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FBGs vs Kasparov- chess game- Draw agreed to (1 Viewer)

It's a move that maintains some imbalance in the position.

If Nxc3, that preserves the IQP position and trades off a set of minor pieces, but at the cost of aiding his development slightly.

If bxc3, that switches to a hanging pawn structure for White.

If we just retreat to d6 and he captures on d5, we have a pretty boring symmetric position with very little risk. I doubt he captures on d5 though. Bd6 is fine.

 
Look if he's not going to capture on d5 if we play Bd6, then I done see why we should aid his development with Nxc3.

But before we agree on Bd6 I do think we should look at White's options after that move.

 
If Bd6, the two most common responses by white is to castle (in which case we castle too) or Ne4. Now what does Ne4 do and how do we respond to it?

 
It looks to me like after Bd6 Ne4 we are at a disadvantage. Play these two moves and then look at the board. White's pieces are all developed. Black is still looking for ways to develop its white squared bishop. Black has to move his black squared bishop AGAIN after just moving it unless we're willing to give up the bishop pair. White's isolated pawn, which is a detriment in the endgame, is an asset in the middlegame because he's going to try and push it forward.

Now maybe a GM or IM can turn all of this to his advantage but we don't have those skills. Wouldn't Bd7 be safer?

 
After Ne4 Be7, White's pieces don't stand very well. There's no good place to put the dark square bishop, and he can't move the e2-knight without hanging the pawn on d4. His development is a bit awkward actually.

 
What does anyone think of this sequence?

... Bxc3+

10. bxc3 Nxc3

11. Nxc3 Qxd4

Trading a piece for 2 pawns & 1 left alone on the a file?

 
We would be giving up most of our developed pieces to lose material for no compensation. Pieces are worth a lot more than pawns in the middlegame.

 
SacramentoBob said:
After Ne4 Be7, White's pieces don't stand very well. There's no good place to put the dark square bishop, and he can't move the e2-knight without hanging the pawn on d4. His development is a bit awkward actually.
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OK I trust your ability to read the board better than mine.
 
Keep in mind our focus remains keeping the isolated pawn on d4. We can't allow it to advance. Which means we need to control the d5 square, currently occupied by our knight.

So that means we're gonna want to play Bb7 after all.

 
jeremy Silman (I know some of you don't like him but still...) wrote that for the middlegame you should picture where you want your pieces and then try to get them there.

In this position I think we want a bishop at b7, and rooks on c7 and c8. Not sure about the queen. Trade all our pieces on the c file and go to endgame. Voila!

 
derek245583 said:
dancingbones said:
What does anyone think of this sequence?

... Bxc3+

10. bxc3 Nxc3

11. Nxc3 Qxd4

Trading a piece for 2 pawns & 1 left alone on the a file?
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May as well add Qc2 to that string
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Derek is right - if we start by capturing the knight with our bishop, it will probably play out just like that. But if you actually play it out and look at the board, it isn't pretty for black. I'd take a pic but my phone isn't working. I'd retreat to d6.

 
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I think I like Ba5.

If he moves b4, then we go Bb6, which I think is a lovely place for our bishop - it would have a bead on the IQP on d4 & then the King eventually once he castles.

If he doesn't go b4, then we maintain the pin on the Knight until he castles or pushes his bishop to d2.

 
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dancingbones said:
I think I like Ba5.

If he moves b4, then we go Bb6, which I think is a lovely place for our bishop - it would have a bead on the IQP on d4 & then the King eventually once he castles.

If he doesn't go b4, then we maintain the pin on the Knight until he castles or pushes his bishop to d2.
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Ba5 is not book. Until the book moves are done I don't think we should veer from them, because it usually means there is something TERRIBLY wrong with this move and Kaspy will find it. Book options are Bd6, Be7, and Nxc3.

 
wdcrob said:
McGarnicle said:
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A dumb question...Why would white agree to this line? Looking at the board, what has he got in return for the isolated pawn? I guess he has more mobility with the 2nd bishop, but is that it? If so, is that alone worth it?
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He didn't agree to it. He got #####slapped. He's probably having trouble concentrating at work today, and questioning his manhood. I actually feel sorry for him.
 
I don't think he'd play Bb5 but castling makes it irrelevant.

I think white wants to push the d pawn and attack. We want to stop that from happening. The other thing white may try to do, according to Bob, is attack our king maybe with the bishop sack on h7. We need to defend against that.

 
So, does anyone like a bishop sac of our own?

... Bxh2+

11. Kxh2 Qh4+

12. Kg1 Nxd4

2 pawns for a bishop, would this get us somewhere?

 
dancingbones, the point of our opening was to get that isolated pawn and get it to the endgame. If we have an advantage that's it. I don't think we should be looking for tactical attacks that distract from that idea.

 
culdeus said:
I'm lazy. Has castling always been in the rules? It seems such a strange concept. Who came up with it?
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Between 1200 and 1600 several laws emerged that drastically altered the game. Checkmate became a requirement to win; a player could not win by capturing all of the opponent's pieces. Stalemate was added, although the outcome has changed several times (see History of the stalemate rule). Pawns gained the option of moving two squares on their first move, and the en passant rule was a natural consequence of that new option. The king and rook acquired the right to castle (see Variations throughout history of castling for different versions of the rule).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_chess

 
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