Game Thread W4 - Denver V Tennessee (1 Viewer)

[thatguy]

Maroney is downright awful, and McD keeping him as much as he did is a pure ego move. Maroney is his guy and he wants to prove that he made a good trade, and he is doing so to the detriment of the team. Moreno needs to get healthy so we can finally put an end to the Maroney experiment.

 

[SSOG]

Maroney is downright awful, and McD keeping him as much as he did is a pure ego move. Maroney is his guy and he wants to prove that he made a good trade, and he is doing so to the detriment of the team. Moreno needs to get healthy so we can finally put an end to the Maroney experiment.

Come on, you're accusing Josh McDaniels of keeping a guy on the team because he wants to save face after trading for him? Seriously? That's the card you're playing? Do I really need to bring up Alphonso Smith, here?

 

[Courtjester]

Well you are completely wrong, but we won't have to debate that because of the Buck TD. Now Denver needs to just hold....

You seem awfully certain of that. You got any support for that position outside of your gut?I see four possible outcomes of that situation.#1- Kick the field goal and make it#2- Kick the field goal and miss it#3- go for it and make it#4- go for it and miss it.Situation #2 and #4 are essentially identical (actually, situation #4 is ever so slightly better because Tennessee has worse starting field position), so it then becomes a question of how likely is situation #1 and how likely is situation #3.Matt Prater has an 85% career conversion percentage from that distance (it would have been a 30 yarder, and Prater has hit 80% from 29-30 and 90% from 30-40). Meanwhile, as I said, I'd suspect that QB sneaks have at least 85% success rate on 4th and inches (I'd love to see data on this if anyone has it, but from what I've seen the play is essentially unstoppable). So, both situation #1 and situation #3 would be pretty equally likely. Maybe situation #1 is slightly more likely, but either way it's pretty close, and the outcome of situation #3 is SUBSTANTIALLY more valuable. Hugely so."Taking the points" is all well and good, but I really and truly believe that a statistical look at the decision would show that Josh McDaniels easily made the right call. McDaniels takes a lot of crap (and I sling my fair share of it), but any criticism of that decision is, in my opinion, wholly undeserved.

Of course any criticism is undeserved, they won.No offense, but how could either of us have proof. We both are discussing hypotheticals . The bottom line is Denver won and we can play what if all day long.So what if: Denver took the FG, kicks off and the D did what it did by keeping Tenn at a 3 and out, Denver gets the ball back where they did and that PI call doesn't happen, they were okay, all they needed was a FG to win.There is no way either of us can prove ourselves right or the other wrong, all we can be is happy they won because the next 2 games are tough and I would be happy to just win one of themDenver needs a running game--bottom line.

 

[Buffaloes]

Maroney is downright awful, and McD keeping him as much as he did is a pure ego move. Maroney is his guy and he wants to prove that he made a good trade, and he is doing so to the detriment of the team. Moreno needs to get healthy so we can finally put an end to the Maroney experiment.

I agree that Maroney does not look good at all. And what is with the OL? I'm not sure how much worse Beadles can be than Stanley Daniels at LG. There are no running lanes. Nice win, but 50 passes a game isn't going to cut it in December. Got to get the runninggame going and that starts with geting Moreno back and getting some push from the OL. Big win today though.

 

[SSOG]

Of course any criticism is undeserved, they won.

No offense, but how could either of us have proof. We both are discussing hypotheticals . The bottom line is Denver won and we can play what if all day long.

So what if: Denver took the FG, kicks off and the D did what it did by keeping Tenn at a 3 and out, Denver gets the ball back where they did and that PI call doesn't happen, they were okay, all they needed was a FG to win.

There is no way either of us can prove ourselves right or the other wrong, all we can be is happy they won because the next 2 games are tough and I would be happy to just win one of them

Denver needs a running game--bottom line.

I hate that line of thinking. If a call is the right call, it's the right call whether it works or not. If a call is the wrong call, it's the wrong call whether it works or not. Even if it worked, if it was the wrong call, then McDaniels deserves criticism. Even if it failed, if it was the right call, then McDaniels deserves praise.But in this case, it was the right call.