Game Thread W9 - New England V Indianapolis (1 Viewer)

[timschochet]

I hate to say it because I root against the Pats, but next time it won't be as close. Indy benefited from some poor officiating in my opinion. They played great defense, but in the end Moss was just too much. I don't see anyone stopping New England now. They will not lose this season and will go down as the greatest team ever. Don't like it much, but gotta tell it like it is...

 

[Boston]

The most frustrating part of this game was the Patriot playcalling for about 3/4 of the game. Just piss-poor. It played right to the strength of the Indy defense and was often predictable. The Pats are talented enough that they should stick to what they do well. Also, in a game like this you put the ball in the hands of your studs.

This game was won by the Patriot D. It often wasn't pretty but they held Indy to 20 points at home. I don't care who's hurt or healthy that's a solid effort. They kept the game within reach so when the O got their head out of their butt they could win it.

 

[OrtonToOlsen]

I hate to say it because I root against the Pats, but next time it won't be as close. Insy benefited from some poor officiating in my opinion. They played great defense, but in the end Moss was just too much. I don't see anyone stopping New England now. Tey will not lose this season and will go down as the greatest team ever. Don't like it much, but gotta tell it like it is...

Say hi to moobers for me.

 

[Pat Patriot]

rematch will be good, as long as the Colts find some WR's.. without Harrison.

I'll have to rewatch but were there that many drops by Colts WR's? Manning certainly wasnt other worldly like in the AFC championship game. The Pats with their great receivers had a few drops today as well (mainly Moss).

 

[Boston]

at Belichick being a hard### while shaking hands with Dungy. The guy probably goes home and kicks the dog for fun.

I wasn't paying attention. He blew Dungy off?

Don't know if he blew him off but he had a look on his face like Dungy had just spit on his mother.

When someone compares you to Barry Bonds you tend to not want to swap spit with him and pretend it didn't happen.

Good point. When you get caught cheating nobody should say anything about it.

He has every right to. BB did what he did. Yet. I don't think BB's going to be all touchy feely with him after he does.

I just thought the look on Bill's face was hilarious. Like when a little kid wants to show you that they're mad. :

I swear by the guy as a coach. He's as good as there is or ever will be. Yet, he's never going to win a personality contest and in fairness to him he aint trying. He is what he is...a great coach who only cares about winning.

 

[Finless]

rematch will be good, as long as the Colts find some WR's.. without Harrison.

The Patriots have won for years with a patchwork of receivers. Not one touching the talent of Wayne.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Half- time, video camera influenced, adjustments for the win!

 

[Pat Patriot]

The most frustrating part of this game was the Patriot playcalling for about 3/4 of the game. Just piss-poor. It played right to the strength of the Indy defense and was often predictable. The Pats are talented enough that they should stick to what they do well. Also, in a game like this you put the ball in the hands of your studs.This game was won by the Patriot D. It often wasn't pretty but they held Indy to 20 points at home. I don't care who's hurt or healthy that's a solid effort. They kept the game within reach so when the O got their head out of their butt they could win it.

I was saying that the whole game. The played like they were afraid of the Indy rush and were just playing to keep it close.

 

[Eric]

belichick is a tool...didn't even give Dungy the time of day. dungy tried to talk to him and he just walked away.what a jackass.

I agree, Dungy is a jackass. He should keep his mouth shut and just be thankful Manning gets the benefit of the worst PI calls I've ever seen.

Dungy should keep his mouth shut instead of congratulating BB? Not everybody is an ####### like BB. He was being respectful, something Pats fans, coaches, and players know nothing about.

Way to be a man there, billieve. That's a good sport of you.

 

[encaitar]

rematch will be good, as long as the Colts find some WR's.. without Harrison.

The Patriots have won for years with a patchwork of receivers. Not one touching the talent of Wayne.

Nor did they ever have starting recievers as bad as Moorehead. Stonehands deluxe.

 

[harrycarey]

rematch will be good, as long as the Colts find some WR's.. without Harrison.

I'll have to rewatch but were there that many drops by Colts WR's? Manning certainly wasnt other worldly like in the AFC championship game. The Pats with their great receivers had a few drops today as well (mainly Moss).

Mainly the Gonzo dropped TD and the Moorehead drop late.... maybe a few more sprinkled in...I don't remember many drops by Moss, there were a couple of close ones, but they looked more like bad throws

 

[Boston]

The most frustrating part of this game was the Patriot playcalling for about 3/4 of the game. Just piss-poor. It played right to the strength of the Indy defense and was often predictable. The Pats are talented enough that they should stick to what they do well. Also, in a game like this you put the ball in the hands of your studs.This game was won by the Patriot D. It often wasn't pretty but they held Indy to 20 points at home. I don't care who's hurt or healthy that's a solid effort. They kept the game within reach so when the O got their head out of their butt they could win it.

I was saying that the whole game. The played like they were afraid of the Indy rush and were just playing to keep it close.

Also, some of those play-fakes were foolish (and akward). Indy's very fast up front and this gave them an extra second or two to get to Brady because they weren't biting. Just get in the damn shotgun and get the ball in the hands of your playmakers.

 

[ffball-novice]

rematch will be good, as long as the Colts find some WR's.. without Harrison.

I'll have to rewatch but were there that many drops by Colts WR's? Manning certainly wasnt other worldly like in the AFC championship game. The Pats with their great receivers had a few drops today as well (mainly Moss).

Yes there were a Lot more drops than Colts are used to. But remember that when throwing to Harrison, Wayne and Clark you get few drops. Moorhead is there #4 receiver becuase he drops so much. Pats took away best options per normal and made throws to best recievers tough resulkting in more drops and then there was Moorehead as the other option.Probably not a lot of drops compared to what some other teams regularly experience regularly.

 

[Boston]

rematch will be good, as long as the Colts find some WR's.. without Harrison.

The Patriots have won for years with a patchwork of receivers. Not one touching the talent of Wayne.

Nor did they ever have starting recievers as bad as Moorehead. Stonehands deluxe.

Get last year's AFC championship game tape and watch the drops of their #1 WR...

 

[Devius]

im not an indy or pats fan but why should we find that surprising?...we all know BB is an #######... that sort of thing should be expected. tbh i can see things going alot different in the playoffs when these two meet again. patriots werent even close to how dominate they were suppose to be in this game. i really do think a healthy harrison would have been a huge difference in this game.

 

[Red Apples]

The Pats won.

they had a pretty bad game plan but in the 4th they found their game.

now if they can just stop running up the score against the really bad teams, i think we should all be able to acknowledge the Pats as the best team in the NFL.

cant wait for the reamtch

 

[Bill Lust]

Great game - I think it is going to be a HUGE challenge for Indy to regroup after an emotionally draining loss and face SD on the road next week in another nationally televised game. It will be interesting to see how they respond.

 

[roadkill1292]

at Belichick being a hard### while shaking hands with Dungy. The guy probably goes home and kicks the dog for fun.

I wasn't paying attention. He blew Dungy off?

Don't know if he blew him off but he had a look on his face like Dungy had just spit on his mother.

When someone compares you to Barry Bonds you tend to not want to swap spit with him and pretend it didn't happen.

Good point. When you get caught cheating nobody should say anything about it.

He has every right to. BB did what he did. Yet. I don't think BB's going to be all touchy feely with him after he does.

I just thought the look on Bill's face was hilarious. Like when a little kid wants to show you that they're mad. :

I swear by the guy as a coach. He's as good as there is or ever will be. Yet, he's never going to win a personality contest and in fairness to him he aint trying. He is what he is...a great coach who only cares about winning.

He's the most socially inept public figure I've ever seen. And I think he knows it and has stopped giving a damn. It makes him easy to hate but, coupled with his amazing success, it also makes him pretty interesting.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

The Pats won.

they had a pretty bad game plan but in the 4th they found their game.

now if they can just stop running up the score against the really bad teams, i think we should all be able to acknowledge the Pats as the best team in the NFL.

cant wait for the reamtch

I think everyone already knows they're the best team in the NFL. The question is whether they're the best team in NFL history.

 

[Bill Lust]

rematch will be good, as long as the Colts find some WR's.. without Harrison.

The Patriots have won for years with a patchwork of receivers. Not one touching the talent of Wayne.

Nor did they ever have starting recievers as bad as Moorehead. Stonehands deluxe.

Reche Caldwell says hello.

 

[timschochet]

There's no guarantee of a rematch. It probably will happen, but there's a lot of football to be played before then. the Steelers are playing very well and I could see them upsetting Indy (though not New England) in the playoffs, as they did two years ago. I wouldn't give the Steelers a very good shot of doing this, but it is at least possible.

 

[Capella]

The Pats won.

they had a pretty bad game plan but in the 4th they found their game.

now if they can just stop running up the score against the really bad teams, i think we should all be able to acknowledge the Pats as the best team in the NFL.

cant wait for the reamtch

I think everyone already knows they're the best team in the NFL. The question is whether they're the best team in NFL history.

I think they should actually win the title first before we grant them either of these.

 

[xNiZzLEx]

patriots should make a call to tiki barber to pick up half the carries

but, that game... wow i had no voice by the end.. after the first half i thought indy had done it.. but looks like BB gave it to em at the half.. Go Pats! (all season i have been more worried about the pitt game than this game..) a healthy pitt's d line scares me...

 

[Joe Bryant]

Very good football game. Both teams looked very human at times. Patriots were the better team and they won as the better team should. Good game all around.

J

 

[mad sweeney]

Who was Brady yelling at?

With 145 left in a 4 point game, as Brady takes a knee... the Indy players are playing hard tryng to disrupt the center-qb exchange... and Brady got upset and was yelling "WHY DO YOU GOTTA DO THAT!?!" ... to the Indy players.

Seriously, I don't agree with that. The game is still going, the ball is still live.

Why Tom? Because several times this year you guys have faked the spike. No reason to give you a free play, you've set the standard for these types of relaxed or "free" plays. No D is going to go easy on you on a kneel, or spike or step out of bounds all year because you've created an environment where you'll take advantage of these free plays. It's the bed you made, you gotta deal with the consequences.

 

[mad sweeney]

Very good football game. Both teams looked very human at times. Patriots were the better team and they won as the better team should. Good game all around.J

I thought it was good as well. Would've liked to see both teams healthy and slugging it out from a fan's perspective. A healthy Ugoh would've made a big difference. Hopefully the Pats stay healthy adn the Colts get healthy so the rematch can be a true clash of the titans. The Pats were definitely exposed as a mortal team today. Dunno if anyone can do anything with that knowledge but it was a close game for them.

 

[mad sweeney]

The Pats won.

they had a pretty bad game plan but in the 4th they found their game.

now if they can just stop running up the score against the really bad teams, i think we should all be able to acknowledge the Pats as the best team in the NFL.

cant wait for the reamtch

I think everyone already knows they're the best team in the NFL. The question is whether they're the best team in NFL history.

I think they should actually win the title first before we grant them either of these.

I think Indy is still very much in the mix for best team of this year. This was just a fairly important regular season game and the Colts were a lucky bounce or two away from winning. Not time to polish the trophy just yet. But getting the inside track on HFA is a big win for the Pat.s

 

[Borat]

Awful lot of bitterness, spite, hatred, anger, and jealousy towards the Patriots in this thread.

No surprise there.

 

[twitch]

The most frustrating part of this game was the Patriot playcalling for about 3/4 of the game. Just piss-poor. It played right to the strength of the Indy defense and was often predictable. The Pats are talented enough that they should stick to what they do well. Also, in a game like this you put the ball in the hands of your studs.This game was won by the Patriot D. It often wasn't pretty but they held Indy to 20 points at home. I don't care who's hurt or healthy that's a solid effort. They kept the game within reach so when the O got their head out of their butt they could win it.

I couldnt agree more. Im scratching my head even now as to some of those early calls, and passes downfield to Brady and Stallworth. It was incredibly loud. It seemed like they were struggling the entire game getting plays in. But they got it done in the end. I think it was tremendous experience for McDaniel. That kid is gonna be a great HC one of these days. But full credit to the D. I was wondering where Colvin was hiding throughout the 1st half. Saving him for the end.

 

[Pat Patriot]

Awful lot of bitterness, spite, hatred, anger, and jealousy towards the Patriots in this thread.No surprise there.

Actually I thought for the most part the thread was pretty even handed and most people just enjoying a damn good game.I got tired of the Finless schtick pretty quickly but other than that it was pretty good.

 

[Fantaholic]

Mad Sweeney, not for anything here but did Brady sleep with your girl or something? Your hatred for the Pats is overbearing.

 

[twitch]

By the way, I spent some time at the Colts website on their team board, under RussFrancis for any of you Colts fans, and have gotta say, those Colts fans are about as great a group of fans as Ive seen. Great exchanges pregame. Unbelievable gracious in defeat. FULL PROPS to Colts fans. Class acts. Good luck crew. We'll meet again.

 

[twitch]

Mad Sweeney, not for anything here but did Brady sleep with your girl or something? Your hatred for the Pats is overbearing.

God, I hope he's not a 'Niners fan. Doubt it, but it would make sense. 3rd or 4th overall pick right now is looking pretty sweet, though. Yes!

 

[encaitar]

rematch will be good, as long as the Colts find some WR's.. without Harrison.

The Patriots have won for years with a patchwork of receivers. Not one touching the talent of Wayne.

Nor did they ever have starting recievers as bad as Moorehead. Stonehands deluxe.

Reche Caldwell says hello.

The same Reche Caldwell who had 1 dropped pass out of 102 targets in 2006? That Reche Caldwell?

 

[Bill Lust]

rematch will be good, as long as the Colts find some WR's.. without Harrison.

The Patriots have won for years with a patchwork of receivers. Not one touching the talent of Wayne.

Nor did they ever have starting recievers as bad as Moorehead. Stonehands deluxe.

Reche Caldwell says hello.

The same Reche Caldwell who had 1 dropped pass out of 102 targets in 2006? That Reche Caldwell?

Uh.... yeah. Is there more than one Reche Caldwell in the league?

 

[mad sweeney]

Mad Sweeney, not for anything here but did Brady sleep with your girl or something? Your hatred for the Pats is overbearing.

I didn't say anything bad about the Patriots!! Today. And if I had a girlfriend hot enough for Brady to sleep with I'd be doing all right.

 

[encaitar]

rematch will be good, as long as the Colts find some WR's.. without Harrison.

The Patriots have won for years with a patchwork of receivers. Not one touching the talent of Wayne.

Nor did they ever have starting recievers as bad as Moorehead. Stonehands deluxe.

Reche Caldwell says hello.

The same Reche Caldwell who had 1 dropped pass out of 102 targets in 2006? That Reche Caldwell?

Uh.... yeah. Is there more than one Reche Caldwell in the league?

No, but my point was that according to the stats, he had the stickiest hands of all the No. 1 recievers in the league. 1 drop in 102 targets?!?! Any QB would take that.

 

[thayman]

Mad Sweeney, not for anything here but did Brady sleep with your girl or something? Your hatred for the Pats is overbearing.

I didn't say anything bad about the Patriots!! Today. And if I had a girlfriend hot enough for Brady to sleep with I'd be doing all right.

 

[Bri]

Chiming in late, sorry to post on topic.

I enjoyed the game especially how it wound up Brady leading them to game winning score, then Manning had a chance to do so. Couldn't have asked for more at the end.

BB often gives up one thing and takes away a bunch. I was wonderring how much of Addai's success was part of his plan and how much was Addai's tremendous ability. It'd be almost funny if that's how you slow the Colts down. That couldn't have been it, could it?

I felt like the refs were pretty nitpicky today. I prefer the let em' play type refs.

I was so sure Sanders was gonna take that Welker TD the other way. Two weeks in a row Brady throws that....I'm not so sure if the next time the DB doesn't jump on it.

Pats Ts stunk today or Colts DEs were awesome. They're usually good so I figure credit's due to the Colts DEs.

Awesome fingertip grab by Brackett. Uncanny how Rodney can read Manning and it seems no one else in the league can. What'd they show 4-5 key INTs by him on Manning?

I think Seymour got pushed around a bit more than I can ever recall seeing.

I love Dungy but putting 5-8 defender on Moss was just dopey

 

[dawrecker]

good game by the pats. They are clearly the better team at special teams which was the whole difference in the game. Starting midfield every drive compared to starting around the 20 along with a missed field goal is the difference. We knew this coming in and the offense had to make up for it but didn't. oh yea im also glad the pats game plan was so bad to start with, it is nice of them along with every other team in the nfl to have a poor game plan when they play the colts. I dont know what the colts would do if a team actually came in with a good game plan.

 

[kilrb]

This game means nada! Pats will get home field being in a much weaker division (even if they had lost tonight). These teams will meet in the AL championship game. Then it will matter. And hopefully they will both be full strength.

 

[twitch]

Chiming in late, sorry to post on topic.

I enjoyed the game especially how it wound up Brady leading them to game winning score, then Manning had a chance to do so. Couldn't have asked for more at the end.

BB often gives up one thing and takes away a bunch. I was wonderring how much of Addai's success was part of his plan and how much was Addai's tremendous ability. It'd be almost funny if that's how you slow the Colts down. That couldn't have been it, could it?

I felt like the refs were pretty nitpicky today. I prefer the let em' play type refs.

I was so sure Sanders was gonna take that Welker TD the other way. Two weeks in a row Brady throws that....I'm not so sure if the next time the DB doesn't jump on it.

Pats Ts stunk today or Colts DEs were awesome. They're usually good so I figure credit's due to the Colts DEs.

Awesome fingertip grab by Brackett. Uncanny how Rodney can read Manning and it seems no one else in the league can. What'd they show 4-5 key INTs by him on Manning?

I think Seymour got pushed around a bit more than I can ever recall seeing.

I love Dungy but putting 5-8 defender on Moss was just dopey

On the Welker TD pass, and Im sure you know where Im going. But isnt it ironic after all the beating NE took this past week over running it up while working on plays, and the specific TD that was attacked the most was the Welker TD last week, turned out to be the EXACT SAME PLAY today to get them back in it? Sweet irony.

 

[Popinski]

The Pats were definitely exposed as a mortal team today.

I don't know that I would call this being "exposed". I mean entering the game, the Colts were having a historically great season as well, just not to the extent that the Pats were. Even the greatest team of all-time couldn't be expected to rout the Colts on the road like many predicted.

 

[mad sweeney]

The Pats were definitely exposed as a mortal team today.

I don't know that I would call this being "exposed". I mean entering the game, the Colts were having a historically great season as well, just not to the extent that the Pats were. Even the greatest team of all-time couldn't be expected to rout the Colts on the road like many predicted.

And that's why the second sentence in that quote that you left out said that I don't know if anyone can do anything with this info. Meaning that the Pats are still too good to beat by almost anyone else.

 

[Bri]

good game by the pats. They are clearly the better team at special teams which was the whole difference in the game. Starting midfield every drive compared to starting around the 20 along with a missed field goal is the difference. We knew this coming in and the offense had to make up for it but didn't. oh yea im also glad the pats game plan was so bad to start with, it is nice of them along with every other team in the nfl to have a poor game plan when they play the colts. I dont know what the colts would do if a team actually came in with a good game plan.

Welker was terrific today on returns. Alot of Pats fans had hoped somehow someway he'd replace the dear, to them, Troy Brown. I think he has or is well on his way and that's no small accomplishment. That trade looks better and better each week. Re gameplan, I took that as initial game plan win for Dungy, halftime adjustment win for BB

 

[mdog1967]

good game by the pats. They are clearly the better team at special teams which was the whole difference in the game. Starting midfield every drive compared to starting around the 20 along with a missed field goal is the difference. We knew this coming in and the offense had to make up for it but didn't. oh yea im also glad the pats game plan was so bad to start with, it is nice of them along with every other team in the nfl to have a poor game plan when they play the colts. I dont know what the colts would do if a team actually came in with a good game plan.

Welker was terrific today on returns. Alot of Pats fans had hoped somehow someway he'd replace the dear, to them, Troy Brown. I think he has or is well on his way and that's no small accomplishment. That trade looks better and better each week. Re gameplan, I took that as initial game plan win for Dungy, halftime adjustment win for BB

It dont matter, the Colts and all their big ##### fans can kiss my ###, #### you stooges and the Brady haters.Whats that the sound, is that crow from the Choking San Diego fans and the wimpy Steel girls, come on you guys are chumps, chumps. Love it man, love it.

 

[mad sweeney]

good game by the pats. They are clearly the better team at special teams which was the whole difference in the game. Starting midfield every drive compared to starting around the 20 along with a missed field goal is the difference. We knew this coming in and the offense had to make up for it but didn't. oh yea im also glad the pats game plan was so bad to start with, it is nice of them along with every other team in the nfl to have a poor game plan when they play the colts. I dont know what the colts would do if a team actually came in with a good game plan.

Welker was terrific today on returns. Alot of Pats fans had hoped somehow someway he'd replace the dear, to them, Troy Brown. I think he has or is well on his way and that's no small accomplishment. That trade looks better and better each week. Re gameplan, I took that as initial game plan win for Dungy, halftime adjustment win for BB

It dont matter, the Colts and all their big ##### fans can kiss my ###, #### you stooges and the Brady haters.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Chiming in late, sorry to post on topic.

Why the snide opening?I thought this was a good thread.J

 

[Phlash]

I love Dungy but putting 5-8 defender on Moss was just dopey

I don't blame him.Moss still had 9/145/1 despite this gameplan.

 

[Bri]

The Pats were definitely exposed as a mortal team today.

I don't know that I would call this being "exposed". I mean entering the game, the Colts were having a historically great season as well, just not to the extent that the Pats were. Even the greatest team of all-time couldn't be expected to rout the Colts on the road like many predicted.

And that's why the second sentence in that quote that you left out said that I don't know if anyone can do anything with this info. Meaning that the Pats are still too good to beat by almost anyone else.

I'm not following this so well but regardless, I think we saw two clearly superior teams banging heads like we expected. I'm not so sure each team didn't have their moments where they thought it was harder than normal to complete a simple task. Pats are human, so are the Colts. Nothing was exposed, what we learned is was what we all know already, the best team wins. I don't mean that knocking the Colts down and all... I mean it's just been so darn obvious the other weeks, it was actually different to not know who'd win for a change. It's been a while since Pats and Colts fans saw a game minus Cowboys or Titans. Both are a little spoiled I think. Colts and Pats will go back to easy wins soon enough.