Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch (2 Viewers)

[tdoss]

Have they cleared this poor guy of all charges yet? How damned long does it take?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Breaking UPDATE!!!!.....

(AP) May 27, 2013: This thread still sucks.

Im just happy that Jojo the circus boy isnt on Treyvons side, what a train wreck his posts are.

Says the guy who has not posted a single incriminating thing against Zimmerman, just feeble gibberish.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed.

not really

 

[BustedKnuckles]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed.

not really

great comeback

 

[Christo]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed.

not really

Even if Trayvon was standing his ground it doesn't mean Zimmerman is guilty of murder.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed.

not really

great comeback

if you're going to just spew nonsense, there's not much more to say.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed.

not really

great comeback

if you're going to just spew nonsense, there's not much more to say.

you dont think if treyvon wasnt killed that he wouldnt have claimed self defense ??? really?

 

[jon_mx]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

I am not sure following is even an element in the stand your ground claim, but regardless it all depends on the time frame you consider. Trevon had plenty of time to escape, but it appears he stopped and waited for Zimmerman and then approached and confronted him. Physically assaulting someone is a crime BTW. So let's be a little bit honest with things here.

 

[Witz]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

I am not sure following is even an element in the stand your ground claim, but regardless it all depends on the time frame you consider. Trevon had plenty of time to escape, but it appears he stopped and waited for Zimmerman and then approached and confronted him. Physically assaulting someone is a crime BTW. So let's be a little bit honest with things here.

Plus possession of marijuana, intent to sell marijuana, possession of an unlicensed firearm but than again, it doesn't fit into the narrative BK likes to spin, so it's irrelevant to his story.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

I am not sure following is even an element in the stand your ground claim, but regardless it all depends on the time frame you consider. Trevon had plenty of time to escape, but it appears he stopped and waited for Zimmerman and then approached and confronted him. Physically assaulting someone is a crime BTW. So let's be a little bit honest with things here.

what the hell is wrong with people....they act like it was treyvon who picked george out of a crowd and decided to follow him and not the other way around...its baffles my sensabilities that people are so blind

 

[BustedKnuckles]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

I am not sure following is even an element in the stand your ground claim, but regardless it all depends on the time frame you consider. Trevon had plenty of time to escape, but it appears he stopped and waited for Zimmerman and then approached and confronted him. Physically assaulting someone is a crime BTW. So let's be a little bit honest with things here.

Plus possession of marijuana, intent to sell marijuana, possession of an unlicensed firearm but than again, it doesn't fit into the narrative BK likes to spin, so it's irrelevant to his story.

wow...just ...wow

 

[jon_mx]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

I am not sure following is even an element in the stand your ground claim, but regardless it all depends on the time frame you consider. Trevon had plenty of time to escape, but it appears he stopped and waited for Zimmerman and then approached and confronted him. Physically assaulting someone is a crime BTW. So let's be a little bit honest with things here.

what the hell is wrong with people....they act like it was treyvon who picked george out of a crowd and decided to follow him and not the other way around...its baffles my sensabilities that people are so blind

In my life I have never held someone on the ground and pounded their face in. It baffles my sensabilities that people don't have a problem with that. Last I checked, there is nothing illegal about following someone.

 

[Witz]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

I am not sure following is even an element in the stand your ground claim, but regardless it all depends on the time frame you consider. Trevon had plenty of time to escape, but it appears he stopped and waited for Zimmerman and then approached and confronted him. Physically assaulting someone is a crime BTW. So let's be a little bit honest with things here.

Plus possession of marijuana, intent to sell marijuana, possession of an unlicensed firearm but than again, it doesn't fit into the narrative BK likes to spin, so it's irrelevant to his story.

wow...just ...wow

So your preference is to only bring up anything scandalous from Zimmerman's past but Martin's is off limits? Got it.

Is it also off limits to talk about the released information that indicates that Martin was in a number of heated arguments with this girlfriend on the day in question which could speak to his state of mind on the day in question (the same girlfriend that he was on the phone with who has changed her story a couple of times already on what she heard and has also already lied to the authorities)?

It was a horrible tragedy that Martin lost his life, but to continue to act as if he may not have contributed to the situation is naive at best, despite additional information available that seems to indicate it.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

I am not sure following is even an element in the stand your ground claim, but regardless it all depends on the time frame you consider. Trevon had plenty of time to escape, but it appears he stopped and waited for Zimmerman and then approached and confronted him. Physically assaulting someone is a crime BTW. So let's be a little bit honest with things here.

what the hell is wrong with people....they act like it was treyvon who picked george out of a crowd and decided to follow him and not the other way around...its baffles my sensabilities that people are so blind

George picked Trayvon out of a crowd?

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

BTW, this is the most "wow, just wow" worthy post in the thread.

 

[pantherclub]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

I am not sure following is even an element in the stand your ground claim, but regardless it all depends on the time frame you consider. Trevon had plenty of time to escape, but it appears he stopped and waited for Zimmerman and then approached and confronted him. Physically assaulting someone is a crime BTW. So let's be a little bit honest with things here.

what the hell is wrong with people....they act like it was treyvon who picked george out of a crowd and decided to follow him and not the other way around...its baffles my sensabilities that people are so blind

In my life I have never held someone on the ground and pounded their face in. It baffles my sensabilities that people don't have a problem with that. Last I checked, there is nothing illegal about following someone.

Have you ever had someone pull a gun on you?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

I am not sure following is even an element in the stand your ground claim, but regardless it all depends on the time frame you consider. Trevon had plenty of time to escape, but it appears he stopped and waited for Zimmerman and then approached and confronted him. Physically assaulting someone is a crime BTW. So let's be a little bit honest with things here.

what the hell is wrong with people....they act like it was treyvon who picked george out of a crowd and decided to follow him and not the other way around...its baffles my sensabilities that people are so blind

In my life I have never held someone on the ground and pounded their face in. It baffles my sensabilities that people don't have a problem with that. Last I checked, there is nothing illegal about following someone.

Have you ever had someone pull a gun on you?

good point although you don't understand you've made one..

If Zimmerman had pulled the gun first, there's no way Trayvon would have attacked him. I've had a gun pulled on me, more than once, and I've seen others have guns pulled on them. If someone pulls a gun on you, the last thing you want is to make it into a bigger confrontation. Usually it's anything you can do at that point to end the confrontation, whether it's giving up your wallet, running, pleading, throwing your hands up and saying "I don't want any trouble"..

 

[pantherclub]

/ lol at that whole post

Mr General Contractor recreation sport coaching extraordinaire living the thug life in Lake Norman.

 

[greenroom]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

I am not sure following is even an element in the stand your ground claim, but regardless it all depends on the time frame you consider. Trevon had plenty of time to escape, but it appears he stopped and waited for Zimmerman and then approached and confronted him. Physically assaulting someone is a crime BTW. So let's be a little bit honest with things here.

what the hell is wrong with people....they act like it was treyvon who picked george out of a crowd and decided to follow him and not the other way around...its baffles my sensabilities that people are so blind

In my life I have never held someone on the ground and pounded their face in. It baffles my sensabilities that people don't have a problem with that. Last I checked, there is nothing illegal about following someone.

Actually stalking is against the law in most states.

 

[Witz]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

I am not sure following is even an element in the stand your ground claim, but regardless it all depends on the time frame you consider. Trevon had plenty of time to escape, but it appears he stopped and waited for Zimmerman and then approached and confronted him. Physically assaulting someone is a crime BTW. So let's be a little bit honest with things here.

what the hell is wrong with people....they act like it was treyvon who picked george out of a crowd and decided to follow him and not the other way around...its baffles my sensabilities that people are so blind

In my life I have never held someone on the ground and pounded their face in. It baffles my sensabilities that people don't have a problem with that. Last I checked, there is nothing illegal about following someone.

Actually stalking is against the law in most states.

So is jaywalking but neither occurred in this case so not sure how that is relevant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking

Definitions [SIZE=small][edit][/SIZE]The difficulties associated with precisely defining this term (or defining it at all) are well documented.[2]

Having been used since at least the 16th century to refer to a prowler or a poacher (Oxford English Dictionary), the term stalker started to be used by the media in the 20th century to describe people who pester and harass others, initially with specific reference to the harassment of celebrities by strangers who were described as being "obsessed".[3] This use of the word appears to have been coined by the tabloid press in the United States.[4] Pathé and Mullen describe stalking as "a constellation of behaviours in which an individual inflicts upon another repeated unwanted intrusions and communications".[5]Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching and/or harassing of another person. Unlike other crimes, which usually involve one act, stalking is a series of actions that occur over a period of time.

Although stalking is illegal in most areas of the world, some of the actions that can contribute to stalking can be legal, such as gathering information, calling someone on the phone, sending gifts, emailing or instant messaging. They become illegal when they breach the legal definition of harassment e.g. an action such as sending a text is not usually illegal, but is illegal when frequently repeated to an unwilling recipient. In fact, United Kingdom law states the incident only has to happen twice when the stalker should be aware their behavior is unacceptable e.g. two phone calls to a stranger, two gifts following the victim then phoning them etc.[6]

The Violence Against Women Act of 2005, amending a United States statute, 108 Stat. 1902 et seq, defined stalking as "engaging in a course of conduct directed at a specific person that would cause a reasonable person to—

• (A) fear for his or her safety or the safety of others;
• (B) suffer substantial emotional distress."[7

 

[Carolina Hustler]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

I am not sure following is even an element in the stand your ground claim, but regardless it all depends on the time frame you consider. Trevon had plenty of time to escape, but it appears he stopped and waited for Zimmerman and then approached and confronted him. Physically assaulting someone is a crime BTW. So let's be a little bit honest with things here.

what the hell is wrong with people....they act like it was treyvon who picked george out of a crowd and decided to follow him and not the other way around...its baffles my sensabilities that people are so blind

In my life I have never held someone on the ground and pounded their face in. It baffles my sensabilities that people don't have a problem with that. Last I checked, there is nothing illegal about following someone.

Actually stalking is against the law in most states.

this doesn't fit the definition

 

[Carolina Hustler]

/ lol at that whole post Mr General Contractor recreation sport coaching extraordinaire living the thug life in Lake Norman.

I live in lake Norman? Actually, I'm from Buffalo NY area, I live in NC now.. I never said I lived in Lake Norman, I've never lived on the north side of Charlotte. And only an idiot would imply that the average American would attack someone who pulled a gun on them.. My work, the area I currently live in, and the time I spend in kids sports has nothing to do with the topic... Lives change, and guns aren't specific to a demographic. You care to make an argument otherwise?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

I am not sure following is even an element in the stand your ground claim, but regardless it all depends on the time frame you consider. Trevon had plenty of time to escape, but it appears he stopped and waited for Zimmerman and then approached and confronted him. Physically assaulting someone is a crime BTW. So let's be a little bit honest with things here.

what the hell is wrong with people....they act like it was treyvon who picked george out of a crowd and decided to follow him and not the other way around...its baffles my sensabilities that people are so blind

In my life I have never held someone on the ground and pounded their face in. It baffles my sensabilities that people don't have a problem with that. Last I checked, there is nothing illegal about following someone.

Actually stalking is against the law in most states.

So is jaywalking but neither occurred in this case so not sure how that is relevant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking

Definitions [SIZE=small][edit][/SIZE]The difficulties associated with precisely defining this term (or defining it at all) are well documented.[2]

Having been used since at least the 16th century to refer to a prowler or a poacher (Oxford English Dictionary), the term stalker started to be used by the media in the 20th century to describe people who pester and harass others, initially with specific reference to the harassment of celebrities by strangers who were described as being "obsessed".[3] This use of the word appears to have been coined by the tabloid press in the United States.[4] Pathé and Mullen describe stalking as "a constellation of behaviours in which an individual inflicts upon another repeated unwanted intrusions and communications".[5]Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching and/or harassing of another person. Unlike other crimes, which usually involve one act, stalking is a series of actions that occur over a period of time.

Although stalking is illegal in most areas of the world, some of the actions that can contribute to stalking can be legal, such as gathering information, calling someone on the phone, sending gifts, emailing or instant messaging. They become illegal when they breach the legal definition of harassment e.g. an action such as sending a text is not usually illegal, but is illegal when frequently repeated to an unwilling recipient. In fact, United Kingdom law states the incident only has to happen twice when the stalker should be aware their behavior is unacceptable e.g. two phone calls to a stranger, two gifts following the victim then phoning them etc.[6]

The Violence Against Women Act of 2005, amending a United States statute, 108 Stat. 1902 et seq, defined stalking as "engaging in a course of conduct directed at a specific person that would cause a reasonable person to—

• (A) fear for his or her safety or the safety of others;
• (B) suffer substantial emotional distress."[7

actually he was running after trey,chasing him while saying to the 911 dispatch that these punks always get away ...call it what you will

 

[Witz]

Yeap - that's exactly what happened. Please don't let actual facts get in your way of telling your story though.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Yeap - that's exactly what happened. Please don't let actual facts get in your way of telling your story though.

ummm....its recorded...just sayin

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

I am not sure following is even an element in the stand your ground claim, but regardless it all depends on the time frame you consider. Trevon had plenty of time to escape, but it appears he stopped and waited for Zimmerman and then approached and confronted him. Physically assaulting someone is a crime BTW. So let's be a little bit honest with things here.

what the hell is wrong with people....they act like it was treyvon who picked george out of a crowd and decided to follow him and not the other way around...its baffles my sensabilities that people are so blind

In my life I have never held someone on the ground and pounded their face in. It baffles my sensabilities that people don't have a problem with that. Last I checked, there is nothing illegal about following someone.

Actually stalking is against the law in most states.

So is jaywalking but neither occurred in this case so not sure how that is relevant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking

Definitions [SIZE=small][edit][/SIZE]The difficulties associated with precisely defining this term (or defining it at all) are well documented.[2]

Having been used since at least the 16th century to refer to a prowler or a poacher (Oxford English Dictionary), the term stalker started to be used by the media in the 20th century to describe people who pester and harass others, initially with specific reference to the harassment of celebrities by strangers who were described as being "obsessed".[3] This use of the word appears to have been coined by the tabloid press in the United States.[4] Pathé and Mullen describe stalking as "a constellation of behaviours in which an individual inflicts upon another repeated unwanted intrusions and communications".[5]Stalking can be defined as the willful and repeated following, watching and/or harassing of another person. Unlike other crimes, which usually involve one act, stalking is a series of actions that occur over a period of time.

Although stalking is illegal in most areas of the world, some of the actions that can contribute to stalking can be legal, such as gathering information, calling someone on the phone, sending gifts, emailing or instant messaging. They become illegal when they breach the legal definition of harassment e.g. an action such as sending a text is not usually illegal, but is illegal when frequently repeated to an unwilling recipient. In fact, United Kingdom law states the incident only has to happen twice when the stalker should be aware their behavior is unacceptable e.g. two phone calls to a stranger, two gifts following the victim then phoning them etc.[6]

The Violence Against Women Act of 2005, amending a United States statute, 108 Stat. 1902 et seq, defined stalking as "engaging in a course of conduct directed at a specific person that would cause a reasonable person to—

• (A) fear for his or her safety or the safety of others;
• (B) suffer substantial emotional distress."[7

actually he was running after trey,chasing him while saying to the 911 dispatch that these punks always get away ...call it what you will

You have evidence that he was running after/chasing him, rather than following to keep an eye on his location?

You have evidence that Trayvon didn't turn back and attack, or wait and ambush Zimmerman?

 

[Team Legacy]

Zimmerman wasn't chasing him, he was following him in his car, lost sight of him, got out, couldn't findhim, and was walking back to his car when Trayvon approached him, struck him in the face, mounted him, pummeled him, bashed his head, broke his nose and threatened his life. That is when Zim pulled his piece and shot him. That's the only version we've heard so far and the wounds to Zim, along with the nature of the gun shot wound, appear to support this.

Trayvons aggressive fighting conduct in school(suspensions) along with his drug use has been ruled just now, in-admissable to the jury in opening statements and other wise.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Yeap - that's exactly what happened. Please don't let actual facts get in your way of telling your story though.

ummm....its recorded...just sayin

They have an audio recording of Zimmerman "running" "chasing"?

 

[kentric]

It's a good thing evidence wins murder trials and not opinions.

Yes, it is. at "drug dealer".

Bump

Yeah, teenagers never say stupid things to their friends in texts. Irrelevant. Zimmerman still a murderer.

Treyvon was the one who was standing his ground as he was the one who was being followed. People talking about Treys text messages and his past seem to forget its Zimmy who was arrested for assaulting an officer and had domestic issues . Zimmy was the aggressor,trey was the one minding his own business. Zimmy was playing cops and robbers while armed with a gun. The dfense even admitts that trey was fleeing and then hiding. We dont know who confronted who first but f zimmy wasnt so concerned about the ''punks always getting away'' then this shooting would have never happened . Treys only crime up to and before the shooting was being in the right place at the wrong time.

I am not sure following is even an element in the stand your ground claim, but regardless it all depends on the time frame you consider. Trevon had plenty of time to escape, but it appears he stopped and waited for Zimmerman and then approached and confronted him. Physically assaulting someone is a crime BTW. So let's be a little bit honest with things here.

Plus possession of marijuana, intent to sell marijuana, possession of an unlicensed firearm but than again, it doesn't fit into the narrative BK likes to spin, so it's irrelevant to his story.

wow...just ...wow

So your preference is to only bring up anything scandalous from Zimmerman's past but Martin's is off limits? Got it.

Is it also off limits to talk about the released information that indicates that Martin was in a number of heated arguments with this girlfriend on the day in question which could speak to his state of mind on the day in question (the same girlfriend that he was on the phone with who has changed her story a couple of times already on what she heard and has also already lied to the authorities)?

It was a horrible tragedy that Martin lost his life, but to continue to act as if he may not have contributed to the situation is naive at best, despite additional information available that seems to indicate it.

While I agree that the girlfriend's testimony is suspect, hasn't Zimmerman also altered his story somewhat and effectively lied (by not contradicting his wife's statement) about his financial position?

 

[kentric]

Zimmerman wasn't chasing him, he was following him in his car, lost sight of him, got out, couldn't findhim, and was walking back to his car when Trayvon approached him, struck him in the face, mounted him, pummeled him, bashed his head, broke his nose and threatened his life. That is when Zim pulled his piece and shot him. That's the only version we've heard so far and the wounds to Zim, along with the nature of the gun shot wound, appear to support this.Trayvons aggressive fighting conduct in school(suspensions) along with his drug use has been ruled just now, in-admissable to the jury in opening statements and other wise.

Zimmerman can be heard running. We can only assume it was to see what Trayvon was doing. And what do you mean by mounted him? I hadn't heard anything about a sexual assault.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Zimmerman wasn't chasing him, he was following him in his car, lost sight of him, got out, couldn't findhim, and was walking back to his car when Trayvon approached him, struck him in the face, mounted him, pummeled him, bashed his head, broke his nose and threatened his life. That is when Zim pulled his piece and shot him. That's the only version we've heard so far and the wounds to Zim, along with the nature of the gun shot wound, appear to support this.Trayvons aggressive fighting conduct in school(suspensions) along with his drug use has been ruled just now, in-admissable to the jury in opening statements and other wise.

yes ...he was chasing him. He left his car and was running,you can hear him breathing hard on the phone.HIS version of what happened after that is all we have ,seeing the other witness is dead. With all due respect i find believing ANYTHING Zimmy says very difficult in light of the lies he`s already been caught in.So you believe what you want and i`ll do the same. I pray that Zimmy gets on the stand to tell his ''story'',that will be what dooms him for sure.I think the defense knows this and thats why they dropped the stand your ground angle,so he WONT have to take the stand.All this stuff about Treys phone has no bearing on this case as hes not here to defend those accusations.

 

[pittstownkiller]

/ lol at that whole post Mr General Contractor recreation sport coaching extraordinaire living the thug life in Lake Norman.

I live in lake Norman? Actually, I'm from Buffalo NY area, I live in NC now.. I never said I lived in Lake Norman, I've never lived on the north side of Charlotte. And only an idiot would imply that the average American would attack someone who pulled a gun on them.. My work, the area I currently live in, and the time I spend in kids sports has nothing to do with the topic... Lives change, and guns aren't specific to a demographic. You care to make an argument otherwise?

You should save your breath CH, of course you work and activities matter; you are an uneducated nail-pounder, who coaches other people kids because you have a know-nothing job and a questionable intellect. Ignoring that you own your own business, and deal with the service you provide from selling it to finishing it, including every step in between, and the fun of running the actual business with payroll and bookkeeping, not to mention spending the free time you carve out for yourself to be involved with your kids (and others) activities, you'll never add up to the professional hand-wringers for only they can have a learned opinion.

 

[Witz]

Yeap - that's exactly what happened. Please don't let actual facts get in your way of telling your story though.

ummm....its recorded...just sayin

umm...read the transcript - didn't happen like you implied it happened.

 

[Witz]

Yeap - that's exactly what happened. Please don't let actual facts get in your way of telling your story though.

ummm....its recorded...just sayin

umm...read the transcript - didn't happen like you implied it happened.

Just to help you out:

Dispatcher: Sanford Police Department. ...

Zimmerman: Hey, we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy, uh, [near] Retreat View Circle. Um, the best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: Okay, and this guy is he white, black, or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

Dispatcher: Did you see what he was wearing?

Zimmerman: Yeah. A dark hoodie, like a grey hoodie, and either jeans or sweatpants and white tennis shoes. He's [unintelligible], he was just staring...

Dispatcher: Okay, he's just walking around the area...

Zimmerman: ...looking at all the houses.

Dispatcher: Okay...

Zimmerman: Now he's just staring at me.

Dispatcher: Okay. You said it's 1111 Retreat View? Or 111?

Zimmerman: That's the clubhouse... [Note 3, 3rd picture]

Dispatcher: That's the clubhouse. Do you know what the—he's near the clubhouse right now?

Zimmerman: Yeah, now he's coming towards me.

Dispatcher: Okay.

Zimmerman: He's got his hand in his waistband. And he's a black male.

Dispatcher: How old would you say he looks?

Zimmerman: He's got a button on his shirt. Late teens.

Dispatcher: Late teens. Okay.

Zimmerman: Something's wrong with him. Yup, he's coming to check me out. He's got something in his hands. I don't know what his deal is.

Dispatcher: Just let me know if he does anything, okay?

Zimmerman: How long until you get an officer over here?

Dispatcher: Yeah, we've got someone on the way. Just let me know if this guy does anything else.

Zimmerman: Okay. These #######s, they always get away. When you come to the clubhouse, you come straight in and make a left. Actually, you would go past the clubhouse.[Note 3, 3rd picture]

Dispatcher: So it's on the lefthand side from the clubhouse?

Zimmerman: No, you go in straight through the entrance and then you make a left...uh, you go straight in, don't turn, and make a left. ####, he's running.

Dispatcher: He's running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman: Down towards the other entrance to the neighborhood.

Dispatcher: Which entrance is that that he's heading towards?

Zimmerman: The back entrance...####### [disputed/unintelligible]

Dispatcher: Are you following him?

Zimmerman: Yeah.

Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that.

Zimmerman: Okay.

Dispatcher: All right, sir, what is your name?

Zimmerman: George...He ran.

Dispatcher: All right, George, what's your last name?

Zimmerman: Zimmerman.

Dispatcher: And George, what's the phone number you're calling from?

Zimmerman: [redacted]

Dispatcher: All right, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?

Zimmerman:: Yeah.

Dispatcher: Alright, where you going to meet with them at?

Zimmerman: If they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the club house, and uh, straight past the club house and make a left, and then they go past the mailboxes, [Note 3, 4th picture] that's my truck...[unintelligible]

Dispatcher: What address are you parked in front of?

Zimmerman: I don't know. It's a cut through so I don't know the address.[Note 3, 6th & 7th pictures]

Dispatcher: Okay. Do you live in the area?

Zimmerman: Yeah, I...[unintelligible]

Dispatcher: What's your apartment number?

Zimmerman: It's a home. It's 1950,[Note 3, 3rd picture] Oh, crap. I don't want to give it all out. I don't know where this kid is.

Dispatcher: Okay. Do you want to just meet with them right near the mailboxes then?

Zimmerman: Yeah, that's fine.

Dispatcher: All right, George. I'll let them know to meet you around there okay?

Zimmerman: Actually, could you have them call me and I'll tell them where I'm at?

Dispatcher: Okay, yeah. That's no problem.

Zimmerman: Should I give you my number or you got it?

Dispatcher: Yeah, I got it [redacted]

Zimmerman: Yeah, you got it.

Dispatcher: Okay. No problem. I'll let them know to call you when they're in the area.

Zimmerman: Thanks.

Dispatcher: You're welcome.[99

If you really want to get technical, while Zimmerman was watching Martin, Martin started to approach Zimmerman and than Martin took off running (at least according to the 911 transcript). Just sayin but you already know this as it's been discussed over and over again in this thread.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Yeap - that's exactly what happened. Please don't let actual facts get in your way of telling your story though.

ummm....its recorded...just sayin

umm...read the transcript - didn't happen like you implied it happened.

Just to help you out:

Dispatcher: Sanford Police Department. ...

Zimmerman: Hey, we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy, uh, [near] Retreat View Circle. Um, the best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: Okay, and this guy is he white, black, or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

Dispatcher: Did you see what he was wearing?

Zimmerman: Yeah. A dark hoodie, like a grey hoodie, and either jeans or sweatpants and white tennis shoes. He's [unintelligible], he was just staring...

Dispatcher: Okay, he's just walking around the area...

Zimmerman: ...looking at all the houses.

Dispatcher: Okay...

Zimmerman: Now he's just staring at me.

Dispatcher: Okay. You said it's 1111 Retreat View? Or 111?

Zimmerman: That's the clubhouse... [Note 3, 3rd picture]

Dispatcher: That's the clubhouse. Do you know what the—he's near the clubhouse right now?

Zimmerman: Yeah, now he's coming towards me.

Dispatcher: Okay.

Zimmerman: He's got his hand in his waistband. And he's a black male.

Dispatcher: How old would you say he looks?

Zimmerman: He's got a button on his shirt. Late teens.

Dispatcher: Late teens. Okay.

Zimmerman: Something's wrong with him. Yup, he's coming to check me out. He's got something in his hands. I don't know what his deal is.

Dispatcher: Just let me know if he does anything, okay?

Zimmerman: How long until you get an officer over here?

Dispatcher: Yeah, we've got someone on the way. Just let me know if this guy does anything else.

Zimmerman: Okay. These #######s, they always get away. When you come to the clubhouse, you come straight in and make a left. Actually, you would go past the clubhouse.[Note 3, 3rd picture]

Dispatcher: So it's on the lefthand side from the clubhouse?

Zimmerman: No, you go in straight through the entrance and then you make a left...uh, you go straight in, don't turn, and make a left. ####, he's running.

Dispatcher: He's running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman: Down towards the other entrance to the neighborhood.

Dispatcher: Which entrance is that that he's heading towards?

Zimmerman: The back entrance...####### [disputed/unintelligible]

Dispatcher: Are you following him?

Zimmerman: Yeah.

Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that.

Zimmerman: Okay.

Dispatcher: All right, sir, what is your name?

Zimmerman: George...He ran.

Dispatcher: All right, George, what's your last name?

Zimmerman: Zimmerman.

Dispatcher: And George, what's the phone number you're calling from?

Zimmerman: [redacted]

Dispatcher: All right, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?

Zimmerman:: Yeah.

Dispatcher: Alright, where you going to meet with them at?

Zimmerman: If they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the club house, and uh, straight past the club house and make a left, and then they go past the mailboxes, [Note 3, 4th picture] that's my truck...[unintelligible]

Dispatcher: What address are you parked in front of?

Zimmerman: I don't know. It's a cut through so I don't know the address.[Note 3, 6th & 7th pictures]

Dispatcher: Okay. Do you live in the area?

Zimmerman: Yeah, I...[unintelligible]

Dispatcher: What's your apartment number?

Zimmerman: It's a home. It's 1950,[Note 3, 3rd picture] Oh, crap. I don't want to give it all out. I don't know where this kid is.

Dispatcher: Okay. Do you want to just meet with them right near the mailboxes then?

Zimmerman: Yeah, that's fine.

Dispatcher: All right, George. I'll let them know to meet you around there okay?

Zimmerman: Actually, could you have them call me and I'll tell them where I'm at?

Dispatcher: Okay, yeah. That's no problem.

Zimmerman: Should I give you my number or you got it?

Dispatcher: Yeah, I got it [redacted]

Zimmerman: Yeah, you got it.

Dispatcher: Okay. No problem. I'll let them know to call you when they're in the area.

Zimmerman: Thanks.

Dispatcher: You're welcome.[99

If you really want to get technical, while Zimmerman was watching Martin, Martin started to approach Zimmerman and than Martin took off running (at least according to the 911 transcript). Just sayin but you already know this as it's been discussed over and over again in this thread.

do yourself a favor and LISTEN to the phone call....transcripts dont tell the whole story

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Dispatcher: Are you following him?Zimmerman: Yeah.Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that.Zimmerman: Okay.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Dispatcher: Are you following him?Zimmerman: Yeah.Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that.Zimmerman: Okay.

too late ...he well already well into that act

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Zimmerman wasn't chasing him, he was following him in his car, lost sight of him, got out, couldn't findhim, and was walking back to his car when Trayvon approached him, struck him in the face, mounted him, pummeled him, bashed his head, broke his nose and threatened his life. That is when Zim pulled his piece and shot him. That's the only version we've heard so far and the wounds to Zim, along with the nature of the gun shot wound, appear to support this.Trayvons aggressive fighting conduct in school(suspensions) along with his drug use has been ruled just now, in-admissable to the jury in opening statements and other wise.

yes ...he was chasing him. He left his car and was running,you can hear him breathing hard on the phone.HIS version of what happened after that is all we have ,seeing the other witness is dead. With all due respect i find believing ANYTHING Zimmy says very difficult in light of the lies he`s already been caught in.So you believe what you want and i`ll do the same. I pray that Zimmy gets on the stand to tell his ''story'',that will be what dooms him for sure.I think the defense knows this and thats why they dropped the stand your ground angle,so he WONT have to take the stand.All this stuff about Treys phone has no bearing on this case as hes not here to defend those accusations.

What lies?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Dispatcher: Are you following him?Zimmerman: Yeah.Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that.Zimmerman: Okay.

too late ...he well already well into that act

following is different than chasing

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Zimmerman wasn't chasing him, he was following him in his car, lost sight of him, got out, couldn't findhim, and was walking back to his car when Trayvon approached him, struck him in the face, mounted him, pummeled him, bashed his head, broke his nose and threatened his life. That is when Zim pulled his piece and shot him. That's the only version we've heard so far and the wounds to Zim, along with the nature of the gun shot wound, appear to support this.

Trayvons aggressive fighting conduct in school(suspensions) along with his drug use has been ruled just now, in-admissable to the jury in opening statements and other wise.

yes ...he was chasing him. He left his car and was running,you can hear him breathing hard on the phone.HIS version of what happened after that is all we have ,seeing the other witness is dead. With all due respect i find believing ANYTHING Zimmy says very difficult in light of the lies he`s already been caught in.So you believe what you want and i`ll do the same. I pray that Zimmy gets on the stand to tell his ''story'',that will be what dooms him for sure.I think the defense knows this and thats why they dropped the stand your ground angle,so he WONT have to take the stand.All this stuff about Treys phone has no bearing on this case as hes not here to defend those accusations.

What lies?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Dispatcher: Are you following him?

Zimmerman: Yeah.

Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that.

Zimmerman: Okay.

too late ...he well already well into that act

following is different than chasing

round and round we go...where we stop nobody knows

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Zimmerman wasn't chasing him, he was following him in his car, lost sight of him, got out, couldn't findhim, and was walking back to his car when Trayvon approached him, struck him in the face, mounted him, pummeled him, bashed his head, broke his nose and threatened his life. That is when Zim pulled his piece and shot him. That's the only version we've heard so far and the wounds to Zim, along with the nature of the gun shot wound, appear to support this.

Trayvons aggressive fighting conduct in school(suspensions) along with his drug use has been ruled just now, in-admissable to the jury in opening statements and other wise.

yes ...he was chasing him. He left his car and was running,you can hear him breathing hard on the phone.HIS version of what happened after that is all we have ,seeing the other witness is dead. With all due respect i find believing ANYTHING Zimmy says very difficult in light of the lies he`s already been caught in.So you believe what you want and i`ll do the same. I pray that Zimmy gets on the stand to tell his ''story'',that will be what dooms him for sure.I think the defense knows this and thats why they dropped the stand your ground angle,so he WONT have to take the stand.All this stuff about Treys phone has no bearing on this case as hes not here to defend those accusations.

What lies?

his walk thru with the cops is a lie....read the transcripts and then listen to this version...i shouldnt have to point out the discrepancies.

http://youtu.be/KxmO9hXHC_o

And thats not including the lies he told the courts about money,he and his wife...rememmmmmberrrrr ???? lol

 

[Billy Bats]

So I missed about 100 pages, but I see I didnt miss a thing!

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Zimmerman wasn't chasing him, he was following him in his car, lost sight of him, got out, couldn't findhim, and was walking back to his car when Trayvon approached him, struck him in the face, mounted him, pummeled him, bashed his head, broke his nose and threatened his life. That is when Zim pulled his piece and shot him. That's the only version we've heard so far and the wounds to Zim, along with the nature of the gun shot wound, appear to support this.Trayvons aggressive fighting conduct in school(suspensions) along with his drug use has been ruled just now, in-admissable to the jury in opening statements and other wise.

yes ...he was chasing him. He left his car and was running,you can hear him breathing hard on the phone.HIS version of what happened after that is all we have,seeing the other witness is dead. With all due respect i find believing ANYTHING Zimmy says very difficult in light of the lies he`s already been caught in.So you believe what you want and i`ll do the same. I pray that Zimmy gets on the stand to tell his ''story'',that will be what dooms him for sure.I think the defense knows this and thats why they dropped the stand your ground angle,so he WONT have to take the stand.All this stuff about Treys phone has no bearing on this case as hes not here to defend those accusations.

This is false, tell me how much time elapses on the recorded call from the point where he says "okay." when his heavy breathing stops and it is evident that he stopped pursuing to the point where he hangs up. How much distance did Martin have to close to get home. How long does it take a normal teenager to jog that distance? How long does it take a normal person to walk that distance?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Zimmerman wasn't chasing him, he was following him in his car, lost sight of him, got out, couldn't findhim, and was walking back to his car when Trayvon approached him, struck him in the face, mounted him, pummeled him, bashed his head, broke his nose and threatened his life. That is when Zim pulled his piece and shot him. That's the only version we've heard so far and the wounds to Zim, along with the nature of the gun shot wound, appear to support this.Trayvons aggressive fighting conduct in school(suspensions) along with his drug use has been ruled just now, in-admissable to the jury in opening statements and other wise.

yes ...he was chasing him. He left his car and was running,you can hear him breathing hard on the phone.HIS version of what happened after that is all we have,seeing the other witness is dead. With all due respect i find believing ANYTHING Zimmy says very difficult in light of the lies he`s already been caught in.So you believe what you want and i`ll do the same. I pray that Zimmy gets on the stand to tell his ''story'',that will be what dooms him for sure.I think the defense knows this and thats why they dropped the stand your ground angle,so he WONT have to take the stand.All this stuff about Treys phone has no bearing on this case as hes not here to defend those accusations.

This is false, tell me how much time elapses on the recorded call from the point where he says "okay." when his heavy breathing stops and it is evident that he stopped pursuing to the point where he hangs up. How much distance did Martin have to close to get home. How long does it take a normal teenager to jog that distance? How long does it take a normal person to walk that distance?

not evident to me...he sounds distracted after the dispatch says dont do that...ya he says ok but he clearly sounds like hes still looking around...and the fact that he tells the dispatch to have the cops call him when they get there says he wont be at the truck like he agreed ...i guess its true ,we see and hear what we want to.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Zimmerman wasn't chasing him, he was following him in his car, lost sight of him, got out, couldn't findhim, and was walking back to his car when Trayvon approached him, struck him in the face, mounted him, pummeled him, bashed his head, broke his nose and threatened his life. That is when Zim pulled his piece and shot him. That's the only version we've heard so far and the wounds to Zim, along with the nature of the gun shot wound, appear to support this.

Trayvons aggressive fighting conduct in school(suspensions) along with his drug use has been ruled just now, in-admissable to the jury in opening statements and other wise.

yes ...he was chasing him. He left his car and was running,you can hear him breathing hard on the phone.HIS version of what happened after that is all we have,seeing the other witness is dead. With all due respect i find believing ANYTHING Zimmy says very difficult in light of the lies he`s already been caught in.So you believe what you want and i`ll do the same. I pray that Zimmy gets on the stand to tell his ''story'',that will be what dooms him for sure.I think the defense knows this and thats why they dropped the stand your ground angle,so he WONT have to take the stand.All this stuff about Treys phone has no bearing on this case as hes not here to defend those accusations.

This is false, tell me how much time elapses on the recorded call from the point where he says "okay." when his heavy breathing stops and it is evident that he stopped pursuing to the point where he hangs up. How much distance did Martin have to close to get home. How long does it take a normal teenager to jog that distance? How long does it take a normal person to walk that distance?

not evident to me...he sounds distracted after the dispatch says dont do that...ya he says ok but he clearly sounds like hes still looking around...and the fact that he tells the dispatch to have the cops call him when they get there says he wont be at the truck like he agreed ...i guess its true ,we see and hear what we want to.

I didn't think you would do the math:

A very calm and collected Zimmerman then proceeds to give the dispatcher his own information, directions and a description of his location for another 1 minute and 33 seconds.

1min 33sec = 93 secondsnormal person walks 3.1 miles/hour or 5456 yards/hour or 90.9 yards/min or 1.516 yards/sec

The distance between where Martin was last spotted and Brandy Green's Townhouse was 70 yards

The distance a normal person could walk in 1 min 33 seconds is 141 yards, or twice the distance Martin needed to cover to walk home, all while Zimmerman was still on the phone.

...and that's walking, if he was running away from Zimmerman he would have been home in less than 30 seconds.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Zimmerman wasn't chasing him, he was following him in his car, lost sight of him, got out, couldn't findhim, and was walking back to his car when Trayvon approached him, struck him in the face, mounted him, pummeled him, bashed his head, broke his nose and threatened his life. That is when Zim pulled his piece and shot him. That's the only version we've heard so far and the wounds to Zim, along with the nature of the gun shot wound, appear to support this.

Trayvons aggressive fighting conduct in school(suspensions) along with his drug use has been ruled just now, in-admissable to the jury in opening statements and other wise.

yes ...he was chasing him. He left his car and was running,you can hear him breathing hard on the phone.HIS version of what happened after that is all we have,seeing the other witness is dead. With all due respect i find believing ANYTHING Zimmy says very difficult in light of the lies he`s already been caught in.So you believe what you want and i`ll do the same. I pray that Zimmy gets on the stand to tell his ''story'',that will be what dooms him for sure.I think the defense knows this and thats why they dropped the stand your ground angle,so he WONT have to take the stand.All this stuff about Treys phone has no bearing on this case as hes not here to defend those accusations.

This is false, tell me how much time elapses on the recorded call from the point where he says "okay." when his heavy breathing stops and it is evident that he stopped pursuing to the point where he hangs up. How much distance did Martin have to close to get home. How long does it take a normal teenager to jog that distance? How long does it take a normal person to walk that distance?

not evident to me...he sounds distracted after the dispatch says dont do that...ya he says ok but he clearly sounds like hes still looking around...and the fact that he tells the dispatch to have the cops call him when they get there says he wont be at the truck like he agreed ...i guess its true ,we see and hear what we want to.

I didn't think you would do the math:

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A very calm and collected Zimmerman then proceeds to give the dispatcher his own information, directions and a description of his location for another 1 minute and 33 seconds.

1min 33sec = 93 secondsnormal person walks 3.1 miles/hour or 5456 yards/hour or 90.9 yards/min or 1.516 yards/sec

The distance between where Martin was last spotted and Brandy Green's Townhouse was 70 yards

The distance a normal person could walk in 1 min 33 seconds is 141 yards, or twice the distance Martin needed to cover to walk home, all while Zimmerman was still on the phone.

...and that's walking, if he was running away from Zimmerman he would have been home in less than 30 seconds.

thats it...you solved the case!!!!!

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Zimmerman wasn't chasing him, he was following him in his car, lost sight of him, got out, couldn't findhim, and was walking back to his car when Trayvon approached him, struck him in the face, mounted him, pummeled him, bashed his head, broke his nose and threatened his life. That is when Zim pulled his piece and shot him. That's the only version we've heard so far and the wounds to Zim, along with the nature of the gun shot wound, appear to support this.

Trayvons aggressive fighting conduct in school(suspensions) along with his drug use has been ruled just now, in-admissable to the jury in opening statements and other wise.

yes ...he was chasing him. He left his car and was running,you can hear him breathing hard on the phone.HIS version of what happened after that is all we have,seeing the other witness is dead. With all due respect i find believing ANYTHING Zimmy says very difficult in light of the lies he`s already been caught in.So you believe what you want and i`ll do the same. I pray that Zimmy gets on the stand to tell his ''story'',that will be what dooms him for sure.I think the defense knows this and thats why they dropped the stand your ground angle,so he WONT have to take the stand.All this stuff about Treys phone has no bearing on this case as hes not here to defend those accusations.

This is false, tell me how much time elapses on the recorded call from the point where he says "okay." when his heavy breathing stops and it is evident that he stopped pursuing to the point where he hangs up. How much distance did Martin have to close to get home. How long does it take a normal teenager to jog that distance? How long does it take a normal person to walk that distance?

not evident to me...he sounds distracted after the dispatch says dont do that...ya he says ok but he clearly sounds like hes still looking around...and the fact that he tells the dispatch to have the cops call him when they get there says he wont be at the truck like he agreed ...i guess its true ,we see and hear what we want to.

I didn't think you would do the math:

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A very calm and collected Zimmerman then proceeds to give the dispatcher his own information, directions and a description of his location for another 1 minute and 33 seconds.

1min 33sec = 93 secondsnormal person walks 3.1 miles/hour or 5456 yards/hour or 90.9 yards/min or 1.516 yards/sec

The distance between where Martin was last spotted and Brandy Green's Townhouse was 70 yards

The distance a normal person could walk in 1 min 33 seconds is 141 yards, or twice the distance Martin needed to cover to walk home, all while Zimmerman was still on the phone.

...and that's walking, if he was running away from Zimmerman he would have been home in less than 30 seconds.

thats it...you solved the case!!!!!

There is no case, this is a joke, you have shown no "case" to contradict this.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

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