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Fitzgerald makes Boldin, or Vice Versa? (Poll Added) (1 Viewer)

Which is the better reciever?

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  • Boldin

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  • They are equal.

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Eminence

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Let's see Boldin's numbers when Fitz is out:

22/267/1

(Four Games)

With an AVG of:

6/67/.25

Far too low for this apparent "BEAST" everyone is talking about.

Now let's see Fitz' numbers when Boldin is out:

47/611/6

(Seven Games)

With an AVG of:

7/87/.85

Who's making who?

 
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You're also forgetting to include the 6 games during Fitz's rookie year when he didn't have Boldin.

Which is convenient for you, because I don't think those games would help your extremely weak cause.

 
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There really is not much difference...other then the extra .60 TDs Boldin gets. Basically, it is one extra reception with Fitz.

 
They are both spectacular, and they help eachother to be even better. 2 top 5 WRs on the same team - with a very good QB as well. Fantasy gold!

 
I've been saying this for years:

Boldin > Fitz.

Fitz is a better deap threat, Boldin is a better all-around WR.

 
JMJ said:
I've been saying this for years:Boldin > Fitz.Fitz is a better deap threat, Boldin is a better all-around WR.
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Nah, Boldin is great but hes not better than Fitz. Neither are burners, but Fitz has the best hands Ive ever seen possibly, and his route running is so precise. Boldin is a little more physical, but Fitz is no slouch in that area either. Nobody in the league goes up and get the ball at its highest point like Fitz does. Pretty much every opponent goes into games against the Cards with priority #1 being contain Fitz.
 
JMJ said:
I've been saying this for years:Boldin > Fitz.Fitz is a better deap threat, Boldin is a better all-around WR.
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As much as I like your avatar, I have to disagree. I'd also disagree with those who say Fitzgerald is definitely better than Boldin. They're both great at the goal-line, they both have speed and they both can make tough catches. At this point the numbers only suggest who a QB might favor, and that seems to be Boldin.
 
Eminence said:
Let's see Boldin's numbers when Fitz is out:

22/267/1

(Four Games)

With an AVG of:

6/67/.25

Far too low for this apparent "BEAST" everyone is talking about.

Now let's see Fitz' numbers when Boldin is out:

47/611/6

(Seven Games)

With an AVG of:

7/87/.85

Who's making who?
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The only games that your listing of when Boldin played without Fitzgerald was when Matt Leinart was QB. That effects the numbers quite significantly imo.
 
I think Boldin is more of the stud of the two, with Fitz being better WR. Fitz to me is more of the athlete of the two. I guess what I'm trying to say is that they're both studs! lol

 
Q was dropping 100 rock seasons before Fitzgerald was even in the league.

If I had to choose one of them in real life I'd take Q every day of the week.

 
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
JMJ said:
I've been saying this for years:Boldin > Fitz.Fitz is a better deap threat, Boldin is a better all-around WR.
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As much as I like your avatar, I have to disagree. I'd also disagree with those who say Fitzgerald is definitely better than Boldin. They're both great at the goal-line, they both have speed and they both can make tough catches. At this point the numbers only suggest who a QB might favor, and that seems to be Boldin.
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:rolleyes: those that claim one is clearly better then the other don't understand football at all.
 
Eminence said:
Let's see Boldin's numbers when Fitz is out:

22/267/1

(Four Games)

With an AVG of:

6/67/.25

Far too low for this apparent "BEAST" everyone is talking about.

Now let's see Fitz' numbers when Boldin is out:

47/611/6

(Seven Games)

With an AVG of:

7/87/.85

Who's making who?
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You already got called out in the "who's #1 WR" thread. Did you really have to make a whole separate thread to show everyone how silly this is?As everyone has pointed out, are you not aware of Boldin's rookie season?

 
I like both, I just happen to like Quan more, I think he is the more complete WR. Tougher too. In my opinion, Q is the most underrated receiver in the league, it's been like that for the last few years now. While everybody gravitates towards the sexier statistical guy who can jump out of the gym, I'll take Q in real life everyday of the week. He might be the only guy in the NFL other than TO and Steve Smith that can take a 5 yard hitch route and take it to the house every time.

Fitzgerald is probably the most athletic receiver in the NFL. His body control, especially in the air is amazing. To a certain extent, he needs a competent QB to maximize his game. Now you can say that about pretty much every WR out there but here is why I think so. If you appreciate guys that can create on their own, then you like guys like Boldin. Fitzgerald is a go-get-it, "I can jump higher than you" type of receiver. Kind of like Calvin Johnson in Detroit where they dominate you with their extraordinary physical ability to outrun you, outjump you, outphysical you, etc.....But these receivers need ball placement, a QB that can get the ball their first.

But if what you are looking for is a guy that can create away from the ball - will block, move the chains, and catch every kind of ball anywhere on the field and make that tough catch over the middle - you want Boldin. His route running is on another level compared to Fitzgerald. That is why Warner looks for him so much between the 20's because he is constantly open. The ability to sell your route and consistently get open is overlooked when drafting talent at this position. You're not going to find that in a 40 time or a vert. Consistent route running equates to a more consistent and polished receiver. That's a big reason why Boldin has the highest receptions per game rate since he stepped foot in the NFL. Sloppy route runners like Braylon Edwards and Plaxico Burress are inconsistent statistically because their route running isn't consistent. Your 40 yard post route should look the same as your 10 yard dig/hitch.

I think the tandem of Boldin and Fitzgerald works so well because they have a quarterback that can anticipate better than most. So the ball is out of his hands before the corner back can react. Now you add that ability to two physical receivers with great hands on both sides of the field? Forget it. It's like taking candy from a kid. And it's a wonder why Breaston gets so much love on those underneath routes. The trio of Warner, Fitzgerald and Boldin has translated into the most explosive passing offense in the NFL this year.

Boldin gets it to the redzone, and Fitzgerald often gets it in the redzone because he is a great finisher. But one thing some people may not realize about Boldin is he can finish just as good as evidenced by his TD totals so far this year. He can do everything Fitzgerald can do, if not better.

 
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boldin had 100 receptions when Fitz wasn't there. I think Boldin has the most receptions in his first 2 years than any other WR ever. Fitz doesn't make him, I think it's better to think of them as Harrison/Wayne kindof help each other.

 
What makes Boldin is that when he catches a pass inside the 10, he's almost impossible to stop.

Most of his TD catches seem to be this type.

 
As I remember, everyone was down on Q around draft time because last year's numbers looked bad with the injury. If memory serves me correctly, Fitz was injured the year before and the opposite was true. Anquan is more physical, better at RAC while Fitz has great hands, better leaping ability. Anquan definitely jumps out as the better WR when you watch. They are both the kind of receiver that you could throw toward on every down and defenses still couldn't stop you. For my money, I'd take Fitz over Anquan for my fantasy team. That might be biased by the fact that I've had him 3 out of four years, and his consistency is just of the charts.

2005 103/1409/10

2007 100/1409/10

On pace for 101/1406/10-11

You can set your clocks to it. Anquan's numbers, on the other hand, fluctuate like most WR's. Particularly TD's. They're up this year, so everybody loves him. Next year, I'll grab fitz a round after him.

 
lol @ this thread. Boldin makes Boldin. He already stated publicly that he will not resign with the Cardinals because they wronged him in his eyes, watch him produce just the same on his next NFL team... that's also if the team he goes to has a QB that earns his paycheck.

 
so Boldin has had been a scoring machine. is it possible teams are game planning to stop Fitz and Boldin reaps the benefits? now teams see Boldin tearin it up, and will now gameplan more for him, moreso than Fitz. so maybe Fitz will see more fortuitous coverage in the near future??? just a thought.

all i know for sure, is Warner still has it, and makes that offense go.

 
Mikey16x said:
lol @ this thread. Boldin makes Boldin. He already stated publicly that he will not resign with the Cardinals because they wronged him in his eyes, watch him produce just the same on his next NFL team... that's also if the team he goes to has a QB that earns his paycheck.
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LOL.......................... Thats old news dude. I could link a few quotes that have been made by Boldin and Graves that the water is well under the bridge.. Mark my word Boldin is a Cardinal in 2009 and as far as this post is concerned Fitz does not make Boldin.. Boldin does make Fitz look overpaid though.
 
Manster said:
is it possible teams are game planning to stop Fitz and Boldin reaps the benefits?
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Thats pretty much what you hear at the start of every Cardinal game. Announcer will always reference that the opposing team has made it a point to take Fitz out of the game, or at least try to.
 
Tecmo said:
boldin had 100 receptions when Fitz wasn't there. I think Boldin has the most receptions in his first 2 years than any other WR ever. Fitz doesn't make him, I think it's better to think of them as Harrison/Wayne kindof help each other.
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156, crazy. I think Colston is the most with 168.
 
Fitz is a great WR, however he isn't among the most athletic WR in the league. he can jump/time/be physical/and snag extremely well. his IQ is also way up there-- that much has been touted by many including chris carter since Fitz early early Days at Pitt. his overall speed/burst/wiggle aren't really much above average however. Q makes the tough plays and is the clutch WR and much more likely to turn nothing into something spectacular. and anyone that says that Fitz has the greatest hands they've ever seen must not be over the age of 20. they're are guys of recent vintage besides Jerry the GOAT like Chris Carter and Easy Ed that make Fitz hands look as reliable as Koro's.

 
ninerfanatic492000 said:
and anyone that says that Fitz has the greatest hands they've ever seen must not be over the age of 20. they're are guys of recent vintage besides Jerry the GOAT like Chris Carter and Easy Ed that make Fitz hands look as reliable as Koro's.
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It's hard to compare him to the all time greats already, but he's got the best hands in the NFL right now.
 
Tecmo said:
boldin had 100 receptions when Fitz wasn't there. I think Boldin has the most receptions in his first 2 years than any other WR ever. Fitz doesn't make him, I think it's better to think of them as Harrison/Wayne kindof help each other.
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ARZ had to throw every play...down 20 points in the 1st quarter and many of those ctaches were 3 yard glorified runs. :goodposting: I love Boldin...best receiver after the catch in the league by far...but Fitz may close in on the all-time greats near the end...I just see Boldin's life span not lasting really long given his physical play.
 
ninerfanatic492000 said:
and anyone that says that Fitz has the greatest hands they've ever seen must not be over the age of 20. they're are guys of recent vintage besides Jerry the GOAT like Chris Carter and Easy Ed that make Fitz hands look as reliable as Koro's.
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No WR in the history of the game has made Fitz's hands look bad in comparison. Not saying Fitz has the best hands ever, but your statement is ridiculous.
 
I think a lot of what people see is based on a few things. First, both of these guys are great WRs, so any time one blows up, it makes the other look like he is not as good. However, the best part of Fitz's game comes before he gets the ball, route running, foot work, etc., making it harder to compare to Boldin, who is probably better after he gets the ball. This is not to say Fitz is not also very good after getting the ball in his hands, just that his game is not as strong as Boldin's in this regard. Boldin's game, however, while also very good before getting the ball, is stronger after it's in his hands, likely not as strong as Fitz's pre-catching tangibles. He makes more people miss, and has that knack to just get to the next level of defenders. Both guys do things differently, yet excel in all aspects of the game. I think some of this, however, is skewed because what Boldin does a bit better is more visible. Either way, we are splitting hairs, in my opinion, anyway.

 
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Fitz & Boldin

==

Swann & Stallworth

Both great and both excelled because of each other.

 
It's completely irrelevant who's better. In that offense there's plenty to go around for everyone to be happy.

But if I had to pick one, I'd give the slight edge to the guy that had Nate Clements draped all over him Monday Night, and yet still was able to catch 7 balls and a TD.

 
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ninerfanatic492000 said:
and anyone that says that Fitz has the greatest hands they've ever seen must not be over the age of 20. they're are guys of recent vintage besides Jerry the GOAT like Chris Carter and Easy Ed that make Fitz hands look as reliable as Koro's.
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No WR in the history of the game has made Fitz's hands look bad in comparison. Not saying Fitz has the best hands ever, but your statement is ridiculous.
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:goodposting:
 
ninerfanatic492000 said:
Fitz is a great WR, however he isn't among the most athletic WR in the league. he can jump/time/be physical/and snag extremely well. his IQ is also way up there-- that much has been touted by many including chris carter since Fitz early early Days at Pitt. his overall speed/burst/wiggle aren't really much above average however. Q makes the tough plays and is the clutch WR and much more likely to turn nothing into something spectacular. and anyone that says that Fitz has the greatest hands they've ever seen must not be over the age of 20. they're are guys of recent vintage besides Jerry the GOAT like Chris Carter and Easy Ed that make Fitz hands look as reliable as Koro's.
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It depends on how you define athleticism. Speed and burst don't really have much to do with athleticism. That has more to do with raw explosiveness. Athleticism has more to do with footwork and how well you control your body. Just because a guy has a 45 inch vert does not mean he is more athletic than the guy with the 40 inch vert. If the guy with the 45 inch vert has no idea how to control it, it means nothing.Fitz has amazing body control. The best body control I've seen (adjusting to poor thrown balls, torquing the body, agility) since Ocho. Fitz is not as quick as Ocho since he's a lot bigger, but he plays under more control in my opinion.

 
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BUTTER said:
The BEST one two three in FB....period
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Seriously, Breaston might be better than half the #1 WRs in the NFL. (ok, that's a stretch, but he's better than a few #1s and better than most #2s).
 
Mr. Mojo said:
ninerfanatic492000 said:
and anyone that says that Fitz has the greatest hands they've ever seen must not be over the age of 20. they're are guys of recent vintage besides Jerry the GOAT like Chris Carter and Easy Ed that make Fitz hands look as reliable as Koro's.
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It's hard to compare him to the all time greats already, but he's got the best hands in the NFL right now.
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Just ask Bill Maas. Announcing the Cards/Panthers game. "Fitzgerald's hands are like cobras!"For my money I think Tony Gonzalez has the best hands overall. If he can reach it then it belongs to him. Fitzy has top 10 hands on any given Sunday but to say they are the best is a bit of a reach in my opinion.
 
the UFFRM said:
Mr. Mojo said:
ninerfanatic492000 said:
and anyone that says that Fitz has the greatest hands they've ever seen must not be over the age of 20. they're are guys of recent vintage besides Jerry the GOAT like Chris Carter and Easy Ed that make Fitz hands look as reliable as Koro's.
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It's hard to compare him to the all time greats already, but he's got the best hands in the NFL right now.
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Just ask Bill Maas. Announcing the Cards/Panthers game. "Fitzgerald's hands are like cobras!"For my money I think Tony Gonzalez has the best hands overall. If he can reach it then it belongs to him. Fitzy has top 10 hands on any given Sunday but to say they are the best is a bit of a reach in my opinion.
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Wow what the F does this even mean? We need a "stupid things announcers have said" thread. Do cobras have some innate ability to catch footballs that I don't know about? Is he spitting at the ball? Joe or someone needs to make a photoshop of this.
 
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