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I don't think that's it at all. I wasn't surprised with that. Her going bye-bye was hinted at enough.msommer said:
Deserve's got nothing to do with it.
Except TWD got bad- like, truly bad- years ago, and they keep pushing it out there worse and worse every season (I stopped watching right before the whispers).bryhamm said:
..through Season 4.the moops said:
I wouldn’t suggest he actually stop. But this show was top of research list for years. Haven’t watched a single ep again since the finale. I just can’t do it.
Hold my beer.ghostguy123 said:
As the others have said, it's worth the investment through about season 5, after that the writers mail it in but you're invested by then so you'll probably piss & moan but still finish it like we all did.ghostguy123 said:
Season 6 was really good and episode 10 is one of the 3-4 best in the entire series. I’d watch through there at least.
The end was fine. Not great and wish they did a few more episodes. The problem is imo the extremely high bar they set the first 5-6 seasons. Hard to clear for any show.
Definitely stick with the show, it's really worth it. Yes the last 2 seasons weren't as good as everything that led up to it, but not so bad that it would ruin the entire experience or that you shouldn't watch them or anything.ghostguy123 said:
While the show was going on, I rewatched. I probably saw S1 3 times, S2-4 twice. After that, I lost some interest. Those early seasons held up great at the time.
Yes.
I agree with this. unfortunately GRRM didn't finish the material in time for the show, so they only had a rough outline to go on.
Are you looking for answers?
It does make you realize that once they past the time line of the source material, they ran out of good ideas. I blame Martin as well though. Not only for refusing to finish this series but also in not giving them at least a detailed outline for the last two seasons.
You know, I can't blame him for not giving them the blueprint for what he wanted to do. Most theatrical versions of books vary from the source material anyway, and in ways that sometimes upset the fans and the writers (I understand Alan Moore hates the movie version of Watchmen, along with some hard-core fans. I'd never heard of it before seeing the movie and I quite liked it.). Martin probably decided early on that by allowing his books to be turned into a TV series, there were going to be artistic liberties taken with his source material, and he probably liked that the last 2 seasons showed him what he DIDN'T want to do with the book story.
This is significantly different from Alan Moore imo. Moore wanted absolutely nothing to do with Hollywood making his stories and detached himself both artistically and financially from the projects. From an artistic point of view he insists that his name not be attached to any of the many movies on his books (Watchmen, V for Vendetta, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen etc etc)
He may have, but what he talks about in this interview might have been the real issue. He talks about not being the type of writer who is an architect (one who can plan out stories in an outline form ahead of time) and that he is more of a gardener, growing his stories organically as he writes.
It is absolutely true he did not finish writing the series. And still hasn't. It has been 9 years since the last book.
You said he "refused" to write the rest of the series. That is absolutely incorrect. He's not dead, man, and has been posting updates on his progress in writing.
My bad choice of words. I should have said he chose not to finish the story by the time the series ended instead of refused. He wrote numerous other books in the time frame instead.
If Moore doesn't want Hollywood to touch his stories then he shouldn't sell the rights to them.
I think it is/was more complicated than that. Moore back in the day worked for a small comic book company. Through a series of acquisitions, more and more of the rights to his stories were sold until DC eventually scooped up all the rights.
It really wasn’t a hard story to wrap up either. The pieces were all there but instead of making something interesting and incorporating the character development of the previous seasons, they just went straight from point A to point B. Made something that really didn’t make sense, ignored most questions that were brought up in previous seasons and mailed it in. There are dozens of fan endings online that would have been ten times better. Thing that sucks the most is it killed the rewatchability of the show, atleast for me. I haven’t really thought of it much at all since it ended and I couldn’t wait for each new episode as they aired. Never hear anyone talking about it even a couple weeks after the finale. It kinda ended and disappeared. So strange for a show that was a cultural phenomenon.
IIRC he said he only gave them how he thought the series would end in broad strokes.
It went from having a legit shot at being considered the greatest TV show in history to being one people won't even want to rewatch.
