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So you're you going to wait your entire life and blow your entire legacy on your deathbed?I have a full can of Billy Beer that I'm going to open on my deathbed. It'll be fine.
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So you're you going to wait your entire life and blow your entire legacy on your deathbed?I have a full can of Billy Beer that I'm going to open on my deathbed. It'll be fine.
You may be right, but forcing people to come in to use unnecessary commercial real estate is pretty absurd, particularly when you consider our concomitant housing crisis.My company owns its own home office. They're definitely using "in-person collaboration" as some BS excuse to justify having everyone that just happens to live close to the home office come in 3 days a week. I VERY rarely "collaborate" with anyone in person when I'm at my office. It's incredibly unfair.We have a commercial real estate crisis in this country. The easiest fix is to force folks back into the office to justify the expense. I promise you, the last thing this country needs is a real estate crash.
They need to justify the expense of having a home office. It's not "free". There is somebody somewhere examining every expense and asking for a breakdown of people using the office to keep it open and maintain the costs associated with that....utilities, insurance, taxes, etc.
It might be shareholders it might be a board it might be equity holders - the higher ups want financial justification for keeping the lights on in this building.
It's a math problem.
You may be right, but forcing people to come in to use unnecessary commercial real estate is pretty absurd, particularly when you consider our concomitant housing crisis.My company owns its own home office. They're definitely using "in-person collaboration" as some BS excuse to justify having everyone that just happens to live close to the home office come in 3 days a week. I VERY rarely "collaborate" with anyone in person when I'm at my office. It's incredibly unfair.We have a commercial real estate crisis in this country. The easiest fix is to force folks back into the office to justify the expense. I promise you, the last thing this country needs is a real estate crash.
They need to justify the expense of having a home office. It's not "free". There is somebody somewhere examining every expense and asking for a breakdown of people using the office to keep it open and maintain the costs associated with that....utilities, insurance, taxes, etc.
It might be shareholders it might be a board it might be equity holders - the higher ups want financial justification for keeping the lights on in this building.
It's a math problem.
ETA I see @rockaction covered it
First of all, you spend about 50% of the building's value retrofitting plumbing to get up to code for residential occupancy.You may be right, but forcing people to come in to use unnecessary commercial real estate is pretty absurd, particularly when you consider our concomitant housing crisis.My company owns its own home office. They're definitely using "in-person collaboration" as some BS excuse to justify having everyone that just happens to live close to the home office come in 3 days a week. I VERY rarely "collaborate" with anyone in person when I'm at my office. It's incredibly unfair.We have a commercial real estate crisis in this country. The easiest fix is to force folks back into the office to justify the expense. I promise you, the last thing this country needs is a real estate crash.
They need to justify the expense of having a home office. It's not "free". There is somebody somewhere examining every expense and asking for a breakdown of people using the office to keep it open and maintain the costs associated with that....utilities, insurance, taxes, etc.
It might be shareholders it might be a board it might be equity holders - the higher ups want financial justification for keeping the lights on in this building.
It's a math problem.
ETA I see @rockaction covered it
Who pays the owners of the buildings for the new occupants who will live there? The occupants or?
I like the idea just wondering how this works financially.
And electricalFirst of all, you spend about 50% of the building's value retrofitting plumbing to get up to code for residential occupancy.You may be right, but forcing people to come in to use unnecessary commercial real estate is pretty absurd, particularly when you consider our concomitant housing crisis.My company owns its own home office. They're definitely using "in-person collaboration" as some BS excuse to justify having everyone that just happens to live close to the home office come in 3 days a week. I VERY rarely "collaborate" with anyone in person when I'm at my office. It's incredibly unfair.We have a commercial real estate crisis in this country. The easiest fix is to force folks back into the office to justify the expense. I promise you, the last thing this country needs is a real estate crash.
They need to justify the expense of having a home office. It's not "free". There is somebody somewhere examining every expense and asking for a breakdown of people using the office to keep it open and maintain the costs associated with that....utilities, insurance, taxes, etc.
It might be shareholders it might be a board it might be equity holders - the higher ups want financial justification for keeping the lights on in this building.
It's a math problem.
ETA I see @rockaction covered it
Who pays the owners of the buildings for the new occupants who will live there? The occupants or?
I like the idea just wondering how this works financially.
No idea.You may be right, but forcing people to come in to use unnecessary commercial real estate is pretty absurd, particularly when you consider our concomitant housing crisis.My company owns its own home office. They're definitely using "in-person collaboration" as some BS excuse to justify having everyone that just happens to live close to the home office come in 3 days a week. I VERY rarely "collaborate" with anyone in person when I'm at my office. It's incredibly unfair.We have a commercial real estate crisis in this country. The easiest fix is to force folks back into the office to justify the expense. I promise you, the last thing this country needs is a real estate crash.
They need to justify the expense of having a home office. It's not "free". There is somebody somewhere examining every expense and asking for a breakdown of people using the office to keep it open and maintain the costs associated with that....utilities, insurance, taxes, etc.
It might be shareholders it might be a board it might be equity holders - the higher ups want financial justification for keeping the lights on in this building.
It's a math problem.
ETA I see @rockaction covered it
Who pays the owners of the buildings for the new occupants who will live there? The occupants or?
I like the idea just wondering how this works financially.
In states have gone to the IBC instead of the UBC, the residential codes and commercial codes aren't all that different. Yeah, you need to add some showers/baths to commercial spaces, but other than that it isn't all that difficult to convert it. Electrical wouldn't be a major change.And electricalFirst of all, you spend about 50% of the building's value retrofitting plumbing to get up to code for residential occupancy.You may be right, but forcing people to come in to use unnecessary commercial real estate is pretty absurd, particularly when you consider our concomitant housing crisis.My company owns its own home office. They're definitely using "in-person collaboration" as some BS excuse to justify having everyone that just happens to live close to the home office come in 3 days a week. I VERY rarely "collaborate" with anyone in person when I'm at my office. It's incredibly unfair.We have a commercial real estate crisis in this country. The easiest fix is to force folks back into the office to justify the expense. I promise you, the last thing this country needs is a real estate crash.
They need to justify the expense of having a home office. It's not "free". There is somebody somewhere examining every expense and asking for a breakdown of people using the office to keep it open and maintain the costs associated with that....utilities, insurance, taxes, etc.
It might be shareholders it might be a board it might be equity holders - the higher ups want financial justification for keeping the lights on in this building.
It's a math problem.
ETA I see @rockaction covered it
Who pays the owners of the buildings for the new occupants who will live there? The occupants or?
I like the idea just wondering how this works financially.
The problem with electrical is getting each unit on its own meter. Giant PIAIn states have gone to the IBC instead of the UBC, the residential codes and commercial codes aren't all that different. Yeah, you need to add some showers/baths to commercial spaces, but other than that it isn't all that difficult to convert it. Electrical wouldn't be a major change.And electricalFirst of all, you spend about 50% of the building's value retrofitting plumbing to get up to code for residential occupancy.You may be right, but forcing people to come in to use unnecessary commercial real estate is pretty absurd, particularly when you consider our concomitant housing crisis.My company owns its own home office. They're definitely using "in-person collaboration" as some BS excuse to justify having everyone that just happens to live close to the home office come in 3 days a week. I VERY rarely "collaborate" with anyone in person when I'm at my office. It's incredibly unfair.We have a commercial real estate crisis in this country. The easiest fix is to force folks back into the office to justify the expense. I promise you, the last thing this country needs is a real estate crash.
They need to justify the expense of having a home office. It's not "free". There is somebody somewhere examining every expense and asking for a breakdown of people using the office to keep it open and maintain the costs associated with that....utilities, insurance, taxes, etc.
It might be shareholders it might be a board it might be equity holders - the higher ups want financial justification for keeping the lights on in this building.
It's a math problem.
ETA I see @rockaction covered it
Who pays the owners of the buildings for the new occupants who will live there? The occupants or?
I like the idea just wondering how this works financially.
Is the cost worth it to rent out residential space instead of letting commercial space sit empty? Right now that's the issue I'm seeing commercial owners dealing with. It's borderline.
Sure, but it's also a giant PITA to have 30,000 sq ft sitting empty and not generating revenue. Retrofits wouldn't be cheap but they'd pay for themselves pretty quickly.The problem with electrical is getting each unit on its own meter. Giant PIAIn states have gone to the IBC instead of the UBC, the residential codes and commercial codes aren't all that different. Yeah, you need to add some showers/baths to commercial spaces, but other than that it isn't all that difficult to convert it. Electrical wouldn't be a major change.And electricalFirst of all, you spend about 50% of the building's value retrofitting plumbing to get up to code for residential occupancy.You may be right, but forcing people to come in to use unnecessary commercial real estate is pretty absurd, particularly when you consider our concomitant housing crisis.My company owns its own home office. They're definitely using "in-person collaboration" as some BS excuse to justify having everyone that just happens to live close to the home office come in 3 days a week. I VERY rarely "collaborate" with anyone in person when I'm at my office. It's incredibly unfair.We have a commercial real estate crisis in this country. The easiest fix is to force folks back into the office to justify the expense. I promise you, the last thing this country needs is a real estate crash.
They need to justify the expense of having a home office. It's not "free". There is somebody somewhere examining every expense and asking for a breakdown of people using the office to keep it open and maintain the costs associated with that....utilities, insurance, taxes, etc.
It might be shareholders it might be a board it might be equity holders - the higher ups want financial justification for keeping the lights on in this building.
It's a math problem.
ETA I see @rockaction covered it
Who pays the owners of the buildings for the new occupants who will live there? The occupants or?
I like the idea just wondering how this works financially.
Is the cost worth it to rent out residential space instead of letting commercial space sit empty? Right now that's the issue I'm seeing commercial owners dealing with. It's borderline.
I get it. And am all for it.Sure, but it's also a giant PITA to have 30,000 sq ft sitting empty and not generating revenue. Retrofits wouldn't be cheap but they'd pay for themselves pretty quickly.The problem with electrical is getting each unit on its own meter. Giant PIAIn states have gone to the IBC instead of the UBC, the residential codes and commercial codes aren't all that different. Yeah, you need to add some showers/baths to commercial spaces, but other than that it isn't all that difficult to convert it. Electrical wouldn't be a major change.And electricalFirst of all, you spend about 50% of the building's value retrofitting plumbing to get up to code for residential occupancy.You may be right, but forcing people to come in to use unnecessary commercial real estate is pretty absurd, particularly when you consider our concomitant housing crisis.My company owns its own home office. They're definitely using "in-person collaboration" as some BS excuse to justify having everyone that just happens to live close to the home office come in 3 days a week. I VERY rarely "collaborate" with anyone in person when I'm at my office. It's incredibly unfair.We have a commercial real estate crisis in this country. The easiest fix is to force folks back into the office to justify the expense. I promise you, the last thing this country needs is a real estate crash.
They need to justify the expense of having a home office. It's not "free". There is somebody somewhere examining every expense and asking for a breakdown of people using the office to keep it open and maintain the costs associated with that....utilities, insurance, taxes, etc.
It might be shareholders it might be a board it might be equity holders - the higher ups want financial justification for keeping the lights on in this building.
It's a math problem.
ETA I see @rockaction covered it
Who pays the owners of the buildings for the new occupants who will live there? The occupants or?
I like the idea just wondering how this works financially.
Is the cost worth it to rent out residential space instead of letting commercial space sit empty? Right now that's the issue I'm seeing commercial owners dealing with. It's borderline.
It's not so much the difference in codes, but the difference in customers demands. Most people leasing 2000 sf office aren't going to require 3 baths, w/d laundry room and full kitchen. Retrofitting that to any code will be extremely costly. It was an absolute deal like when I researched it about a decade ago and I'm pretty sure it's be a lot more expensive now.In states have gone to the IBC instead of the UBC, the residential codes and commercial codes aren't all that different. Yeah, you need to add some showers/baths to commercial spaces, but other than that it isn't all that difficult to convert it. Electrical wouldn't be a major change.And electricalFirst of all, you spend about 50% of the building's value retrofitting plumbing to get up to code for residential occupancy.You may be right, but forcing people to come in to use unnecessary commercial real estate is pretty absurd, particularly when you consider our concomitant housing crisis.My company owns its own home office. They're definitely using "in-person collaboration" as some BS excuse to justify having everyone that just happens to live close to the home office come in 3 days a week. I VERY rarely "collaborate" with anyone in person when I'm at my office. It's incredibly unfair.We have a commercial real estate crisis in this country. The easiest fix is to force folks back into the office to justify the expense. I promise you, the last thing this country needs is a real estate crash.
They need to justify the expense of having a home office. It's not "free". There is somebody somewhere examining every expense and asking for a breakdown of people using the office to keep it open and maintain the costs associated with that....utilities, insurance, taxes, etc.
It might be shareholders it might be a board it might be equity holders - the higher ups want financial justification for keeping the lights on in this building.
It's a math problem.
ETA I see @rockaction covered it
Who pays the owners of the buildings for the new occupants who will live there? The occupants or?
I like the idea just wondering how this works financially.
Is the cost worth it to rent out residential space instead of letting commercial space sit empty? Right now that's the issue I'm seeing commercial owners dealing with. It's borderline.
Gotcha.I get it. And am all for it.Sure, but it's also a giant PITA to have 30,000 sq ft sitting empty and not generating revenue. Retrofits wouldn't be cheap but they'd pay for themselves pretty quickly.The problem with electrical is getting each unit on its own meter. Giant PIAIn states have gone to the IBC instead of the UBC, the residential codes and commercial codes aren't all that different. Yeah, you need to add some showers/baths to commercial spaces, but other than that it isn't all that difficult to convert it. Electrical wouldn't be a major change.And electricalFirst of all, you spend about 50% of the building's value retrofitting plumbing to get up to code for residential occupancy.You may be right, but forcing people to come in to use unnecessary commercial real estate is pretty absurd, particularly when you consider our concomitant housing crisis.My company owns its own home office. They're definitely using "in-person collaboration" as some BS excuse to justify having everyone that just happens to live close to the home office come in 3 days a week. I VERY rarely "collaborate" with anyone in person when I'm at my office. It's incredibly unfair.We have a commercial real estate crisis in this country. The easiest fix is to force folks back into the office to justify the expense. I promise you, the last thing this country needs is a real estate crash.
They need to justify the expense of having a home office. It's not "free". There is somebody somewhere examining every expense and asking for a breakdown of people using the office to keep it open and maintain the costs associated with that....utilities, insurance, taxes, etc.
It might be shareholders it might be a board it might be equity holders - the higher ups want financial justification for keeping the lights on in this building.
It's a math problem.
ETA I see @rockaction covered it
Who pays the owners of the buildings for the new occupants who will live there? The occupants or?
I like the idea just wondering how this works financially.
Is the cost worth it to rent out residential space instead of letting commercial space sit empty? Right now that's the issue I'm seeing commercial owners dealing with. It's borderline.
My family bought 3 interconnected warehouse buildings in DTLA in 1980. We turned them into 26 separate loft living units. It’s where I grew up. The biggest hurdle from a cost and inspection perspective was installing separate water and power meters. So much so that we didn’t do it. Water and power remained on one system. You were billed based on. The size and occupancy of your unit. One had to accept this set up in teh lease. It worked for. A mom and pop shop. Doubtful that it would for a multi hundred/thousand unit building.![]()
Well, we don't really need to send kids to school to get an education but we do so because they need the socialization.
Grownups need it too. This working from home is not helping us socialize. It's good for you to go mingle with people you hate and long for a lunch break.
We run the risk of turning into hermits.
Funny because I actually work IN affordable housing.No idea.You may be right, but forcing people to come in to use unnecessary commercial real estate is pretty absurd, particularly when you consider our concomitant housing crisis.My company owns its own home office. They're definitely using "in-person collaboration" as some BS excuse to justify having everyone that just happens to live close to the home office come in 3 days a week. I VERY rarely "collaborate" with anyone in person when I'm at my office. It's incredibly unfair.We have a commercial real estate crisis in this country. The easiest fix is to force folks back into the office to justify the expense. I promise you, the last thing this country needs is a real estate crash.
They need to justify the expense of having a home office. It's not "free". There is somebody somewhere examining every expense and asking for a breakdown of people using the office to keep it open and maintain the costs associated with that....utilities, insurance, taxes, etc.
It might be shareholders it might be a board it might be equity holders - the higher ups want financial justification for keeping the lights on in this building.
It's a math problem.
ETA I see @rockaction covered it
Who pays the owners of the buildings for the new occupants who will live there? The occupants or?
I like the idea just wondering how this works financially.
Just seems really contrived insisting people come to work to use the space, when we have a shortage of affordable housing.
I realize one can’t just wave a wand to change commercial to residential RE, but I’m guessing there’s ways it could happen.
Meh. There are numerous other ways to form social networks, and I’m not talking about electronic social media. Minus unnecessary work commutes, there should be even more time for meaningful human interaction.Well, we don't really need to send kids to school to get an education but we do so because they need the socialization.
Grownups need it too. This working from home is not helping us socialize. It's good for you to go mingle with people you hate and long for a lunch break.
We run the risk of turning into hermits.
I'm not a senior yet, but I do agree that they will want windows.I have a plan to turn my local mall into senior living. You wouldn't need to get rid of all the retail; I imagine Walgreens would love to be on-site. Plenty of room for urgent care, too, which might save a few ER visits. The majority of the vast parking lot would be converted to a par-three golf course, pickleball, etc. The main retrofitting challenge might not be plumbing, but windows. Folks are going to insist on those, too.
forget windows. just give me the golf and a killer arcade.I have a plan to turn my local mall into senior living. You wouldn't need to get rid of all the retail; I imagine Walgreens would love to be on-site. Plenty of room for urgent care, too, which might save a few ER visits. The majority of the vast parking lot would be converted to a par-three golf course, pickleball, etc. The main retrofitting challenge might not be plumbing, but windows. Folks are going to insist on those, too.
This is a great idea.I have a plan to turn my local mall into senior living. You wouldn't need to get rid of all the retail; I imagine Walgreens would love to be on-site. Plenty of room for urgent care, too, which might save a few ER visits. The majority of the vast parking lot would be converted to a par-three golf course, pickleball, etc. The main retrofitting challenge might not be plumbing, but windows. Folks are going to insist on those, too.
I have 2 friends our age that did this. One in Spain one in Japan. Spain guy ended up at Georgetown as a professor. Japan guy married a Japanese girl ended up in HI teaching at punaho (beugie private school that Obama went too) Both very happy.Oldest graduates from college on Sunday. Two ceremonies on tap then a small celebration at his place. Anybody curious what one does with a double major in sociology and Spanish the answer is: move to Spain and teach English.
Better than any ideas I came up with at that age. Go get 'em, kid.
I was gonna guess become a barista so yeah his option is much betterOldest graduates from college on Sunday. Two ceremonies on tap then a small celebration at his place. Anybody curious what one does with a double major in sociology and Spanish the answer is: move to Spain and teach English.
Better than any ideas I came up with at that age. Go get 'em, kid.
it's a lovely countryOldest graduates from college on Sunday. Two ceremonies on tap then a small celebration at his place. Anybody curious what one does with a double major in sociology and Spanish the answer is: move to Spain and teach English.
Better than any ideas I came up with at that age. Go get 'em, kid.
it's a lovely countryOldest graduates from college on Sunday. Two ceremonies on tap then a small celebration at his place. Anybody curious what one does with a double major in sociology and Spanish the answer is: move to Spain and teach English.
Better than any ideas I came up with at that age. Go get 'em, kid.
Hawaii or Alaska?I have been to 49 of the 50 US states, though
Hawaii or Alaska?I have been to 49 of the 50 US states, though
does driving through count?Hawaii or Alaska?I have been to 49 of the 50 US states, though
Both of those a few times.
Just texted my dad to ask about South Dakota - thought we drove through it when I was little but we did not. So it's 48 of 50. Never been to a Dakota.
does driving through count?Hawaii or Alaska?I have been to 49 of the 50 US states, though
Both of those a few times.
Just texted my dad to ask about South Dakota - thought we drove through it when I was little but we did not. So it's 48 of 50. Never been to a Dakota.
Spain in AMAZINGit's a lovely countryOldest graduates from college on Sunday. Two ceremonies on tap then a small celebration at his place. Anybody curious what one does with a double major in sociology and Spanish the answer is: move to Spain and teach English.
Better than any ideas I came up with at that age. Go get 'em, kid.
I've never been. Hell, I've never been anywhere outside of Canada and some border towns of Mexico, so I'm hoping to get over to Spain for a visit. He spent a semester there last year and fell in love with it.
I have been to 49 of the 50 US states, though. Almost like going to Spain.
You do some manscaping?- looking good!
Brewery King Guy never took you to his alma mater???Hawaii or Alaska?I have been to 49 of the 50 US states, though
Both of those a few times.
Just texted my dad to ask about South Dakota - thought we drove through it when I was little but we did not. So it's 48 of 50. Never been to a Dakota.
Let's plan on it!Dang, man. Glad you got to be home for a bit and I know your nephews enjoy having your around - all smiles when I see the pics! But that's rough to watch your sister continue to spiral at the expense of her kids and your mom.
You sure you don't want to get that beer at Breakside after our Sat morning round?
I’ll pm you when I get out there on 7/19. @General Malaise, interested in a cornhole?blog post update:
- Hack is now single - not interested in dating or getting on the apps. Welcome to "Summer of Hack"
- Hack/GM disc golf cornhole scheduled for Saturday morning.
- My nephews are amazing. Was just home for a few days and got to spend some time with them.
I’ll pm you when I get out there on 7/19. @General Malaise, interested in a cornhole?blog post update:
- Hack is now single - not interested in dating or getting on the apps. Welcome to "Summer of Hack"
- Hack/GM disc golf cornhole scheduled for Saturday morning.
- My nephews are amazing. Was just home for a few days and got to spend some time with them.