Eviloutsider
Footballguy
Wash? Wish? Either way, I don't care. I am not a Bronco or a Patriot fan.
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Game Thread W5 - New England V Denver (1 Viewer)
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
This is true.I hate the college overtime system, too, and it would ruin fantasy football if the NFL adopted it.It's terrible.
J Andersson
Footballguy
Denver deserves a lot of praise for sure but I'm amazed about the lack of in-game coaching adjustments (going with what works) from BB and crew.
Suddenly we pressure Orton and it works - overtime we play loose and get picked apart...
Great game Denver! New England, well it saddens me to say it but, unfortunately we're not very good at the moment! (And now we drew another stupid penalty, OMG!)
Suddenly we pressure Orton and it works - overtime we play loose and get picked apart...
Great game Denver! New England, well it saddens me to say it but, unfortunately we're not very good at the moment! (And now we drew another stupid penalty, OMG!)
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
That 5-yd penalty is huge here.
OK, but it still wasn't a penalty.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Orton has outplayed every QB he's faced this year [inc Brady/Palmer/Romo]
BoulderBob
Footballguy
Not sure what McD is thinking with these throws, Orton doesn't usually put them in good spots..
Eviloutsider
Footballguy
I disagree, even before their legs were tangled, the CB was getting handsy.
Nah, you would just have "Regulation Time Stats Only" leagues.This is true.I hate the college overtime system, too, and it would ruin fantasy football if the NFL adopted it.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
It would be easy enough to not count OT stats in fantasy.I hate the college overtime system, too, and it would ruin fantasy football if the NFL adopted it.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Wow. Denver's for real.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
It's supposed to be a safe play. It was just an awful throw. Put it high and outside where either the WR or no one catches it.
J Andersson
Footballguy
Congrats Denver! New England better go back and learn something or this will be a long season!
MCguidance
Footballguy
Big fan of the first to 4 points wins OT.Wow McDaniels is going nuts. 5-0 will do that to you.I hate the college overtime system, too, and it would ruin fantasy football if the NFL adopted it.
SSOG
Moderator
Marshall was playing the ball, just like the CB. No OPI, just a quality pass breakup on BMarsh.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Neck Beard = Winner
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
5-0. Wow. Wow. Wow.
SSOG
Moderator
Even still, it completely eliminates special teams, which are kind of sort of a big part of actual football. I like the "first to four" OT system.
It's a safe play when your QB isn't Kyle Orton. I don't know if he CAN put it high and outside there.Of course, I don't really care what the process is when the result is a W.
SSOG
Moderator
Completely agree. I think the highlight of the end of the season for me is going to be all the crow I have to swallow.
I'd been saying all along that the Broncos improved this offseason. Sometimes I really hate being right.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Unlike a lot of people on this forum, and on the internet in general, I have no problem admitting when I am dead wrong about something. I was dead wrong about Josh McDaniels. The guy is doing a great job.
Now, I am off to swallow some crow. 
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Enjoy it now SSOG, the magic carpet ride comes to a crashing halt next Monday night.Completely agree. I think the highlight of the end of the season for me is going to be all the crow I have to swallow.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Well, it is a virtual must-win for Norv Turner and his .500 team. They can't afford to fall three games back in the loss column to a powerhouse like the Broncos.Enjoy it now SSOG, the magic carpet ride comes to a crashing halt next Monday night.Completely agree. I think the highlight of the end of the season for me is going to be all the crow I have to swallow.
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KoolKat
Footballguy
Stupid play-call, should have ran it up the gut.
ThinGrayLine
Footballguy
In case it hasnt been said, the Pats should never have stopped wearing that helmet.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Love those old Patriots unis. On the flip side, the Broncos old unis...not so much.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
The brown and yellow vertically striped stockings are awesomeness.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I knew someone would bring this up. It eliminates PART of special teams (last I checked, kicking a field goal was still special teams), whereas the current system eliminates OFFENSE and DEFENSE 30% of the time, which are a much bigger part of football than punting.Yes, with college rules Brett Kern would have never seen the field in overtime. In the current system Tom Brady, Randy Moss, and Champ Bailey never saw the field.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Meh, he intentionally went through the guy's back to get there. If a defender does the same thing, it's called PI. When the defender has position you can't just bowl him over any more than a defender can do to a WR that has position.
SSOG
Moderator
But they COULD HAVE. Typical football is a game of field position- get the ball, move it, try to score, if you fail pin the other team deep. Then they try to move the ball, try to score, and pin the other team deep. Sure, Brady never saw the field in the overtime period... but there have been entire quarters where the offense hasn't seen the field because the other team's offense was so good at ball control (think Dolphins/Colts earlier this season, Broncos/Jets in '05, or Broncos/Colts in '02). It's still NFL football... it's just sudden-death NFL football.I don't think sudden death is the best way to go (go go first to 4!), but it's a heck of a lot better than the college system, which isn't actually football at all- it's just a glorified red zone scrimmage. And how would your argument work when the guy kept off the field was Devin Hester, Josh Cribbs, or Johnnie Lee Higgins?Besides, the biggest complaint about sudden death is that it's not fair to the team that loses the coinflip... but the college system is even *MORE* unfair to the team that loses the flip. I'd bet the team that wins the flip in college has a higher win% than the team that wins the flip in the pros.
He reached around the defender to play the ball. It's perfectly legal, whether you're on offense or defense. Think back to Tyrone Prothro's ridiculous grab in college a few years back.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Lost in all of this chatter is the fact that the Denver Broncos still own the New England Patriots. For as long as I can remember, the Broncos always beat the Patriots (except for last year and 2003 when the Broncos were starting Danny Kannel).
SSOG
Moderator
Well, we don't know if Denver owns NE, or if Shanahan owned NE. McDaniels is off to a good start, though.
Further reading:SUPPLEMENTAL NOTES
(1) Avoiding the kicker is a primary responsibility of defensive players if they do not touch the
kick.
(2) Any contact with the kicker by a single defensive player who has not touched the kick is run-
ning into the kicker.
(3) Any unnecessary roughness committed by defensive players is roughing the kicker.
Severity of contact and potential for injury are to be considered.
(4) When two defensive players are making a bona fide attempt to block a kick from scrim-
mage (punt, drop kick, and/or placekick) and one of them runs into the kicker after the kick
has left the kicker’s foot at the same instant the second player blocks the kick, the foul for
running into the kicker shall not be enforced, unless in the judgment of the Referee, the play-
er running into the kicker was clearly the direct cause of the kick being blocked.
(5) If in the judgment of the Referee any of the above action is unnecessary roughness, the penal-
ty for roughing the kicker shall be enforced from the previous spot as a foul during a kick.
Wow. Congrats, Denver fans. Your team played better today and deserved the win. Coming back from that deficit and closing it out is something Brady & Co. usually do.
Brady needs a few more weeks shaking that rust off. Very weird watching this guy overthrow and miss his receivers.
Brady needs a few more weeks shaking that rust off. Very weird watching this guy overthrow and miss his receivers.
And in that game it was a last minute TD that Deltha O'Neal coughed up after Belichick opted for a given safety by snapping a punt thru the endzone on their previous possession where we'd pinned them just about on the goalline. Never seen that before or since but it was masterful.
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