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General Malaise "vs." reading comprehension ; also some talk of skyim and the elder scrolls (2 Viewers)

I play in first person most of the time, but when I'm traveling in the countryside I'll switch over to third person to be able to see more.
I changed my field of view a bit so that I can see more while running around in first person. The stock FOV felt pretty claustrophobic to me.
 
I play in first person most of the time, but when I'm traveling in the countryside I'll switch over to third person to be able to see more.
I changed my field of view a bit so that I can see more while running around in first person. The stock FOV felt pretty claustrophobic to me.
I have mine boosted as well. Though when traveling I like that you have camera control in third person and can have the camera a little higher above you to spot things easier. Also very useful when looking for the corpse of that necromancer you blew off the roof of the tower. :)
 
'Matthias said:
Also, I'm pretty happy on the whole about the game performance. I was skeptical, having read horror stories of lag on the PS3. But at this point I'm 100 hours in with a 12 MB save file and there's times where the game slows down and it's crashed a few times, but overall, it plays just fine. Although there are times where I see screen shots of the game online and I'm honestly blown away that that's the same game I play. I don't know if what I'm seeing is the 360 or a souped-up PC but they look a couple of generations better than the graphics on the PS3. Mostly it's stuff like level of detail on NPC characters.
Probably PC. There are lots of graphic upgrade mods out already.
 
'IvanKaramazov said:
Skyrim is not very good. It is incredibly easy, to the point that I had to crank the difficulty up the entire way, even then I killed the final boss in under 20 seconds. The combat system was revolutionary for an RPG when Morrowind came out, but that was a decade ago, now the combat system is below average.Mass Effect>>>>>Elder Scrolls
Troll Fat(0003ad72) Alchemy Effects 1st: Resist Poison2nd: Fortify Two-handed3rd: Frenzy4th: Damage Health
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I don't think that it's easy mode. Just in shooting those polar bears it takes too many arrows. I play on the default setting and it's about 2 arrows if they see me and 1 if I'm hidden.

 
Question for those that have done the Thieves Guild Questline:

Is it worth it to complete the full think and get one of the Nightingale Perks plus the upgraded Thieves Guild Armor? I was just about to go in and return the Skeleton Key when I read that the Skeleton key is actually an unbreakable lockpick. It would kind of suck to have to give something like that up, but if the loot you get more than offsets it, than I may go ahead and do it.
 
Question for those that have done the Thieves Guild Questline:

Is it worth it to complete the full think and get one of the Nightingale Perks plus the upgraded Thieves Guild Armor? I was just about to go in and return the Skeleton Key when I read that the Skeleton key is actually an unbreakable lockpick. It would kind of suck to have to give something like that up, but if the loot you get more than offsets it, than I may go ahead and do it.
I have yet to use the perk. Their armor comes in handy once in a while(the +carry weight item)Lock picks are everywhere. I never get close to running out. The skeleton key could be handy if you're lower level in lock picking, though
 
Question for those that have done the Thieves Guild Questline:

Is it worth it to complete the full think and get one of the Nightingale Perks plus the upgraded Thieves Guild Armor? I was just about to go in and return the Skeleton Key when I read that the Skeleton key is actually an unbreakable lockpick. It would kind of suck to have to give something like that up, but if the loot you get more than offsets it, than I may go ahead and do it.
I've hung on the skeleton key for awhile now. I'm close to 90 in lockpick and have hundreds of picks, so I'll be returning it soon now. I thought it came in handy, but I don't like dicking around with picks. I improved my Nightingale armor, I'm level 45 and that's still the armor I use. I'd say if you haven't done much main storyline or haven't done the Dark Broterhood or a lot of cave crawling, it might be nice to hang on to the skeleton key for a bit. It's nice to have when you go to jail too since you only have the one pick I think...
 
is it "worth" going to jail for any reason? I always pay the fine and give up my stolen goods or "I don't have time for this.." :lol:

 
is it "worth" going to jail for any reason? I always pay the fine and give up my stolen goods or "I don't have time for this.." :lol:
Not that I'm aware of. Join the thieves guild and get your speachcraft up and you can buy your way out for under 200 gold most of the time. I paid 2 at one point the other night.
 
is it "worth" going to jail for any reason? I always pay the fine and give up my stolen goods or "I don't have time for this.." :lol:
Not that I'm aware of. Join the thieves guild and get your speachcraft up and you can buy your way out for under 200 gold most of the time. I paid 2 at one point the other night.
I think I had to go as a part of a dark brotherhood mission. Or I picked the wrong option. :unsure:I am in the guild and I usually pay them off, but some crimes are too egregious.
 
is it "worth" going to jail for any reason? I always pay the fine and give up my stolen goods or "I don't have time for this.." :lol:
Not that I'm aware of. Join the thieves guild and get your speachcraft up and you can buy your way out for under 200 gold most of the time. I paid 2 at one point the other night.
I think I had to go as a part of a dark brotherhood mission. Or I picked the wrong option. :unsure:I am in the guild and I usually pay them off, but some crimes are too egregious.
I dunno if its a dark brotherhood but the
Forsworn Conspiracy
mission involves a jailing.

 
is it "worth" going to jail for any reason? I always pay the fine and give up my stolen goods or "I don't have time for this.." :lol:
Not that I'm aware of. Join the thieves guild and get your speachcraft up and you can buy your way out for under 200 gold most of the time. I paid 2 at one point the other night.
I think I had to go as a part of a dark brotherhood mission. Or I picked the wrong option. :unsure:I am in the guild and I usually pay them off, but some crimes are too egregious.
I dunno if its a dark brotherhood but the
Forsworn Conspiracy
mission involves a jailing.

I've done that one too, but a lockpick doesn't help you.
In the DB you have to kill this chick at her marriage as she's speaking in front of everyone. I blasted her off of a tower and guards closed in everywhere. I thought they wouldn't let me pay. (not 100% sure though) So I had to go to jail and then break out...and actually when you do that the DB sends you some help.
 
is it "worth" going to jail for any reason? I always pay the fine and give up my stolen goods or "I don't have time for this.." :lol:
Not that I'm aware of. Join the thieves guild and get your speachcraft up and you can buy your way out for under 200 gold most of the time. I paid 2 at one point the other night.
I think I had to go as a part of a dark brotherhood mission. Or I picked the wrong option. :unsure:I am in the guild and I usually pay them off, but some crimes are too egregious.
I dunno if its a dark brotherhood but the
Forsworn Conspiracy
mission involves a jailing.
I've done that one too, but a lockpick doesn't help you.
In the DB you have to kill this chick at her marriage as she's speaking in front of everyone. I blasted her off of a tower and guards closed in everywhere. I thought they wouldn't let me pay. (not 100% sure though) So I had to go to jail and then break out...and actually when you do that the DB sends you some help.
Oh, I was able to hightail it out of there without fighting the guards. I came back a few hours later when things had cooled down and paid the 1,000 bounty.
 
is it "worth" going to jail for any reason? I always pay the fine and give up my stolen goods or "I don't have time for this.." :lol:
Not that I'm aware of. Join the thieves guild and get your speachcraft up and you can buy your way out for under 200 gold most of the time. I paid 2 at one point the other night.
I think I had to go as a part of a dark brotherhood mission. Or I picked the wrong option. :unsure:I am in the guild and I usually pay them off, but some crimes are too egregious.
I dunno if its a dark brotherhood but the
Forsworn Conspiracy
mission involves a jailing.

right, that's the only one I've been in. good to know I'm nto missing much
 
I am just starting the Thieves Guild, plus just got my invite to the Dark Brotherhood. Can you do both groups? Or will finishing one preclude finishing the other? I know I can likely do MOST of both. Just wondering if I will have to pick and choose in the end.

 
I am just starting the Thieves Guild, plus just got my invite to the Dark Brotherhood. Can you do both groups? Or will finishing one preclude finishing the other? I know I can likely do MOST of both. Just wondering if I will have to pick and choose in the end.
You can do both all the way through. No conflicts at all.
 
is it "worth" going to jail for any reason? I always pay the fine and give up my stolen goods or "I don't have time for this.." :lol:
Not that I'm aware of. Join the thieves guild and get your speachcraft up and you can buy your way out for under 200 gold most of the time. I paid 2 at one point the other night.
I think I had to go as a part of a dark brotherhood mission. Or I picked the wrong option. :unsure:I am in the guild and I usually pay them off, but some crimes are too egregious.
I dunno if its a dark brotherhood but the
Forsworn Conspiracy
mission involves a jailing.
right, that's the only one I've been in. good to know I'm nto missing muchFor us nerds, there's also a trophy/achievement for breaking out of jail. Which is annoying, because you can expect to have to reload your save lots of times before you successfully pick that lock with the one lockpick the game lets you keep.
 
is it "worth" going to jail for any reason? I always pay the fine and give up my stolen goods or "I don't have time for this.." :lol:
Not that I'm aware of. Join the thieves guild and get your speachcraft up and you can buy your way out for under 200 gold most of the time. I paid 2 at one point the other night.
I think I had to go as a part of a dark brotherhood mission. Or I picked the wrong option. :unsure:I am in the guild and I usually pay them off, but some crimes are too egregious.
I dunno if its a dark brotherhood but the
Forsworn Conspiracy
mission involves a jailing.
right, that's the only one I've been in. good to know I'm nto missing muchOnce I figured out that I was going to jail no matter what, I decided I was taking as many guards out as possible before surrendering. I have an 11k bounty for Marakesh (or whatever that weird city is called).
 
'Matthias said:
Anyone else really like the Alchemy and Enchanting? I don't use either that much to actually create things to use, but I get a big kick out of taking new items to the enchanting table to disenchant and learn new enchantments. Likewise, I have a lot of fun mixing and matching ingredients to find out the hidden properties, even though the potions I use I mostly just buy.
I remember using alchemy quite a bit in Oblivion, but I don't really use it for anything in this game. There are a bunch of Restore Health potions laying around all over the place, so I'm never at a want for those, and I don't really need anything else. I also don't need poisons since my bow OHKs or staggers pretty much everything anyway. I do create invisibility and regenerate magicka potions from time to time for resale purposes, and I level it once in a while, but that's it.Enchanting is nice though, but it takes a REALLY long time to get the double-enchanting perk. I'm at level 50 overall but only at 86 Enchanting, and that's with making a special effort to use every single soul gem I find. What I really need to do is make a new bow with soul trap so I can fill gems faster. That would speed this up a lot, and then I could make some pretty cool stuff once I get to 100. In fact, I'm putting that on my to-do list.
 
'Matthias said:
Huh. It must really slow down then, or maybe disenchanting is just worth a whole lotta experience. Because I think I've enchanted maybe half a dozen things, definitely fewer than ten, and I think I'm L52 in enchanting and L33 overall.ETA: Although I have been running under the Mage Stone the whole time so Enchanting has been getting 25% or whatever it is extra experience.
The Mage Stone has something to do with this, but enchanting slows way down after a while. When I first started, I was gaining a level every single time I enchanted something. Now I might enchant 5-6 things between levels.
 
What I really need to do is make a new bow with soul trap so I can fill gems faster.
:eek: You haven't done that yet? That's usually one of my first enchantments. Do you have another weapon soul trapped or do you just cast then kill?This is the first game in the series where I really got into enchanting - I wish I could get an arcane desk for the house.
 
What I really need to do is make a new bow with soul trap so I can fill gems faster.
:eek: You haven't done that yet? That's usually one of my first enchantments. Do you have another weapon soul trapped or do you just cast then kill?This is the first game in the series where I really got into enchanting - I wish I could get an arcane desk for the house.
You kind of can do that...
If you complete the Winterhold College quest line they give you the archmage quarters for your own. Tons of good materials in there and you have your own alchemy lab and arcane desk. I never even bought a house as I just use that place for everything.
 
'Matthias said:
'Matthias said:
Anyone else really like the Alchemy and Enchanting? I don't use either that much to actually create things to use, but I get a big kick out of taking new items to the enchanting table to disenchant and learn new enchantments. Likewise, I have a lot of fun mixing and matching ingredients to find out the hidden properties, even though the potions I use I mostly just buy.
I remember using alchemy quite a bit in Oblivion, but I don't really use it for anything in this game. There are a bunch of Restore Health potions laying around all over the place, so I'm never at a want for those, and I don't really need anything else. I also don't need poisons since my bow OHKs or staggers pretty much everything anyway. I do create invisibility and regenerate magicka potions from time to time for resale purposes, and I level it once in a while, but that's it.Enchanting is nice though, but it takes a REALLY long time to get the double-enchanting perk. I'm at level 50 overall but only at 86 Enchanting, and that's with making a special effort to use every single soul gem I find. What I really need to do is make a new bow with soul trap so I can fill gems faster. That would speed this up a lot, and then I could make some pretty cool stuff once I get to 100. In fact, I'm putting that on my to-do list.
Huh. It must really slow down then, or maybe disenchanting is just worth a whole lotta experience. Because I think I've enchanted maybe half a dozen things, definitely fewer than ten, and I think I'm L52 in enchanting and L33 overall.ETA: Although I have been running under the Mage Stone the whole time so Enchanting has been getting 25% or whatever it is extra experience.
Yes, the amount of behind the scenes XP needed for skills goes up exponentially. Level 50 you need 25x as much XP as to increase it at level 10.But since things like enchanting and alchemy give you that behind the scenes XP based on item value, the amount per skill use increases also so it doesn't really take 25x as many uses to get that extra XP. But the number of uses do tend to increase as skill goes up.

At low levels, I found 2 enchantments with Petty souls and something like Damage Stamina and no perks were enough to level it. At level 90, with full perks available, common souls and Banish (which is makes items worth much more), it was taking more like 8-10 enchantments per level.

 
What I really need to do is make a new bow with soul trap so I can fill gems faster.
:eek: You haven't done that yet? That's usually one of my first enchantments. Do you have another weapon soul trapped or do you just cast then kill?This is the first game in the series where I really got into enchanting - I wish I could get an arcane desk for the house.
You kind of can do that...
If you complete the Winterhold College quest line they give you the archmage quarters for your own. Tons of good materials in there and you have your own alchemy lab and arcane desk. I never even bought a house as I just use that place for everything.
and when you buy the pimp house in Solitude you can pay for an enchanting table and get it in-house.
 
Ever get annoyed when Lydia keeps using her crappy hunting bow instead of whatever awesome bow you equipped her with?

To remove the hunting bow, open the console with the ~ key and type in: a2c94.removeitem 10e2dd 1

This should remove her default bow which is otherwise hidden in her inventory. It will tell you an item count of how many it found prior to doing the removal. She may have more than one of them so you might have to repeat it or raise the "1" at the end to remove more of them. You may need to repeat this command from time to time as the bow may reappear over time.

 
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After the kids opened their Christmas presents, I settled down for a bit of grinding to get my enchanting up to 100. Finally got there. :thumbup:

Seeing as how I OHK almost everybody/everything and can move around almost invisibly with sneak maxed out, I've decided to go without armor. So I double-enchanted an outfit (cowl, robes, boots, gloves, ring, amulet) with various combinations of fortify archery, fortify health, fortify stamina, fortify carry weight, fortify lockpick, fortify pickpocket, resist frost and resist fire. Add that to my double-enchanted daedric bow (soul trap + shock damage) and I think I'm set for now. My bow is doing 297 points of damage, so I'm pretty sure I'm okay in the damage-dealing department. I'm hoping that the lack of armor will make things a little more exciting when I'm on dungeon crawls. Plus, my character looks cool.

 
Bought an Xbox360 and Skyrim for my self birthday/Christmas gift. Way behind most of you guys of course. I think I am level 6 right now. Really enjoying it.

 
Bought an Xbox360 and Skyrim for my self birthday/Christmas gift. Way behind most of you guys of course. I think I am level 6 right now. Really enjoying it.
Don't worry. You'll be nerding it up with the rest of us in no time.
Oblivion got me into the series and I got my nerd on pretty good with that so I'll be right along. As of now I just finished with the greybeards and I am going over to clean out a barrow. I do have a question though. Can I get sparks anywhere other than in the Unbound part? I was still getting control of the controller and trying to figure out all the little symbols so I stumbled through that part and wasn't very effective there. I guess reading the directions has it perks after all.
 
Got the Xbox version of this for Xmas since I heard the PS3 version sucks (bugs). Haven't been playing games for almost a year now. Hopefully this doesn't suck me back in too much. :)

 
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After the kids opened their Christmas presents, I settled down for a bit of grinding to get my enchanting up to 100. Finally got there. :thumbup:
<==== JealousHad my son open his gifts. His sister came back and we exchanged. Sent them over to mama's. Got the ham in the oven and thought I'd get a few hours of play in. Had time to sell off the crap from my last crawl and get set up for some real play. DING DONG. Kids are back about two hours earlier than I expected. So had the game up and running maybe 15 minutes. Now sitting here while my wife watches Bridges of Madison County on our free Starz and Encore weekend. **** you AT&T. Oh, and found out I have the grandkids tomorrow on my last day of Christmas vacation, so no play there either. My next session? Probably Thursday. :ptts:
 
Thanks hooter, Hank and Matthias.I'm gonna pick it up. :thumbup:
:thumbup: Have fun brother!
Took Skyrim back last night (RedBox).Awesome game, but for me it's like renting a 4 hour porno. Tons of content, but I only need a fraction of it to get by. Unfortunately, I don't have the time & attention span to get into it at this point in time with my two 2 year olds and Christmas festivities. Thank you for the advice and good luck in Skyrim.
 
holy.####.

Started a new profile and went full mage guy. I've died more times in the past two days than the entire time previously playing the game. :hot:

Any tips/tricks to being a mage? I'm doing -0- smithing and wearing only robe thingies. Only enchant weapons I take off of dead guys and sell the jewels by themselves. Destruction and enchanting are upwards of 55-56 at level 13 and I've pull all but two perks into them(on each into restoration and conjuration to cut the cost of magika). The soul trap spell is cool as I was worried how I would trap souls without a weapon.

 
Thanks hooter, Hank and Matthias.

I'm gonna pick it up. :thumbup:
:thumbup: Have fun brother!
Took Skyrim back last night (RedBox).Awesome game, but for me it's like renting a 4 hour porno. Tons of content, but I only need a fraction of it to get by. Unfortunately, I don't have the time & attention span to get into it at this point in time with my two 2 year olds and Christmas festivities. Thank you for the advice and good luck in Skyrim.
:lmao: That's a great analogy.

 
'Matthias said:
holy.####.Started a new profile and went full mage guy. I've died more times in the past two days than the entire time previously playing the game. :hot: Any tips/tricks to being a mage? I'm doing -0- smithing and wearing only robe thingies. Only enchant weapons I take off of dead guys and sell the jewels by themselves. Destruction and enchanting are upwards of 55-56 at level 13 and I've pull all but two perks into them(on each into restoration and conjuration to cut the cost of magika). The soul trap spell is cool as I was worried how I would trap souls without a weapon.
Flame Atronach. Summon and hide behind him. Although for some guys, if you have the stagger perk for Destruction, that's all you need. Just a handful of Flamebolts to the chest and on your way. Barring that, the run away, let them chase you, let your magicka grow back, and then turn and face them and blast them away is a time-honored tradition among mages.
I've done the Flame Atronach thing a few times...she gets her asses kicked. DO they level with my congeration level(haven't looked that deep there yet)?I found the running and hiding to help, too :lol:
You should be taking 80/20/0 for Magicka/Health/Stamina on Level-ups, though.
Pretty close to that, thanks :thumbup:
 
'The Gator said:
'Matthias said:
'The Gator said:
holy.####.Started a new profile and went full mage guy. I've died more times in the past two days than the entire time previously playing the game. :hot: Any tips/tricks to being a mage? I'm doing -0- smithing and wearing only robe thingies. Only enchant weapons I take off of dead guys and sell the jewels by themselves. Destruction and enchanting are upwards of 55-56 at level 13 and I've pull all but two perks into them(on each into restoration and conjuration to cut the cost of magika). The soul trap spell is cool as I was worried how I would trap souls without a weapon.
Flame Atronach. Summon and hide behind him. Although for some guys, if you have the stagger perk for Destruction, that's all you need. Just a handful of Flamebolts to the chest and on your way. Barring that, the run away, let them chase you, let your magicka grow back, and then turn and face them and blast them away is a time-honored tradition among mages.
I've done the Flame Atronach thing a few times...she gets her asses kicked. DO they level with my congeration level(haven't looked that deep there yet)?I found the running and hiding to help, too :lol:
You should be taking 80/20/0 for Magicka/Health/Stamina on Level-ups, though.
Pretty close to that, thanks :thumbup:
Flame atronach is a good ranged weapon. At some point you'll also be able to summon frost atronach. He is a big guy more of a melee fighter whereas the flame one is ranged. You cannot take much damage as your health is likely only around 130 or so and you have almost zero armor. Key is to keep people off of you and focused on your summoned companions (or real ones if you still have Lydia or another companion.) Also, make use of the "rune" spells. Anytime I was going into dungeons or areas where I knew a fight was coming, I would cast a rune on the floor and head in. If the #### starts going down, run back past your ruin. Any bad guys following you will go through it and get hammered with a good amount of damage. At higher levels, the pure mage is pretty unstoppable. Double summoning daedric lords and setting up a wall of flames means you don't fear much. Last thing, if you haven't already, make sure you're picking the perks to 1/2 the cost of magic required for your main spells (conjuration and destruction likely) If you don't have those perks you'll run out of magic in every fight.
 
Thanks :thumbup:

Last thing, if you haven't already, make sure you're picking the perks to 1/2 the cost of magic required for your main spells (conjuration and destruction likely) If you don't have those perks you'll run out of magic in every fight.
THis was the first thing i did...went and put one across the three(destruction,Restoration, conjuration) then built up Destruction. Are any of the restoration/conjuration perks worth going really high with?
 
Thanks :thumbup:

Last thing, if you haven't already, make sure you're picking the perks to 1/2 the cost of magic required for your main spells (conjuration and destruction likely) If you don't have those perks you'll run out of magic in every fight.
THis was the first thing i did...went and put one across the three(destruction,Restoration, conjuration) then built up Destruction. Are any of the restoration/conjuration perks worth going really high with?
I didn't go up the chain for necromancy or whatever it is called but I maxed out the entire left side of conjuration. That's where you'll end up getting very powerful summoned demons. One of the perks makes them stronger, one makes you able to cast them farther away, I think one makes them last longer, and at the very top when you get your conjuration to 100 you can run double summoned demons. At that point you'll be summoning daemon lords for melee combat or storm atronochs for ranged. Very fun. I've done most of the base line level restoration ones so you can cast healing spells at lower cost and recover more health. But I haven't gone up to the higher ones as I haven't found the need and have wanted to put perks into other stuff (like enchantment some smithing) But if you're going pure mage (no crafting, etc.) then it would be fine. There is one called "ward absorb" that looks fun. If you get into a battle with another mage and throw up a greater ward (magic shield basically) you get to absorb some of the magicka being directed at you. This is the only way I would ever use the ward spells...they just use way too much magicka to keep them up for any period of time.
 
The stagger perk in the Destruction tree is probably the best perk in the entire game as far as the amount of benefit it confers, though obviously only those who use magic will get out use out of it. Once you get it, the majority of your opponents won't be able to close the distance on you to do melee attacks which improves your survivability 10-fold. Once I've had it I've fought many dragons who never even got a breath weapon off because I kept them continually staggered.

 
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Well I had forgotten something I learned in Morrowind. Before you go to far from your first city at least get to level 10. I was getting killed left and right by wolves trying to do the College so I rolled backed to Riverwood and been hanging out down there for a bit. I found I was still playing like I was in Morrowind. My last player in that game was for all intents unstoppable. Pretty much maxed out across the board with the best of everything. To start dying by mudcrab and common wolf was quite a change. But been working on it and I killed my first dragon with just myself and Lydia. I was pretty happy.

But now I'm stuck I think. I went to do the Windcaller quest. No problem got through everything fine, even hit Redoran's Rest along the way with no real problem. Feeling good at this point. But Lydia didn't stay put as I asked her to and now she is stuck in one of the fire traps and I can't get her out. I may have to go back to an earlier save which will suck. Saving is the thing I do the worst. I am going to end up redoing a lot if I can't get her out some other way.

 
Just got it for the PS3. I am going to try and get it booted up today. It sounds like with all the patches, I am probably looking at a 1 hour process just to get the game installed.

 

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