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FFA Movie Poll - 2005 Countdown Monday!! (2 Viewers)

That's why 500 works.  Sure there might be a year or two when you get 30 lists, but for the most part 20 to 25 is solid.  And to get 500 means everyone had to put it in the 20's and higher. 
Especially going forward since we seem to have settled into a similar core group of 20-25 who are sending in lists.  Not sure we have the interest to spike to that initial 35 that did the 1999 poll.  I think Fight Club and/or Matrix could be borderline cases because of how many lists they were on vs. something like Fast Times, but this ain't science.  

 
I couldn't sleep last night so watched two of the movies you guys recommended.

The Matador: :lmao:   I'm laughing not because the movie was so funny (though I did laugh quite a bit), but because I just don't get this movie.  How was it greenlighted?  I can't picture that pitch!  How did they get Pierce Brosnan attached to that role?  And how was it marketed?  I guess not very well, since it didn't make much money, but I'm befuddled as to how one would successfully market it.  Dysfunctional buddy movie?  This movie was pretty ####ed up, and I mean that in a complimentary way!  I actually liked it quite a bit despite myself, and it will definitely stick with me as not like any other movie I've seen.  Will be getting some points from me.  I admire the ballsiness.

Thank You for Smoking:  Wow, what a stellar cast, but they were mostly used to portray such over-the-top caricatures that I ultimately found it irritating.   Started off strong as a smart satire, but too much beating me over the head with it all.  Felt like the same wink-wink joke being played over and over.  It also seemed disjointed - like it could use some editing to tie the storylines together better instead of seeming almost like a series of vignettes.  Just didn't work for me, which was disappointing because I have a couple of friends who are the lawyer counterparts to the main character, and I've been in arguments where they claim with a straight face that smoking doesn't have negative health effects, so I was particularly interested in the subject matter.

 
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I have 13 Tzameti on deck for tonight.  Leave it to @krista4 to suggest movie in a foreign language AND in B&W.   :rolleyes:

;)

I also have Paradise Now and Death of Mr. Laz....

 
Thank You for Smoking:  Wow, what a stellar cast, but they were mostly used to portray such over-the-top caricatures that I ultimately found it irritating.   Started off strong as a smart satire, but too much beating me over the head with it all.  Felt like the same wink-wink joke being played over and over.  It also seemed disjointed - like it could use some editing to tie the storylines together better instead of seeming almost like a series of vignettes.  Just didn't work for me, which was disappointing because I have a couple of friends who have the lawyer counterparts to the main character, and I've been in arguments where they claim with a straight face that smoking doesn't have negative health effects, so I was particularly interested in the subject matter.
Fitting you should post this.  I have been staring at my list the last couple days trying to narrow down my list and had a vague memory of what you described here - the movie trailing off a bit as it went on.  I get the feeling that I still found it funnier than you did, but after I had that recollection, I moved it down the list a bit and it's one of the borderline movies as far a getting points now.  

On the other hand, I watched Kiss Kiss Bang Bang last night again and loved it just as much.  Downey Jr. and Val Kilmer are gold.  

 
The line in Thank You For Smoking about "It pays the bills" being the Yuppie Nuremberg Defense is my favorite movie quote ever.
:lmao:   There were definitely some great lines.  I liked this one:  "After watching the footage of the Kent State shootings, Bobby Jay, then seventeen, signed up for the National Guard so that he, too, could shoot college students."

 
I have 13 Tzameti on deck for tonight.  Leave it to @krista4 to suggest movie in a foreign language AND in B&W.   :rolleyes:

;)

I also have Paradise Now and Death of Mr. Laz....
:lmao:   I have more where that came from! ;)

Without looking back at my list, I think those three plus Cache were my favorite foreign films that year.

On the other hand, I watched Kiss Kiss Bang Bang last night again and loved it just as much.  Downey Jr. and Val Kilmer are gold.  
I'm going with either that one or Good Luck and Good Luck next.

 
:lmao:   I have more where that came from! ;)

Without looking back at my list, I think those three plus Cache were my favorite foreign films that year.

I'm going with either that one or Good Luck and Good Luck next.
Was thinking Cache was my top movie for the year..

 
I'm going to give 13 Tzatziki a go...sounds delicious
Next to 7up, the 1 Kefte movies (a look at Greek-operated eateries around the globe) is my favorite documentary series. I like 4 Spanikopita (about Antarctica's only diner), 7 Souvlakkia (the trials & tribulations of operating a food cart on the Turkish side of Cyprus) and 13 Tzatziki are my favorites.

 
Is the best scene of 2005 Tim Treadwell going “Wheew he’s a big bear! He’s a big bear! A very big bear. Wow.”

 
Is the best scene of 2005 Tim Treadwell going “Wheew he’s a big bear! He’s a big bear! A very big bear. Wow.”
There was a scene where he was scolding a grizzly like it was a ####in toddler that has always stuck out to me.  And of course watching him just listening to the audio of what happened... 

 
@krista4 - yes, I did watch 13 Tzameti the other night.  Not sure if it will get into the points range for me, but I really enjoyed it.  It's a little choppy and student-filmy, but it's also a good, ####ed up premise and the lead actor pulled me in.  Also a quality ending.   Thanks for the recommendation.   Not quite as messed up, but it reminded me a little of my experience with Audition in that for the first 1/3 or so of the movie you are wondering WTF is going on, and then the crazy starts up.

I still have a couple the other foreign ones to get to as well, but so far Cache is leading the pack by a fair bit for foreign movies for this year.  

Also, I had to laugh - as I was looking around and reading a little about 13 Tzameti after I watched it, I saw that (of course) there was an American remake of it.  It stars Jason Statham and 50 Cent. I am sure you will be bumping that on up your queue... :popcorn:

 
@krista4 - yes, I did watch 13 Tzameti the other night.  Not sure if it will get into the points range for me, but I really enjoyed it.  It's a little choppy and student-filmy, but it's also a good, ####ed up premise and the lead actor pulled me in.  Also a quality ending.   Thanks for the recommendation.   Not quite as messed up, but it reminded me a little of my experience with Audition in that for the first 1/3 or so of the movie you are wondering WTF is going on, and then the crazy starts up.

I still have a couple the other foreign ones to get to as well, but so far Cache is leading the pack by a fair bit for foreign movies for this year.  

Also, I had to laugh - as I was looking around and reading a little about 13 Tzameti after I watched it, I saw that (of course) there was an American remake of it.  It stars Jason Statham and 50 Cent. I am sure you will be bumping that on up your queue... :popcorn:
:lmao:   Oh yeah, that'll definitely top my list.

I can see the "student-filmy" quality you mention on 13 Tzameti.  IIRC it was two brothers who wrote/directed/starred in it.  I need to see if they've done any movies after that one.  Glad you enjoyed it!

I've watched two more since my last post:

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang - by God why didn't anyone warn me about all the voiceover?!?!?!  And it wasn't just regular voiceover, but the extra-irritating "talking directly to the audience members" #### where he would say things like "Have you, dear audience, figured this out yet?" or whatever.  Even setting that aside, I don't think I would have liked this movie.  I found the two leads charming (Downing Jr and some woman I've not seen before, but she was very good), and that's about all I liked about it.  Really, in 2005, a character being gay leads to that many lame joke attempts?  Storyline was boring to me, didn't really hit the noir vibe I'd hoped for, just a mess IMO.  This was a big disappointment to me as I went in expecting a lot more out of this one.

Good Night, and Good Luck. - Meh.  Very pretty cinematography, but I"m surprised at how they could take such a compelling story and make it so...yawn-inducing.  Maybe a deeper focus on a few characters will have made it more interesting - as it was, I felt we got only the surface of everyone involved, even Murrow.  Didn't get what made anyone in this movie tick.  I was pleasantly surprised to find Patricia Clarkson in here, but she sure wasn't given much to do.

Oh, but Clarkson means that 2005 movies I've seen have hit my superfecta of lady crushes:

Patricia Clarkson - this movie

Catherine Keener - Capote

Emily Mortimer - Match Point

Hope Davis - The Matador

:wub:  

 
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A little more...

I thought it was funny that, after watching Thank You for Smoking, the next two movies I watched had all the main characters smoking.  I understood it in Good Night, given the time (when they even smoked while broadcasting the news!), but I wonder what kind of pay-off they made to get the two leads in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang not only smoke, but puff big rings in eachother's faces.

Also, I looked to see to whom Straitharn (again, :wub:  ) had lost the Oscar that year, and it was to Philip Seymour Hoffman in Capote.  Can't argue that.  Also saw that Joaquim Phoenix was nominated that year for Walk the Line.  Seemed unusual that three of the five nominees that year played real people.  Wonder if that is unusual?

Also also, the last few movies I've watched have made me wonder why both Aaron Eckhardt and Greg Kinnear never became bigger stars.  

 
Well, I guess if it's not a doc, rare foreign movie she hasn't seen, or a horror/comedy I am going to stop suggesting movies to krista.  ;)

I am usually right there with you with the voiceovers, but still love KKBB.  Maybe it's my Downey man-crush blinding me?  

I haven't seen it since it came out, but from what I remembered I thought the GN,GL would have been up your alley too when I saw it was on your watch list.  

 
Well, I guess if it's not a doc, rare foreign movie she hasn't seen, or a horror/comedy I am going to stop suggesting movies to krista.  ;)

I am usually right there with you with the voiceovers, but still love KKBB.  Maybe it's my Downey man-crush blinding me?  

I haven't seen it since it came out, but from what I remembered I thought the GN,GL would have been up your alley too when I saw it was on your watch list.  
Oh stop.  You've recommended plenty of other stuff I liked.

When I was going through the movies I was considering watching for this year, I read a bunch out loud to Mr krista and he thought KKBB was the best of the lot.  You're not alone.  And Downey was really good in it.

I was even more surprised by GNGL - thought that would be right up my alley, too.  

I'm still planning to watch The Descent and L'enfant, though I guess the latter won't count if I like it since it's foreign. ;)  

 
Oh stop.  You've recommended plenty of other stuff I liked.

I'm still planning to watch The Descent and L'enfant, though I guess the latter won't count if I like it since it's foreign. ;)  
:pokey:

As I re-watch some of these and look into them more, I am realizing how hazy my memory is on movies too.   I have seen those two just the once.  

After looking at stuff, I am not sure I have seen Lady Vengeance, so I am going to pop that in over then next couple nights.   I absolutely love Oldboy, and I think what I did is watch the 1st in the trilogy after seeing Oldboy (Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance), so I believe I am thinking of that movie b/c of the similar title so I am not 100%.   I still haven't seen Junebug, so that is in my pile as it the other two foreign movies that you suggested.  I saw that one is 2 1/2 hours +, so I put it off the other night.   I also was planning to re-watch The Descent if there is time too.  

 
:lmao:   Oh yeah, that'll definitely top my list.

I can see the "student-filmy" quality you mention on 13 Tzameti.  IIRC it was two brothers who wrote/directed/starred in it.  I need to see if they've done any movies after that one.  Glad you enjoyed it!
:lmao:   @krista4 - I looked it up, and one of the other movies that he directed was the American remake.   It ALMOST makes me curious enough to watch it.  

It looks like the two collaborated on a 2017 movie titled Money that looks interesting as well.  The other directing credit was for a short movie titled L'héritage.

 
Also also, the last few movies I've watched have made me wonder why both Aaron Eckhardt and Greg Kinnear never became bigger stars.  
Kinnear hurt himself because he was so pretty i think too many folks believed he was gay (YTWSWWTT) from As Good As It Gets. As for Eckhardt, do we really need a cross between Harrison Ford & Robert Redford delivering everything with heart, command & humor?!

 
I watched Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and had the same thoughts as Krista on the narration. I tend to like film noirs, but a bit too much fourth wall and “hey, did you notice we’re making a 40s style film noir” kind of stuff.

Also watched The French Connection for 1971 research. I last watched it in college, and was kind of meh on it then. I wanted to see if that had changed, but not really. I’ll definitely give it some solid points, but I never got the AFI top 100 love for it.

 
:pokey:

As I re-watch some of these and look into them more, I am realizing how hazy my memory is on movies too.   I have seen those two just the once.  

After looking at stuff, I am not sure I have seen Lady Vengeance, so I am going to pop that in over then next couple nights.   I absolutely love Oldboy, and I think what I did is watch the 1st in the trilogy after seeing Oldboy (Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance), so I believe I am thinking of that movie b/c of the similar title so I am not 100%.   I still haven't seen Junebug, so that is in my pile as it the other two foreign movies that you suggested.  I saw that one is 2 1/2 hours +, so I put it off the other night.   I also was planning to re-watch The Descent if there is time too.  
I'm not rewatching anything I've already seen (too many other movies I want to watch!), so my memory is hazy on a lot of these, too.  Please don't give up on giving me recommendations!  I'll be curious to hear your thoughts on Junebug.  I remember thinking highly of it at the time, but I remember practically zero of it now, so it probably won't get points in what I think was a strong year.

:lmao:   @krista4 - I looked it up, and one of the other movies that he directed was the American remake.   It ALMOST makes me curious enough to watch it.  

It looks like the two collaborated on a 2017 movie titled Money that looks interesting as well.  The other directing credit was for a short movie titled L'héritage.
Oh good god. :lmao:  

Kinnear hurt himself because he was so pretty i think too many folks believed he was gay (YTWSWWTT) from As Good As It Gets. As for Eckhardt, do we really need a cross between Harrison Ford & Robert Redford delivering everything with heart, command & humor?!
I wondered if the Kinnear issue could be that he played a gay guy in his first major role. :lmao:  on your Eckhardt analysis.  Why indeed.

 
Just PMed my list.  Ended up more top heavy than usual with 3 movies getting 29+ points and only 6 getting more than 10.

 
One suggestion:

For those that send in our picks through a message, just a brief response "I received your picks". Thanks.

 
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire  20

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory  20

Batman Begins  20

Enron:  The Smartest Guys in the Room  14

Kicking & Screaming  14

Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith  14

49 Up   14

The Aristocrats  14

The 40-Year-Old Virgin  10

Capote  10

Broken Flowers  8

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy  8

March of the Penguins  6

Walk the Line  6

Thank You For Smoking  6

New York Doll  6

The Devil and Daniel Johnston  3

The Chronicles of Narnia:  3

Syriana  2

Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit  2

 
Man...had to cut like 10 movies out. Had 30 listed.

So we cut it down to 20.

Batman Begins - 30 

40 Year Old Virgin - 30

Munich - 20

Wedding Crashers - 20

The Devils Rejects - 15

Fever Pitch - 15

King Kong -10

War Of The Worlds - 10

Hostel - 10

Harry Potter and The Goblet Of Fire - 5

Hitch - 5

Madagascar - 3

Capote - 5

The Cave - 1

Good Night And Good Luck - 5

House of Wax - 1

The Skeleton Key - 3

Star Wars Episode III Revenge Of The Sith - 6

Walk The Line - 3

Brokeback Mountain - 3

 
Have barely seen anything from this year.  My list is going to make some heads explode.  Only go to 76 total points.

The Descent - 20

A History of Violence - 15

Star Wars episode III - 12

40 Year Old Virgin - 8

Flightplan - 7

Hostel - 5

Wedding Crashers - 3

Madagascar - 2

Wolf Creek - 2

Chicken Little - 1

Saw II - 1
 
I watched Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and had the same thoughts as Krista on the narration. I tend to like film noirs, but a bit too much fourth wall and “hey, did you notice we’re making a 40s style film noir” kind of stuff.

Also watched The French Connection for 1971 research. I last watched it in college, and was kind of meh on it then. I wanted to see if that had changed, but not really. I’ll definitely give it some solid points, but I never got the AFI top 100 love for it.
KKBB is my wheelhouse but I agree, it's not all that well executed. I like it and it will likely get some points, but it was a letdown from how excited I was to see it a few years ago. I also agree on The French Connection. It's a good movie, but I don't see it cracking my top 5 for the year yet alone being an all time classic. I imagine that it's grittiness was really exciting and fresh for the time. Since then, it's been copied so much that it seems pedestrian. 

 
Actually updated it after further thought:

The movie I added is damn good. In fact pretty freaking awesome (I bolded it). I had no problem dropping the ones I needed to so I can give it at least 10 points. 

Batman Begins - 30 

40 Year Old Virgin - 30

Munich - 20

Wedding Crashers - 20

The Devils Rejects - 15

Fever Pitch - 15

King Kong -10

War Of The Worlds - 10

Hostel - 10

The Descent - 10

Harry Potter and The Goblet Of Fire - 5

Hitch - 5

Madagascar - 3

Capote - 5

Good Night And Good Luck - 5

House of Wax - 1

Star Wars Episode III Revenge Of The Sith - 6


 

 
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30 - Batman Begins

30 - Cinderella Man

25 - Star Wars III: REVENGE of the Sith

15 - Sky High

15 - The Lion, Witch, Wardrobe 

15 - Walk The Line

5 - Hitch

5 - The Jacket

5 - Robots

5 - Kingdom of Heaven

5 - Unleashed

5 - The Descent

5 - Mr & Mrs Smith

5 - War of the Worlds

5 - The Island

5 - Red Eye

5 - A Sound of Thunder (terrible movie, guilty pleasure)

5 - Lord of War

5 - The Greatest Game Ever Played

5 - King Kong

 
Has anyone seen Match Point? Hitchkockian perfection. And even though I am new to it, more people should be watching Grizzly Man. 

 
Woody Allen? I'm out. 
If you just won't see it because Woody is a creep, that is fine and I get it. However, if you are saying it because you don't like his work, I would suggest trying it. Woody isn't in the movie and it doesn't have any of his brand of humor. Really it is half Hitchcock and half A Place in the Sun/An American Tragedy. It's nothing like a Woody Allen movie- it's even set in London, not New York. 

 
If you just won't see it because Woody is a creep, that is fine and I get it. However, if you are saying it because you don't like his work, I would suggest trying it. Woody isn't in the movie and it doesn't have any of his brand of humor. Really it is half Hitchcock and half A Place in the Sun/An American Tragedy. It's nothing like a Woody Allen movie- it's even set in London, not New York. 
No, that's not it. I like Chinatown in spite of Polanski.

I just have never enjoyed Allen's style. But if you're saying this is different I can see giving it a try. You had me at Hitchcock. 

 
No, that's not it. I like Chinatown in spite of Polanski.

I just have never enjoyed Allen's style. But if you're saying this is different I can see giving it a try. You had me at Hitchcock. 
If I hadn't know it was a Woody Allen film (and if his name wasn't in the credits), I would never ever think it was by him. I actuallty almost consider it the 3rd film in the creepy tennis player caught in a murder plot trilogy: Strangers on a Train, Dial M for Murder and Match Point. 

 
Has anyone seen Match Point? Hitchkockian perfection. And even though I am new to it, more people should be watching Grizzly Man. 
It has been awhile since I've watched Match Point, but I remember enjoying it.  I think it was also around the peak of my ScarJo infatuation.

 

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