Game Thread W3 - New England V Buffalo (1 Viewer)

[Run It Up]

Yes, you do, if someone is shorter and a normal tackle will cause a bad hit yes.

Since when are safety rules designed only for above average sized players, its a universal standard had he made an attempt at all, they wouldnt have flagged him, it was because he made no attempt at all to not cause helmet-to-helmet contact that he even was flagged.

you're arguing for a call they didn't even make.he caught the ball, turned upfield, and braced for the hit.

This never happened.He caught the ball, landed and was met immediately by the defender.

I never said he was flagged for helmet-to-helmet I said he was flagged for leading with the helmet, if he had tackled him lower he wouldnt have been flagged.

 

[dharmapunk]

Yes, you do, if someone is shorter and a normal tackle will cause a bad hit yes.

Since when are safety rules designed only for above average sized players, its a universal standard had he made an attempt at all, they wouldnt have flagged him, it was because he made no attempt at all to not cause helmet-to-helmet contact that he even was flagged.

you're arguing for a call they didn't even make.he caught the ball, turned upfield, and braced for the hit.

This never happened.He caught the ball, landed and was met immediately by the defender.

I never said he was flagged for helmet-to-helmet I said he was flagged for leading with the helmet, if he had tackled him lower he wouldnt have been flagged.

I can't decide is this guy is for reals or an alias on a fishing trip.

 

[Run It Up]

Yes, you do, if someone is shorter and a normal tackle will cause a bad hit yes.

Since when are safety rules designed only for above average sized players, its a universal standard had he made an attempt at all, they wouldnt have flagged him, it was because he made no attempt at all to not cause helmet-to-helmet contact that he even was flagged.

you're arguing for a call they didn't even make.he caught the ball, turned upfield, and braced for the hit.

This never happened.He caught the ball, landed and was met immediately by the defender.

I never said he was flagged for helmet-to-helmet I said he was flagged for leading with the helmet, if he had tackled him lower he wouldnt have been flagged.

I can't decide is this guy is for reals or an alias on a fishing trip.

great contribution to this thread.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

screenshots of the Welker play.

http://imageshack.us/f/850/welker1.jpg/

Welker has the ball in possession and is looking right at Byrd.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/welker2.jpg/

Welker crouches way down to protect himself against the big hit that he knows is coming.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/welker3.jpg/

Byrd went low b/c Welker went low but majority of the contact was with his shoulder.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Yes, you do, if someone is shorter and a normal tackle will cause a bad hit yes.

Since when are safety rules designed only for above average sized players, its a universal standard had he made an attempt at all, they wouldnt have flagged him, it was because he made no attempt at all to not cause helmet-to-helmet contact that he even was flagged.

you're arguing for a call they didn't even make.he caught the ball, turned upfield, and braced for the hit.

This never happened.

Yes it did. He's looking directly at Byrd when he's tackled.

 

[Angus82]

screenshots of the Welker play.http://imageshack.us/f/850/welker1.jpg/Welker has the ball in possession and is looking right at Byrd.http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/welker2.jpg/Welker crouches way down to protect himself against the big hit that he knows is coming.http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/welker3.jpg/Byrd went low b/c Welker went low but majority of the contact was with his shoulder.

Thanx for the pics. No question that it is a legal hit. Goodell and his whores need to stop trying to make this game soccer.

 

[HellToupee]

oh the horror....... helmets made contact on that end around

but then again the Patriot was on the giving end so no

 

[Steve Tasker]

screenshots of the Welker play.http://imageshack.us/f/850/welker1.jpg/Welker has the ball in possession and is looking right at Byrd.http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/welker2.jpg/Welker crouches way down to protect himself against the big hit that he knows is coming.http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/welker3.jpg/Byrd went low b/c Welker went low but majority of the contact was with his shoulder.

wned:

 

[Run It Up]

Yes, you do, if someone is shorter and a normal tackle will cause a bad hit yes.

Since when are safety rules designed only for above average sized players, its a universal standard had he made an attempt at all, they wouldnt have flagged him, it was because he made no attempt at all to not cause helmet-to-helmet contact that he even was flagged.

you're arguing for a call they didn't even make.he caught the ball, turned upfield, and braced for the hit.

This never happened.

Yes it did. He's looking directly at Byrd when he's tackled.

I bolded that part for a reason, he was facing upfield when he landed there was no turn up field that implied this tackle didnt happen immediately after landing.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Yes, you do, if someone is shorter and a normal tackle will cause a bad hit yes.

Since when are safety rules designed only for above average sized players, its a universal standard had he made an attempt at all, they wouldnt have flagged him, it was because he made no attempt at all to not cause helmet-to-helmet contact that he even was flagged.

you're arguing for a call they didn't even make.he caught the ball, turned upfield, and braced for the hit.

This never happened.

Yes it did. He's looking directly at Byrd when he's tackled.

I bolded that part for a reason, he was facing upfield when he landed there was no turn up field that implied this tackle didnt happen immediately after landing.

Okay, so we agree that Welker saw the hit coming and braced himself for it. Therefore, there should not be a call for tackling a "defenseless" receiver.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

McLovin with the pick.

 

[Angus82]

McKelvin!!! Way to pick off Brady. Nice undercut.

 

[dharmapunk]

screenshots of the Welker play.http://imageshack.us/f/850/welker1.jpg/Welker has the ball in possession and is looking right at Byrd.http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/welker2.jpg/Welker crouches way down to protect himself against the big hit that he knows is coming.http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/welker3.jpg/Byrd went low b/c Welker went low but majority of the contact was with his shoulder.

This is some epic pwnage here. I wouldn't have bothered.

 

[Run It Up]

Yes, you do, if someone is shorter and a normal tackle will cause a bad hit yes.

Since when are safety rules designed only for above average sized players, its a universal standard had he made an attempt at all, they wouldnt have flagged him, it was because he made no attempt at all to not cause helmet-to-helmet contact that he even was flagged.

you're arguing for a call they didn't even make.he caught the ball, turned upfield, and braced for the hit.

This never happened.

Yes it did. He's looking directly at Byrd when he's tackled.

I bolded that part for a reason, he was facing upfield when he landed there was no turn up field that implied this tackle didnt happen immediately after landing.

Okay, so we agree that Welker saw the hit coming

I agree with this - not much else. We'll see in the next day or sooner what really happened I called it like I saw it, assuming thats what the refs did too.Great game so far, Eagles/Giants game is good so far, hoping the Pack Bears game wont dissapoint.

 

[HellToupee]

why run up the middle with Smith when you have Freddy

 

[griff321]

I see that was to Ocho...who would you guys say that pick is on?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Fitz 233 vs Brady 223

 

[Green and Gold]

That pick just goes to show you that so much of brady's long run without an int has a lot to do with his receivers.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Brady picked off on two straight passes. Ouch.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

That pick just goes to show you that so much of brady's long run without an int has a lot to do with his receivers.

I think Tom had something to do with it

 

[Neofight]

I see that was to Ocho...who would you guys say that pick is on?

85 rounded his route, and looked very lazy doing it.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I wonder if we'll see Ryan Mallet if Brady continues to struggle.

 

[Green and Gold]

That pick just goes to show you that so much of brady's long run without an int has a lot to do with his receivers.

I think Tom had something to do with it

Nah, he's a jag.

 

[Angus82]

Freddy is a beast!!! Nice run.

 

[Neofight]

That pick just goes to show you that so much of brady's long run without an int has a lot to do with his receivers.

It goes to show why Ocho has not been a larger part of this offense, certainly.

 

[Steve Tasker]

####### Chandler

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Somebody missed a defensive assignment on that one.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

great coverage.

love the spread offense.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Scott Chandler has 4 TDs...might give Gronk a run for his money on the season.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Chandler on pace for a 20 TD season. Him and Gronk headed to Honolulu.

 

[Romofan]

Chandler's streak is alive!!!

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Somebody missed a defensive assignment on that one.

I prefer to call it separation

 

[HellToupee]

David Nelson had only 46 receptions for 630 yards in his Florida career . How did that happen

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

David Nelson had only 46 receptions for 630 yards in his Florida career . How did that happen

Tim Tebow was the QB

 

[Angus82]

I guess I can wait to watch the Sabres. Chandler!! I know that I am old but does anyone remember Bob Chandler?? Another great Bills receiver.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

If Todd Haley had kept Chan Gailey instead of firing him before the season started 2 years ago...

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Sick catch by Gronk.

 

[Run It Up]

Gronk continuing to Gronk

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

HUGE stop there by the defense.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Gostkowski with the rare FG attempt, usually just 6 PATs.

 

[Run It Up]

HUGE stop there by the defense.

Bill D has been playing very well so far this year.

 

[Angus82]

Gostkowski with the rare FG attempt, usually just 6 PATs.

That just shows the depth of the Bills D. (Yes, tongue is firmly in cheek)

 

[Run It Up]

Welkers 11th reception, great route underneath an Ocho crossing route.

23 yards, majority after the catch, broke a tackle and shed another.

Bills defender Williams injured on the play, looked like another Bills defender landed oddly on Williams neck.

 

[Green94]

BJGE hurt? Where has he been? Anyone that is watching, tia.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

BJGE hurt? Where has he been? Anyone that is watching, tia.

Patriots passing a lot and have mostly had Woodhead in there since the Bills mounted their comeback. Didn't like their chances running against the Bills front I guess.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Is Green-Ellis hurt?

Haven't seen any carries in a while.

 

[Run It Up]

BJGE hurt? Where has he been? Anyone that is watching, tia.

I dont believe so, they are just opting for more utility in the backfield.Woodhead almost every play, oddly enough been seeing Edelmen out of the back field, couple end-arounds and even a handoff out of the backfield.BJGE just ran down the middle for 5.

 

[Green94]

BJGE hurt? Where has he been? Anyone that is watching, tia.

Patriots passing a lot and have mostly had Woodhead in there since the Bills mounted their comeback. Didn't like their chances running against the Bills front I guess.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

BJGE just got a carry after the injury delay

 

[eakfootball]

Really hope Williams is ok