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Getcha passports ready - the middle-aged dummies are going to the British Isles! Top 31 song countdown. (4 Viewers)

Folks, thanks for all of your work. This was a lot of fun. And very interesting to see the way in which our picks really did converge on a smaller group. Most of us suggested this might happen, and that's precisely how it turned out. I am in agreement with Krista that the "Ace Award" going somehow to Mark Ronson for bringing coffee and donuts to Amy Winehouse's recording session is some weaksauce (the reason I picked her version with his dumbass), but what can you do. But this has been really interesting to see how it all diverged from the US version. Looking forward to the next one, though of course I well understand if everyone, especially Krista, needs a long break.


And a few thoughts on the ultimate top 12:

Favorite Songs from British Isles Artists According to Middle-Aged Dummies:
1. Gimme Shelter - 217 -- I figured this would be the #1 Stones tune, if not #1 overall. It's a good consensus pick. I could have easily put it on my list. It's iconic, naturally. There's a reason it shows up in every Scorsese movie (besides his need to contemporize).

2. Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding - 205 - My #1. Glad to see so many others landed on this as well.

3. Into the Mystic - 195 - This is a particularly nice tune, and also a noted misdirection from the more anthemic rockers that dominate this list.

4. Baba O’Riley - 181 - Like this one. Also classic.

5. Comfortably Numb - 177 - Moving on.

6. Paint It, Black – 154 - The Stones are really something. You think you've heard this song enough times, and then it somehow comes out and surprises you later on.

TIE 7. Solsbury Hill - 150 - Great debut here for Gabriel.

TIE 7. A Day in the Life – 150 - Could have been one of a million choices on the Beatles here. I would not have picked this if I'd gone with something more iconic (maybe "Eleanor Rigby.") Who cares, though. It's a terrific song.

TIE 9. Heroes - 148 - My #4 song. It's so great.

TIE 9. Waterloo Sunset - 148 - Very nice tune.

11. When the Levee Breaks - 143 - I figured this would end up as the #1 Zep tune; we're just not a Stairway crowd. Someone else said this was the best, pure, rawest distillation of LZ's blues power, and that's about right. I was never into music as a kid and a young teen, so I probably didn't put IV on until I was what, 14? Maybe even 15? I remember liking the first two numbers, feeling like I needed to come back to The Battle of Evermore (I did, and love it now), obviously knowing Stairway, getting a kick out of Misty Mountain (still do), sorta meh on Four Sticks (not anymore), figuring Going to California was a quiet, nice one, and then this one came on and blew me out of the room, like Marty McFly plugging in that oversized amp.

12. Train in Vain - 137 - I always thought with the right arrangement this could be a doowop song. Think about it.
 
Contest results!

***OFFICIAL*** contest winners: Just Win Baby and Pip’s Invitation, with a total of seven points and a win in the tiebreaker over Eephus (lost by only six points in the tiebreaker), scorchy, AAABatteries, and contest-master Val Rannous. Despite applying two tie-breakers, this one will be split because they selected exactly the same answers!

No one correctly guessed the highest-scoring non-Big-3 song, but each of these individuals predicted six of the seven artists filling out the top 10, as well as the top overall point-getter.

SUPER-AWESOME-MEGA-CONTEST!!!111 winner: Pip’s Invitation, with an impressive total of 10 correct!
As per our PM discussion, to spread the wealth, I will designate the funds from the SUPER-AWESOME-MEGA-CONTEST!!!! and would like to have Just Win Baby and Eephus split designating the funds from the ***OFFICIAL*** contest.

For my designation, I would like my share of the funds to go to The Center for Family Services, of which my employer is a major supporter. https://www.centerffs.org/

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Whether it’s a child who is ready for preschool, a teen in need of the support of a mentor, a child without a safe place to call home, a family facing the trauma of domestic violence, a person seeking help for an addiction, or a family in crisis, Center For Family Services is trusted to help people heal, find comfort, and build the foundation for a successful future.

Due to medical and veterinary bills we racked up last year, I was not able to contribute much to the holiday drive that my company did for the CFS, so this would be a great way for me to make up for that.
 
Billy Idol got less, less, less than I expected. More than surprised in the only one with Rebel Yell.
Maybe it's because the song sucks?
I kid, I kid!
One day I was driving with my, at the time teenage, daughter. Rebel Yell comes on and I go to town - full sneering lip thing, fist pumping, singing loudly. She was jamming along, but more subdued.

We come to a stoplight and she starts smiling and points for me to look out my window at the people next to us - Who are laughing near hysterically. Not at me, but with me because - they were doing the same thing! As the light turned and we went our separate ways, we all could be heard through our rolled down windows screaming "MORE! MORE! MO-ERRR!!"
 
4: Elton John: 686

TIE 5: David Bowie: 648

TIE 5: The Who: 648

7: Pink Floyd: 644

8: The Kinks: 581


9: U2: 572


10: Van Morrison: 431

Dang -- got six of the seven in Val's contest. Didn't see Van Morrison coming, and thought Oasis would have a lot more stroke with this crew. Fun contest all the same.

...

What was I smoking to tap U2 as the #1 overall act? Overthought that pretty severely :bag:
I'm not sure, but do you deliver?
 
"Echoes" on the many thanks for doing this, Krista and all - very much appreciated. (y)

Pip’s Invitation:

Dogs -- Pink Floyd
(new song)

zamboni:

Echoes - Pink Floyd
(new song)
Average length of 20:18 seconds here :hifive:
I did laugh when I saw those 2 Floyd tracks pop up today.
Charade you are 🙂
Dogs should have been my Floyd pick in hindsight. I started there, hit shuffle and 3rd song up was Echoes, so I started the mix off nicely. 🎧
 
Pip’s Invitation:

Dogs -- Pink Floyd
(new song)

I think this is Pink Floyd's greatest achievement in a career with many of them. It's got heroic guitar work, chilling atmospherics and biting social commentary, all of which are hallmarks of many of the greatest British rock songs. It's 17 minutes long but feels much shorter than that -- every note has a purpose and nothing meanders. I think it may also have the greatest vocals of any Floyd song. David Gilmour's voice on the first two-thirds of the song is heart-wrenching, and while I normally don't care much for Roger Waters' voice, his work on the last third is extremely compelling as well.

When I had dropped the hint that Echoes wasn't on my list (because I said my longest song was 22 minutes and Echoes is 23), Zamboni PM'd me to say Echoes was his #1 but he had a hard time not including Dogs (because he did one song per artist, as many of us did). Well, the same was true for me in reverse! So I think we are both happy with how this turned out.
 
I finally got to see Sir Elton on his farewell tour at Giants Stadium this past summer. Other than "Have Mercy on the Criminal," a song I did not know until that point, it's a pretty chalky set list (which, for Elton John, happens to mean 25 pretty damned well-known songs and skipping a bunch that would have otherwise sat comfortably in that mix, but no Amoreena or Grey Seal or anything).

Still, the moment of greatest power came from Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding, which deserves all of its epic accolades and easily why I put it on my list at the top. In the years of the Firecracker 500 (when I and Pip were always listening to it), it was always the one that came near the top for Elton - usually lower end of the top 10, maybe 10-20. Generally every rock band's "epic" ends up near the top, some of which is undeserved (looking in the direction of the Eagles), but in his case, it's well deserved. He does very few epics; mostly pretty tight pop tunes with the rare exception like All the Girls Love Alice, and even that's just 5 minutes long. Led Zep he ain't.
 
For my designation, I would like my share of the funds to go to The Center for Family Services, of which my employer is a major supporter. https://www.centerffs.org/
How does this work @krista4, would I make the donation in Pip's name? Do I need his real name?

With limited exceptions where I knew someone's real name (like when you won a portion of my post-Beatles Beatles thread contest), I just donate anonymously.
 
I finally got to see Sir Elton on his farewell tour at Giants Stadium this past summer. Other than "Have Mercy on the Criminal," a song I did not know until that point, it's a pretty chalky set list (which, for Elton John, happens to mean 25 pretty damned well-known songs and skipping a bunch that would have otherwise sat comfortably in that mix, but no Amoreena or Grey Seal or anything).

Still, the moment of greatest power came from Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding, which deserves all of its epic accolades and easily why I put it on my list at the top. In the years of the Firecracker 500 (when I and Pip were always listening to it), it was always the one that came near the top for Elton - usually lower end of the top 10, maybe 10-20. Generally every rock band's "epic" ends up near the top, some of which is undeserved (looking in the direction of the Eagles), but in his case, it's well deserved. He does very few epics; mostly pretty tight pop tunes with the rare exception like All the Girls Love Alice, and even that's just 5 minutes long. Led Zep he ain't.
Funny you mention the Firecracker 500 - on WNEW (102.7) in NYC, if I recall correctly. Pretty sure I first heard the tune on that countdown way back in the day and was blown away by it. May have even had a Priest Holmes moment by being #1 overall that year.
 
This was a fun exercise, thanks @krista4, @Hawks64 , and @falguy .

Hope me making fun of Def Leppard did not offend anyone. I was mostly making fun of myself because they are pretty well liked by the masses here. Luckily, if the catchall contest goes down, there are no bands (Canadian, for instance) that I can think of to make mean comments about.
I foresee Rush and Nickelback getting dumped on. And probably at least half my list if I get one in
 
This was a fun exercise, thanks @krista4, @Hawks64 , and @falguy .

Hope me making fun of Def Leppard did not offend anyone. I was mostly making fun of myself because they are pretty well liked by the masses here. Luckily, if the catchall contest goes down, there are no bands (Canadian, for instance) that I can think of to make mean comments about.
I foresee Rush and Nickelback getting dumped on. And probably at least half my list if I get one in
There will be blood.
 

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In memory of Pip's Invitation. :oldunsure:
 
Great list today. The top 25 list is absolutely fantastic. I have a few more cuts to make on the Catch-All list, but I will be ready whenever that comes around.

Thanks everybody who put this together and thanks to everyone who participated.
 
Updates made to the spreadsheet. I may add a few additional tabs if I can get the formulas to work. It's not as if I'm a maven, here. Just another idiot.

Here's the chalky list. Not sure if Krista has this data. It's in the spreadsheet also.

FBG NameTotal Points
Yankee23Fan2229
Westerberg2034
worrierking1909
falguy1847
Dr. Octopus1835
Just Win Baby1793
Chaos341696
AAABatteries1683
Hov341624
Andy Dufresne1621
Zegras111583
Don Quixote1577
New Binky the Doormat1576
shuke1567
Pip's Invitation1539
DrIanMalcolm1473
jwb1457
landrys hat1404
Manster1396
Val Rannous1388
simey1363
The Dreaded Marco1327
Mister CIA1299
krista41246
cosjobs1216
scorchy1212
Doug B1209
MAC_321199
Chaz McNulty1191
Ilov80s1182
zamboni1110
simsarge1106
Mrs. Rannous1096
KarmaPolice1077
Sullie1068
rockaction1065
Mt. Man1059
Eephus1054
Hawks641011
timschochet943
higgins869
Oliver Humanzee759
titusbramble657
Mrs. Eephus653
ditkaburgers617
 
Here is a list of every song from this countdown that I have seen performed live, whether by the original artist or someone else:

1921 -- The Who -- by The Who
Abbey Road Medley -- The Beatles -- by Trey Anastasio
Accidents Will Happen -- Elvis Costello -- by Elvis Costello
Ace of Spades -- Motorhead -- by Ween
A Day in the Life -- The Beatles -- by Phish and by Neil Young
Alison -- Elvis Costello -- by Elvis Costello and Allen Toussaint
All Day and All of the Night -- The Kinks -- by The Kinks
All I Want Is You -- U2 -- by U2
All Things Must Pass -- George Harrison -- by Gene Ween
Another Brick in the Wall -- Pink Floyd -- by Pink Floyd (x2)
A Whiter Shade of Pale -- Procol Harum -- by Procol Harum
Baba O'Riley -- The Who -- by The Who and by Pearl Jam
Bad -- U2 -- by U2 (x2)
Bang a Gong -- T. Rex -- by Sam Champion
Can't You Hear Me Knocking -- The Rolling Stones -- by the Rolling Stones
Cause We've Ended as Lovers -- Jeff Beck -- by Jeff Beck
Celluloid Heroes -- The Kinks -- by The Kinks
Champagne Supernova -- Oasis -- by Phish
Come Dancing -- The Kinks -- by The Kinks
Come Together -- The Beatles -- by Umphrey's McGee and by Ambrosia
Comfortably Numb -- Pink Floyd -- by Pink Floyd (x2) and by David Gilmour
Conquistador -- Procol Harum -- by Procol Harum
Dear Mr. Fantasy -- Traffic -- by Traffic, by Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood and by Steve Winwood
Desire -- U2 -- by U2
Destroyer -- The Kinks -- by The Kinks
Don't Ask Me Questions -- Graham Parker -- by Graham Parker
Echoes -- Pink Floyd -- by Pink Floyd, by David Gilmour and by Echoes (a Ween side project whose entire set is a very long version of this song)
Eleanor Rigby -- The Beatles -- by Ambrosia
Empty Pages -- Traffic -- by Traffic
Fearless -- Pink Floyd -- by Crescent Moon and by Instant Death
Firth of Fifth -- Genesis -- by Genesis (as part of a medley)
Follow You, Follow Me -- Genesis -- by Genesis (as part of a medley)
Freedom! '90 -- George Michael -- by Street Greek
Gimme Shelter -- The Rolling Stones -- by The Rolling Stones
Gimme Some Lovin' -- The Spencer Davis Group -- by Traffic and by Steve Winwood
Glad -- Traffic -- by Traffic, by Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood and by Steve Winwood
Heart of the Sunrise -- Yes -- by Yes (x2)
Help! -- The Beatles -- by U2
I Can See for Miles -- The Who -- by The Who
I Can't Explain -- The Who -- by The Who
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction -- The Rolling Stones -- by The Rolling Stones
(I Don't Want to Go to) Chelsea -- Elvis Costello -- by Elvis Costello and by Elvis Costello and Allen Toussaint
Imagine -- John Lennon -- by Fleetwood Mac
In God's Country -- U2 -- by U2 (x2)
I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For -- U2 -- by U2 (x3)
I've Seen All Good People -- Yes -- by Yes (x2)
Jeepster -- T. Rex -- by Sam Champion
Karma Police -- Radiohead -- by Radiohead
Land of Confusion -- Genesis -- by Genesis (x2)
Let It Bleed -- The Rolling Stones -- by The Rolling Stones
Living on a Thin Line -- The Kinks -- by The Kinks
Locomotive Breath -- Jethro Tull -- by Jethro Tull
Lola -- The Kinks -- by The Kinks
Long Snake Moan -- PJ Harvey -- by PJ Harvey
Love, Reign O'er Me -- The Who -- by The Who
New Year's Day -- U2 -- by U2 (x3)
No Quarter -- Led Zeppelin -- by Vida Blue
Oh Well Part 1 — Fleetwood Mac — by Fleetwood Mac and by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers (x2)
One -- U2 -- by U2 (x3)
On the Turning Away -- Pink Floyd -- by Pink Floyd (x2)
Ooh La La -- Faces -- by Sam Champion
Paranoid Android -- Radiohead -- by Radiohead
Pride (in the Name of Love) -- U2 -- by U2 (x4)
Pump It Up -- Elvis Costello -- by Elvis Costello and by Elvis Costello and Allen Toussaint
Radio, Radio -- Elvis Costello -- by Elvis Costello
Rid of Me -- PJ Harvey -- by PJ Harvey (x2)
Roundabout -- Yes -- by Yes (x2)
Roxanne -- Sting -- by The Police
Running to Stand Still -- U2 -- by U2 (x3)
Shouldn't Have Took More Than You Gave -- Dave Mason -- by Dave Mason
Skating Away on the Thin Ice of the New Day -- Jethro Tull -- by Jethro Tull
Slide Away -- The Verve -- by The Verve
Sneakin' Sally Through the Alley -- Robert Palmer -- by Phish (x2 or 3)
Starship Trooper -- Yes -- by Yes (x2)
Street Fighting Man -- The Rolling Stones -- by The Rolling Stones
Substitute -- The Who -- by The Who
Sunday Bloody Sunday -- U2 -- by U2 (x4)
Sympathy for the Devil -- The Rolling Stones -- by The Rolling Stones
That's Entertainment -- The Jam -- by Paul Weller
The Concept -- Teenage Fanclub -- by Teenage Fanclub (x3)
The Real Me -- The Who -- by The Who
The Changingman -- Paul Weller -- by Paul Weller
The Motivator -- T. Rex -- by Sam Champion
There, There -- Radiohead -- by Radiohead
The Rover -- Led Zeppelin -- by Phish
The Song Remains the Same -- Led Zeppelin -- by Umphrey's McGee
Time -- Pink Floyd -- by Pink Floyd (x2) and by David Gilmour
True -- Spandau Ballet -- by Gene Ween, Dean Ween and Chris Harford
Us and Them -- Pink Floyd -- by Pink Floyd (x2)
War Pigs -- Black Sabbath -- by The Flaming Lips (x3)
Watching the Detectives -- Elvis Costello -- by Elvis Costello and by Elvis Costello and Allen Toussaint
We're Not Gonna Take It -- The Who -- by The Who
What Is and What Should Never Be -- Led Zeppelin -- by Phish
(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding? -- Elvis Costello -- by Elvis Costello and by Elvis Costello and Allen Toussaint
Where the Streets Have No Name -- U2 -- by U2 (x4)
While My Guitar Gently Weeps -- The Beatles -- by Phish
Who Are You -- The Who -- by The Who
Why Can't I Touch It? -- Buzzcocks -- by Chris Harford with Steve Garvey (x3) and by RANA with Steve Garvey
Wish You Were Here -- Pink Floyd -- by Pink Floyd (x2) and by David Gilmour with Crosby and Nash
Won't Get Fooled Again -- The Who -- by The Who
You Really Got Me -- The Kinks -- by The Kinks
Yours Is No Disgrace -- Yes -- by Yes (x2)

It's almost as long as the US list I posted in that thread a few days ago, but less diverse. My one Who, one Kinks, one Rolling Stones, one David Gilmour and two Pink Floyd shows are doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
 
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Maybe it's because the song sucks?
You probably just never sat and really listened to the lyrics:

She don't like slavery, she won't sit and beg
But when I'm tired and lonely, yeah, she gives me head
I said, "What set you free and brought you to me, babe?"
"What set you free? I need you here by me"
Because
In the midnight hour she cried more, more, more
With a rebel yell more, more, more, yow!
In the midnight hour, babe, more, more, more
With a rebel yell
More


Shakespearesque
 
It's a running gag among my friend group that my taste in entertainment is undefinable.
In the past, I've defined my taste in music as "A Whitman's sampler for the ears".
Partially that's out of a sense of variety of genres and styles, with bits here and there. But there's also the idea that, while in general most find it pretty good, there will be some things you love and others that you can't stomach. With the amounts of each being completely personal.

you realize over half of that box will be spit into a kleenex in pure disgust right?
 
Maybe it's because the song sucks?
You probably just never sat and really listened to the lyrics:

She don't like slavery, she won't sit and beg
But when I'm tired and lonely, yeah, she gives me head
I said, "What set you free and brought you to me, babe?"
"What set you free? I need you here by me"
Because
In the midnight hour she cried more, more, more
With a rebel yell more, more, more, yow!
In the midnight hour, babe, more, more, more
With a rebel yell
More


Shakespearesque
Whoa, whoa, whoa...

If we're going to start judging songs based on lyrical efficacy...better get a big lunch and comfy chair ready.
 

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