but I don't post under a name like fo shizzle here and a real name there.I guess I get a lot of shark pooler/FBG subscriber types friending me b/c I work here. No idea who most of them are.
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GM's thread about nothing (35 Viewers)
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Samuel L Bronkowitz
Footballguy
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
We didn't go to Dallas, 'cause Jackie Onassis said that it ain't safe for Catholics yetMost? I know the ones I'm friends with and that's about it.It's not that difficult if they post regularly in this thread. Location is a big clue. Speaking of... I'm in Dallas.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Is there any way to change my username BTW, other than the obvious of just starting over with a new name? I ####### hate the name fo shizzle.
of course. what do you want it changed to?
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Thanks. Ill PM in next few days. Thinking fo shizzle fan.
General Malaise
Footballguy
How about Buck Bradcanon?
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
What didn't you like about it?Yes, of course you did.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Mrs. Frosty just snagged a job that will increase her salary by 280.3%
Score.
Score.
time to find a better/more expensive preschool?
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Now we'll be paying for two kids.
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General Malaise
Footballguy
You mean other than it just ending abruptly and fading to black for 10 seconds of confusing silence and nothingness, originally causing me to kick my DiretTV device and bang my remote furiously against my head? Okay, I hated that AJ's car caught fire because it was left idling over some leaves, which I'm sure were wet since it was fall and earlier the area had been hit by a pretty severe snow storm. I mean, he had that hot chick (Emily Wickersham - google image) topless in the front seat where we gloriously got to see most of her left boob, then "AHHHHH FIRE, GET OUT!!!" Thanks a lot, David Chase.I hated the truce that was arranged after all the drama and build up leading to the war. It was too....easy. Have a tough time believing that Phil got sold out like that. Again, just felt like the writers were taking an easy, quick way out.And how about some background into why Carlo flipped? Just some hurried story that his son was on drugs? How about some details. Christ, they spent episode after episode dealing with Adriana's FBI involvement. Here, leading up to the big ending, we get nothing?Having to watch Meadow parallel park made me want to jump through the TV screen, open her door, yank her out of the car and show her how to park a small sedan into a space the size of Uhaul.Okay, okay....we're all left wondering "WHAT HAPPENED". Genius.What didn't you like about it?Yes, of course you did.
I prefer closure. Maybe that's because every book and nearly every movie I've ever read or watch HAD A MOTHER FREAKING ENDING. This? This just cut away to black. Well pardon me if I'm not smart enough to appreciate the brilliance of that. I want an ending I can wrap my head around.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Stoneys
MudCat
tell us how you really feel..You mean other than it just ending abruptly and fading to black for 10 seconds of confusing silence and nothingness, originally causing me to kick my DiretTV device and bang my remote furiously against my head? Okay, I hated that AJ's car caught fire because it was left idling over some leaves, which I'm sure were wet since it was fall and earlier the area had been hit by a pretty severe snow storm. I mean, he had that hot chick (Emily Wickersham - google image) topless in the front seat where we gloriously got to see most of her left boob, then "AHHHHH FIRE, GET OUT!!!" Thanks a lot, David Chase.I hated the truce that was arranged after all the drama and build up leading to the war. It was too....easy. Have a tough time believing that Phil got sold out like that. Again, just felt like the writers were taking an easy, quick way out.And how about some background into why Carlo flipped? Just some hurried story that his son was on drugs? How about some details. Christ, they spent episode after episode dealing with Adriana's FBI involvement. Here, leading up to the big ending, we get nothing?Having to watch Meadow parallel park made me want to jump through the TV screen, open her door, yank her out of the car and show her how to park a small sedan into a space the size of Uhaul.Okay, okay....we're all left wondering "WHAT HAPPENED". Genius.What didn't you like about it?Yes, of course you did.
jplvr
Footballguy
I agree with GM:
I was at a buddy's house for the end of the Sopranos. "What the #### is wrong with your TV?" In those seconds, there was almost a brawl. I had a 3 hour drive ahead of me and basically walked out the door without saying much at all. I called back about an hour into the drive and we whined about the ending together, but we were both so unamused, we didn't speak much about it after the credits rolled.
@ preschool
I was at a buddy's house for the end of the Sopranos. "What the #### is wrong with your TV?" In those seconds, there was almost a brawl. I had a 3 hour drive ahead of me and basically walked out the door without saying much at all. I called back about an hour into the drive and we whined about the ending together, but we were both so unamused, we didn't speak much about it after the credits rolled.
@ preschool
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bostonfred
Footballguy
Count me as another fan. I can understand why people hate it, but I think that that one scene completed something that all of the rest of the episodes couldn't quite do - it showed you the reality of Tony's lifestyle. Through all the other seasons, you always kind of wanted to be Tony. They showed you the reality of him being a boss and how it impacted his family and his marriage and how he lost the people who were close to him or was betrayed. You saw the tough decisions he had to make, and the violence and the danger, and you saw that he could never just quit. But the impact of the final scene - of something so basic - and seeing that guy over there, and wondering if that's the guy, and today's the day, and is this really the end? - that was the first time that you really understood. They spent the whole show taking this outrageous type of character - someone you'd never be or want to be or hang out with - and just fleshed it out and made him seem like he was just another guy like you or me leading a normal life - a normal life with power and drugs and money and crime, but a family and relationships and bad days at work and health problems and all the normal stuff. Then they flipped that on its ear by showing you that this was not a normal life in any way. And in that moment - in a way they could never really have convinced you of in a random episode in the middle of season four - you realized the additional toll that his life was taking on him, his family, and everyone around him. I thought it was brilliant.What didn't you like about it?Yes, of course you did.
Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
I KNEW IT!
bostonfred
Footballguy
That was an ending. The difference is that this wasn't a story. It was a character study. At the ending of a story, you realize the point of all the stuff that happened, how all these things in the beginning led all that stuff at the end and you can stop and think about everything that happened along the way and where things went so terribly wrong and how we would all be dead if it weren't for the hero and so on. At the end of a character study, you realize the point of the character. I feel like that ending made me more fully understand Tony Soprano, and his family, and their lifestyle. I didn't find season six as enjoyable as the earlier seasons, and I agree that there were some sucky moments, but I think that season and that ending added a missing element to the show. When it comes to understanding a family like the Sopranos, I don't need a shootout, or to see Tony die in a shootout or see him beat some other boss knowing there's another one who will pop up after him. That's fun eye candy, but it's just detail in the bigger picture. This ending completed the picture of the character, and that's what made it so successful at what they were trying to accomplish.
Samuel L Bronkowitz
Footballguy
Hey how about some spoiler tags in here?
Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
BFred dropping crazy knowledge. He definitely gets it more than 3 times a month.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Thanks Rude.
RudiStein
*Not really a bail bondsman
Hey Rip Van Winkle...It's been like 3.5 years.
Gadzooks
Footballguy
Gadzooks
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
Yeah, I didn't get that at all. This sounds like what all the critics wrote in the aftermath, including the ones who originally panned it, but refuted their negative reviews and jumped on the bandwagon proclaiming how brilliant it was. As far as wondering 'is this really the end': OF COURSE IT WAS THE END. IT WAS THE FINAL EPISODE. Just give me an ending with closure. Six Feet Under did that in remarkable fashion. This series just faded to black and silence. Neat. You say brilliant, I say cop out.You say they packaged up this larger than life mob boss and in once scene reduced him to a normal guy with a family and health problems, etc. I don't agree with that. The whole series was about a mob boss who has a family and health problems, etc. He was a paradox from the get go. I didn't need a scene with him in the diner to realize what he was. I had countless scenes with him and Dr. Melfi fleshing out what his life was truly like and how he had to walk a line between dark side and light. I'd also say that we saw several ways in which his lifestyle manifested itself upon his family throughout the series....AJ committing suicide, getting kicked out of school, dropping out of college. Meadow losing two relationships because the men were afraid of her father or her father's cronies. And the toll his life took upon his wife was evident early and often.I don't know. If it's brilliant because I'm angry, then David Chase wins. I say he couldn't find a better way to end it so this was his trump card. The critical reviews I've read read like something from the mouths of David Chase sycophants.At least Jeep is with me.Count me as another fan. I can understand why people hate it, but I think that that one scene completed something that all of the rest of the episodes couldn't quite do - it showed you the reality of Tony's lifestyle. Through all the other seasons, you always kind of wanted to be Tony. They showed you the reality of him being a boss and how it impacted his family and his marriage and how he lost the people who were close to him or was betrayed. You saw the tough decisions he had to make, and the violence and the danger, and you saw that he could never just quit. But the impact of the final scene - of something so basic - and seeing that guy over there, and wondering if that's the guy, and today's the day, and is this really the end? - that was the first time that you really understood. They spent the whole show taking this outrageous type of character - someone you'd never be or want to be or hang out with - and just fleshed it out and made him seem like he was just another guy like you or me leading a normal life - a normal life with power and drugs and money and crime, but a family and relationships and bad days at work and health problems and all the normal stuff. Then they flipped that on its ear by showing you that this was not a normal life in any way. And in that moment - in a way they could never really have convinced you of in a random episode in the middle of season four - you realized the additional toll that his life was taking on him, his family, and everyone around him. I thought it was brilliant.What didn't you like about it?Yes, of course you did.
Samuel L Bronkowitz
Footballguy
Just parodying the shmucks who go into a movie thread 6 pages deep and complain about it That said, I haven't seen it. Does it hold up well?
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
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RudiStein
*Not really a bail bondsman
Very much so...up until you get to the point where Tony has to kill his own daughter to save 'the family'.
kevzilla
Footballguy
I think the Sopranos ending was, in part, a business decision. A few more years down the road, there could be a substantial payday for a Sopranos movie. If Tony's brains are spattered all over the wall of a diner, you can't do that. If you fade to black, everyone can think whatever they like, while leaving all your (money-making) options open.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
I asked their FBG name and saved the e-mails in a special folder.
I asked their FBG name and saved the e-mails in a special folder.
bostonfred
Footballguy
I think you misunderstood me. I totally agree with you on all that. That was the point of the whole show, and every season you learned a little more about Tony, or his wife, his daughter, his son, Christopher, Paulie, etc. The thing the final episode did that the rest of the show couldn't do - even when Tony went into the hospital at the end of one of the seasons - was make you realize the gravity of knowing that at any moment, no matter how mundane, it could all end. Just getting together for a bite to eat with his family - something you and I take for granted - you see this guy walk to the bathroom, and you wonder. They couldn't show that to you in the middle of season one, because you'd never believe that they'd kill the title character. They got you to believe that they'd kill off other characters on the show, and they were one of the first shows that actually did it. But they'd never kill off Tony. But in the series finale, you believed they might do it. And so the moment was real in a way that all the other scenes from all the episodes in all the other seasons never really was. It was a brilliant way to acknowledge the flaw of the medium - the fact that while we'll all suspend disbelief, there are rules in a series like this, and one of those rules is that you don't kill off Tony Soprano - and use the final episode to fill in that blank. So while they'd shown you all the weird mundane moments in this fascinating person's life, this was the first and only opportunity to show you that final piece of the puzzle. I might have been more entertained by another ending, but I think the way they used the final episode was a complete success in the arc of the show.
Gadzooks
Footballguy
I have no idea how to do that, I'd love to keep "work friends" separate from real life friends because my "work friends" are very nosey. For instance, I was in a meeting today had at least 5 co-workers who are FB friends ask me "who's that Catshirt guy you're friends with now?" One person referred to him as "Catfish Bill".
I told them he ran a non-profit animal rescue agency specializing in cats. That ended the conversation, as I figured it would.
jplvr
Footballguy
We'll drink beer and watch crappy reality TV. bfred talks funny anyway.At least Jeep is with me.
YSR
Footballguy
I have an FBG group on mine, but I don't think I've restricted anything on it. I had a work group as well, with my old job, and set some pretty major restrictions on it. I'm a pretty boring Facebooker, but I didn't want them knowing how much time I spent on there.
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Joe T
Footballguy
At least Jeep is with me.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Which facebook friend are you again?At least Jeep is with me.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
What can I say, I like you guys.
I have no idea how to do that, I'd love to keep "work friends" separate from real life friends because my "work friends" are very nosey. For instance, I was in a meeting today had at least 5 co-workers who are FB friends ask me "who's that Catshirt guy you're friends with now?" One person referred to him as "Catfish Bill".
No kidding. I have, thousands I guess, of people I don't want to know I'm on FB.
Joe T
Footballguy
sheww..... I'm not on ignore in here.Joe T from Dallas.Which facebook friend are you again?At least Jeep is with me.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Six Feet Under killed Nate Fisher. He was pretty important.I get what you're saying and have read several critical accounts that reflect your view. I happen to disagree and from my perspective - which I'll admit is clouded by booze, smoke and unlucky genes - do not find any sort of brilliance in how they chose to end the series.
The movie theory is a good one. Though I think it's probably a long shot at best.
Early_10
footballgoddess
Kids are 16, 11, 8, 5, 2, and 1...if we were down to a couple of times a month, I'd be single. And probably have fewer kids.Prolly about right in my house. Honestly not even sure I want much more, and my wife is still very attractive IMO.I get tired at night. Kids are 3 and 7.
Early_10
footballgoddess
I know who you are. Thank you for uncomplicating my life.
Joe T
Footballguy
All from the same daddy?Kids are 16, 11, 8, 5, 2, and 1...if we were down to a couple of times a month, I'd be single. And probably have fewer kids.Prolly about right in my house. Honestly not even sure I want much more, and my wife is still very attractive IMO.I get tired at night. Kids are 3 and 7.
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