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FBGs vs Kasparov- chess game- Draw agreed to (1 Viewer)

There are no dumb questions.

Ba3 would take a lot of maneuvering on his part. He'd have to chase our bishop away first with a3, then b3, then a4, etc. we'll have castled long before that- it would be a great waste of time for him to even try.

 
So does anyone object to c x d4 and then after e X d4 d5? Because I think we might as well go down this path now that we've begun it.

 
There are no dumb questions.

Ba3 would take a lot of maneuvering on his part. He'd have to chase our bishop away first with a3, then b3, then a4, etc. we'll have castled long before that- it would be a great waste of time for him to even try.
Maybe there's too many side discussions. Here was my "logic" (I may be using that term loosely). We take d4, he takes it back with his knight - you replied saying he wouldn't do that because of double pawns which I thought meant you were proposing that we take the knight next. If we did and he takes the bishop and gets the double pawns then if we moved c5 next it would allow him to play Ba3 and prevent us from castling.

NOTE: I'm also drinking.

 
i know people in here aren't going to cheat but isn't it possible nowadays to basically just input the moves into a computer program and win 99.9% of the time?
Yes, but I think Bender mentioned some sites are good at catching cheats. Not sure how they do it.
lichess

and it's why i've moved most of my online play there.

They use some some advanced algorithms that i could never explain but ive seen people get the boot mid tournament before over there. Anyone shooting up the ranks never lasts more than a day without being snuffed out, and if you're a serial offender, they will just IP ban you.

ETA: It's not particularly difficult to determine when you're playing vs a machine at least for some of the moves. It's getting the ICC to do something about it that sucks. Since it's a pay site, Sandro (the head of ICC) seems reticent to take action vs cheats.
Wow, that's really great. I may have to try this.

 
And he took it, exd4. That didn't take long. (about 30 seconds). So since nobody objected I will now play d5 as planned.

 
Yes.

... Nxd5

OO OO

with a relatively normal position.

I'd like to get in Re8 quickly, if possible, so we can retreat the bishop to f8 and redeploy via g7.

 
We have a blockaded IQP in the Nimzo-Indian Defense. Nimzowitch couldn't be happier.

If you look at the board after both sides castle, you can see why the IQP is a weakness and a strength. Knights make very good defenders of the castled king from their usual spot on king's bishop three. But the Black knight is performing it's proper duty of blockading the isolated pawn. The Black king is a bit bare of defenders.

It will be very important when analyzing to not allow typical Bxh7 sacrifices against our castled king position. Even pushing h6 is dangerous as Bxh6 sacrifices are possible also.

 
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Even with the updated board, I still vote Nxd5. And I still expect white to castle after that.

 
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Assuming he castles, so should we, of course
Yeah I think that's a given. Then are we in the middle game? Or is there opening book left?
Mmm, I think that's pretty much the conclusion of the opening. Not hard and fast, natch.
You mean we got through the opening without being at a disadvantage? :pickle:
:) Well, *I* think so. In fact, I was looking at white's position with the IQP, trying to be unbiased, and thinking that it isn't really very strong.

 
So if Kaspy castles we will as well. That's already the consensus and I'll do it immediately once he does.

After that we need to discuss, at length, what our various ideas are and how we can achieve them, and what white might be planning and how best to defend against it.

 
Bd6 is also a reasonable alternative. I like it a little more, as it keeps the Q's options more open, but both create a threat on the king side.

 
Good morning.

Kaspy did not castle as expected. Instead he has played a3 attacking our bishop.

Do we retreat to e7?
Looks like e7, d6, or a5 are the options. Or take the knight on c3,

I don't like the idea of taking the knight. I'm thinking it is better to have that IQP rather than an isolated pawn on the edge, yes?

I like a5 on the face of it, with an idea of ending up on b6 - gives us a bead on that center pawn on d4.

e7 takes away a possible spot for our knight on c6 if we need it, but that may be the safest bet. d6 cuts off our Q's attack on that center pawn, so don't like that as much.

my .02

 
Bd6 is also a reasonable alternative. I like it a little more, as it keeps the Q's options more open, but both create a threat on the king side.
If Bd6 NxN and now we both have isolated pawns- advantage lost. If we retreat the bishop we need to recapture the NxN with our queen. So I think Bd6 is out.

 
I don't like Ba5 either, because b4 allows him to start his queenside attack with added tempo.
on the other hand b4 would lead to Bb6 so maybe that's not to our disadvantage. Lets see what Bob and Joffer have to say: they're the ones more familiar with this position. For all I know this may still be book.

 
I prefer Bd6. I am less concerned about an isolated pawn or taking with the queen if NxN.
If we allow the creation of our own isolated pawn it negates everything we have attempted to do up to this point. I think one of the main reasons players at our level lose to players st Kaspy's level is that we're unable to maintain ideas- we react to his moves and give up our previous plans. We've already done that once in this game- our initial plan was controlling the e4 square. We gave that up for the even better plan of giving white an isolated pawn in the center of the board which will give us a decisive advantage in the endgame IF WE CAN GET THERE. Everything we do at this point needs to be based on maintaining that pawn in the center and trying to reach the endgame.
 
OK I just looked it up. We are still in book. Both Be7 and Bd6 are viable moves and if we do play Bd6 he won't play NxN (at least it's not a book move). I don't get it but that's what it is.

Obviously there's a lot more to this that is way beyond my comprehension level...

 
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I prefer Bd6. I am less concerned about an isolated pawn or taking with the queen if NxN.
If we allow the creation of our own isolated pawn it negates everything we have attempted to do up to this point. I think one of the main reasons players at our level lose to players st Kaspy's level is that we're unable to maintain ideas- we react to his moves and give up our previous plans. We've already done that once in this game- our initial plan was controlling the e4 square. We gave that up for the even better plan of giving white an isolated pawn in the center of the board which will give us a decisive advantage in the endgame IF WE CAN GET THERE. Everything we do at this point needs to be based on maintaining that pawn in the center and trying to reach the endgame.
One statement that sticks with me from the video: pinning the knight tells your opponent you're willing to give up the bishop pair in exchange for early position/development. I personally never pin the knight early like we did here, because maybe I overvalue bishops. But the point is, the philosophy behind this opening includes potentially trading the bishop for his knight. At least that's how I understand it.
 
I prefer Bd6. I am less concerned about an isolated pawn or taking with the queen if NxN.
If we allow the creation of our own isolated pawn it negates everything we have attempted to do up to this point. I think one of the main reasons players at our level lose to players st Kaspy's level is that we're unable to maintain ideas- we react to his moves and give up our previous plans. We've already done that once in this game- our initial plan was controlling the e4 square. We gave that up for the even better plan of giving white an isolated pawn in the center of the board which will give us a decisive advantage in the endgame IF WE CAN GET THERE. Everything we do at this point needs to be based on maintaining that pawn in the center and trying to reach the endgame.
One statement that sticks with me from the video: pinning the knight tells your opponent you're willing to give up the bishop pair in exchange for early position/development. I personally never pin the knight early like we did here, because maybe I overvalue bishops. But the point is, the philosophy behind this opening includes potentially trading the bishop for his knight. At least that's how I understand it.
But that was in order to get doubled pawns. That's gone now.
 
I prefer Bd6. I am less concerned about an isolated pawn or taking with the queen if NxN.
If we allow the creation of our own isolated pawn it negates everything we have attempted to do up to this point. I think one of the main reasons players at our level lose to players st Kaspy's level is that we're unable to maintain ideas- we react to his moves and give up our previous plans. We've already done that once in this game- our initial plan was controlling the e4 square. We gave that up for the even better plan of giving white an isolated pawn in the center of the board which will give us a decisive advantage in the endgame IF WE CAN GET THERE. Everything we do at this point needs to be based on maintaining that pawn in the center and trying to reach the endgame.
One statement that sticks with me from the video: pinning the knight tells your opponent you're willing to give up the bishop pair in exchange for early position/development. I personally never pin the knight early like we did here, because maybe I overvalue bishops. But the point is, the philosophy behind this opening includes potentially trading the bishop for his knight. At least that's how I understand it.
But that was in order to get doubled pawns. That's gone now.
Yup, little point in capturing the N now; in fact it actually hurts us. e7

 

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