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Game of Thrones on HBO: non-book thread (1 Viewer)
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Foosball God
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Ygritte is smoking, I put her level with with Rob Stark's wife, just below Magery.
Leeroy Jenkins
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I thought it was a nearly perfect episode. Visually stunning. Storylines pickup where they left off setting things up for this season. I like the longer scenes. It's less choppy. I also liked that they didn't try to squeeze everybody in. This is going to be the best season of tv.
Also really liked the shot of Davos getting dropped off with the huge walls of Dragonstone in the background. The Giant & the dragons looked much better too. Another minor detail I thought was great was in the opening credits sequence of the models/locations Winterfell was on fire with smoke rising above it.
Rick James
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Agreed. Also, when we saw Robb's army winding down the road stretching for miles and miles. In the first season his army looked like 70 people.
That stuck out to me as pretty cool. I'm always curious how scenes like that are filmed. It definitely looked real, especially the troops in the foreground.. but I would guess all the columns of people behind them were CGI.
Eviloutsider
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I thought the episode was fantastic, an excellent start to the season and all I could have hoped for. To the person who said the Davos story escaleted quickly, you are correct but I think that was the point, to show how far Stannis has gone over to the Red Lady's side. There was no homecoming, no care, and no discussion from Stannis and within two minutes, he threw his closest ally in jail without a thought.
mad sweeney
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Well, he did try to kill Melisandre. But after that, Stannis threw Davos in jail without a thought. Who knows what would've happened to him if he bided his time and waited to kill her.
gump
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Eviloutsider
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Gr00vus
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Great episode all around. Now for a some gripes.
The CGI dragons really need work. Not only do they look obviously cgi, but the actors are still having problems "interacting" with them. Similarly with the scarab. Conversly I thought the giant looked pretty good.
The dialogue between Cersei and Tyrion is getting a bit hard to beleive - at some point one or the other or both would have just told the other to #### off. I think Dinklage is doing his best to make it work, but the chick playing Cersei has gone charicature in her smarmy #####iness. While the threats are still there, they play out much more subtely (and believably) in the book.
I still don't get why the zombie amy just passed by Sam, but then one tries to kill him on the way back. Makes zero sense. Really crummy departure from what has been an extremely well written show.
That episode went by way too fast. I need to watch it again tonight.
The CGI dragons really need work. Not only do they look obviously cgi, but the actors are still having problems "interacting" with them. Similarly with the scarab. Conversly I thought the giant looked pretty good.
The dialogue between Cersei and Tyrion is getting a bit hard to beleive - at some point one or the other or both would have just told the other to #### off. I think Dinklage is doing his best to make it work, but the chick playing Cersei has gone charicature in her smarmy #####iness. While the threats are still there, they play out much more subtely (and believably) in the book.
I still don't get why the zombie amy just passed by Sam, but then one tries to kill him on the way back. Makes zero sense. Really crummy departure from what has been an extremely well written show.
That episode went by way too fast. I need to watch it again tonight.
Rick James
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I thought the dragons looked great. I agree the scarab (scorpion thingy) was pretty weak.
and the Giant did look awesome.
and the Giant did look awesome.
Whitetail Hunter
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I like Cersei. Hottest on the show IMO.
ConnSKINS26
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I don't get the gripes with the dragons. We've all been ridiculously spoiled by LOTR, Avatar, etc. This might be HBO, but it's still TV guys, the dragons look fine. More than fine.
Their issue with the scorpion was that they tried to make it look all exotic instead of just making it a black poisonous scorpion, which I think would have looked 100% real. Instead they went the way they did, and it looked a little corny but still fine. Didn't pull me out of the action at all.
Little details like nobody's armor (especially the leather stuff worn by Rob and his guys) looking worn or even used pulls me out of the moment when watching, WAY more than the CGI. He's a young warrior king that inspires his men by slaughtering Lannisters alongside his direwolf (which also looked 100x better than last season btw...I thought they avoided showing Ghost to avoid rendering the CGI at times last year) and yet his armor looks pristine and not even broken in, as if he's a nerd at Comic-Con wearing his authentic replica GoT leather armor for the first time.
Their issue with the scorpion was that they tried to make it look all exotic instead of just making it a black poisonous scorpion, which I think would have looked 100% real. Instead they went the way they did, and it looked a little corny but still fine. Didn't pull me out of the action at all.
Little details like nobody's armor (especially the leather stuff worn by Rob and his guys) looking worn or even used pulls me out of the moment when watching, WAY more than the CGI. He's a young warrior king that inspires his men by slaughtering Lannisters alongside his direwolf (which also looked 100x better than last season btw...I thought they avoided showing Ghost to avoid rendering the CGI at times last year) and yet his armor looks pristine and not even broken in, as if he's a nerd at Comic-Con wearing his authentic replica GoT leather armor for the first time.
Rush Limbaugh Fan
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mad sweeney
Footballguy
True, he didn't seem much interested but that's still a ways away from throwing him in jail without a thought.
KarmaPolice
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Finally got around to watching this just now. In general I don't like GCI but knew it was coming. I would agree with the above poster that the dragons look a little silly, especially when it's a obviously just to show them off - ie the one swooping in just to grab a bite to eat. Maybe it's also because over the coarse of Season 2 Dany became one of my least favorite characters.
Also didn't dig on the opening scene of the show. WTF is Ghost doing with Mormont and the others when Jon is elsewhere?, and agree with another post that said the handling of Sam escaping the White Walkers was a bit :eyeroll:
Those mild gripes aside, I thought the show was quite good. Loved the scene with Tyrion and Tywinn. This season and next are going to be epic.
Also didn't dig on the opening scene of the show. WTF is Ghost doing with Mormont and the others when Jon is elsewhere?, and agree with another post that said the handling of Sam escaping the White Walkers was a bit :eyeroll:
Those mild gripes aside, I thought the show was quite good. Loved the scene with Tyrion and Tywinn. This season and next are going to be epic.
Ilov80s
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Like Melisandre said, Davo was the one that convinced Stannis not to bring her to the battle. She has Stannis convinced that his doubting her was the reason for his defeat. He may see Davos as a bit of traitor in the sense that his lack of faith led to the costly mistake.
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Apple Jack
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What was the deal with the chubby kid having an army of walkers pay him no mind at the end of season two, but now one is trying to kill him? Is that explained in the book?
Cold Dead Hands
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That scene in season 2 never happened in the book. The walkers attacked the fist, the top of that hill that was in season 2 where Sam finds the obsidian blades. About 50 or so of the crows make it off the fist and get away using the torches to fend off the walkers. Season 3 essentially picks up there.
Swing 51
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That scene played out differently in the book. Can't really get in to it without spoiling something that may happen later.
Rick James
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Ghost is not always at Jon's side. In fact he strays pretty frequently.Finally got around to watching this just now. In general I don't like GCI but knew it was coming. I would agree with the above poster that the dragons look a little silly, especially when it's a obviously just to show them off - ie the one swooping in just to grab a bite to eat. Maybe it's also because over the coarse of Season 2 Dany became one of my least favorite characters.
Also didn't dig on the opening scene of the show. WTF is Ghost doing with Mormont and the others when Jon is elsewhere?, and agree with another post that said the handling of Sam escaping the White Walkers was a bit :eyeroll:
Those mild gripes aside, I thought the show was quite good. Loved the scene with Tyrion and Tywinn. This season and next are going to be epic.
Apple Jack
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It's almost like they just wanted to have an excuse to the head guy look at the camera. If that's the case, they could have done it without writing something so needlessly confusing into it. Doesn't really make any sense.
Ilov80s
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In Season 2, Jon's wolf actually runs off while they are out traveling to meet Halfhand. He seemed to be gone for good (obviously, we knew it would come back).Ghost is not always at Jon's side. In fact he strays pretty frequently.Finally got around to watching this just now. In general I don't like GCI but knew it was coming. I would agree with the above poster that the dragons look a little silly, especially when it's a obviously just to show them off - ie the one swooping in just to grab a bite to eat. Maybe it's also because over the coarse of Season 2 Dany became one of my least favorite characters.
Also didn't dig on the opening scene of the show. WTF is Ghost doing with Mormont and the others when Jon is elsewhere?, and agree with another post that said the handling of Sam escaping the White Walkers was a bit :eyeroll:
Those mild gripes aside, I thought the show was quite good. Loved the scene with Tyrion and Tywinn. This season and next are going to be epic.
KarmaPolice
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Strays, yes. Hangs out with other members of the Night's Watch, no.Ghost is not always at Jon's side. In fact he strays pretty frequently.Finally got around to watching this just now. In general I don't like GCI but knew it was coming. I would agree with the above poster that the dragons look a little silly, especially when it's a obviously just to show them off - ie the one swooping in just to grab a bite to eat. Maybe it's also because over the coarse of Season 2 Dany became one of my least favorite characters.
Also didn't dig on the opening scene of the show. WTF is Ghost doing with Mormont and the others when Jon is elsewhere?, and agree with another post that said the handling of Sam escaping the White Walkers was a bit :eyeroll:
Those mild gripes aside, I thought the show was quite good. Loved the scene with Tyrion and Tywinn. This season and next are going to be epic.
For me it was a silly thing to add to that scene.
jamny
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Enjoyed the first episode. I didn't rewatch anything from past seasons so I wasn't sure if I'd be up to speed on what was going on but they did a good job catching things back up. I hope this season is as good as many are making it out to be, judging by the books. Nice to see Ceasar from "Rome" too.
Didn't make much sense with the scene here at the start of season 3 either. The Lord Commander asks him if he sent the ravens to warn people? Well last we saw there was an entire army of the dead between Sam and the camp, how the heck would he able to make it back there? I get they wanted to setup that none of the other characters know about the threat other than the wildlings and the remaining crows need to try and get back to the wall to warn people, but seems they could have set that up a little better.
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=Smackdown=
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Great start to Season 3.
Dig up the bones but leave her soul alone . . .
Dig up the bones but leave her soul alone . . .
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culdeus
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That confused me too. I asked my wife "did he say ravens" where the #### would he get a raven from?
mad sweeney
Footballguy
They brought the ravens with them. They're the whole reason Sam was on the trip in the first place. That didn't make sense to me. Sam was out digging for poop fuel(?) when the walkers came. I doubt he'd have been out doing that if he had ravens to send. Of all the storylines, the walker attack seems to have been clumsily handled leaving a lot of confusion. Should be cleared up soon though.
The Ref
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It threw me for a loop - I just assumed some time had passed and somehow he made it out alive from the march of the walkers.
Officer Pete Malloy
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Pretty "meh" over-all. A day and a half later and I can't think of anything that jumped out at me...good or bad.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I figured he'd slaughtered the walkers, fired off the ravens with a deft behind-the-back move and had moved on to looking for fuel. All in a day's work for Tarly.
Leeroy Jenkins
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Sam is a coward. He should have ran back to the fist with Grenn and Edd, but instead he was in shock and tried to hide behind a boulder. Had he made it back to the fist, he would have reached his ravens to send out. He hid during the battle instead of trying to do his duty. The White Walkers and wights passed him by out of sheer luck. They were on the march and weren't concerned with a single straggler at that point. (at least that's what I am selling myself. Not a big deal to the story. It's TV and they wanted that ending/persepctive for the season finale)
Leeroy Jenkins
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We are pretty far away from the wall right now. The wall is also more than a physical barrier to the White Walkers apparently (some magic was allegedly involed with its erection), so we shall see what happens.
tdoss
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I really don't like any part of that walker beginning.
A whole army of walkers pass the fat dude. Then fatty runs...the other way? Towards them? What? If he runs towards them where his friends ran...then where did they go? How did the rest of the group not encounter them? Ravens? Dude was getting fuel...does he have ravens under that coat? Who sounded the freaking trumpet blasts? Couldn't that guy send some damn ravens? Sounds like he was the first to see walkers...sounds like he's the dude that should warn others.
The whole damn scene is confusing and poorly thought out. We can make logical leaps to make some connections but this whole sequence is a veritable "Jump to Conclusions" mat.
A whole army of walkers pass the fat dude. Then fatty runs...the other way? Towards them? What? If he runs towards them where his friends ran...then where did they go? How did the rest of the group not encounter them? Ravens? Dude was getting fuel...does he have ravens under that coat? Who sounded the freaking trumpet blasts? Couldn't that guy send some damn ravens? Sounds like he was the first to see walkers...sounds like he's the dude that should warn others.
The whole damn scene is confusing and poorly thought out. We can make logical leaps to make some connections but this whole sequence is a veritable "Jump to Conclusions" mat.
Sabertooth
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The end game is that they all get killed by Dany's dragons I am assuming.
Evilgrin 72
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Apple Jack
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
Ofcourse the Walkers left Sam there. If you are building an army of people or zombies, Sam is the last person you want on your side. They saw how fat, pathetic, and cowardly he was and decided it was best to leave him on the human side. But seriously, there is a logical explanation somewhere for how it went down, but the show doesn't really give you much to connect the dots with. I don't even really think there was a battle. That zombie army is marching in full force to the Wall. So somehow, Sam was part of a smaller group that went looking for fuel, scouting. He had the ravens with him. The larger party that Moremont was with saw the Walkers, blew the horns. Sam completely disregarded going back to the outpost they may have established during their scouting expedition for the ravens. Instead he hid, waited for the army to pass and then just ran back to the main camp with Moremont. A long the way, he encountered a stray walker. Moremont's party also likely waited for the zombie army to pass and then headed to where Sam's group was set-up to see if anyone survived. They expect that Sam's 1 duty was to handle the ravens and he put his life infront of the realm by running away instead of risking death to send warning.
Forgot that the other guys with Sam had ran back to the camp and Sam didn't. I think he originally fell behind and tripped in the snow because he's not exactly Mr Athletic, and ended up hiding behind a rock. Plus you can probably make the leap that the Lord Commander probably had no idea that Sam was out on poop-fuel duty since it's not like he would be in charge of every little detail. Would have liked to see Sam at least speak up and say something like I was cutoff from the camp and didn't have a chance. Then again, he is a coward and weakling.
Loved the Unsullied introduction and the guy speaking in his tongue and then the translator doing her best to smooth things over.
Loved the Unsullied introduction and the guy speaking in his tongue and then the translator doing her best to smooth things over.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
On another note, so many of the people playing minor roles are doing great jobs. I think that's one of the things that makes these HBO series stand out. Other shows/production channels just don't seem to be able to fill in all the parts with good actors even when they get quality for the leads.
Like James Cosmo. I think this is the best role I've seen him in except for maybe Trainspotting (in which I think he had like 4 lines). Granted I've only seen his big budget roles where he generally plays crazy old scottish military guy. But here he's doing a great job as Mormont.
Also, I think Sansa needs to be mentioned in the hottest women in the show conversation. Sure the character hasn't been completely sympathetic so far, and they've kept her covered up (even when she's supposed to be getting stripped by the kingsguard or raped by the citizens of King's Landing). But she's still very pretty.
Like James Cosmo. I think this is the best role I've seen him in except for maybe Trainspotting (in which I think he had like 4 lines). Granted I've only seen his big budget roles where he generally plays crazy old scottish military guy. But here he's doing a great job as Mormont.
Also, I think Sansa needs to be mentioned in the hottest women in the show conversation. Sure the character hasn't been completely sympathetic so far, and they've kept her covered up (even when she's supposed to be getting stripped by the kingsguard or raped by the citizens of King's Landing). But she's still very pretty.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I think the actress playing Sansa is only 16 (and is playing essentially a 12-13 year old), so that may be the reason people aren't commenting there. But yeah, the cast is amazing. I can't really think of somone I thought was bad. In most shows when characters die off or fade from the main story, it is tough to keep people interested but Thrones keeps churning out amazing new characters each season. Year 1 we lose Ned, pompous Targaryan, King Robert, Arya's dancing master and Drogo. No big deal, here comes the faceless assasin guy, Ygritte, Stannis/Davos/Melissandre, Theon's sister, Loras Tyrell's sister, Brienne, etc. Hell, Tywin Lannister didn't even appear untill the last couple episodes of S1. They just churn out great character after great character.
collective
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collective
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