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[KarmaPolice]

Look I am not an expert on torture or anything. I think I and others found it a little much that Theon was still like that when his rescue was right there in the room with him. I get him not cutting Ramsay's throat while all his guards are there, but Sunday night was a whole different level.

As people have pointed out, he was broken before Ramsay got him and we did see the psychological side as he lets him out just to hunt him down, etc.. Not that I really want to see another season of Ramsay ####### with Theon, but I just felt that there was a next level to when we see Theon call himself Reek at the end of season 2 to where he is in episode 6 and refusing to go with his sister.

Long story short, I assume people are picking this apart because the story line kinda sucks and doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

Are people just forgetting the scene early in the season where Ramsay introduces Reek to Roose and has Reek shave him?!

He didn't forget. I guess it wasn't compelling enough.I have no problem with Theon's state of mind or his reactions to the rescue attempt. Ramsay tried that #### with him last season and made him pay dearly, I can understand that he didn't jump at the opportunity to get something else cut off.

I guess you do see the start that he is broken down enough that he doesn't think its his sister anyway.

 

[Amused to Death]

I mentioned it in that quote, but I wasn't clear. I get him being beat down enough to not hurt Ramsay or cut his throat with his father and guards there. he is ob another level of messed up to not go with asha when the odds are more level.

That's Yara in this thread pal.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I mentioned it in that quote, but I wasn't clear. I get him being beat down enough to not hurt Ramsay or cut his throat with his father and guards there. he is ob another level of messed up to not go with asha when the odds are more level.

That's Yara in this thread pal.

 

[Chaka]

Look I am not an expert on torture or anything. I think I and others found it a little much that Theon was still like that when his rescue was right there in the room with him. I get him not cutting Ramsay's throat while all his guards are there, but Sunday night was a whole different level.

As people have pointed out, he was broken before Ramsay got him and we did see the psychological side as he lets him out just to hunt him down, etc.. Not that I really want to see another season of Ramsay ####### with Theon, but I just felt that there was a next level to when we see Theon call himself Reek at the end of season 2 to where he is in episode 6 and refusing to go with his sister.

Long story short, I assume people are picking this apart because the story line kinda sucks and doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

Are people just forgetting the scene early in the season where Ramsay introduces Reek to Roose and has Reek shave him?!

He didn't forget. I guess it wasn't compelling enough.I have no problem with Theon's state of mind or his reactions to the rescue attempt. Ramsay tried that #### with him last season and made him pay dearly, I can understand that he didn't jump at the opportunity to get something else cut off.

I guess you do see the start that he is broken down enough that he doesn't think its his sister anyway.

He doesn't trust the concept of freedom anymore. While I agree that last weeks Reek installment was poorly executed on screen, I am very surprised at people's reaction to how far Theon has fallen. Dude was crushed for what was likely months of Westeros time, last season. With the severity of what they showed happen to him last season, and the marks on his body we saw on Sunday, indicating the torture was much worse than what we saw, I have no doubt that'd do it.

I think people mistakenly believe that they would be incapable of falling so far, I assure you that those people are wrong.

 

[Wildcat]

Look I am not an expert on torture or anything. I think I and others found it a little much that Theon was still like that when his rescue was right there in the room with him. I get him not cutting Ramsay's throat while all his guards are there, but Sunday night was a whole different level.

As people have pointed out, he was broken before Ramsay got him and we did see the psychological side as he lets him out just to hunt him down, etc.. Not that I really want to see another season of Ramsay ####### with Theon, but I just felt that there was a next level to when we see Theon call himself Reek at the end of season 2 to where he is in episode 6 and refusing to go with his sister.

Long story short, I assume people are picking this apart because the story line kinda sucks and doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

Are people just forgetting the scene early in the season where Ramsay introduces Reek to Roose and has Reek shave him?!

He didn't forget. I guess it wasn't compelling enough.I have no problem with Theon's state of mind or his reactions to the rescue attempt. Ramsay tried that #### with him last season and made him pay dearly, I can understand that he didn't jump at the opportunity to get something else cut off.

I guess you do see the start that he is broken down enough that he doesn't think its his sister anyway.

He doesn't trust the concept of freedom anymore. While I agree that last weeks Reek installment was poorly executed on screen, I am very surprised at people's reaction to how far Theon has fallen. Dude was crushed for what was likely months of Westeros time, last season. With the severity of what they showed happen to him last season, and the marks on his body we saw on Sunday, indicating the torture was much worse than what we saw, I have no doubt that'd do it.

I think people mistakenly believe that they would be incapable of falling so far, I assure you that those people are wrong.

Plus his wanger was cut off!!!

 

[KarmaPolice]

Look I am not an expert on torture or anything. I think I and others found it a little much that Theon was still like that when his rescue was right there in the room with him. I get him not cutting Ramsay's throat while all his guards are there, but Sunday night was a whole different level.

As people have pointed out, he was broken before Ramsay got him and we did see the psychological side as he lets him out just to hunt him down, etc.. Not that I really want to see another season of Ramsay ####### with Theon, but I just felt that there was a next level to when we see Theon call himself Reek at the end of season 2 to where he is in episode 6 and refusing to go with his sister.

Long story short, I assume people are picking this apart because the story line kinda sucks and doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

Are people just forgetting the scene early in the season where Ramsay introduces Reek to Roose and has Reek shave him?!

He didn't forget. I guess it wasn't compelling enough.I have no problem with Theon's state of mind or his reactions to the rescue attempt. Ramsay tried that #### with him last season and made him pay dearly, I can understand that he didn't jump at the opportunity to get something else cut off.

I guess you do see the start that he is broken down enough that he doesn't think its his sister anyway.

He doesn't trust the concept of freedom anymore. While I agree that last weeks Reek installment was poorly executed on screen, I am very surprised at people's reaction to how far Theon has fallen. Dude was crushed for what was likely months of Westeros time, last season. With the severity of what they showed happen to him last season, and the marks on his body we saw on Sunday, indicating the torture was much worse than what we saw, I have no doubt that'd do it.I think people mistakenly believe that they would be incapable of falling so far, I assure you that those people are wrong.

you bring up very good points about reek.

just a poorly executed scene that left a bad taste in a lot of mouths. a buildup to a big rescue followed by a cut to YARA gettin back in a boat and taking off. I am sure some of my disappointment with it is that I just want to see reek go off on Ramsay, but it looks like he might be past that point.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

What a bunch of nerds.

It was the Alpha Betas. Show some ####### respect!!!

 

[KarmaPolice]

What a bunch of nerds.

lost respect after ogre goes nerd

 

[GregR]

I think people mistakenly believe that they would be incapable of falling so far, I assure you that those people are wrong.

No, that's not the point. It has nothing to do with how much he went through or whether it could be enough to break someone that far. It is about Theon not being shown behaving in ways that would make one say, "what he went through has this guy is ready to completely lose all sense of self".

Instead they showed a guy that you'd say, "what he went through has this guy giving in to stop the pain now, but he's still not that close to completely broken".

ETA: If you want an analogy... picture a scene from some movie where a guy runs a half mile or mile. At the end of it he's not breathing particularly hard and has just a bit of perspiration and is standing upright normally. And then he keels over form a heart attack and dies. Then picture the same exact scene except the guy is barely standing, huffing and puffing for breath and sweating buckets, and then he keels over from a heart attack and dies.

It isn't about whether either man went through enough to have a heart attack as they went through the same thing. It's about whether the scene showed the effects on each man to where a heart attack seemed a likely outcome. The first guy falling over dead seems out of place because the scene doesn't show us enough signs that the effects of the run on him are so bad that we feel a heart attack is likely.

Same with Theon. It isn't about whether Theon went through enough he could break down like that. It's about whether they showed the events affected him to where it was now a likely outcome. I don't think they did. The moment he gave in just felt incongruous. You could see what they intended, they just failed to show it was affecting him to that degree until all the sudden he's snapped.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I thought the whole rescuing Theon scene was very dumb. First they build it up with this great speech by his sister and youre getting all amped for the rescue and then all Ramsay does is unlock the gates with the dogs and they run away with their tails between their legs like little #####es? They had swords. Are dogs immune to getting stabbed? Also Ramsay is fighting with no armor and survives? Yet they kill all his armored guards? He must be the best fighter in Westeros.

There were quite a few logistical problems with that whole scenario.

I refuse to believe they had dogs back in dinosaur times.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

I thought the whole rescuing Theon scene was very dumb. First they build it up with this great speech by his sister and youre getting all amped for the rescue and then all Ramsay does is unlock the gates with the dogs and they run away with their tails between their legs like little #####es? They had swords. Are dogs immune to getting stabbed? Also Ramsay is fighting with no armor and survives? Yet they kill all his armored guards? He must be the best fighter in Westeros.

There were quite a few logistical problems with that whole scenario.

I refuse to believe they had dogs back in dinosaur times.

Proof

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I think people mistakenly believe that they would be incapable of falling so far, I assure you that those people are wrong.

No, that's not the point. It has nothing to do with how much he went through or whether it could be enough to break someone that far. It is about Theon not being shown behaving in ways that would make one say, "what he went through has this guy is ready to completely lose all sense of self".

Instead they showed a guy that you'd say, "what he went through has this guy giving in to stop the pain now, but he's still not that close to completely broken".

ETA: If you want an analogy... picture a scene from some movie where a guy runs a half mile or mile. At the end of it he's not breathing particularly hard and has just a bit of perspiration and is standing upright normally. And then he keels over form a heart attack and dies. Then picture the same exact scene except the guy is barely standing, huffing and puffing for breath and sweating buckets, and then he keels over from a heart attack and dies.

It isn't about whether either man went through enough to have a heart attack as they went through the same thing. It's about whether the scene showed the effects on each man to where a heart attack seemed a likely outcome. The first guy falling over dead seems out of place because the scene doesn't show us enough signs that the effects of the run on him are so bad that we feel a heart attack is likely.

Same with Theon. It isn't about whether Theon went through enough he could break down like that. It's about whether they showed the events affected him to where it was now a likely outcome. I don't think they did. The moment he gave in just felt incongruous. You could see what they intended, they just failed to show it was affecting him to that degree until all the sudden he's snapped.

Really? How much more torture do you need?

 

[Chaka]

I think people mistakenly believe that they would be incapable of falling so far, I assure you that those people are wrong.

No, that's not the point. It has nothing to do with how much he went through or whether it could be enough to break someone that far. It is about Theon not being shown behaving in ways that would make one say, "what he went through has this guy is ready to completely lose all sense of self".

Instead they showed a guy that you'd say, "what he went through has this guy giving in to stop the pain now, but he's still not that close to completely broken".

ETA: If you want an analogy... picture a scene from some movie where a guy runs a half mile or mile. At the end of it he's not breathing particularly hard and has just a bit of perspiration and is standing upright normally. And then he keels over form a heart attack and dies. Then picture the same exact scene except the guy is barely standing, huffing and puffing for breath and sweating buckets, and then he keels over from a heart attack and dies.

It isn't about whether either man went through enough to have a heart attack as they went through the same thing. It's about whether the scene showed the effects on each man to where a heart attack seemed a likely outcome. The first guy falling over dead seems out of place because the scene doesn't show us enough signs that the effects of the run on him are so bad that we feel a heart attack is likely.

Same with Theon. It isn't about whether Theon went through enough he could break down like that. It's about whether they showed the events affected him to where it was now a likely outcome. I don't think they did. The moment he gave in just felt incongruous. You could see what they intended, they just failed to show it was affecting him to that degree until all the sudden he's snapped.

How much screen time did/do you want Theon to get?

 

[GregR]

I think people mistakenly believe that they would be incapable of falling so far, I assure you that those people are wrong.

No, that's not the point. It has nothing to do with how much he went through or whether it could be enough to break someone that far. It is about Theon not being shown behaving in ways that would make one say, "what he went through has this guy is ready to completely lose all sense of self".

Instead they showed a guy that you'd say, "what he went through has this guy giving in to stop the pain now, but he's still not that close to completely broken".

ETA: If you want an analogy... picture a scene from some movie where a guy runs a half mile or mile. At the end of it he's not breathing particularly hard and has just a bit of perspiration and is standing upright normally. And then he keels over form a heart attack and dies. Then picture the same exact scene except the guy is barely standing, huffing and puffing for breath and sweating buckets, and then he keels over from a heart attack and dies.

It isn't about whether either man went through enough to have a heart attack as they went through the same thing. It's about whether the scene showed the effects on each man to where a heart attack seemed a likely outcome. The first guy falling over dead seems out of place because the scene doesn't show us enough signs that the effects of the run on him are so bad that we feel a heart attack is likely.

Same with Theon. It isn't about whether Theon went through enough he could break down like that. It's about whether they showed the events affected him to where it was now a likely outcome. I don't think they did. The moment he gave in just felt incongruous. You could see what they intended, they just failed to show it was affecting him to that degree until all the sudden he's snapped.

How much screen time did/do you want Theon to get?

None frankly, I never cared for Theon as a character and the fact he didn't die at Winterfell was disappointing.

But if you are going to show a bunch of events that are meant to break him completely, then when you show those scenes include evidence of his state degrading towards that point. They didn't.

 

[bigbottom]

I think people mistakenly believe that they would be incapable of falling so far, I assure you that those people are wrong.

No, that's not the point. It has nothing to do with how much he went through or whether it could be enough to break someone that far. It is about Theon not being shown behaving in ways that would make one say, "what he went through has this guy is ready to completely lose all sense of self".

Instead they showed a guy that you'd say, "what he went through has this guy giving in to stop the pain now, but he's still not that close to completely broken".

ETA: If you want an analogy... picture a scene from some movie where a guy runs a half mile or mile. At the end of it he's not breathing particularly hard and has just a bit of perspiration and is standing upright normally. And then he keels over form a heart attack and dies. Then picture the same exact scene except the guy is barely standing, huffing and puffing for breath and sweating buckets, and then he keels over from a heart attack and dies.

It isn't about whether either man went through enough to have a heart attack as they went through the same thing. It's about whether the scene showed the effects on each man to where a heart attack seemed a likely outcome. The first guy falling over dead seems out of place because the scene doesn't show us enough signs that the effects of the run on him are so bad that we feel a heart attack is likely.

Same with Theon. It isn't about whether Theon went through enough he could break down like that. It's about whether they showed the events affected him to where it was now a likely outcome. I don't think they did. The moment he gave in just felt incongruous. You could see what they intended, they just failed to show it was affecting him to that degree until all the sudden he's snapped.

How much screen time did/do you want Theon to get?

None frankly, I never cared for Theon as a character and the fact he didn't die at Winterfell was disappointing.

But if you are going to show a bunch of events that are meant to break him completely, then when you show those scenes include evidence of his state degrading towards that point. They didn't.

You saw the scars, which indidcate that more has happened than has been shown on screen. Even if I shared your concern, which I don't really, I wouldn't have any problem filling in the blanks myself. They were doing horrible, horrible stuff to him. It's perfectly logical for him to ultimately be broken to the point that he has, even if we didn't see every stage of it.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

I think people mistakenly believe that they would be incapable of falling so far, I assure you that those people are wrong.

No, that's not the point. It has nothing to do with how much he went through or whether it could be enough to break someone that far. It is about Theon not being shown behaving in ways that would make one say, "what he went through has this guy is ready to completely lose all sense of self".

Instead they showed a guy that you'd say, "what he went through has this guy giving in to stop the pain now, but he's still not that close to completely broken".

ETA: If you want an analogy... picture a scene from some movie where a guy runs a half mile or mile. At the end of it he's not breathing particularly hard and has just a bit of perspiration and is standing upright normally. And then he keels over form a heart attack and dies. Then picture the same exact scene except the guy is barely standing, huffing and puffing for breath and sweating buckets, and then he keels over from a heart attack and dies.

It isn't about whether either man went through enough to have a heart attack as they went through the same thing. It's about whether the scene showed the effects on each man to where a heart attack seemed a likely outcome. The first guy falling over dead seems out of place because the scene doesn't show us enough signs that the effects of the run on him are so bad that we feel a heart attack is likely.

Same with Theon. It isn't about whether Theon went through enough he could break down like that. It's about whether they showed the events affected him to where it was now a likely outcome. I don't think they did. The moment he gave in just felt incongruous. You could see what they intended, they just failed to show it was affecting him to that degree until all the sudden he's snapped.

How much screen time did/do you want Theon to get?

None frankly, I never cared for Theon as a character and the fact he didn't die at Winterfell was disappointing.

But if you are going to show a bunch of events that are meant to break him completely, then when you show those scenes include evidence of his state degrading towards that point. They didn't.

I bet you love movies like Hostel, don't you?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

In the book Theon doesn't look so much like the ******* love child of Roger Daltrey and Mick Jagger.

 

[skol asylum]

So much angst.

Now imagine Reek/Theon was a banker.

 

[Chaka]

I think people mistakenly believe that they would be incapable of falling so far, I assure you that those people are wrong.

No, that's not the point. It has nothing to do with how much he went through or whether it could be enough to break someone that far. It is about Theon not being shown behaving in ways that would make one say, "what he went through has this guy is ready to completely lose all sense of self".

Instead they showed a guy that you'd say, "what he went through has this guy giving in to stop the pain now, but he's still not that close to completely broken".

ETA: If you want an analogy... picture a scene from some movie where a guy runs a half mile or mile. At the end of it he's not breathing particularly hard and has just a bit of perspiration and is standing upright normally. And then he keels over form a heart attack and dies. Then picture the same exact scene except the guy is barely standing, huffing and puffing for breath and sweating buckets, and then he keels over from a heart attack and dies.

It isn't about whether either man went through enough to have a heart attack as they went through the same thing. It's about whether the scene showed the effects on each man to where a heart attack seemed a likely outcome. The first guy falling over dead seems out of place because the scene doesn't show us enough signs that the effects of the run on him are so bad that we feel a heart attack is likely.

Same with Theon. It isn't about whether Theon went through enough he could break down like that. It's about whether they showed the events affected him to where it was now a likely outcome. I don't think they did. The moment he gave in just felt incongruous. You could see what they intended, they just failed to show it was affecting him to that degree until all the sudden he's snapped.

How much screen time did/do you want Theon to get?

None frankly, I never cared for Theon as a character and the fact he didn't die at Winterfell was disappointing.

But if you are going to show a bunch of events that are meant to break him completely, then when you show those scenes include evidence of his state degrading towards that point. They didn't.

You saw the scars, which indidcate that more has happened than has been shown on screen. Even if I shared your concern, which I don't really, I wouldn't have any problem filling in the blanks myself. They were doing horrible, horrible stuff to him. It's perfectly logical for him to ultimately be broken to the point that he has, even if we didn't see every stage of it.

They did a fine job with Theon's fall.

 

[LAUNCH]

I think people mistakenly believe that they would be incapable of falling so far, I assure you that those people are wrong.

No, that's not the point. It has nothing to do with how much he went through or whether it could be enough to break someone that far. It is about Theon not being shown behaving in ways that would make one say, "what he went through has this guy is ready to completely lose all sense of self".

Instead they showed a guy that you'd say, "what he went through has this guy giving in to stop the pain now, but he's still not that close to completely broken".

ETA: If you want an analogy... picture a scene from some movie where a guy runs a half mile or mile. At the end of it he's not breathing particularly hard and has just a bit of perspiration and is standing upright normally. And then he keels over form a heart attack and dies. Then picture the same exact scene except the guy is barely standing, huffing and puffing for breath and sweating buckets, and then he keels over from a heart attack and dies.

It isn't about whether either man went through enough to have a heart attack as they went through the same thing. It's about whether the scene showed the effects on each man to where a heart attack seemed a likely outcome. The first guy falling over dead seems out of place because the scene doesn't show us enough signs that the effects of the run on him are so bad that we feel a heart attack is likely.

Same with Theon. It isn't about whether Theon went through enough he could break down like that. It's about whether they showed the events affected him to where it was now a likely outcome. I don't think they did. The moment he gave in just felt incongruous. You could see what they intended, they just failed to show it was affecting him to that degree until all the sudden he's snapped.

I think the torture they showed, the dog hunting scenes, and the scars on his back gave us enough idea that he was taken to the ringers. His ordeal reminded me of the movie Midnight Express and how far Billy Hayes fell from reality from his years in a Turkish prison. I don't think it would have taken much to have Theon go over the edge, because he was pretty close to it long before he met Ramsay. He was willing to do anything to gain his fathers acceptance and to do everything against his moral compass in that effort, only to get a bone crushing dose of reality from all the iron born, surely didn't help. Theon has been a prisoner most of his life and been treated like a second class citizen and pissed on by everyone, even whores. The only time I can remember him getting true acceptance was when his was on the ship with the captains daughter and despite her being so ugly he wanted her to smile with her lips close yet his ego and his dreams of grandeur were quickly met by a Cersei/Jaimie moment with his sister and a father who treated him like he was a dog. If there was a character who would accept the "Reek" title, it would be Theon.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

In the book Theon doesn't look so much like the ******* love child of Roger Daltrey and Mick Jagger.

Lol Troof

 

[kentric]

Please change the title of the thread to "Discussion of Theon's Member".

Thanks.

 

[NIU Kicker]

Are we really argueing if the fall of Theon had enough screen time? I wanted to rip my eyes out of my head all of last season whenever they showed him tied up to that X.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Are we really argueing if the fall of Theon had enough screen time? I wanted to rip my eyes out of my head all of last season whenever they showed him tied up to that X.

I would take any of those scenes over Bran's scenes myself.

 

[Josie Maran]

You can actually pinpoint the moment when his heart breaks.

 

[Ilov80s]

It's a great show, I enjoy watching it and at times have learned things from it. Just enjoy the ride.

 

[shuke]

I think people mistakenly believe that they would be incapable of falling so far, I assure you that those people are wrong.

No, that's not the point. It has nothing to do with how much he went through or whether it could be enough to break someone that far. It is about Theon not being shown behaving in ways that would make one say, "what he went through has this guy is ready to completely lose all sense of self".

Instead they showed a guy that you'd say, "what he went through has this guy giving in to stop the pain now, but he's still not that close to completely broken".

ETA: If you want an analogy... picture a scene from some movie where a guy runs a half mile or mile. At the end of it he's not breathing particularly hard and has just a bit of perspiration and is standing upright normally. And then he keels over form a heart attack and dies. Then picture the same exact scene except the guy is barely standing, huffing and puffing for breath and sweating buckets, and then he keels over from a heart attack and dies.

It isn't about whether either man went through enough to have a heart attack as they went through the same thing. It's about whether the scene showed the effects on each man to where a heart attack seemed a likely outcome. The first guy falling over dead seems out of place because the scene doesn't show us enough signs that the effects of the run on him are so bad that we feel a heart attack is likely.

Same with Theon. It isn't about whether Theon went through enough he could break down like that. It's about whether they showed the events affected him to where it was now a likely outcome. I don't think they did. The moment he gave in just felt incongruous. You could see what they intended, they just failed to show it was affecting him to that degree until all the sudden he's snapped.

How much screen time did/do you want Theon to get?

None frankly, I never cared for Theon as a character and the fact he didn't die at Winterfell was disappointing.

But if you are going to show a bunch of events that are meant to break him completely, then when you show those scenes include evidence of his state degrading towards that point. They didn't.

 

[Chadstroma]

If you were writing/directing how would you convey theon being broken?

It's tough to convey on screen. They could possibly have devoted a bit less time to the sadistic torture scenes and maybe a little more on scenes involving the psychological aftermath of said torture, but I don't know how compelling that would be.

Yes, exactly. It could maybe be told with another prisoner through whose eyes you see the psychological effects on Theon over time. Or showing him in a cell, dreading more and more the sound of footsteps coming to his cell. Those sorts of things would tell the story much better than the actual torture would.

I think Theon has that Helsinki Syndrome.

I think Thoen has the "holy crap, I was put on the rack and that was prob one of the nicer things that has happened to me over my time with Bolton Jr Syndrome"

 

[Chadstroma]

I have to say, Peter Dinklage knocked it out of the park once again with his delivery.

 

[timschochet]

So here is my order of preference:

1. Anything happening in King's Landing

2. The Eyrie (so long as Sansa and Littlefinger are there.)

3. Daneyris

4. Jon Snow and the Night's Watch

5. Brienne

6. Bran

7. Stannis and the witchy woman

8. Anything to do with Theon

Anyone disagree with this order?

 

[fruity pebbles]

So here is my order of preference:

1. Anything happening in King's Landing

2. The Eyrie (so long as Sansa and Littlefinger are there.)

3. Daneyris

4. Jon Snow and the Night's Watch

5. Brienne

6. Bran

7. Stannis and the witchy woman

8. Anything to do with Theon

Anyone disagree with this order?

Yeah Bran should be about #12.

 

[culdeus]

So here is my order of preference:

1. Anything happening in King's Landing

2. The Eyrie (so long as Sansa and Littlefinger are there.)

3. Daneyris

4. Jon Snow and the Night's Watch

5. Brienne

6. Bran

7. Stannis and the witchy woman

8. Anything to do with Theon

Anyone disagree with this order?

Dany overrated imo.

 

[The Ref]

So here is my order of preference:

1. Anything happening in King's Landing

2. The Eyrie (so long as Sansa and Littlefinger are there.)

3. Daneyris

4. Jon Snow and the Night's Watch

5. Brienne

6. Bran

7. Stannis and the witchy woman

8. Anything to do with Theon

Anyone disagree with this order?

Anything Kings Landing is a tad vague, but I cant disagree with it.

 

[Thunderlips]

So here is my order of preference:

1. Anything happening in King's Landing

2. The Eyrie (so long as Sansa and Littlefinger are there.)

3. Daneyris

4. Jon Snow and the Night's Watch

5. Brienne

6. Bran

7. Stannis and the witchy woman

8. Anything to do with Theon

Anyone disagree with this order?

Yes.

 

[gump]

I thought the Shae portion of that scene was weak.

Her acting was really bad.

But also...unless something is missing...she turned on Her Lion way too easily.

 

[G5781]

So here is my order of preference:

1. Anything happening in King's Landing

2. The Eyrie (so long as Sansa and Littlefinger are there.)

3. Daneyris

4. Jon Snow and the Night's Watch

5. Brienne

6. Bran

7. Stannis and the witchy woman

8. Anything to do with Theon

Anyone disagree with this order?

You forgot the hound and arya which I would put at #2 or #3. I cant stand Stannis and that whole storyline so he's dead last but overall, you got it just about right.

 

[KarmaPolice]

So here is my order of preference:

1. Anything happening in King's Landing

2. The Eyrie (so long as Sansa and Littlefinger are there.)

3. Daneyris

4. Jon Snow and the Night's Watch

5. Brienne

6. Bran

7. Stannis and the witchy woman

8. Anything to do with Theon

Anyone disagree with this order?

My question to you is how much interest do you have in each level ? I think part of the reason this season feels subpar to me is all the characters I find interesting are all in the same spot, so if we don't spend a good chunk of time in King's Landing I start getting a little twitchy.

My preference would be:

1. Kings Landing: damn near all the good characters are here - Tyrion, Tywin, Jamie, Bronn, Oberyn, Lady Olenna

2. Arya/The Hound - I like her development, and he is good for some one liners

3. Littlefinger is one of my favorites, so wherever he is

4. Jon and the Night's Watch (this probably drops a rank or two is Sam/Gilly are staring at each other)

5. Brienne/Podrick - more of the same with her, but I like Pod

6. Dany - same thing, different city. Feels like she is never going to get anywhere interesting

7. Reek/Ramsay - mainly because of the acting involved

8. Stannis story - I do like Davos and a couple side characters, but Stannis is horrible

9. Bran

 

[KarmaPolice]

It's a great show, I enjoy watching it and at times have learned things from it. Just enjoy the ride.

What have you learned from Game of Thrones?

 

[Chaka]

I am not sure how people are ranking this but, regardless of whether or not I like the characters or the actors, I am very curious about what exactly is happening north of the wall. Seems like whenever the White Walkers make their move it will have a dramatic impact on everything happening south of the wall.

In King's Landing they are already talking about dealing with Daenerys and her dragons but no one seems to have any clue that something very, very bad is coming out of the North.

 

[skol asylum]

It's a great show, I enjoy watching it and at times have learned things from it. Just enjoy the ride.

What have you learned from Game of Thrones?

Check your wedding party for concealed knives.

 

[Northern Voice]

This season has been really slow, IMO. I know I'm not the first one to say it. I think it's that there are so many impending physical threats (White Walkers, Dany, Stannis) but they haven't moved at all. The focus has been more on the soap opera aspects of the show... which I enjoy but when you have a short season to start with, so much talk an so little action makes it feel like it's being dragged out.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I am not sure how people are ranking this but, regardless of whether or not I like the characters or the actors, I am very curious about what exactly is happening north of the wall. Seems like whenever the White Walkers make their move it will have a dramatic impact on everything happening south of the wall.

In King's Landing they are already talking about dealing with Daenerys and her dragons but no one seems to have any clue that something very, very bad is coming out of the North.

I agree about the threat north of the wall, but also feel like they have teased it since scene 1 of the show without much developing since.

could be the point- make us forget just like the people of westeros, and then... Bam!

 

[bostonfred]

It's a great show, I enjoy watching it and at times have learned things from it. Just enjoy the ride.

What have you learned from Game of Thrones?

Check your wedding party for concealed knives.

In retrospect a red wedding would have been quicker and less painful.

 

[The General]

I am not sure how people are ranking this but, regardless of whether or not I like the characters or the actors, I am very curious about what exactly is happening north of the wall. Seems like whenever the White Walkers make their move it will have a dramatic impact on everything happening south of the wall.

In King's Landing they are already talking about dealing with Daenerys and her dragons but no one seems to have any clue that something very, very bad is coming out of the North.

This is the one of the few dumb parts of the show, they love teasing the white wakers then don't show them again for 5 episodes.

At the end of one of the seasons they showed the massive group of white walkers within site of the wall. That was a long time ago. They either are walking around in circles, are camping, or are piled up at the base of the wall marching in place like the marching band at the end of Animal House.

 

[G5781]

I am not sure how people are ranking this but, regardless of whether or not I like the characters or the actors, I am very curious about what exactly is happening north of the wall. Seems like whenever the White Walkers make their move it will have a dramatic impact on everything happening south of the wall.

In King's Landing they are already talking about dealing with Daenerys and her dragons but no one seems to have any clue that something very, very bad is coming out of the North.

This is the one of the few dumb parts of the show, they love teasing the white wakers then don't show them again for 5 episodes.

At the end of one of the seasons they showed the massive group of white walkers within site of the wall. That was a long time ago. They either are walking around in circles, are camping, or are piled up at the base of the wall marching in place like the marching band at the end of Animal House.

I'm probably in the minority, but I really like how the white walkers are sort of a looming threat and havent been brought to the forefront. I prefer the politics and jockeying of position related to the throne. I think the walkers will attack at the end of the series since they are hyping them up so much, there is no way the nights watch and/Stannis army can do it alone.

After all the bickering over the throne and that story plays out, it will be how the white walkers will be dealt with. I feel like it will end with the country uniting to fight the much bigger war and that will be how the series ends. Thats the end game, the war between the walkers and westeros. Dany and her dragons will probably play a big part in that. So i think thats why we get little snippets of them throughout the series so we dont forget about them. They will play their role, I just think it will be during the last season.

 

[dickey moe]

my favorite line from last night was when Tywin was speaking to Jaime:

"...you will marry a proper woman, father some children named Lannister..."

pops knows what's up.

Who doesn't?

Hodor.

LOL

 

[dickey moe]

Look I am not an expert on torture or anything.

I am - let me tell you from experience that getting your #### cut off really, really hurts!

 

[dickey moe]

I thought the whole rescuing Theon scene was very dumb. First they build it up with this great speech by his sister and youre getting all amped for the rescue and then all Ramsay does is unlock the gates with the dogs and they run away with their tails between their legs like little #####es? They had swords. Are dogs immune to getting stabbed? Also Ramsay is fighting with no armor and survives? Yet they kill all his armored guards? He must be the best fighter in Westeros.

There were quite a few logistical problems with that whole scenario.

I refuse to believe they had dogs back in dinosaur times.

Dimetrodon down?

 

[bostonfred]

My ranking:

Funny Tyrion (last seen in season two)

Scenes with Hodor's bare half giant hog

Danaerys (naked)

Arya

Tywin

Cougar Lannister eating crow

The sell sword guy

Scenes where Dormer's cleavage is visible but the rest of her boobs aren't

The Hound

Cranky grandma

That smoking redhead who said you know nothing Jon Snow

The French rapist

Creepy old guy who hosted the red wedding

Creepy torture kid

Creepy torture kid's dad

Cougar Lannister being all #####y

Hodor with his penis covered

The bald guy with no penis

The blond guy with one hand

The giant blond girl with no penis

The curly haired guy with no penis

The kid with the giant penis

Littlepenis

Danaerys (not naked)

Theon's sister

Zombies

Scenes where Dormer shows her disappointing boobs

The other redhead who keeps getting #### on

Teary-on Lannister (the crappy version that replaced the good one when he met Shae)

The big dogs

Any non hot wildling

That fat kid and his ugly girlfriend at the wall making eyes at each other

The cannibals eating crow

CGI dragons

Any scene with Shae and her ####ty fake accent

 

[Northern Voice]

Big dogs should be higher, imo