether we should trust the government.
The mellower and more experimental of the two halves of SOYCD, parts VI-IX are the perfect soundtrack for Netflix and chilling. Oddly, I used to hear this half more often than the first half on the Philly FM stations -- maybe it's shorter, maybe it fit more with the nighttime vibe, I dunno. The vocal passage here seems sadder than the one from the first -- there's real fatigue and wistfulness in Waters' voice when he sings "nobody knows where you are, how near or how far".
But it's Part VIII that puts this song as high on my list as it is. It is one of my favorite Floyd instrumental passages along with the "funky" part of Echoes, the first guitar solo on Dogs and the final guitar solo on Comfortably Numb. It's freaky and funky and impossible to get out of your head.
Clearly Vulture guy doesn't like anything more than three chords. Which makes me wonder why he's listening to Pink Floyd records.
It was weighted down by PIK awarding it negative infinity points.Way too low! I ranked this 4th, and there are days where this is my number 1. I actually prefer the version from the film, which feels more like a lullaby, and I prefer the last line before the first chorus of, "Mother, am I really dying?" The version Waters did at the Berlin show in 1990 with Sinead O'Connor and The Band is awesome as well (even if the final version used was from rehearsals due to a mess-up during the live show). Waters absolutely nailed this song.
If the glove fits...Luckily they eventually moved on to OJ, and Biggie and Pac.
Sounds like they needed to PUT.THE.BONG.DOWN.dorm dudes having all these weird conspiracy theories about the Wall tunes.
Thanks for sharing your story.I get that not everyone likes every song, and not every person will have a connection to each song. I also prefer the film version. In my case, my situation was such that this song completely registers and resonates with me. My mother was built from the same mold and cut from the same cloth as the woman depicted in the song. She was also an overbearing single mother who thrived on nitpicking and pointing out your faults. I was the youngest child, so I got the over-protection routine in spades. She also started out as a teacher but gave that up to get married and start a family. She did the best she could to keep everyone happy but things didn't work out with her marriage.
By then she was unhappy and depressed, couldn't go back to teaching, and was generally a loner. The word crotchety would apply here. As the youngest child, I stayed living with her and supported her for years (and way too long). I looked at it as doing the right thing and sacrificing a few extra years to help support her. Then one day she went off the deep end and threw me out of the house ranting that I needed to support myself and grow up and stand on my own two feet (which was odd given that I paid rent, paid for our food, paid all my own expenses, and drove her around as she had no vehicle of her own).
She ended up starting to lose it mentally, and we eventually had to send her kicking and screaming to a nursing home. She died the first night there. I'm still not sure if that was by natural causes, whether she did something to herself, or if there was wrongdoing and malfeasance on the part of the facility. She was cremated very quickly, so there wasn't an investigation or exploration as to what happened. Anyway, very few songs make me emotional and well up, and this one tops the list. It didn't make my Top 10, mostly because it is very difficult for me to listen to without getting upset. The song came out in the peak season of all this . . . I was living alone with my mother and starting high school. I was the poster boy for this song.
THAT was annoying and got old quick.
/threadTHAT was annoying and got old quick.
We all understand how some shtick can get old quick.
I don't think the song is all that polarizing. There were 26 people (out of 33) that voted for it. Only 6 other songs had more people vote for it. It just didn't get the volume of Top 10 votes as those other songs did. It's average ranking for those that voted for it was 14th (which is where I ranked it).
I wasn't expecting this to be so polarizing. I don't hate it, but I prefer most of the other songs on Disc 1 of The Wall to it. As with many things Floyd, the best part is the guitar solo.
I love songs where Roger and David trade vocals as different “characters” - their voices signifying different perspectives.Love the guitar solo to Mother and love the Gilmour vocals in this song.
I ranked it 7. It's tops for me because of the combination of vocals, the guitar work, the importance to the storyline of the Wall, everything. This is a defining Pink Floyd song IMO.#15 - Mother from The Wall (1979)
To be honest, I didn't want to say it after Anarchy posted about how connected he was to the song but I have never connected with it myself.
I wasn't expecting this to be so polarizing. I don't hate it, but I prefer most of the other songs on Disc 1 of The Wall to it. As with many things Floyd, the best part is the guitar solo.