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FFA Movie Poll - 1974 Countdown Monday is here. (1 Viewer)

A combination. I can't stand many of the "big hits" of that year (some sounding like "pinseption" and "the special fleshtwerk" for example) that I've seen, and many of the others I have no interest in seeing.
Pretty sure it's no pron allowed.

 
Also a few kids movies that I thought were top notch: train your dragon and toy story 3 at the top.
Also great.  I have fond memories of Despicable Me and Megamind too just because my son was watching these movies a ton, but they aren't on the same level.

As long as we are bringing them up, others that I thought were damn good movies:  Black Swan, The Kids Are Alright, Blue Valentine, Animal Kingdom, Never Let Me Go, Incendies, Rabbit Hole, and the amazing Tucker & Dale vs. Evil.  

And I actually like a bit of the mainstream stuff too:  The Town, The Fighter, the two that Gr00vus didn't like, Shutter Island, Easy A.

 
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I haven't checked to see if this is indeed the whole movie, but it appears to be.  

Starting up Texas Chainsaw Massacre right now (with NCAA bball in the background) - I want to finish before it starts to get dark. :scared:  
yes, it's intact. rewatched it today for the 1st time in 30 yrs. marvelous -

 
Also great.  I have fond memories of Despicable Me and Megamind too just because my son was watching these movies a ton, but they aren't on the same level.

As long as we are bringing them up, others that I thought were damn good movies:  Black Swan, The Kids Are Alright, Blue Valentine, Animal Kingdom, Never Let Me Go, Incendies, Rabbit Hole, and the amazing Tucker & Dale vs. Evil.  

And I actually like a bit of the mainstream stuff too:  The Town, The Fighter, the two that Gr00vus didn't like, Shutter Island, Easy A.
Tiny furniture was pretty auspicious.

 
That is one in my pile of '10 movies that I haven't seen but want to get to for the poll.  The others were the documentary Marwencol and Greenberg. 
If you liked the first season it two of Girls, it's worth the watch. We saw it before the show was made and loved it (and the show later)

 
The Conversation - 30

The Godfather Part II - 29

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre - 28

Chinatown - 20

Blazing Saddles - 20

Young Frankenstein - 18

Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore - 15

The Longest Yard - 10

The Trial of Billy Jack - 3

Benji - 2

Death Wish - 2

Herbie Rides Again - 1
 
I found the Vietnam War documentary “Hearts and Minds” on YouTube and have been watching that tonight.

I can’t imagine watching this in 1974/1975. Such a powerful doc.

 
I found the Vietnam War documentary “Hearts and Minds” on YouTube and have been watching that tonight.

I can’t imagine watching this in 1974/1975. Such a powerful doc.
I was going to ask if anyone else would have this on their list.  It will be on mine.

If I could pimp another movie for those who are struggling to come up with a full list, please watch Ali:  Fear Eats the Soul.  It appears to be rentable on Amazon.  If it weren't for the fact 1974 has Godfather Part II, this might be my top film of the year.  It's just a small, unexpectedly compelling and moving drama about a 60-something German woman and 30-something Moroccan man who form a friendship, and then a romance, much to the consternation of their friends and family.  It addresses issues of race and age without being at all heavy-handed.  Just a beautiful movie that has stayed with me for the 15 years or so since I saw it.  Great use of sound, light, picture...and incredibly, amazing performances.

 
OK, watched Texas Chain Saw Massacre.  This was a very, very good movie.  Surprisingly great, actually.  Somehow it had lodged itself in my brain as just a slasher film, and I was completely wrong.  The cinematography was fantastic, the use of sound terrific, and the ever-increasing sense of doom was, while not terrifying to me, impressively creepy.  Some of those scenes, such as the one near the end with the woman tied up and the four (including Grandpa) men doing their things, will stick with me for a long time.  Holy cow.  I can see now why this movie is considered so ground-breaking.

On the "use of sound" front, I really loved the scene with the first girl in the house and she falls into the room with the chicken.  The "bock bock bock" of the chicken sounded like he was laughing at her.  Creepy!

My small criticism is that some of the first half of the movie reaaaaalllllly draaaaaaags.  And I love slow-paced movies.  But that's only a small flaw, made up for by everything else.  I"ll think about this one for a while, taking it all in.  Never would have watched it without these threads! :thumbup:  

 
The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz. It made the careers of Dreyfus & Quaid and pretty much established the Canadian Film Board, without which we wouldnt have had Egoyan, Arcand (Barabarian Invasions), maybe even Cronenberg
Brilliant. Just finsihed watching it. Man, what a movie. Thanks for the rec. 

 
I found the Vietnam War documentary “Hearts and Minds” on YouTube and have been watching that tonight.

I can’t imagine watching this in 1974/1975. Such a powerful doc.
It will be just behind GF2, Conversation and Chinatown in my rankings. It is obviously manipulative and doesn't present both sides of the story, but it lays total waste to the American government and American male mentality. I felt like it got deep into the roots of violence in America today and is a film every America needs to see. 

 
I am curious where people will stand on Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia. Is it one of the worst movies of all time or is it a masterpiece? 

 
I was going to ask if anyone else would have this on their list.  It will be on mine.

If I could pimp another movie for those who are struggling to come up with a full list, please watch Ali:  Fear Eats the Soul.  It appears to be rentable on Amazon.  If it weren't for the fact 1974 has Godfather Part II, this might be my top film of the year.  It's just a small, unexpectedly compelling and moving drama about a 60-something German woman and 30-something Moroccan man who form a friendship, and then a romance, much to the consternation of their friends and family.  It addresses issues of race and age without being at all heavy-handed.  Just a beautiful movie that has stayed with me for the 15 years or so since I saw it.  Great use of sound, light, picture...and incredibly, amazing performances.
I watched this one new for the poll and absolutely loved it.  I posted elsewhere that a movie I haven't seen before would have to probably knock my socks off to get pretty high points comparable to movies I have known and love, and this was one of them.  I believe I gave it the same points as Godfather II on my list.  

 
It will be just behind GF2, Conversation and Chinatown in my rankings. It is obviously manipulative and doesn't present both sides of the story, but it lays total waste to the American government and American male mentality. I felt like it got deep into the roots of violence in America today and is a film every America needs to see. 
It is definitely one-sided, and I see some people like Ebert criticizing it for that. But, man, some of the stuff in there (such as the end with Westmoreland) is going to linger. It may have just moved into top 5 for me.

 
I watched this one new for the poll and absolutely loved it.  I posted elsewhere that a movie I haven't seen before would have to probably knock my socks off to get pretty high points comparable to movies I have known and love, and this was one of them.  I believe I gave it the same points as Godfather II on my list.  
watching it now...

 
OK, watched Texas Chain Saw Massacre.  This was a very, very good movie.  Surprisingly great, actually.  Somehow it had lodged itself in my brain as just a slasher film, and I was completely wrong.  The cinematography was fantastic, the use of sound terrific, and the ever-increasing sense of doom was, while not terrifying to me, impressively creepy.  Some of those scenes, such as the one near the end with the woman tied up and the four (including Grandpa) men doing their things, will stick with me for a long time.  Holy cow.  I can see now why this movie is considered so ground-breaking.

On the "use of sound" front, I really loved the scene with the first girl in the house and she falls into the room with the chicken.  The "bock bock bock" of the chicken sounded like he was laughing at her.  Creepy!

My small criticism is that some of the first half of the movie reaaaaalllllly draaaaaaags.  And I love slow-paced movies.  But that's only a small flaw, made up for by everything else.  I"ll think about this one for a while, taking it all in.  Never would have watched it without these threads! :thumbup:  
all it ever needs is a chance for someone to divorce themselves from the preconceived genre trepidation - now, i can dig why some avoid it due to those supposed constraints, but ... when simply evaluated for it's stand alone brilliance as a masterpiece of cinema, it shines.

here's a pretty cool look, from a fella with a kooky accent -

** SPOILER **  it's kinda graphic in spots, and for those who haven't seen it yet, but plan to, it divulges too much for y'all to see 

Making Daylight Scary 

 
I ruled it a 1974 movie earlier in the thread because there was about 7 different dates attached to it and wiki said it was initially released in 1974.  
Weird to have all the conflicting info on release date. IMDB shows it was first released in 73 at San Sebastian Film Festival and then not released anywhere else until 75. Then I did see the part in Wikipedia about a 74 release. Anyway, now I have another movie to see. 

 
Weird to have all the conflicting info on release date. IMDB shows it was first released in 73 at San Sebastian Film Festival and then not released anywhere else until 75. Then I did see the part in Wikipedia about a 74 release. Anyway, now I have another movie to see. 
That's Welles. He's got a half dozen nearly-complete pictures sitting in vaults, unreleaseable due to finance or tied up in legal red tape. One of the first screenplays i tried to write was the story of his first "independent" film, shot in Latin America right after Magnificent Ambersons, which i honestly believe splintered his cinematic mind because he felt he had shot the Face of God at a funeral in Brazil. It was 50 years before enough film was recovered from the project to understand his original intent. His greatest masterpiece next to Kane, Chimes at Midnight, was shot in so many bursts over such a long period of time, that actors aged and even died through the course. That's Welles.

 
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That's Welles. He's got a half dozen nearly-complete pictures sitting in vaults, unfinished due to finance or tied up in legal red tape. One of the first screenplays i tried to write was the story of his first "independent" film, shot in Latin America right after Magnificent Ambersons, which i honestly believe splintered his cinematic mind because he felt he had shot the Face of God at a funeral in Brazil. It was 50 years before enough film was recovered from the project to understand his original intent. His greatest masterpiece next to Kane, Chimes at Midnight, was shot in so many bursts over such a long period of time, that actors aged and even died through the course. That's Welles.
I think this explains the confusion with the Sinbad movie too.

 
That's Welles. He's got a half dozen nearly-complete pictures sitting in vaults, unreleaseable due to finance or tied up in legal red tape. One of the first screenplays i tried to write was the story of his first "independent" film, shot in Latin America right after Magnificent Ambersons, which i honestly believe splintered his cinematic mind because he felt he had shot the Face of God at a funeral in Brazil. It was 50 years before enough film was recovered from the project to understand his original intent. His greatest masterpiece next to Kane, Chimes at Midnight, was shot in so many bursts over such a long period of time, that actors aged and even died through the course. That's Welles.
I think the person that posted the release on Wikipedia might just have been wrong, but IDK. I still wonder why Welles abandoned Ambersons instead of staying around to make sure it as edited to his liking. It seems like that mistake played a big role in his career derailing. 

 
I think the person that posted the release on Wikipedia might just have been wrong, but IDK. I still wonder why Welles abandoned Ambersons instead of staying around to make sure it as edited to his liking. It seems like that mistake played a big role in his career derailing. 
He didn't abandon Ambersons. It was donedonedone. It was also wartime, so when Nellie Rockefeller & Averill Harriman told him that him doing a cultural exchange in Latin America would go a long way toward gathering more support from our southern neighbors in the war effort (and gave him a long tab), he went. He was fascinated by the rituals like Dia de Los Muertos and Carnival and had a ball filming them and having a 24/7 party on his hotel floor in Rio, until a hero of the Brazilian workers struggle was killed and he went to film his smalltown funeral & had his 'moment' with God. No one knows if the pols got Welles away from Hollywood at WRHearst's behest, but he & his people certainly took advantage of it, getting RKO to recut Ambersons & ruining his rep in movie circles.

 
He didn't abandon Ambersons. It was donedonedone. It was also wartime, so when Nellie Rockefeller & Averill Harriman told him that him doing a cultural exchange in Latin America would go a long way toward gathering more support from our southern neighbors in the war effort (and gave him a long tab), he went. He was fascinated by the rituals like Dia de Los Muertos and Carnival and had a ball filming them and having a 24/7 party on his hotel floor in Rio, until a hero of the Brazilian workers struggle was killed and he went to film his smalltown funeral & had his 'moment' with God. No one knows if the pols got Welles away from Hollywood at WRHearst's behest, but he & his people certainly took advantage of it, getting RKO to recut Ambersons & ruining his rep in movie circles.
He knew RKO had editing rights and he knew nobody was all that happy with the final cut her turned in. You certainly know more about Welles than I do, but the circumstances here aways seemed questionable to me. 

 
He knew RKO had editing rights and he knew nobody was all that happy with the final cut her turned in. You certainly know more about Welles than I do, but the circumstances here aways seemed questionable to me. 
Probably comes down to his legendary impatience and the runaway train of a career which had him believing no one would interfere with his 'genius'. That's why i thought his run-in with the divine @ Fortaleza was such a great idea for a film - a human being had never reached the heights Welles had in 1942.

ETA: My late friend Bill Kelley - novelist & screenwriter - turned me on to the idea. He came up to Reno from his house in the Sierras regularly to see his opthamologist (he was going blind) and we played cards together and ended up friends. The theme of his books was usually religion going off the rails (he got an Oscar for writing "Witness" - the cop in Amish country) and he told me the Welles story, i think, as a way of keeping his idea alive. When "It's All True" came out a few years later after 50 yrs in a vault, a lot of his assertions were backed up, so i started working on it.

 
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I was going to ask if anyone else would have this on their list.  It will be on mine.

If I could pimp another movie for those who are struggling to come up with a full list, please watch Ali:  Fear Eats the Soul.  It appears to be rentable on Amazon.  If it weren't for the fact 1974 has Godfather Part II, this might be my top film of the year.  It's just a small, unexpectedly compelling and moving drama about a 60-something German woman and 30-something Moroccan man who form a friendship, and then a romance, much to the consternation of their friends and family.  It addresses issues of race and age without being at all heavy-handed.  Just a beautiful movie that has stayed with me for the 15 years or so since I saw it.  Great use of sound, light, picture...and incredibly, amazing performances.
There's also a pretty good print available on YouTube.  The subtitles are a little iffy but Fassbinder is often as much about the awkward silences surrounding words than the words themselves.

 
Mrs. Eephus and I saw Mahler's 5th symphony performed last night. :thumbup:

I struck out this morning looking for Ken Russell's 1974 film about the composer :thumbdown:

 
Mrs. Eephus and I saw Mahler's 5th symphony performed last night. :thumbup:

I struck out this morning looking for Ken Russell's 1974 film about the composer :thumbdown:
Showbox

Showbox home d'load

i only use it via Kodi ... the latest addon i'm using there has thousands of movies (including the Mahler one) available - again, i have not straight downloaded it to any device, just stream it through Kodi 'droid box, so dunno how it will perform otherwise ... but tons of these movies are offered there.

 
Showbox

Showbox home d'load

i only use it via Kodi ... the latest addon i'm using there has thousands of movies (including the Mahler one) available - again, i have not straight downloaded it to any device, just stream it through Kodi 'droid box, so dunno how it will perform otherwise ... but tons of these movies are offered there.
Hmm.  I have a first gen Fire stick that I never use. 

 
Hmm.  I have a first gen Fire stick that I never use. 
fire that baby up, install Incursion - the movie catalog there is staggering ... every '74 flick mentioned up in here is available, dev pulls very crisp feeds from Showbox - you will be blown away by the content.  

 
"Hearts and Minds" won the Oscar for best documentary.   One of the other nominees was "The Challenge - A Tribute to Modern Art" which was released in either 1974 or 75.  The director Herbert Kline had a fascinating backstory himself and his contacts in art world gave him access to film the surviving giants of 20th Century art in their studios.

The movie is available on YouTube.  I've only made it about halfway through but will probably return when I'm in the mood.  The film is very straightforward and focuses on the art of its subjects much more than the art of film making.  Welles appears as an on-screen narrator which makes up for the annoying music that seems to pipe in whenever he appears.

 
Yeah.  Interesting times coming up for the band.  Michael Tilson Thomas is retiring in 2020 so every visiting conductor comes in with a bit more intrigue.
Leonard Slatkin who really saved the and steered the DSO into solid ground is stepping down this spring so I am curious to see what the future brings for them. It's such a monumental challenge to keep something like that going today. 

 
Just now realizing Peter Falk stars in A Woman Under the Influence. This might be difficult to take serious.

 

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