lol @ stafford
####### amazing.Nah, this #### ain't fixed.'Billy Bats said:Yea, we all know how this game is going to end.
Was thinking about this at work today and then forgot about. Thanks for the reminder. Think this had to be the play vs the lions the remainder of the year or at least the 1st half against. They suck, and then make every game look close by scoring TD's in the 4th qtr with less than 2 minutes left that are usually meaninglessBears 1st qtr -.5In all 5 of their games combined, the Lions have had the lead for a grand total of :22.
9 team teaser paid 12 to 1, plus 6 units! Cha Ching!Added a couple of late bets. Made the Cowboys a 2 unit play.Played the overs in both the GB/ST. L. game and the NO/TB game.And NYJ/NE over 47Oak/Jax under 44 1/2Huge NFL card today and I REALLY like a bunch of games. That usually means I'm in for an ### whipping. Here goes:Card's +7 -PUSHCowboys -2 (2 units) WINRams +6 -LOSSRams +200 ML (just under 1/3 unit) -LOSSTexans -7 -WINBucs +3 -LOSSBills -3 -LOSSGiants -6 -LOSSTB/NO over 49 -WINGB/St. L over 45 -WINNE/NYJ over 47 -WINOak/Jax under 44 1/2 -LOSS6 team 7 point teaser: LOSSNiners PK -WINCards +13 -WINTexans PK -WINGiants +1 -WINPats -4 -LOSSBears +17 team parlay with the spreads from above with -LOSSSF, AZ, NYG, BUF, HOU, TB, CHI7 point teaser -WINSF PKHOU PK6 point teaser -WINSF -1NYG PK9 team 7 point teaser -WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!AZ +14 -WINHOU PK -WINRAMS +13 -WINBOYS +5 -WINNYG +1 -WINBUCS +8 1/2 -WINJETS +18 -WINOAK +1 -WINCHI +1/2 -WIN2012 NFL RECORD26-25-1 +1.66 units
Trade Ohio. Nothing else matters. If every single cable outlet came out and said Barry won 67 to 33 tonight, and Rasmusen came out with a poll that showed Ohio was 51-49 Mitt I'd start buying mitt anything above even money.****TACTICAL DISCUSSION****I think Obama salted it away tonight, barring some massive scandal/voter fraud over the next couple weeks. My guess is that he's going to be back up to around -300 tomorrow. Best spots to get him were either early on pre-conventions, or after that first debate.
Trade Ohio. Nothing else matters. If every single cable outlet came out and said Barry won 67 to 33 tonight, and Rasmusen came out with a poll that showed Ohio was 51-49 Mitt I'd start buying mitt anything above even money.****TACTICAL DISCUSSION****I think Obama salted it away tonight, barring some massive scandal/voter fraud over the next couple weeks. My guess is that he's going to be back up to around -300 tomorrow. Best spots to get him were either early on pre-conventions, or after that first debate.
The debate tonight is not gonna move any lines. Intrade is about the same. I've been playing Romney in NC, Florida, Col and VA, and Obama in a few other states. I think its a coin flip for the electoral win right now.If the first debate could move the debate that significantly, than this one can certainly repair the damage for Obama/erase Romney's gains. To quote from Mr. Silver's Twitter:Trade Ohio. Nothing else matters. If every single cable outlet came out and said Barry won 67 to 33 tonight, and Rasmusen came out with a poll that showed Ohio was 51-49 Mitt I'd start buying mitt anything above even money.****TACTICAL DISCUSSION****I think Obama salted it away tonight, barring some massive scandal/voter fraud over the next couple weeks. My guess is that he's going to be back up to around -300 tomorrow. Best spots to get him were either early on pre-conventions, or after that first debate.The debate tonight is not gonna move any lines. Intrade is about the same. I've been playing Romney in NC, Florida, Col and VA, and Obama in a few other states. I think its a coin flip for the electoral win right now.
FWIW.Nate Silver @fivethirtyeightI have no idea what (if any) bounce the debate will produce. Important to note, however, that a 1-point swing is HUGE at this point.
This year the second debate got just under 1 million less viewers, not incredibly significant with an audience of 67 million. This one will surely draw less due to MNF and baseball on at the same time. Foreign policy is certainly the one people have trouble grasping, just read the debate thread tonight.I think the first debate is always most watched and most important![]()
Silver gives Obama a 72% chance of winning Ohio, and Romney a 67% chance of winning FL. Don't know if I'd say either is necessarily locked up. And it is more feasible that Obama wins without Florida than Romney without Ohio.Out of respect for the best Thread in the FFA, I'm not going to take us down the rabbit hole that is politics. I'll simply say I don't think you can bet Barry at the odds he is laying with Ohio so close. If you can get Mitt at +200 or better then go for it. Until we get more news on Ohio, you are trading on information that doesn't matter. From what I can tell neither guy can win without Ohio. The Math doesn't work with Florida being locked up by Mitt. Also - Ohio has gone with the winner of the election in 10 of the last 10 elections.
Out of respect for the best Thread in the FFA, I'm not going to take us down the rabbit hole that is politics. I'll simply say I don't think you can bet Barry at the odds he is laying with Ohio so close.

also from his pageSilver gives Obama a 72% chance of winning Ohio, and Romney a 67% chance of winning FL. Don't know if I'd say either is necessarily locked up. And it is more feasible that Obama wins without Florida than Romney without Ohio.Out of respect for the best Thread in the FFA, I'm not going to take us down the rabbit hole that is politics. I'll simply say I don't think you can bet Barry at the odds he is laying with Ohio so close. If you can get Mitt at +200 or better then go for it. Until we get more news on Ohio, you are trading on information that doesn't matter. From what I can tell neither guy can win without Ohio. The Math doesn't work with Florida being locked up by Mitt. Also - Ohio has gone with the winner of the election in 10 of the last 10 elections.
It's kinda taken me by surprise a little. If I recall, isn't Ohio worth fewer electoral votes this year due to rezoning/census changes?I was expecting "us" to be less important, but judging by the volume of political fliers I'm getting in the mail each day, it clearly isn't. Oh, and I put 1u on Obama to win Ohioalso from his pageSilver gives Obama a 72% chance of winning Ohio, and Romney a 67% chance of winning FL. Don't know if I'd say either is necessarily locked up. And it is more feasible that Obama wins without Florida than Romney without Ohio.Out of respect for the best Thread in the FFA, I'm not going to take us down the rabbit hole that is politics. I'll simply say I don't think you can bet Barry at the odds he is laying with Ohio so close. If you can get Mitt at +200 or better then go for it. Until we get more news on Ohio, you are trading on information that doesn't matter. From what I can tell neither guy can win without Ohio. The Math doesn't work with Florida being locked up by Mitt. Also - Ohio has gone with the winner of the election in 10 of the last 10 elections.robability that a state provides the decisive electoral vote:1. Ohio: 49.9%2. Wisconsin: 10.0%3. Virginia: 10.0%4. Nevada: 8.7%5. Iowa: 6.8%Man, Ohio is going to be nuts on election day.
verlander needs to win for them to win the series imo, I'd rather take his -140 than their -165.detroit got hammered overnight, betonline opened at -125 and now sits at -165verlander -140 G1 o6.5-120 are the lines they postedSeries line makes sense with the Verlander/Zito matchup in G1
1 big one down, 6 to goI'm going Giants 18-1If they win tonight, the odds are going to come down big time. I think either team is beating the Tigers and the Giants are capable of 3 straight here. The biggest challenge is tonight.Cardinals to win World Series, just over 1 1/2 units to win 2 units. Covers me on my 2 unit bet on the Tigers to win it all at 6-1.Odds were 13-10.

Judging by the signs in the yards....I think Mitt takes OhioOf course, I havent ventured into the ghetto or Cleveland yet...It's kinda taken me by surprise a little. If I recall, isn't Ohio worth fewer electoral votes this year due to rezoning/census changes?I was expecting "us" to be less important, but judging by the volume of political fliers I'm getting in the mail each day, it clearly isn't. Oh, and I put 1u on Obama to win Ohioalso from his pageSilver gives Obama a 72% chance of winning Ohio, and Romney a 67% chance of winning FL. Don't know if I'd say either is necessarily locked up. And it is more feasible that Obama wins without Florida than Romney without Ohio.Out of respect for the best Thread in the FFA, I'm not going to take us down the rabbit hole that is politics. I'll simply say I don't think you can bet Barry at the odds he is laying with Ohio so close. If you can get Mitt at +200 or better then go for it. Until we get more news on Ohio, you are trading on information that doesn't matter. From what I can tell neither guy can win without Ohio. The Math doesn't work with Florida being locked up by Mitt. Also - Ohio has gone with the winner of the election in 10 of the last 10 elections.robability that a state provides the decisive electoral vote:1. Ohio: 49.9%2. Wisconsin: 10.0%3. Virginia: 10.0%4. Nevada: 8.7%5. Iowa: 6.8%Man, Ohio is going to be nuts on election day.
I hedged out of my Cardinals bet last night by playing SF. I'm letting DET ride at this point. I'm confident.1 big one down, 6 to goI'm going Giants 18-1If they win tonight, the odds are going to come down big time. I think either team is beating the Tigers and the Giants are capable of 3 straight here. The biggest challenge is tonight.Cardinals to win World Series, just over 1 1/2 units to win 2 units. Covers me on my 2 unit bet on the Tigers to win it all at 6-1.Odds were 13-10.![]()
Not sure why people keep saying this. Giants won all three games in Cincinnati to take that series then promptly came home and lost game 1 and three of the first four. Hockey playoffs have momentum, I really don't think baseball has such a thing.betus has Detroit -175 and SF +145 for the series.
Verlander is up to -170 versus Zito at +150.
I like the momentum that SF has, but it's hard to bet against Verlander. I'll likely wait until after game 1, hope the SF number goes up and put 3 units on SF to take the series and just play each game/props as I see fit.
Momentum? Momentum is the next day's starting pitcher.Earl WeaverNot sure why people keep saying this. Giants won all three games in Cincinnati to take that series then promptly came home and lost game 1 and three of the first four. Hockey playoffs have momentum, I really don't think baseball has such a thing.betus has Detroit -175 and SF +145 for the series.
Verlander is up to -170 versus Zito at +150.
I like the momentum that SF has, but it's hard to bet against Verlander. I'll likely wait until after game 1, hope the SF number goes up and put 3 units on SF to take the series and just play each game/props as I see fit.
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Have you ever played baseball? Momentum is HUGE, especially in the playoffs.The Giants just came back from a 3-1 deficit to win the NLCS. Detroit beat a Yankees team that had largely given up. SF is at home, Detroit has to travel. Granted, due to the pitching matchup, game 1 looks like a Detroit win, but SF has proven that an early deficit hasn't affected them much at all.Not sure why people keep saying this. Giants won all three games in Cincinnati to take that series then promptly came home and lost game 1 and three of the first four. Hockey playoffs have momentum, I really don't think baseball has such a thing.betus has Detroit -175 and SF +145 for the series.
Verlander is up to -170 versus Zito at +150.
I like the momentum that SF has, but it's hard to bet against Verlander. I'll likely wait until after game 1, hope the SF number goes up and put 3 units on SF to take the series and just play each game/props as I see fit.
K, thanks Marshall PlanHAVE YOU EVER PLAYED THE BEISBOL? BECAUSE I WAS A MEMBER OF THE 1986 CALIFORNIA ANGELS AND I KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO! SORRY YOU DON'T SEE IT!!!!!1`111212e111!Have you ever played baseball? Momentum is HUGE, especially in the playoffs.The Giants just came back from a 3-1 deficit to win the NLCS. Detroit beat a Yankees team that had largely given up. SF is at home, Detroit has to travel. Granted, due to the pitching matchup, game 1 looks like a Detroit win, but SF has proven that an early deficit hasn't affected them much at all.Not sure why people keep saying this. Giants won all three games in Cincinnati to take that series then promptly came home and lost game 1 and three of the first four. Hockey playoffs have momentum, I really don't think baseball has such a thing.betus has Detroit -175 and SF +145 for the series.
Verlander is up to -170 versus Zito at +150.
I like the momentum that SF has, but it's hard to bet against Verlander. I'll likely wait until after game 1, hope the SF number goes up and put 3 units on SF to take the series and just play each game/props as I see fit.
I'm sorry if you don't see that the momentum is on SF's side, but there are a lot of people that do.
ETA: Detroit now -180, SF +150.
We are now running about 40,000 Electoral College simulations each day. In the simulations that we ran on Monday, the candidate who won Ohio won the election roughly 38,000 times, or in about 95 percent of the cases.
Unlikely does not equal impossible, but Ohio is central enough in the electoral math that it now seems to matter as much as the other 49 states put together.
####### Leyland is a moron but word around the campfire is this changes if the Tigers lose Game 1.Wait...Scherzer's pitching Game 4? WTF?
Holy crap! Doug Decinces is a member of FBG's?? Or is this John Candelaria?? Perhaps an ex whitesox...... pitcher Terry Forster or Brian Downing?? YOu're not Reggie are you??K, thanks Marshall PlanHAVE YOU EVER PLAYED THE BEISBOL? BECAUSE I WAS A MEMBER OF THE 1986 CALIFORNIA ANGELS AND I KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO! SORRY YOU DON'T SEE IT!!!!!1`111212e111!Have you ever played baseball? Momentum is HUGE, especially in the playoffs.The Giants just came back from a 3-1 deficit to win the NLCS. Detroit beat a Yankees team that had largely given up. SF is at home, Detroit has to travel. Granted, due to the pitching matchup, game 1 looks like a Detroit win, but SF has proven that an early deficit hasn't affected them much at all.Not sure why people keep saying this. Giants won all three games in Cincinnati to take that series then promptly came home and lost game 1 and three of the first four. Hockey playoffs have momentum, I really don't think baseball has such a thing.betus has Detroit -175 and SF +145 for the series.
Verlander is up to -170 versus Zito at +150.
I like the momentum that SF has, but it's hard to bet against Verlander. I'll likely wait until after game 1, hope the SF number goes up and put 3 units on SF to take the series and just play each game/props as I see fit.
I'm sorry if you don't see that the momentum is on SF's side, but there are a lot of people that do.
ETA: Detroit now -180, SF +150.
Another "great thing" about the EC.http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/23/oct-22-ohio-has-50-50-chance-of-deciding-election/#more-36534good piece from Silver on Ohio
We are now running about 40,000 Electoral College simulations each day. In the simulations that we ran on Monday, the candidate who won Ohio won the election roughly 38,000 times, or in about 95 percent of the cases.Unlikely does not equal impossible, but Ohio is central enough in the electoral math that it now seems to matter as much as the other 49 states put together.
"I'm not the manager because I'm always right, but, I'm always right because I am the manager." ---Gene Mauch---Holy crap! Doug Decinces is a member of FBG's?? Or is this John Candelaria?? Perhaps an ex whitesox...... pitcher Terry Forster or Brian Downing?? YOu're not Reggie are you??K, thanks Marshall PlanHAVE YOU EVER PLAYED THE BEISBOL? BECAUSE I WAS A MEMBER OF THE 1986 CALIFORNIA ANGELS AND I KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO! SORRY YOU DON'T SEE IT!!!!!1`111212e111!Have you ever played baseball? Momentum is HUGE, especially in the playoffs.The Giants just came back from a 3-1 deficit to win the NLCS. Detroit beat a Yankees team that had largely given up. SF is at home, Detroit has to travel. Granted, due to the pitching matchup, game 1 looks like a Detroit win, but SF has proven that an early deficit hasn't affected them much at all.Not sure why people keep saying this. Giants won all three games in Cincinnati to take that series then promptly came home and lost game 1 and three of the first four. Hockey playoffs have momentum, I really don't think baseball has such a thing.betus has Detroit -175 and SF +145 for the series.
Verlander is up to -170 versus Zito at +150.
I like the momentum that SF has, but it's hard to bet against Verlander. I'll likely wait until after game 1, hope the SF number goes up and put 3 units on SF to take the series and just play each game/props as I see fit.
I'm sorry if you don't see that the momentum is on SF's side, but there are a lot of people that do.
ETA: Detroit now -180, SF +150.
Dear God, why take chances? So in one corner we've got a guy who might let his 2nd best pitcher pitch in Game 4, despite being on full rest, and is just now figuring out that Jose Valverde might not be a great guy to use in any sort of important situation, against a guy who intentionally walks Daniel DeCalso, warms up his best reliever when he's up 6 runs, and refuses to bring his best OF back when he's done with his suspension.I love baseball!####### Leyland is a moron but word around the campfire is this changes if the Tigers lose Game 1.Wait...Scherzer's pitching Game 4? WTF?