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The other thing I've been doing is more of stuff from the Good Energy people which is a focus on avoiding sugar and anything hyper processed. Basically, I try to avoid anything that won't spoil. Or that's in a wrapper.

I've been using an Oura fitness tracker for about a year to monitor sleep quality and such and it's been helpful. I still drink beer and sometimes cocktails but the Oura showed me my sleep and heartrate are massively impacted if I have alcohol more than 2 hours before bed. Interesting stuff.

My resting heart right over night will be in the 50-52 range.
I’m bad at making food choices in the moment, thus I’ve suggested to my wife that we avoid buying food that is hyper-processed. Unfortunately, this is too nebulous for her (or she just doesn’t like the idea), so we continue to have unhealthy, ultra-processed food in the house.

The only thing I can do that works for me is to use the MyFitnessPal app to track calories AND spend more time out for walks, keeping busy with hobbies, etc. The worst combo for me is 1) watching tv, 2) overtired, 3) dehydrated. Sometimes the best thing for me is to simply drink a large glass of water. Other times, I just need to go to bed early…..
My shortcut is roughly "Does this have added sugar?" If it does, the next question is "do I reeaaaallllly want it and it's less than 5% DV?"

Two no's is a no buy
No yes I consider buying

There's more to it than that but Im a big fan of the 80/20 rule for my life.
It’s a great rule. If I lived alone, it would be easy to execute…….
 
The other thing I've been doing is more of stuff from the Good Energy people which is a focus on avoiding sugar and anything hyper processed. Basically, I try to avoid anything that won't spoil. Or that's in a wrapper.

I've been using an Oura fitness tracker for about a year to monitor sleep quality and such and it's been helpful. I still drink beer and sometimes cocktails but the Oura showed me my sleep and heartrate are massively impacted if I have alcohol more than 2 hours before bed. Interesting stuff.

My resting heart right over night will be in the 50-52 range.
I’m bad at making food choices in the moment, thus I’ve suggested to my wife that we avoid buying food that is hyper-processed. Unfortunately, this is too nebulous for her (or she just doesn’t like the idea), so we continue to have unhealthy, ultra-processed food in the house.

The only thing I can do that works for me is to use the MyFitnessPal app to track calories AND spend more time out for walks, keeping busy with hobbies, etc. The worst combo for me is 1) watching tv, 2) overtired, 3) dehydrated. Sometimes the best thing for me is to simply drink a large glass of water. Other times, I just need to go to bed early…..
My shortcut is roughly "Does this have added sugar?" If it does, the next question is "do I reeaaaallllly want it and it's less than 5% DV?"

Two no's is a no buy
No yes I consider buying

There's more to it than that but Im a big fan of the 80/20 rule for my life.
It’s a great rule. If I lived alone, it would be easy to execute…….

Is it just you and your wife? Is it possible for you to do your food and she does her food?
 
The other thing I've been doing is more of stuff from the Good Energy people which is a focus on avoiding sugar and anything hyper processed. Basically, I try to avoid anything that won't spoil. Or that's in a wrapper.

I've been using an Oura fitness tracker for about a year to monitor sleep quality and such and it's been helpful. I still drink beer and sometimes cocktails but the Oura showed me my sleep and heartrate are massively impacted if I have alcohol more than 2 hours before bed. Interesting stuff.

My resting heart right over night will be in the 50-52 range.
I’m bad at making food choices in the moment, thus I’ve suggested to my wife that we avoid buying food that is hyper-processed. Unfortunately, this is too nebulous for her (or she just doesn’t like the idea), so we continue to have unhealthy, ultra-processed food in the house.

The only thing I can do that works for me is to use the MyFitnessPal app to track calories AND spend more time out for walks, keeping busy with hobbies, etc. The worst combo for me is 1) watching tv, 2) overtired, 3) dehydrated. Sometimes the best thing for me is to simply drink a large glass of water. Other times, I just need to go to bed early…..
My shortcut is roughly "Does this have added sugar?" If it does, the next question is "do I reeaaaallllly want it and it's less than 5% DV?"

Two no's is a no buy
No yes I consider buying

There's more to it than that but Im a big fan of the 80/20 rule for my life.
It’s a great rule. If I lived alone, it would be easy to execute…….

Is it just you and your wife? Is it possible for you to do your food and she does her food?
In 18 months when kids are out of the house, yeah…. :)
 
December bump…

Goal achieved!

Started in late March at 242.2 with a goal of losing 52lbs by my 52nd birthday. Birthday is this Friday, and I weighed in this morning at 189.8. Down a total of 52.4 lbs, with 2 days to spare. I don’t know exactly the last time I was under 190, but it had to have been sometime in the mid-90’s. I very specifically remember a conversation I had with a coworker around 2003 or 2004 and I was 225lbs at that time. Lowest I’ve been since then was 203, and that lasted for about a day.
As I said, my bday is Friday, and we’re boarding a 7-day cruise. I’m going to enjoy myself, but then basically return to my eating habits of the past 9 months. I’ll be more open to the occasional treat that someone brings in to work, but the overall low carb/high protein/low fat diet that my wife and I both enjoy won’t change moving forward.
I’m also going to do a body scan at the gym tomorrow. I’m very curious about my body fat percentage now. Last time I checked was I think around July, and I was around 28%, iirc.
 
Between a bump in my medication, and continued eating discipline (walking routine has tailed off as winter sets in) I'm closing in on down 100 lbs, currently 92.7. Just got labs done and aside from now needing salt (avoided it due to HBP) all looks good. 4.3 A1C, down from 9+ from a little over 2 years ago. Pretty pumped about that one.

Man I'd love to get to 100 before Christmas, or possibly my birthday (12/22).

I had a little too much liquid encouragement at a holiday party and my friend (or so I thought) roped me into a dead lift bet. 1 year to prep. Guess I'll be looking into a gym membership for 2025. Doubt I'll beat him, but if my addictive personality kicks in and I get hooked...
 
Eureka! 178.8. Down roughly 40 pounds. I never set a specific end goal, but hitting the 45 pound mark is kind of a big deal, because I will be reminded of where I started every time I pick up a 45 pound plate in the gym.

More importantly, I trimmed another inch from my waist. I can fit comfortably in old 34" waist jeans. I should probably toss the pleats, right?

Up next is getting an accurate body fat composition measurement. Anyone have thoughts on accuracy and technique regarding this? My gym used to provide this with some calipers, and hopefully they still do. I'm guessing 12-14% is where I'm currently at.
 
Eureka! 178.8. Down roughly 40 pounds. I never set a specific end goal, but hitting the 45 pound mark is kind of a big deal, because I will be reminded of where I started every time I pick up a 45 pound plate in the gym.

More importantly, I trimmed another inch from my waist. I can fit comfortably in old 34" waist jeans. I should probably toss the pleats, right?

Up next is getting an accurate body fat composition measurement. Anyone have thoughts on accuracy and technique regarding this? My gym used to provide this with some calipers, and hopefully they still do. I'm guessing 12-14% is where I'm currently at.

a DEXA scan is supposedly the most accurate and might be paid for by your insurance. Calipers aren't that accurate as they don't look at your entire body composition, bone density, etc and just a few choice parts where they grab.
 
Fire up 2025. Blood work came back not terrible but high on a couple things.

I know I tried half heartily before but I'm 100% dedicated Jan2. I won't go crazy the next couple weeks but am going to enjoy the gatherings
 
Fire up 2025. Blood work came back not terrible but high on a couple things.

I know I tried half heartily before but I'm 100% dedicated Jan2. I won't go crazy the next couple weeks but am going to enjoy the gatherings
You and me both. I posted a little while back about having a heavier dose of depression this year (usually have the seasonal affected disorder) but man I absolutely cratered weight wise. Well cratered is not the right word as that implies it went low. New all time high. Was planning on starting Jan 1 as well, but when I saw 234 on the scale I had been avoiding for months, I had to start a few weeks ago. Down 11 pounds now but I need to be about 190. Back on my tried and true method of Chicpotle :)

I don't like having yo-yo weight but it is what it is. I'll reach my goal then try to make it last. Kept the weight off for well over a year from the inception of the thread, but just continued to eat even when I told myself not to during these past 6 months or so.

Good luck to all!
 
Fire up 2025. Blood work came back not terrible but high on a couple things.

I know I tried half heartily before but I'm 100% dedicated Jan2. I won't go crazy the next couple weeks but am going to enjoy the gatherings
You and me both. I posted a little while back about having a heavier dose of depression this year (usually have the seasonal affected disorder) but man I absolutely cratered weight wise. Well cratered is not the right word as that implies it went low. New all time high. Was planning on starting Jan 1 as well, but when I saw 234 on the scale I had been avoiding for months, I had to start a few weeks ago. Down 11 pounds now but I need to be about 190. Back on my tried and true method of Chicpotle :)

I don't like having yo-yo weight but it is what it is. I'll reach my goal then try to make it last. Kept the weight off for well over a year from the inception of the thread, but just continued to eat even when I told myself not to during these past 6 months or so.

Good luck to all!
Not my highest but I'm just disgusted. My golf game is suffering 😂

I was 228 this morning and 178 would be my ultimate goal but 190 ish is fine

Now that therapy on my back has been going well I can do stuff.

What is your chipotle diet if you don't mind me asking
 
Fire up 2025. Blood work came back not terrible but high on a couple things.

I know I tried half heartily before but I'm 100% dedicated Jan2. I won't go crazy the next couple weeks but am going to enjoy the gatherings
You and me both. I posted a little while back about having a heavier dose of depression this year (usually have the seasonal affected disorder) but man I absolutely cratered weight wise. Well cratered is not the right word as that implies it went low. New all time high. Was planning on starting Jan 1 as well, but when I saw 234 on the scale I had been avoiding for months, I had to start a few weeks ago. Down 11 pounds now but I need to be about 190. Back on my tried and true method of Chicpotle :)

I don't like having yo-yo weight but it is what it is. I'll reach my goal then try to make it last. Kept the weight off for well over a year from the inception of the thread, but just continued to eat even when I told myself not to during these past 6 months or so.

Good luck to all!
Not my highest but I'm just disgusted. My golf game is suffering 😂

I was 228 this morning and 178 would be my ultimate goal but 190 ish is fine

Now that therapy on my back has been going well I can do stuff.

What is your chipotle diet if you don't mind me asking
So I'm pretty bad at counting calories and getting my macros in order, so I stick to pretty much the same thing every single day. I start the day with a core power 26g chocolate shake. At lunch, I have a chipotle barbacoa bowl that is going to be around 700 calories. I know this varies by who makes it, sometimes it is heavy and sometimes it is light but I can count on 700 - 900 calories. I get white rice and pinto beans, cheese, corn, fajitas. Nothing else on it, though if you like salad you could easily add more lettuce for very few calories.

Dinner is a simple chicken breast, hence the Chic-potle name. It has been referred to here lovingly as "chicken mash" :) I also take a multivitamin and fiber supplement to balance the macros. It works for me because I don't have to wonder what I'm going to eat and then I don't get tempted to get something else. I allow myself a cheat day once every 10 days or so.
 
im in lets do this my back is letting me walk again and i did 3 and a half miles yesterday and i will do that again this afternoon after some bball games lets effen gooooooooo take that to the bank bromigos

Time to empty out your pantry and take all those Oreos to the food bank brochaco.
 
Between a bump in my medication, and continued eating discipline (walking routine has tailed off as winter sets in) I'm closing in on down 100 lbs, currently 92.7. Just got labs done and aside from now needing salt (avoided it due to HBP) all looks good. 4.3 A1C, down from 9+ from a little over 2 years ago. Pretty pumped about that one.

Man I'd love to get to 100 before Christmas, or possibly my birthday (12/22).

I had a little too much liquid encouragement at a holiday party and my friend (or so I thought) roped me into a dead lift bet. 1 year to prep. Guess I'll be looking into a gym membership for 2025. Doubt I'll beat him, but if my addictive personality kicks in and I get hooked...
Congrats on the A1C and the whole program for their matter.
 
In for the duration for 2025. Main motivation is still pre diabetic with A1C at 5.8-5.9. Have to get that down. Very motivated as feel like I’m getting a 3rd chance (Widowmaker 5 years ago, just went through invasive melanoma nightmare with 3 procedures on my face but clear margins and lymph node biopsy just came back negative). Time to take charge and get in great shape.
 
In for the duration for 2025. Main motivation is still pre diabetic with A1C at 5.8-5.9. Have to get that down. Very motivated as feel like I’m getting a 3rd chance (Widowmaker 5 years ago, just went through invasive melanoma nightmare with 3 procedures on my face but clear margins and lymph node biopsy just came back negative). Time to take charge and get in great shape.
lets effen goooooooooo take that to the bank brohans
 
December bump…

Goal achieved!

Started in late March at 242.2 with a goal of losing 52lbs by my 52nd birthday. Birthday is this Friday, and I weighed in this morning at 189.8. Down a total of 52.4 lbs, with 2 days to spare. I don’t know exactly the last time I was under 190, but it had to have been sometime in the mid-90’s. I very specifically remember a conversation I had with a coworker around 2003 or 2004 and I was 225lbs at that time. Lowest I’ve been since then was 203, and that lasted for about a day.
As I said, my bday is Friday, and we’re boarding a 7-day cruise. I’m going to enjoy myself, but then basically return to my eating habits of the past 9 months. I’ll be more open to the occasional treat that someone brings in to work, but the overall low carb/high protein/low fat diet that my wife and I both enjoy won’t change moving forward.
I’m also going to do a body scan at the gym tomorrow. I’m very curious about my body fat percentage now. Last time I checked was I think around July, and I was around 28%, iirc.
Holy crap, this is awesome. Amazing job, and very inspirational.
 
Eureka! 178.8. Down roughly 40 pounds. I never set a specific end goal, but hitting the 45 pound mark is kind of a big deal, because I will be reminded of where I started every time I pick up a 45 pound plate in the gym.

More importantly, I trimmed another inch from my waist. I can fit comfortably in old 34" waist jeans. I should probably toss the pleats, right?

Up next is getting an accurate body fat composition measurement. Anyone have thoughts on accuracy and technique regarding this? My gym used to provide this with some calipers, and hopefully they still do. I'm guessing 12-14% is where I'm currently at.
I have always like Bod Pods. Check your local university and you might be able to get it done cheap/free.
 
Title updated. I hit an embarrassing 234 pounds in early December. Got down to 222 on December 23rd but after Christmas Eve and Day, back to 224. Not sweating it as I counted those as cheat days. I'll probably start my daily graphing on January 1. Will be looking to hit 190-195 range.
 
December bump…

Goal achieved!

Started in late March at 242.2 with a goal of losing 52lbs by my 52nd birthday. Birthday is this Friday, and I weighed in this morning at 189.8. Down a total of 52.4 lbs, with 2 days to spare. I don’t know exactly the last time I was under 190, but it had to have been sometime in the mid-90’s. I very specifically remember a conversation I had with a coworker around 2003 or 2004 and I was 225lbs at that time. Lowest I’ve been since then was 203, and that lasted for about a day.
As I said, my bday is Friday, and we’re boarding a 7-day cruise. I’m going to enjoy myself, but then basically return to my eating habits of the past 9 months. I’ll be more open to the occasional treat that someone brings in to work, but the overall low carb/high protein/low fat diet that my wife and I both enjoy won’t change moving forward.
I’m also going to do a body scan at the gym tomorrow. I’m very curious about my body fat percentage now. Last time I checked was I think around July, and I was around 28%, iirc.
Congrats! That's awesome!
 
Starting up tomorrow. We don't have big plans for NYs and I am working both Monday and Tuesday anyway. Will weigh in Monday but I know it's going to be high and 🐷
 
Starting up tomorrow. We don't have big plans for NYs and I am working both Monday and Tuesday anyway. Will weigh in Monday but I know it's going to be high and 🐷
I was surprisingly back down to 222 today. That sounds awful to say "down" to 222. My official start for this round will be 1/1. Good luck all!
 
Happy about everyone dropping the LBs, but can we get “drug help” caveats if there’s a bit of an assist there?
Yeah I don't think I would ever use one of those, too afraid of side effects (not to mention I'm cheap). But for those who are severely obese it is probably worth the risk.
 
Happy about everyone dropping the LBs, but can we get “drug help” caveats if there’s a bit of an assist there?
Yeah I don't think I would ever use one of those, too afraid of side effects (not to mention I'm cheap). But for those who are severely obese it is probably worth the risk.
Meh, I think they’re a net benefit for just about any obese individual who’s tried in earnest via diet/exercise, yet BMI remains over 30. Or maybe even lower, in concert with health conditions associated with excess weight.

What would it take for you to rethink your stance on pharmacologic adjuncts to weight loss?
 
Happy about everyone dropping the LBs, but can we get “drug help” caveats if there’s a bit of an assist there?
Why? Do you think it lessens the impressiveness of the accomplishment?

I mean, we just want people to get healthier, right? It’s not a competition.

I’m on one and I get why people would want to know. When you look at everybody having success dropping pounds and you’re trying hard but not (or you’re not trying hard but feel about it) you naturally want to know if they’re on the diet steroids. It’s like Ken Griffey Jr. having to watch McGwire and Sosa.
 
Happy about everyone dropping the LBs, but can we get “drug help” caveats if there’s a bit of an assist there?
Why? Do you think it lessens the impressiveness of the accomplishment?

I mean, we just want people to get healthier, right? It’s not a competition.

I’m on one and I get why people would want to know. When you look at everybody having success dropping pounds and you’re trying hard but not (or you’re not trying hard but feel about it) you naturally want to know if they’re on the diet steroids. It’s like Ken Griffey Jr. having to watch McGwire and Sosa.
Except the latter scenario is a competition.

Of course, people should disclose their use to anyone who wants to know how weight loss was achieved. But I don’t like the comparison to PEDs.
 
Happy about everyone dropping the LBs, but can we get “drug help” caveats if there’s a bit of an assist there?
Why? Do you think it lessens the impressiveness of the accomplishment?

I mean, we just want people to get healthier, right? It’s not a competition.

I’m on one and I get why people would want to know. When you look at everybody having success dropping pounds and you’re trying hard but not (or you’re not trying hard but feel about it) you naturally want to know if they’re on the diet steroids. It’s like Ken Griffey Jr. having to watch McGwire and Sosa.
Except the latter scenario is a competition.

Of course, people should disclose their use to anyone who wants to know how weight loss was achieved. But I don’t like the comparison to PEDs.

Good point. Poor analogy.
 
Happy about everyone dropping the LBs, but can we get “drug help” caveats if there’s a bit of an assist there?
Why? Do you think it lessens the impressiveness of the accomplishment?

I mean, we just want people to get healthier, right? It’s not a competition.

I’m on one and I get why people would want to know. When you look at everybody having success dropping pounds and you’re trying hard but not (or you’re not trying hard but feel about it) you naturally want to know if they’re on the diet steroids. It’s like Ken Griffey Jr. having to watch McGwire and Sosa.
Except the latter scenario is a competition.

Of course, people should disclose their use to anyone who wants to know how weight loss was achieved. But I don’t like the comparison to PEDs.

Good point. Poor analogy.
Jim Gaffigan has a bit where he points out nobody considers it "cheating" to take meds for hypertension and other chronic medical problems, so why should obesity be any different? It's a multi-systems disease, not a simple failure of willpower.

I'd much rather people take the meds, and achieve the health benefits of weight loss, than fail repeatedly at behavior modification. Drug-free obesity isn't a prize anyone should covet.
 
Happy about everyone dropping the LBs, but can we get “drug help” caveats if there’s a bit of an assist there?
Why? Do you think it lessens the impressiveness of the accomplishment?

I mean, we just want people to get healthier, right? It’s not a competition.

I’m on one and I get why people would want to know. When you look at everybody having success dropping pounds and you’re trying hard but not (or you’re not trying hard but feel about it) you naturally want to know if they’re on the diet steroids. It’s like Ken Griffey Jr. having to watch McGwire and Sosa.
Except the latter scenario is a competition.

Of course, people should disclose their use to anyone who wants to know how weight loss was achieved. But I don’t like the comparison to PEDs.
Yeah, but everything is a competition.

When it comes to medication, I am on the side of using it if it helps.
 
Happy about everyone dropping the LBs, but can we get “drug help” caveats if there’s a bit of an assist there?
Why? Do you think it lessens the impressiveness of the accomplishment?

I mean, we just want people to get healthier, right? It’s not a competition.

I’m on one and I get why people would want to know. When you look at everybody having success dropping pounds and you’re trying hard but not (or you’re not trying hard but feel about it) you naturally want to know if they’re on the diet steroids. It’s like Ken Griffey Jr. having to watch McGwire and Sosa.
Except the latter scenario is a competition.

Of course, people should disclose their use to anyone who wants to know how weight loss was achieved. But I don’t like the comparison to PEDs.
Yeah, but everything is a competition.

When it comes to medication, I am on the side of using it if it helps.
I kinda understand that mindset for many things, but not health. Do people really feel a need to outperform their friends/family/etc. when it comes to weight loss?

It’s nice to have a community to keep people accountable, answer questions, and provide motivation when times are tough. But none of us are contestants on The Biggest Loser.
 
Day 1 a very high sloppy 234 🐷 5'9"

I know it's not just the scale but I need to start slowly with exercise due to my lower back discs.

1 goal is to drink more water. I rarely drink any outside of lunch.

My semi realistic unrealistic goals.

219 by 2/1
205 by 3/7 that's 9.5 weeks to lose 29 pounds. Slightly aggressive but 2 pounds a week is almost 20 plus the early water weight. Anything below 210 Id be very excited about.

After that I don't have a time frame.

174 is my final goal. But anywhere in the 185 range would be fine. That's what I weighed when I graduated college and was in great shape.

Just need to start moving more besides just golf. Which sucks on my back but love it lol

53/M/NJ.
 
Happy about everyone dropping the LBs, but can we get “drug help” caveats if there’s a bit of an assist there?
Why? Do you think it lessens the impressiveness of the accomplishment?

I mean, we just want people to get healthier, right? It’s not a competition.
I think it's an important factor in the process especially if other people are listening to their advice on how they lost weight.
 
I spent my last year focusing on 1rep maxes for the Rogue Challange. I'm almost where I need to be to be, but I have to do all three lifts (Bench/Squat/Deadlift) within an hour. I pulled my hamstring playing flag football over Thanksgiving, so I'm giving that the time needed to recover before lifting heavy again. I also need to move my squat PR from a safety squat bar to a straight bar for the competition. That will be my biggest issue due to shoulder mobility.

Aiming for Spring or Early summer and then I'll start a weight loss plan. Eating for power and the holidays has taken a toll.

My wife is starting her first crossfit class today. So I may explore that some more if she likes it.
 
I spent my last year focusing on 1rep maxes for the Rogue Challange. I'm almost where I need to be to be, but I have to do all three lifts (Bench/Squat/Deadlift) within an hour. I pulled my hamstring playing flag football over Thanksgiving, so I'm giving that the time needed to recover before lifting heavy again. I also need to move my squat PR from a safety squat bar to a straight bar for the competition. That will be my biggest issue due to shoulder mobility.

Aiming for Spring or Early summer and then I'll start a weight loss plan. Eating for power and the holidays has taken a toll.

My wife is starting her first crossfit class today. So I may explore that some more if she likes it.
With all due respect, that comp sounds like a recipe for injury. How many of the contestants are middle aged? Do you do anything special, to avoid hurting yourself?
 
Happy about everyone dropping the LBs, but can we get “drug help” caveats if there’s a bit of an assist there?
Why? Do you think it lessens the impressiveness of the accomplishment?

I mean, we just want people to get healthier, right? It’s not a competition.
I think it's an important factor in the process especially if other people are listening to their advice on how they lost weight.
No drugs in my story. Eliminated white carbs, reduced carbs in general, increased protein, increased activity.

Slow, steady and sustainable was the plan.
 
I spent my last year focusing on 1rep maxes for the Rogue Challange. I'm almost where I need to be to be, but I have to do all three lifts (Bench/Squat/Deadlift) within an hour. I pulled my hamstring playing flag football over Thanksgiving, so I'm giving that the time needed to recover before lifting heavy again. I also need to move my squat PR from a safety squat bar to a straight bar for the competition. That will be my biggest issue due to shoulder mobility.

Aiming for Spring or Early summer and then I'll start a weight loss plan. Eating for power and the holidays has taken a toll.

My wife is starting her first crossfit class today. So I may explore that some more if she likes it.
With all due respect, that comp sounds like a recipe for injury. How many of the contestants are middle aged? Do you do anything special, to avoid hurting yourself?
Probably most of us trying to relive the glory days. I plan to do mine via video.


I don't do anything special to avoid injuries. I've been lifting on and off for 25 years, so I've learned (through injuries) what works for me and what doesn't. Most of my injuries are me being stupid and pushing a limit too hard or having poor form.

3x heavy days of push, pull, legs
3x lighter days of core, arms, shoulders
Rest at least once a week. Lately it's been twice a week due to a busy schedule.
 

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