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FixedWow, Norway has 10 rappers?
I don't pop molly
I rock Tom Fjord
International bring back the Concorde
Numbers don't lie check the scoreboard
.......of the biathlon, yo!
FixedWow, Norway has 10 rappers?
I don't pop molly
I rock Tom Fjord
International bring back the Concorde
Numbers don't lie check the scoreboard
.......of the biathlon, yo!
Even if they got knocked down, I bet they’d get up again.Hey guys, I vetted Chumbawamba for you - they are good to go.
Something something drunken liveblog something something"It don't matter when it'sIt's ineligible because Linda is on it.
- Paul McCartney – lead vocal, piano
- Linda McCartney – backing vocal, keyboards
- Eric Stewart – backing vocal
- David Gilmour – guitar
- Herbie Flowers – bass
- Anne Dudley – synthesizer
- Stuart Elliott – drums
Arcturiana solo artist!"
Seriously ... if the album sleeve just has a solo artist's name, the pick is good.
Good deal, if Krista4 blesses it, it's back on the list!
Define “blesses it.”
Yes, it’s eligible.
Your thread, your rules is all I meant. Good deal, thanks. So, from now on I'll just put in the list (check page one of the thread) and submit it so I don't spoil the rest of the list here.
My "define 'blesses it'" was an attempt at a joke because I don't like the song all that much.
I've put together the data from lists #1-5. It's early to spot big trends, but here are some bits and pieces:
- Are the Big Three performing as expected? Why yes, yes they are. They are currently occupying the top three slots, despite Voter #4* not listing a song from any of them. The other four voters have each listed them once.
- In addition to the Big Three, there are six additional artists that have been listed four times each. One of those was, IIRC, not listed in the guesses for top choices. This artist is currently at #5 and has three votes for the same song, which is currently the second-ranked song in the countdown.
- The current "we like you, but we don't like like you" artist has four votes accounting for only 50 total points. In contrast, the highest number of points right now (also with four votes) is 109.
- On the other hand, the "when we love you, we really love you" award goes to an artist with 80 points but only three votes.
- As previously reported, we have two songs with three votes so far, and those two lead the song ballots at the moment. There are several others with two votes, including one that is only 10 points behind the second-place song.
- Each of our Big Three has at least one song that has received multiple votes. Our current #4 artist has four votes, all for different songs.
*Everyone is getting a Voter # this time to aid in my reporting of data in the future, including matchmaking with your closest allies-of-song. I have made sure that @simey is not stuck with #9.**
**#9 Dream by John Lennon is eligible in this countdown.
Can we guess who Voter #4 is?
I know they are a loner ...a rebel
My #1 is everyone else's? Nice.Wow, only seven lists into putting together the data, and we already have our first Menage FaLaLa Trois.* And it's at a high number of points. Could it turn out to be "The Boxer" of the British Isles list?**
*For the uninitiated, a Menage FaLaLa Trois is a song receiving exactly the same ranking from three different people.
**For those still uninitiated, "The Boxer" came seemingly out of nowhere to take the overall #2 ranking in the US countdown, due to having all its votes very high on people's lists.
I think it's Wannabe, by Spice GirlsWow, only seven lists into putting together the data, and we already have our first Menage FaLaLa Trois.* And it's at a high number of points. Could it turn out to be "The Boxer" of the British Isles list?**
*For the uninitiated, a Menage FaLaLa Trois is a song receiving exactly the same ranking from three different people.
**For those still uninitiated, "The Boxer" came seemingly out of nowhere to take the overall #2 ranking in the US countdown, due to having all its votes very high on people's lists.
Hey, @krista4. It is easier if we send a spreadsheet like an Excel one? I assume we could make a Google Documents sheet and just send you the address to it. Because the rank ordering service exports to a .csv spreadsheet, which can then be saved as an .xls. That way, if you use the initial rank order list to list the song and then the band/artist, you can export it, and it's already ranked in spreadsheet form.
Just takes a little more time.
It occurred to me that perhaps not everyone has read every post in my original Beatles countdown or in Zegras's follow-on countdown earlier this year. Later we'll get into the reasons that that is unforgiveable, but for now I wanted to make sure those who haven't know that we count the Abbey Road medley as one song for all of these purposes.
I feel like theres more of these. Floyd has at least one off the top of my headIt occurred to me that perhaps not everyone has read every post in my original Beatles countdown or in Zegras's follow-on countdown earlier this year. Later we'll get into the reasons that that is unforgiveable, but for now I wanted to make sure those who haven't know that we count the Abbey Road medley as one song for all of these purposes.
I feel like theres more of these. Floyd has at least one off the top of my headIt occurred to me that perhaps not everyone has read every post in my original Beatles countdown or in Zegras's follow-on countdown earlier this year. Later we'll get into the reasons that that is unforgiveable, but for now I wanted to make sure those who haven't know that we count the Abbey Road medley as one song for all of these purposes.
PM sent. Starting timer.If you have a question about whether something is considered one or two songs, please feel free to PM, as someone just did.
PM sent. Starting timer.If you have a question about whether something is considered one or two songs, please feel free to PM, as someone just did.
Seven minutes. Most impressive.PM sent. Starting timer.If you have a question about whether something is considered one or two songs, please feel free to PM, as someone just did.
If you can’t put the playlist on shuffle it’s two different songs -![]()
G-d, this sounds rough. I hope you come through okay and sorry this is so ridiculous and awful.I've put together nine lists of data, and I think the trends are interesting. But before I do the tenth, I need to take a break to vent. We used to do that with each other, right? Sorry for diversion, and those of you who read my posts, which is none of you, could just skip this.
Remember, if you read my posts in the last countdown, which you didn't, that I mentioned have something really ****ty happening in my life? Here's the shortest version I can muster, copying some of my own email to someone here several weeks ago:
I've been in a secondment to a company since October 2013, meaning I spend 100% of my time working for them, but they aren't my employer. I very purposefully got out of the rat race in 2013, so this is a good situation where I can add value without getting enmeshed in corporate ********, since I'm not actually an employee of the company, and I don’t have to have a “boss.”
I AM REALLY ****ING GOOD AT MY JOB.
Sorry, has been a busy workday, so I've mostly shirked responsibilities here. I wanted to share a ruling I made via PM this morning, just in case this occurs to anyone else.
I learned from a very smart person that the song "Watching the Wheels," when released as a posthumous single, was credited on its label only to John Lennon. I guess my Beatles expert badge will be revoked since I didn't know this. However, I'm still ruling that song ineligible for a couple of reasons. First, it was initially released on the Double Fantasy album, which was credited to John and Yoko. This is not a situation where a different, later version is a solo work (his having been murdered and all), but instead it is exactly the same recording with a different attribution. I'm going with the first release as definitive. Second, since I had already deemed Double Fantasy ineligible based on a prior public inquiry, I wouldn't want to open a new can of worms by suddenly allowing a song I know others would have taken if given the opportunity.
Very cool.But wait...this is the thing that made me actually break down in tears and was so crazy. I learned that almost everyone on our team reached out and offered to take a PAY CUT to keep me. Seriously. Have you ever known something like that? I haven't, and the dude in charge hadn't either. He was blown away.
Wow. You are spectacular at your job. You just need more confidence in that. Literally everyone just told you so. If you still need a hat, I'm pretty sure something suitably Texan can be found.TLDR - I could lose my job and need hats.
There was a revolt. Outrage. It seems an overstatement, but it isn't. Every single person on our team (12-13?) reached out in one form or another to protest. The business team that I work with did the same. Even people whom I work with more tangentially did this! I received so much support that it's amazing. The head of the group said that he had never seen anything like it in his 30 years of experience. I got the most amazing emails and phone calls I heard from business people that I am, "far and away the best lawyer I've ever known." I heard from another lawyer in a different group that I am their "favorite lawyer of all time." I heard from five people directly that they cried over my departure. One of the paralegals said the dude in charge should do away with xx lawyer instead. Another paralegal said he should do away with the same xx lawyer but also the first paralegal instead. Frankly they're right as I do both those people's jobs in addition to my own.
But wait...this is the thing that made me actually break down in tears and was so crazy. I learned that almost everyone on our team reached out and offered to take a PAY CUT to keep me. Seriously. Have you ever known something like that? I haven't, and the dude in charge hadn't either. He was blown away.
G-d, this sounds rough. I hope you come through okay and sorry this is so ridiculous and awful.
Wow. You are spectacular at your job. You just need more confidence in that. Literally everyone just told you so. If you still need a hat, I'm pretty sure something suitably Texan can be found.TLDR - I could lose my job and need hats.
Just need a hat size.
Wow, it's got to be hell to go through that. But:
There was a revolt. Outrage. It seems an overstatement, but it isn't. Every single person on our team (12-13?) reached out in one form or another to protest. The business team that I work with did the same. Even people whom I work with more tangentially did this! I received so much support that it's amazing. The head of the group said that he had never seen anything like it in his 30 years of experience. I got the most amazing emails and phone calls I heard from business people that I am, "far and away the best lawyer I've ever known." I heard from another lawyer in a different group that I am their "favorite lawyer of all time." I heard from five people directly that they cried over my departure. One of the paralegals said the dude in charge should do away with xx lawyer instead. Another paralegal said he should do away with the same xx lawyer but also the first paralegal instead. Frankly they're right as I do both those people's jobs in addition to my own.
But wait...this is the thing that made me actually break down in tears and was so crazy. I learned that almost everyone on our team reached out and offered to take a PAY CUT to keep me. Seriously. Have you ever known something like that? I haven't, and the dude in charge hadn't either. He was blown away.
This shows so much about how well you do your job and how valued you are. People going to bat for others to this extent is VERY rare. No matter what happens, never forget that you made a profound contribution to so many people's lives and jobs. Hope it all works out.
Sorry for diversion, and those of you who read my posts, which is none of you, could just skip this.
"Very smart" you say?
Sorry for diversion, and those of you who read my posts, which is none of you, could just skip this.
You shouldn't be sorry at all. And if you're anything there like you are around here, I'm unsurprised that your co-workers reacted the way they did. In fact, I know you're floored, but it just seems right.
You're a brilliant person, k4. And you have a good demeanor and a good head about yourself. I hope they indeed value you appropriately.
Here ya go...I have an embarrassingly large head for a woman
Literally none of this ( their support of you) surprises me.I've put together nine lists of data, and I think the trends are interesting. But before I do the tenth, I need to take a break to vent. We used to do that with each other, right? Sorry for diversion, and those of you who read my posts, which is none of you, could just skip this.
Remember, if you read my posts in the last countdown, which you didn't, that I mentioned have something really ****ty happening in my life? Here's the shortest version I can muster, copying some of my own email to someone here several weeks ago:
I've been in a secondment to a company since October 2013, meaning I spend 100% of my time working for them, but they aren't my employer. I very purposefully got out of the rat race in 2013, so this is a good situation where I can add value without getting enmeshed in corporate ********, since I'm not actually an employee of the company, and I don’t have to have a “boss.”
I AM REALLY ****ING GOOD AT MY JOB.
It's the one thing I am completely confident in, that I know I do my job better than...well, anyone else I deal with.
Last quarter, this company reported way-below-expectations earnings. They have also had increased ownership from a famous investor. All of that combined to result in a desire for a big cut in the G&A line of their budget.
You see where I'm going?
On October 31 (Monday afternoon) I got a meeting request from the head of the group I work within, entitled "Quick check-in" and scheduled for 15 minutes on Tuesday morning. I haven't talked to him one-on-one in...five years? More? Weird. I got on the phone Tuesday morning, and he told me that they are cutting their "outside counsel" spend by 80% because deal flow is slowing. And despite my being told I was part of the "team" and being treated as a "teammate" for 9+ years, I was basically a line-item on a spreadsheet somewhere that said "guest teammate - outside counsel," and was too expensive to keep.
Nine years. Zero warning or idea it was coming. And, dare I say (and not a single person in the group would disagree), by far the most productive member of their "team." But I am also by far the most expensive person they have, in large part due to my actual employer’s cut on top of my salary.
We have a team meeting every other Tuesday, and that week it came about two hours after this news. He told me I could skip the meeting or join, and I said I'd be fine to attend as usual.
He broke the news to the team. Silence. Dead silence. He asked once or twice for any thoughts. Dead silence. Then, one of the paralegals spoke up and demanded a meeting with him right away. Then, more dead silence.
I've written this in such dramatic fashion that I think the rest is going to seem even more over-dramatized. But...it's been chaos. There was a revolt. Outrage. It seems an overstatement, but it isn't. Every single person on our team (12-13?) reached out in one form or another to protest. The business team that I work with did the same. Even people whom I work with more tangentially did this! I received so much support that it's amazing. The head of the group said that he had never seen anything like it in his 30 years of experience. I got the most amazing emails and phone calls. I heard from business people that I am, "far and away the best lawyer I've ever known." I heard from another lawyer in a different group that I am their "favorite lawyer of all time." I heard from five people directly that they cried over my departure. One of the paralegals told the dude in charge he should do away with xx lawyer instead. Another paralegal said he should do away with the same xx lawyer but also the first paralegal instead. Frankly they're right as I do both those people's jobs in addition to my own.
But wait...this is the thing that made me actually break down in tears and was so crazy. I learned that almost everyone on our team reached out and offered to take a PAY CUT to keep me. Seriously. Have you ever known something like that? I haven't, and the dude in charge hadn't either. He was blown away.
That all started November 1. My current status? Still in flux, except that they have been working on a package to offer me to come work directly for them, because the head of the group has been getting daily reminders from people that "he's an idiot" (he's told me this). First they had to negotiate with my actual employer, to which they owed a fee of 50% of my salary to "poach" me. Wha??? Insane. Apparently they've negotiated that down to 10%. Then they've had to go through all the corporate hurdles to put together the position description.
And then today? I got to "apply for" my job. It's all a formality, but they have to post the job officially for several days before they can make an offer to me. But I had to fill in the online form and crap like that so that HR has a record of my application.
I don't really like the idea of being in the corporate world officially again, but it would give me more security. And I like the idea of being 100% part of a team again. And managing people again, which was always the part I loved/hated most. We'll see what the package looks like. And in the midst of all this I was vowing to make a bunch of charitable contributions here that had me kinda bummed as I was simultaneously canceling my lawn guy and canceling a vacation just in case.
Anyway, I've been a lawyer for more years than I'd like to admit, and not once during that time have I ever had any inkling that I was less than spectacular at my job. This was the same - it is completely money and it appears they can afford me internally but not as external counsel - but it was just crushing to me to feel like I was in any sense "not worth it." I've poured my heart and soul and sweat and a few tears into this job as I always do. I know that's acknowledged, but it really shook me to my core for a while. And, not exaggerating, my hair started falling out. Holy ****.
TLDR - I could lose my job, and I need hats.
Nope.Stop saying nice things to me!![]()
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The Mannings look so charming in a big hat.
Do you think it will fit?The Mannings look so charming in a bit hat.
canceling a vacation just in case.
I thought you were a kindergarten teacher...I've put together nine lists of data, and I think the trends are interesting. But before I do the tenth, I need to take a break to vent. We used to do that with each other, right? Sorry for diversion, and those of you who read my posts, which is none of you, could just skip this.
Remember, if you read my posts in the last countdown, which you didn't, that I mentioned have something really ****ty happening in my life? Here's the shortest version I can muster, copying some of my own email to someone here several weeks ago:
I've been in a secondment to a company since October 2013, meaning I spend 100% of my time working for them, but they aren't my employer. I very purposefully got out of the rat race in 2013, so this is a good situation where I can add value without getting enmeshed in corporate ********, since I'm not actually an employee of the company, and I don’t have to have a “boss.”
I AM REALLY ****ING GOOD AT MY JOB.
It's the one thing I am completely confident in, that I know I do my job better than...well, anyone else I deal with.
Last quarter, this company reported way-below-expectations earnings. They have also had increased ownership from a famous investor. All of that combined to result in a desire for a big cut in the G&A line of their budget.
You see where I'm going?
On October 31 (Monday afternoon) I got a meeting request from the head of the group I work within, entitled "Quick check-in" and scheduled for 15 minutes on Tuesday morning. I haven't talked to him one-on-one in...five years? More? Weird. I got on the phone Tuesday morning, and he told me that they are cutting their "outside counsel" spend by 80% because deal flow is slowing. And despite my being told I was part of the "team" and being treated as a "teammate" for 9+ years, I was basically a line-item on a spreadsheet somewhere that said "guest teammate - outside counsel," and was too expensive to keep.
Nine years. Zero warning or idea it was coming. And, dare I say (and not a single person in the group would disagree), by far the most productive member of their "team." But I am also by far the most expensive person they have, in large part due to my actual employer’s cut on top of my salary.
We have a team meeting every other Tuesday, and that week it came about two hours after this news. He told me I could skip the meeting or join, and I said I'd be fine to attend as usual.
He broke the news to the team. Silence. Dead silence. He asked once or twice for any thoughts. Dead silence. Then, one of the paralegals spoke up and demanded a meeting with him right away. Then, more dead silence.
I've written this in such dramatic fashion that I think the rest is going to seem even more over-dramatized. But...it's been chaos. There was a revolt. Outrage. It seems an overstatement, but it isn't. Every single person on our team (12-13?) reached out in one form or another to protest. The business team that I work with did the same. Even people whom I work with more tangentially did this! I received so much support that it's amazing. The head of the group said that he had never seen anything like it in his 30 years of experience. I got the most amazing emails and phone calls. I heard from business people that I am, "far and away the best lawyer I've ever known." I heard from another lawyer in a different group that I am their "favorite lawyer of all time." I heard from five people directly that they cried over my departure. One of the paralegals told the dude in charge he should do away with xx lawyer instead. Another paralegal said he should do away with the same xx lawyer but also the first paralegal instead. Frankly they're right as I do both those people's jobs in addition to my own.
But wait...this is the thing that made me actually break down in tears and was so crazy. I learned that almost everyone on our team reached out and offered to take a PAY CUT to keep me. Seriously. Have you ever known something like that? I haven't, and the dude in charge hadn't either. He was blown away.
That all started November 1. My current status? Still in flux, except that they have been working on a package to offer me to come work directly for them, because the head of the group has been getting daily reminders from people that "he's an idiot" (he's told me this). First they had to negotiate with my actual employer, to which they owed a fee of 50% of my salary to "poach" me. Wha??? Insane. Apparently they've negotiated that down to 10%. Then they've had to go through all the corporate hurdles to put together the position description.
And then today? I got to "apply for" my job. It's all a formality, but they have to post the job officially for several days before they can make an offer to me. But I had to fill in the online form and crap like that so that HR has a record of my application.
I don't really like the idea of being in the corporate world officially again, but it would give me more security. And I like the idea of being 100% part of a team again. And managing people again, which was always the part I loved/hated most. We'll see what the package looks like. And in the midst of all this I was vowing to make a bunch of charitable contributions here that had me kinda bummed as I was simultaneously canceling my lawn guy and canceling a vacation just in case.
Anyway, I've been a lawyer for more years than I'd like to admit, and not once during that time have I ever had any inkling that I was less than spectacular at my job. This was the same - it is completely money and it appears they can afford me internally but not as external counsel - but it was just crushing to me to feel like I was in any sense "not worth it." I've poured my heart and soul and sweat and a few tears into this job as I always do. I know that's acknowledged, but it really shook me to my core for a while. And, not exaggerating, my hair started falling out. Holy ****.
TLDR - I could lose my job, and I need hats.