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Genrepalooza Presents: FG Radio - Tons of Lithium but very little Chill (6 Viewers)

Mrs. Eephus has always been the Goth fan in our house, in large part because of the fashion and makeup elements that don't interest me unless she asks me how she looks. 
What do you generally say when she ask how she looks? Do you like when she sports the Goth look?

 
What do you generally say when she ask how she looks? Do you like when she sports the Goth look?


I usually say can I get in the bathroom now?

She's too old and too Black to go full Goth so she usually just does her eye makeup and jewelery.  It's nice that she still makes the effort to look good when she goes out.  I stay home with Lou for most of the Goth shows anyway.

 
I usually say can I get in the bathroom now?

She's too old and too Black to go full Goth so she usually just does her eye makeup and jewelery.  It's nice that she still makes the effort to look good when she goes out.  I stay home with Lou for most of the Goth shows anyway.
I have some friends that I visit in Wilmington (NC), and in the late 90s there used to be this group of people that hung out downtown outside a convenience store. I always considered them the vampire people, but I think they may have been Goth. I can see it being fun to dress up Gothy when seeing a Goth show. It would be like going to a costume party. 

 
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Emo traces its lineage to Punk (IMO) while Goth is a tribal offshoot of Post-Punk.
I don't understand what "post-punk" means. I also see folks reference "post-rock" and I'm equally confused. I'm guessing I couldn't tell which side of the hair one was on from the other.

 
I don't understand what "post-punk" means. I also see folks reference "post-rock" and I'm equally confused. I'm guessing I couldn't tell which side of the hair one was on from the other.


Post-Punk has its origin in the UK bands that formed after the first wave of Punk self-destructed in 1978, e.g. Joy Division, The Human League, Magazine, PiL.

I can't describe Post-Rock but I know it when I hear it.

 
Post-Punk has its origin in the UK bands that formed after the first wave of Punk self-destructed in 1978, e.g. Joy Division, The Human League, Magazine, PiL.

I can't describe Post-Rock but I know it when I hear it.
Is it used for ANY UK band after 1978? I thought it referred to a sound or movement, but your description kinda makes it seem like just a calendar description. Because those you listed seem very different to me (Human League and PIL, especially, come across as polar opposites to my ears). I'm not trying to be a smart-###; I just don't understand the nuances. 

 
Is it used for ANY UK band after 1978? I thought it referred to a sound or movement, but your description kinda makes it seem like just a calendar description. Because those you listed seem very different to me (Human League and PIL, especially, come across as polar opposites to my ears). I'm not trying to be a smart-###; I just don't understand the nuances. 
I can't help you, cause it confuses me some too. The Cure says their music isn't Goth, but some of their music definitely sounds like it, and I say some of it is!  I saw them back in '91, I think, and they were so good. I wasn't expecting them to be so good, because I didn't think their sound would translate as good live, but I was very wrong.

 
I tend to overplay it when it comes to a musician's hypocritical stances about "integrity" like, oh I don't know.....let's pick a  random name out of a bag.... and the winner is......David Crosby! I don't really care about what the musicians themselves say, even a blowhard like Crosby who didn't even play an instrument on the records that made him a star. 
I just read an article today with McGuinn. Here's the last thing written:  The Byrds’ often fractious dynamic continues to this day. Earlier this month, McGuinn tweeted publicly to Crosby, “David… please unblock me.” (The two, who seemed to be on good standing after years of ups and downs, had a falling out in 2019.)  “I’m still blocked,” McGuinn says. “It didn’t work. We love David, but he’s just a little hard to get along with.”

Crosby always lives up to his reputation.

 
I just read an article today with McGuinn. Here's the last thing written:  The Byrds’ often fractious dynamic continues to this day. Earlier this month, McGuinn tweeted publicly to Crosby, “David… please unblock me.” (The two, who seemed to be on good standing after years of ups and downs, had a falling out in 2019.)  “I’m still blocked,” McGuinn says. “It didn’t work. We love David, but he’s just a little hard to get along with.”

Crosby always lives up to his reputation.
That Graham Nash is no longer speaking to Crosby speaks volumes. Nash was one of the few people to stick with him when he spiraled in the 70s and early 80s.

 
Is it used for ANY UK band after 1978? I thought it referred to a sound or movement, but your description kinda makes it seem like just a calendar description. Because those you listed seem very different to me (Human League and PIL, especially, come across as polar opposites to my ears). I'm not trying to be a smart-###; I just don't understand the nuances. 


UK 78-79 just is the point of origin for Post-Punk. The music radiated in many directions from there and endures today with bands inspired by the originals. 

The Human League was there in Sheffield for the birthing.  Their first album is a lot rougher than "Don't You Want Me".  Sheffield isn't a huge city but a lot of the first wave of Post-Punk came from there (as did Def Leppard around the same time).

 
Round 576

Category: Emo/Imo 

Song: Limousine

Artist: Brand New 

Hey, beauty supreme
Yeah, you were right about me
But can I get myself out from underneath
This guilt that will crush me?


And in the choir
I saw our sad Messiah
He was bored and tired of my laments
Said, "I died for you one time, but never again"


Never again, never again, never again, never again
Never again, never again, never again, never again


 
I can't help you, cause it confuses me some too. The Cure says their music isn't Goth, but some of their music definitely sounds like it, and I say some of it is! 
Andrew Eldritch claims that Sisters of Mercy aren't goth either.  Sure, dude.

 
We have two guys that could easily put a goth list together in scorchy and otb. Apparently I @"ted" them without much thought, because otb asked me if I wanted him to pick, and I told him to wait. 

Sorry, otb. I think you should be able to pick at least one song and tell us why it's goth. scorchy, too. 

That said, let it be known to everyone picking that you have two bona fide lovers of goth music staring over your shoulders, so don't #### it up! :)

 
I am still so confused. Does "scorchy, too" apply only to "tell us why it's goth" or to "pick at least one song" as well.




 Shake, Rattle, and Roll (songs with shake, rattle, or roll in the title or lyrics) (fifth roll)

Vegas (songs, about, from or inspired by Vegas) (fifth roll)

Emo/Imo (emo songs) (sixth roll - last chance!)

All Goth Radio (self-explanatory) (first roll

 
Just tell me what the hey it is.  Is it just dark, moody music or what?
Wikipedia says:

Gothic rock (also called goth rock or simply goth) is a style of rock music that emerged from post-punk in the United Kingdom in the late 1970s. The first post-punk bands which shifted toward dark music with gothic overtones include Depeche Mode,[2] Siouxsie and the Banshees,[3][4] Joy Division,[2][3][4][5] Bauhaus,[2][3][4] and the Cure.[2][3][4]

The genre itself was defined as a separate movement from post-punk. Gothic rock stood out due to its darker sound, with the use of primarily minor or bass chords, reverb, dark arrangements, or dramatic and melancholic melodies, having inspirations in gothic literature allied with themes such as sadness, nihilism, dark romanticism, tragedy, melancholy and morbidity. These themes are often approached poetically. The sensibilities of the genre led the lyrics to represent the evil of the century and the romantic idealization of death and the supernatural imagination. Gothic rock then gave rise to a broader goth subculture that included clubs, fashion and publications in the 1980s, 1990s, and into the 21st century.

 
Wikipedia says:

 Gothic rock then gave rise to a broader goth subculture that included clubs, fashion and publications in the 1980s, 1990s, and into the 21st century.


I disagree with this part.  The Goth scene always came before the music.  The person who edited that Wikipedia entry probably wasn't even born in 1982.

 
Pick a song, man. Explain to us why it's goth. We're counting on your expertise here. 
The early bands that get associated with goth pretty much all came from the post-punk scene.  The music just morphed into something less angular and jittery and more fluid and melodic.  Same emphasis on heavy bass lines, just with rhythms that made you dance instead of bounce or gyrate (as such:  How to Dance Like a 90's Goth).  The whole "pick up a penny from the floor and show it to God" move was my go-to.

TBH, I was much more on the industrial side of the house vs goth, though the scenes completely overlapped even if the music was a tad different.  I promise I never wore puffy white shirts or capes.  For goth, I always preferred the dancier/rockier stuff influenced by Sisters of Mercy - the ethereal 4AD bands were never really my bag.  The first song I picked is almost a straigh-up Sisters clone (dude couldn't sound more like Andrew Eldritch).  The second brings a Siouxsie-esque voice to the mix and the bass is more Disintegration-era Cure.

Kiss - London After Midnight

Clown - Switchblade Symphony

 
Dice Roll for the weekend - Rounds 578, 579, 580:

103 - 822 - 807 - 863 - 199

Chemistry 101 (songs about drugs) (fifth roll)

Songs In The Key Of Sea (songs about the sea) (second roll)

Illegal Noir Pulp (songs about criminality) (sixth roll - last chance)

Up/Downstairs (songs about up or downstairs) (sixth roll-last chance)

100 K (artists with under 100 K listens on Spotify) (fifth roll)

From Daytona to the Main Event: 

5 - 6

Songs That Make You Cry (songs that you cry to)

The Love Channel (not quite sure)

From The Hopper to Daytona: 

4 - 8

Pride (songs for, about, by  LGBT+)

New Orleans (songs by, for, about New Orleans)

 
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Love songs, particularly of the "adult contemporary" variety.
One would surmise that this channel abuts yacht rock, only it's for lovers. 

Smoooooth R&B, too. I can think of a few guys off of the top of my head. 

Anyway, just so everyone knows, the channel is in the Main Event now, and not rolled for Friday, Saturday, or Sunday. No jumping the gun helping your father get his channel back, simey! 

 
Anyway, just so everyone knows, the channel is in the Main Event now, and not rolled for Friday, Saturday, or Sunday. No jumping the gun helping your father get his channel back, simey! 


I always put the Dayton housekeeping rolls in a separate post to keep them from getting mixed up with the daily categories.

 
I always put the Dayton housekeeping rolls in a separate post to keep them from getting mixed up with the daily categories.


Wicked smaht. I was doing that, too. I would title the post "Accounting." I wonder what made me stop . . . oh yeah, laziness. I'll change it back to the original way. Thanks! 

 
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@EephusThese picks aren't yet on the Horny Time playlist:

Breakout by Swing Out Sister

Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car by Billy Ocean

Vehicle by The Ides of March

Reward by The Teardrop Explodes

Flip, Flop & Fly by The Blues Brothers

Beginnings by Chicago

Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads by Snuff

 
@EephusThese picks aren't yet on the Horny Time playlist:

Breakout by Swing Out Sister

Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car by Billy Ocean

Vehicle by The Ides of March

Reward by The Teardrop Explodes

Flip, Flop & Fly by The Blues Brothers

Beginnings by Chicago

Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads by Snuff


Thanks. 

See simey, I never gave this playlist a custom image and forgot it was mine

 
simey said:
What did you wear?   :pics:
Pretty boring actually. A lot of Florida goths were fully dedicated to the aesthetic despite the heat. Not me. Primarily a black band tee* with a long sleeve shirt underneath, army shorts, and Doc Marten boots. For special occasions, I pulled out these sweet camo thigh-highs (held up with duct tape) that looked amazing with the rest of the get-up.

*Apparently, the first time my wife saw me, I rolled into an elevator on Rollerblades wearing a black NIN-Broken tee.  She was shocked that we both went into the same classroom and that I turned out to be the TA. To this day, she won't let me get rid of that shirt. Rollerblades are long gone though.

 

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