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General Malaise "vs." reading comprehension ; also some talk of skyim and the elder scrolls (4 Viewers)

Im only at level 14 or so but one thing that is bothering is that they use the same 6 voice actors over and over again. On a huge budget game like this its annoying, and its something that the last 2 Fallout games never did.Just a minor irritant in a great game so far.
There are over 70 different voice actors in this game which is a very large number for any video game. In contrast Fallout 3 only had 37 voice actors.
Im just telling ya what Im hearing, maybe it gets more diversified later but it feels like 10% of those voice most of the game.
I agree. They may have 70 voice actors, but they aren't changing up their voices for different characters much. Although with the insane number of NPCs in this game it may not make much difference.
they def use the same voices over and over for non-quest NPCs, but there are so many unique voiced quest-NPCs I can see where the rest of the 70 get used up quick
 
Ok, as I mentioned, done with the main quest. Haven't done the Dark Brotherhood, but doubt I will. I plan to finish up the Thieves Guild and get my offical proclimation as Guild Master. And I need two more blood types for my lexicon for Mr. Loon and want to finish that up also. I'm already the Arch Mage. And married to Mjoll. I own the house in Whiterun and Riften. What are the fun things I need to do before shelving this one? Is it worth going after the sweet house in Solitude? I have well over 100k so gold isn't an issue. I have all 20 shouts. Just wondering if there is anyting worth doing that I haven't done yet other than the two things I mentioned?Edit: Meant to add, I need two more masks. May do that also if I can find them without to much trouble.
Dark Brotherhood is pretty fun if you like carrying out assassinations, the end is pretty cool too. Markoff house IMO is the best house, although I havent seen the Windhelm one.
 
I was going to do the DB quest but never got around to it and am getting bored with my first carrier so I'm thinking I'll do the main quest and wrap it up. Are the DB quests sneak oriented? I'd like to do them with my next character but that won't be a sneaky type.

 
Ok, as I mentioned, done with the main quest. Haven't done the Dark Brotherhood, but doubt I will. I plan to finish up the Thieves Guild and get my offical proclimation as Guild Master. And I need two more blood types for my lexicon for Mr. Loon and want to finish that up also. I'm already the Arch Mage. And married to Mjoll. I own the house in Whiterun and Riften. What are the fun things I need to do before shelving this one? Is it worth going after the sweet house in Solitude? I have well over 100k so gold isn't an issue. I have all 20 shouts. Just wondering if there is anyting worth doing that I haven't done yet other than the two things I mentioned?Edit: Meant to add, I need two more masks. May do that also if I can find them without to much trouble.
Dark Brotherhood is pretty fun if you like carrying out assassinations, the end is pretty cool too. Markoff house IMO is the best house, although I havent seen the Windhelm one.
And you can actually chose to not do the quests and you will be given a different set of quests in replacement.
 
I was going to do the DB quest but never got around to it and am getting bored with my first carrier so I'm thinking I'll do the main quest and wrap it up. Are the DB quests sneak oriented? I'd like to do them with my next character but that won't be a sneaky type.
IMO yes, very much so.
 
Ok, as I mentioned, done with the main quest. Haven't done the Dark Brotherhood, but doubt I will. I plan to finish up the Thieves Guild and get my offical proclimation as Guild Master. And I need two more blood types for my lexicon for Mr. Loon and want to finish that up also. I'm already the Arch Mage. And married to Mjoll. I own the house in Whiterun and Riften. What are the fun things I need to do before shelving this one? Is it worth going after the sweet house in Solitude? I have well over 100k so gold isn't an issue. I have all 20 shouts. Just wondering if there is anyting worth doing that I haven't done yet other than the two things I mentioned?Edit: Meant to add, I need two more masks. May do that also if I can find them without to much trouble.
Maybe I can piggy-back on this with a Thieves Guild question.I've been doing quests for Delvin...Numbers Job, etc. I've failed one or two of them because I was seen or whatever. Do these quests need to be completed to become Guild Master or are they more like side quests for the Guild? Will the fact that I've failed a few of them matter?
 
Ok, as I mentioned, done with the main quest. Haven't done the Dark Brotherhood, but doubt I will. I plan to finish up the Thieves Guild and get my offical proclimation as Guild Master. And I need two more blood types for my lexicon for Mr. Loon and want to finish that up also. I'm already the Arch Mage. And married to Mjoll. I own the house in Whiterun and Riften. What are the fun things I need to do before shelving this one? Is it worth going after the sweet house in Solitude? I have well over 100k so gold isn't an issue. I have all 20 shouts. Just wondering if there is anyting worth doing that I haven't done yet other than the two things I mentioned?Edit: Meant to add, I need two more masks. May do that also if I can find them without to much trouble.
Maybe I can piggy-back on this with a Thieves Guild question.I've been doing quests for Delvin...Numbers Job, etc. I've failed one or two of them because I was seen or whatever. Do these quests need to be completed to become Guild Master or are they more like side quests for the Guild? Will the fact that I've failed a few of them matter?
No. You need to do a certain number of missions in each city, and it doesn't matter if you failed any quests. In fact, it's much more efficient to just quit any jobs that don't take you to a city you need to do some jobs in.
 
Maybe I can piggy-back on this with a Thieves Guild question.I've been doing quests for Delvin...Numbers Job, etc. I've failed one or two of them because I was seen or whatever. Do these quests need to be completed to become Guild Master or are they more like side quests for the Guild? Will the fact that I've failed a few of them matter?
Essentially, you want to do the quests for Devlin and Vex in a city until they give you a "special job" in that town. Once you get the special job and do it, there is no reason to do any more in that town unless you just need the cash. Essentially, once you "complete" a town by doing the special quest, your fence's available cash will go up. By completing the special quests in each town, your fences will eventually end up with 4,000 gold apiece, great for selling off stuff.Edit: Oh, and as the previous poster said, once you complete a town, it's best to just turn down the quest and pick up another. I had to turn down four or five in a row at times when I was down to just one town to go.
 
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Dark Brotherhood is pretty fun if you like carrying out assassinations, the end is pretty cool too. Markoff house IMO is the best house, although I havent seen the Windhelm one.
Are the marks considered "bad"? I essentially do not like killing innocent people. I gave up the Beothia quest line and the Ocham's Razor or whatever it is called simply because I dont like to kill innocents. If they are bad guys, I guess I'd be alright with it. If they are just common citizens or whatever, I'm more likely to go off and just kill the DB people.
 
Im only at level 14 or so but one thing that is bothering is that they use the same 6 voice actors over and over again. On a huge budget game like this its annoying, and its something that the last 2 Fallout games never did.Just a minor irritant in a great game so far.
There are over 70 different voice actors in this game which is a very large number for any video game. In contrast Fallout 3 only had 37 voice actors.
Im just telling ya what Im hearing, maybe it gets more diversified later but it feels like 10% of those voice most of the game.
Ivanova is everywhere!
 
Dark Brotherhood is pretty fun if you like carrying out assassinations, the end is pretty cool too. Markoff house IMO is the best house, although I havent seen the Windhelm one.
Are the marks considered "bad"? I essentially do not like killing innocent people. I gave up the Beothia quest line and the Ocham's Razor or whatever it is called simply because I dont like to kill innocents. If they are bad guys, I guess I'd be alright with it. If they are just common citizens or whatever, I'm more likely to go off and just kill the DB people.
Yeah this is why I killed Astrid instead of the hostages.
 
Maybe I can piggy-back on this with a Thieves Guild question.I've been doing quests for Delvin...Numbers Job, etc. I've failed one or two of them because I was seen or whatever. Do these quests need to be completed to become Guild Master or are they more like side quests for the Guild? Will the fact that I've failed a few of them matter?
Essentially, you want to do the quests for Devlin and Vex in a city until they give you a "special job" in that town. Once you get the special job and do it, there is no reason to do any more in that town unless you just need the cash. Essentially, once you "complete" a town by doing the special quest, your fence's available cash will go up. By completing the special quests in each town, your fences will eventually end up with 4,000 gold apiece, great for selling off stuff.Edit: Oh, and as the previous poster said, once you complete a town, it's best to just turn down the quest and pick up another. I had to turn down four or five in a row at times when I was down to just one town to go.
No. You need to do a certain number of missions in each city, and it doesn't matter if you failed any quests. In fact, it's much more efficient to just quit any jobs that don't take you to a city you need to do some jobs in.
Thanks.Will I know when I've completed Riften, for example? How do you know when you've completed a city?
 
Will I know when I've completed Riften, for example? How do you know when you've completed a city?
You'll know when one of them tells you they have a special job in that town (I think it is always Devlin that gives it but I could be wrong). If you try to pick up another sidequest, Vex will say something like "You need to complete Devlin's task, then we'll talk." So it should be obvious because he actually calls it a special job or something like that.
 
Dark Brotherhood is pretty fun if you like carrying out assassinations, the end is pretty cool too. Markoff house IMO is the best house, although I havent seen the Windhelm one.
Are the marks considered "bad"? I essentially do not like killing innocent people. I gave up the Beothia quest line and the Ocham's Razor or whatever it is called simply because I dont like to kill innocents. If they are bad guys, I guess I'd be alright with it. If they are just common citizens or whatever, I'm more likely to go off and just kill the DB people.
Yeah this is why I killed Astrid instead of the hostages.
:lmao: I like that.my curiosity drove me to join her instead, is there negative karma in this game like Fallout3? I see no meter that shows how evil or good you are, although maybe the NPCs react to you in a different way. Either way you are actually carrying out the requests of other characters, and some NPCs will praise you as a DB when you walk around. So curious how it affects your character's moral status.I also carried out many of the evil quests of the daedra gods and received their artifacts :unsure: best thing out of it is probably seeing NPCs you interact with everyday and get the option to say "didn't I see you at that dinner party?"
 
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Dark Brotherhood is pretty fun if you like carrying out assassinations, the end is pretty cool too. Markoff house IMO is the best house, although I havent seen the Windhelm one.
Are the marks considered "bad"? I essentially do not like killing innocent people. I gave up the Beothia quest line and the Ocham's Razor or whatever it is called simply because I dont like to kill innocents. If they are bad guys, I guess I'd be alright with it. If they are just common citizens or whatever, I'm more likely to go off and just kill the DB people.
Yeah this is why I killed Astrid instead of the hostages.
:lmao: I like that.my curiosity drove me to join her instead, is there negative karma in this game like Fallout3? I see no meter that shows how evil or good you are, although maybe the NPCs react to you in a different way. Either way you are actually carrying out the requests of other characters, and some NPCs will praise you as a DB when you walk around. So curious how it affects your character's moral status.I also carried out many of the evil quests of the daedra gods and received their artifacts :unsure:
A couple of the DB quests have made me feel pretty skeevy, and that my character would be better served sitting in a jail cell somewhere rather than saving the realm, but then I get over it and go find where my next target is so I can sneak in and kill them in their sleep.
 
Yeah this is why I killed Astrid instead of the hostages.
Wish I had, but that ship sailed. I had actually planned to go DB but then developed a conscious.
Well they had already tried to kill me once this game and I am a little peeved they popped up again after I wiped them out in Oblivion. So when she said someone had to die I was good with it being her.
I have done the DB quests, not sure if I will continue until I am guild master though. I will say the Night Mother creeps the ever living hell out of me.
 
And you can actually chose to not do the quests and you will be given a different set of quests in replacement.
the DB will give you a diff set of quests if you turn down their first offers? are they diff in terms of killing and not killing?
Well if you knock of Astrid you get the destroy DB quests instead of the DB quests.
very interesting, this drastically changes the history of Skyrim btw.
I have done the DB quests, not sure if I will continue until I am guild master though. I will say the Night Mother creeps the ever living hell out of me.
I kind of enjoyed my intimate moments with her :lmao:
 
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Yeah this is why I killed Astrid instead of the hostages.
Wish I had, but that ship sailed. I had actually planned to go DB but then developed a conscious.
Well they had already tried to kill me once this game and I am a little peeved they popped up again after I wiped them out in Oblivion. So when she said someone had to die I was good with it being her.
What happens if I go to the DB hangout and just go in and kill everyone? Can that be done? Anyone? Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?
 
Yeah this is why I killed Astrid instead of the hostages.
Wish I had, but that ship sailed. I had actually planned to go DB but then developed a conscious.
Well they had already tried to kill me once this game and I am a little peeved they popped up again after I wiped them out in Oblivion. So when she said someone had to die I was good with it being her.
What happens if I go to the DB hangout and just go in and kill everyone? Can that be done? Anyone? Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?
I tried to do that to the Thieves Guild. They handed me my ###.
 
Yeah this is why I killed Astrid instead of the hostages.
Wish I had, but that ship sailed. I had actually planned to go DB but then developed a conscious.
Well they had already tried to kill me once this game and I am a little peeved they popped up again after I wiped them out in Oblivion. So when she said someone had to die I was good with it being her.
What happens if I go to the DB hangout and just go in and kill everyone? Can that be done? Anyone? Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?
I tried to do that to the Thieves Guild. They handed me my ###.
What level were you? At 55, I am pretty sure I can handle them. Unless it is one of those situations where they will just keep respawning infinitely. I guess I can just try it and find out. Tomorrow of course. If I try loading it up today, I will be the one getting my ### handed to me!
 
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Yeah this is why I killed Astrid instead of the hostages.
Wish I had, but that ship sailed. I had actually planned to go DB but then developed a conscious.
Well they had already tried to kill me once this game and I am a little peeved they popped up again after I wiped them out in Oblivion. So when she said someone had to die I was good with it being her.
What happens if I go to the DB hangout and just go in and kill everyone? Can that be done? Anyone? Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?
I tried to do that to the Thieves Guild. They handed me my ###.
What level were you? At 55, I am pretty sure I can handle them. Unless it is one of those situations where they will just keep respawning infinitely. I guess I can just try it and find out. Tomorrow of course. If I try loading it up today, I will be the one getting my ### handed to me!
No I was way low, like level 10 or something. Few weeks ago. I backed into a corner and was just swinging the two handed hammer like crazy, taking breaks and drinking potions and eating food when I needed to. Used my shouts as well. Got a bunch, but they got to me eventually. Was fun while it lasted though. I want to try that in the open, and eventually grab a horse and ride away to watch them chasing me.Just remember to save before you do such a thing lol.
 
Yeah this is why I killed Astrid instead of the hostages.
Wish I had, but that ship sailed. I had actually planned to go DB but then developed a conscious.
Well they had already tried to kill me once this game and I am a little peeved they popped up again after I wiped them out in Oblivion. So when she said someone had to die I was good with it being her.
What happens if I go to the DB hangout and just go in and kill everyone? Can that be done? Anyone? Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?
That is essentially the destroy the DB quest. You get the password from a capt of the guard, roll in and kill everyone.
 
Usually before I quite playing, I go on a rampage and kill everyone around me. When I've done that in the Thieves Guild, I've had no problems cleaning house.

 
Will I know when I've completed Riften, for example? How do you know when you've completed a city?
You'll know when one of them tells you they have a special job in that town (I think it is always Devlin that gives it but I could be wrong). If you try to pick up another sidequest, Vex will say something like "You need to complete Devlin's task, then we'll talk." So it should be obvious because he actually calls it a special job or something like that.
And to add to this, riften isn't one of the cities that will give you a special job. Markath, whiterun, wind helm, and maybe one more that escapes me.
 
Will I know when I've completed Riften, for example? How do you know when you've completed a city?
You'll know when one of them tells you they have a special job in that town (I think it is always Devlin that gives it but I could be wrong). If you try to pick up another sidequest, Vex will say something like "You need to complete Devlin's task, then we'll talk." So it should be obvious because he actually calls it a special job or something like that.
And to add to this, riften isn't one of the cities that will give you a special job. Markath, whiterun, wind helm, and maybe one more that escapes me.
Solitude? Another way to tell, when the fence's gold goes up, it means you finished one.
 
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Yeah this is why I killed Astrid instead of the hostages.
Wish I had, but that ship sailed. I had actually planned to go DB but then developed a conscious.
Well they had already tried to kill me once this game and I am a little peeved they popped up again after I wiped them out in Oblivion. So when she said someone had to die I was good with it being her.
What happens if I go to the DB hangout and just go in and kill everyone? Can that be done? Anyone? Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?
That is essentially the destroy the DB quest. You get the password from a capt of the guard, roll in and kill everyone.
:devil:
 
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Yeah this is why I killed Astrid instead of the hostages.
Wish I had, but that ship sailed. I had actually planned to go DB but then developed a conscious.
Well they had already tried to kill me once this game and I am a little peeved they popped up again after I wiped them out in Oblivion. So when she said someone had to die I was good with it being her.
What happens if I go to the DB hangout and just go in and kill everyone? Can that be done? Anyone? Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?
That is essentially the destroy the DB quest. You get the password from a capt of the guard, roll in and kill everyone.
:devil: I tried. Had a few minutes so went in swinging. Couldn't kill anyone. I would get them all to where they were conceding, but I could not kill them. Moments later, they'd all be back to full health. They couldn't kill me, but I couldn't kill them either.
 
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Will I know when I've completed Riften, for example? How do you know when you've completed a city?
You'll know when one of them tells you they have a special job in that town (I think it is always Devlin that gives it but I could be wrong). If you try to pick up another sidequest, Vex will say something like "You need to complete Devlin's task, then we'll talk." So it should be obvious because he actually calls it a special job or something like that.
And to add to this, riften isn't one of the cities that will give you a special job. Markath, whiterun, wind helm, and maybe one more that escapes me.
Solitude? Another way to tell, when the fence's gold goes up, it means you finished one.
Yeah, you can fail the Riften jobs right away as the Guild does not need influence there. There is no penalty for failing a job. Once you complete 5 jobs in one of those cities you'll be offered the special job for that city by Delvin. The only way to know how many you've done per city is to keep notes. Once you've completed a city, there's no need to keep doing jobs for that city (unless you just enjoy doing them).
 
Can anyone tell me a good mine or cave for mining malechite ore?

Edit: Disregard, found it on youtube.

 
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So I went up the light armor side of the Smithing tree and just opened up the dragon armor. I had one more perk to use and wanted to put it on the Daedric but it's not letting me. Did I have to go up the right side to unlock this??

 
So I went up the light armor side of the Smithing tree and just opened up the dragon armor. I had one more perk to use and wanted to put it on the Daedric but it's not letting me. Did I have to go up the right side to unlock this??
Yep, you have to go up both sides. You can't go up one side and then down the other.
 
So I went up the light armor side of the Smithing tree and just opened up the dragon armor. I had one more perk to use and wanted to put it on the Daedric but it's not letting me. Did I have to go up the right side to unlock this??
Yep, you have to go up both sides. You can't go up one side and then down the other.
I was planning on doing this as well to get the weapons :bag: oh well I guess glass weapons will do.
 
So I went up the light armor side of the Smithing tree and just opened up the dragon armor. I had one more perk to use and wanted to put it on the Daedric but it's not letting me. Did I have to go up the right side to unlock this??
Yep, you have to go up both sides. You can't go up one side and then down the other.
I was planning on doing this as well to get the weapons :bag: oh well I guess glass weapons will do.
Yeah, that's a bit of a punch in nuts. I'm just going to use the half a million ingrediants I have to level up and make some money.
 
Just got back into this after a short layoff.

I have a question, while walking towards the place needed to finish the Forbidden Legend quest, I saw Alduin circling a tower of light going up to the sky, then say something, then shoot something into the ground... What happened here?

I think I'm at the point where I need to start enchanting things. The enemies go down, but if they get in close, it's ovah.

 
Just got back into this after a short layoff. I have a question, while walking towards the place needed to finish the Forbidden Legend quest, I saw Alduin circling a tower of light going up to the sky, then say something, then shoot something into the ground... What happened here?I think I'm at the point where I need to start enchanting things. The enemies go down, but if they get in close, it's ovah.
I would start smithing as well. It will allow you to improve your weapons and armor to very high levels.
 
Just got back into this after a short layoff. I have a question, while walking towards the place needed to finish the Forbidden Legend quest, I saw Alduin circling a tower of light going up to the sky, then say something, then shoot something into the ground... What happened here?I think I'm at the point where I need to start enchanting things. The enemies go down, but if they get in close, it's ovah.
He is resurrecting a dragon. You can attack him while he is in the process of doing this and force him to bail, but it usually causes my game to start glitching pretty bad.
 
I have a ton of Dragon Bones that seem valuable to sell (I am light armor so only need dragon scales). Who will buy the dragon bones from me?

 
I have a ton of Dragon Bones that seem valuable to sell (I am light armor so only need dragon scales). Who will buy the dragon bones from me?
I know the trader in Riverwood buys them, I would assume anyone would. I have a few sets of dragonscale armor so I just make dragonplate or dragonscale armor and then sell those, it's worth more that way.
 
I have a ton of Dragon Bones that seem valuable to sell (I am light armor so only need dragon scales). Who will buy the dragon bones from me?
I know the trader in Riverwood buys them, I would assume anyone would. I have a few sets of dragonscale armor so I just make dragonplate or dragonscale armor and then sell those, it's worth more that way.
Ok I will try there. No one in white run would buy them from me.
 
I have a ton of Dragon Bones that seem valuable to sell (I am light armor so only need dragon scales). Who will buy the dragon bones from me?
I know the trader in Riverwood buys them, I would assume anyone would. I have a few sets of dragonscale armor so I just make dragonplate or dragonscale armor and then sell those, it's worth more that way.
Ok I will try there. No one in white run would buy them from me.
Belethor will. General Goods store next to the potion shop.
 
I have a ton of Dragon Bones that seem valuable to sell (I am light armor so only need dragon scales). Who will buy the dragon bones from me?
I quit picking them up. Admittedly, it is nice when you get to the point you don't need cash. It prevents you from having to pick up all this crap and waste time toting it around trying to sell it. I think I have well over 50 dragon bones in the chest in my home in Whiterun.
 
Just got back into this after a short layoff. I have a question, while walking towards the place needed to finish the Forbidden Legend quest, I saw Alduin circling a tower of light going up to the sky, then say something, then shoot something into the ground... What happened here?I think I'm at the point where I need to start enchanting things. The enemies go down, but if they get in close, it's ovah.
He is resurrecting a dragon. You can attack him while he is in the process of doing this and force him to bail, but it usually causes my game to start glitching pretty bad.
Wow, I never saw this! Sounds cool. Guess I missed out. Alduin won't be summoning anything anymore.
 
I have a ton of Dragon Bones that seem valuable to sell (I am light armor so only need dragon scales). Who will buy the dragon bones from me?
I know the trader in Riverwood buys them, I would assume anyone would. I have a few sets of dragonscale armor so I just make dragonplate or dragonscale armor and then sell those, it's worth more that way.
Apparently whenever I go to Riverwood a dragon comes and ends up killing people I like...Feandel (I think that's how to spell it lol) and now the shop owner. Does anyone ever pick his shop back up again or is this just going to remain empty forever now?

 
I have a ton of Dragon Bones that seem valuable to sell (I am light armor so only need dragon scales). Who will buy the dragon bones from me?
I know the trader in Riverwood buys them, I would assume anyone would. I have a few sets of dragonscale armor so I just make dragonplate or dragonscale armor and then sell those, it's worth more that way.
Apparently whenever I go to Riverwood a dragon comes and ends up killing people I like...Feandel (I think that's how to spell it lol) and now the shop owner. Does anyone ever pick his shop back up again or is this just going to remain empty forever now?
Yep it will forever remain empty. I had a similar thing happen with the blacksmith in Riverwood. Pretty sure his whole family was killed by the dragon, his house is always locked and I never see anyone. I broke in and no one was there and it didn't matter what time of the day it was, day, night, middle of the night, etc..
 

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