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[Limp Ditka]

I...uhhh....umm...I think...uhhh

closest the FFA has come to proof that Black Label Society is a real person.

 

[Drifter]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

 

[cosjobs]

My friend who is getting married in SF just emailed me to ask if Romo and I would like to stay in the penthouse suite at the Fairmont on Saturday night after the wedding. They rented it for the reception, and were originally going to stay there, but they have decided to stay in another suite in the hotel so that they can actually leave[/] the reception and have some privacy. And because they have already paid for it, they would hate for it to go unused.

That decision was possibly the biggest no-brainer in the history of no-brainers for me.

Also, because I was able to fly us there with miles, and three of our four nights are free due to hotel points and an overly generous bride, we are only going to be paying for our Sunday night hotel which will be near-ish the airport. This frees up our budget for activities and food, so any and all recommendations are welcome.

Want to get drunk in a really cool/historic place? Get to North Beach somehow and go to Vesuvio. Right across from the City Lights bookstore. Kerouac used to get bombed there.

Edit: Just checked...it's less than a mile away from the Fairmont.

upstairs at Vesuvios reading beat poetry or some Bukowski whilst getting hammered is a fond memory.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

I recently read an article about picking in your warehouses. HFS, sounds like torture. Almost makes me feels bad ordering stuff from Amazon.

 

[cosjobs]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

I recently read an article about picking in your warehouses. HFS, sounds like torture. Almost makes me feels bad ordering stuff from Amazon.

Its not so bad, they bring in boatloads of Asian children to do it for $3 a day.

 

[Drifter]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

I recently read an article about picking in your warehouses. HFS, sounds like torture. Almost makes me feels bad ordering stuff from Amazon.

Might have been a reprint of a Seattle Times hack piece. Truth is Amazon pays its Warehouse employees far better than they can find elsewhere for similar jobs and has a far better safety record than working in retail - not retail warehouses, mind you - better safety than actual retail counter employees.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

I recently read an article about picking in your warehouses. HFS, sounds like torture. Almost makes me feels bad ordering stuff from Amazon.

Might have been a reprint of a Seattle Times hack piece. Truth is Amazon pays its Warehouse employees far better than they can find elsewhere for similar jobs and has a far better safety record than working in retail - not retail warehouses, mind you - better safety than actual retail counter employees.

Nothing about pay. Here's the article. I thought it was Amazon but is doesn't disclose which company it is. Given the products they are pulling, I would say it is probable she is at Amazon. To be fair, our top two major vendors run their warehouses in a similar way although they don't work the pickers quite this hard. So I profit from some of the same tactics.

ETA

Just noticed the "if you like this" at the bottom of the page and two of them are about Amazon.

 

[General Malaise]

So, with Rude here now anybody up for a Saturday BBQ/in West Seattle in the next weekend or two? Maybe play some cards while we're at it?

I would be able to do Saturday the 28th.

I'm going out of town the weekend of the 21st but should be around that weekend.

Let's plan on something for the 28th then.GM - field trip?

Rude - let me know if you want to grab a beer before then since we're practically neighbors.

Baby due July 24, so I'm out for any field trips. Take some video shots for me.

 

[General Malaise]

The first half winners from my home run pool will be coming out later today. I offer my thoughts and prayers to those of you who clearly must be going thru some troubling times since you haven't been able to get your $25 entry fee to me and it's been over 3 months. Perhaps a payment plan might work? How can I help you with this? Help me help you.

Did you get my payment? I assume I sent it since I had TWO entries for "Mike ##############skyberg" in my BofA online bill pay section.

 

[Drifter]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

I recently read an article about picking in your warehouses. HFS, sounds like torture. Almost makes me feels bad ordering stuff from Amazon.

Might have been a reprint of a Seattle Times hack piece. Truth is Amazon pays its Warehouse employees far better than they can find elsewhere for similar jobs and has a far better safety record than working in retail - not retail warehouses, mind you - better safety than actual retail counter employees.

Nothing about pay. Here's the article. I thought it was Amazon but is doesn't disclose which company it is. Given the products they are pulling, I would say it is probable she is at Amazon. To be fair, our top two major vendors run their warehouses in a similar way although they don't work the pickers quite this hard. So I profit from some of the same tactics.

ETA

Just noticed the "if you like this" at the bottom of the page and two of them are about Amazon.

When you move beyond the histrionics what is she really saying?1. It seems unsafe and companies use temp agencies to shield themselves from unsafe working conditions. Amazon has tens of thousands of it's own warehouse employees. They use temps at peak because it's a seasonal surge, not to protect themselves. "Seems unsafe" - really? Unsafe is unsafe and will show itself in safety metrics. Amazon's safety record is top notch so it speaks for itself regardless of this person's opinion of safety. If the conditions were unsafe, the metric would reflect that and they don't. There are two conversation enders at Amazon. One is that it will result in a negative customer experience and the other is that it will result in an unsafe condition. No BS. Those two things trump all.

2. The pay is bad. The pay is bad for seasonal temporary work? Imagine that. The fact is, Amazon warehouse employees get paid something like 30% above industry averages. The temps, truthfully, I'm not sure about, but I do know that the return rate of temps from one peak seaosn to the next is amazingly high.

3. You have to work hard. See #1 and #2. You have a safe job and are getting paid higher than you could make elsewhere, and in return you are asked to work hard - not so hard that it's unsafe and not outside of hourly employee standards, but hard. It's not for everyone. Some people are going to whine about working hard despite being compensated well for it. Same thing happens at corporate and you know what? You are welcome to go work somewhere else where you don't have to work as hard and make less.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

I recently read an article about picking in your warehouses. HFS, sounds like torture. Almost makes me feels bad ordering stuff from Amazon.

Might have been a reprint of a Seattle Times hack piece. Truth is Amazon pays its Warehouse employees far better than they can find elsewhere for similar jobs and has a far better safety record than working in retail - not retail warehouses, mind you - better safety than actual retail counter employees.

Nothing about pay. Here's the article. I thought it was Amazon but is doesn't disclose which company it is. Given the products they are pulling, I would say it is probable she is at Amazon. To be fair, our top two major vendors run their warehouses in a similar way although they don't work the pickers quite this hard. So I profit from some of the same tactics.

ETA

Just noticed the "if you like this" at the bottom of the page and two of them are about Amazon.

When you move beyond the histrionics what is she really saying?1. It seems unsafe and companies use temp agencies to shield themselves from unsafe working conditions. Amazon has tens of thousands of it's own warehouse employees. They use temps at peak because it's a seasonal surge, not to protect themselves. "Seems unsafe" - really? Unsafe is unsafe and will show itself in safety metrics. Amazon's safety record is top notch so it speaks for itself regardless of this person's opinion of safety. If the conditions were unsafe, the metric would reflect that and they don't. There are two conversation enders at Amazon. One is that it will result in a negative customer experience and the other is that it will result in an unsafe condition. No BS. Those two things trump all.

2. The pay is bad. The pay is bad for seasonal temporary work? Imagine that. The fact is, Amazon warehouse employees get paid something like 30% above industry averages. The temps, truthfully, I'm not sure about, but I do know that the return rate of temps from one peak seaosn to the next is amazingly high.

3. You have to work hard. See #1 and #2. You have a safe job and are getting paid higher than you could make elsewhere, and in return you are asked to work hard - not so hard that it's unsafe and not outside of hourly employee standards, but hard. It's not for everyone. Some people are going to whine about working hard despite being compensated well for it. Same thing happens at corporate and you know what? You are welcome to go work somewhere else where you don't have to work as hard and make less.

I'm not trying to demonize them, it just sounds like the suck to me, GB. You either take the job or you don't. I've worked many summers in really hot, dirty, warehouses and it really sucked. We didn't have to work nearly as hard as the chick in the article either.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

I recently read an article about picking in your warehouses. HFS, sounds like torture. Almost makes me feels bad ordering stuff from Amazon.

Might have been a reprint of a Seattle Times hack piece. Truth is Amazon pays its Warehouse employees far better than they can find elsewhere for similar jobs and has a far better safety record than working in retail - not retail warehouses, mind you - better safety than actual retail counter employees.

Nothing about pay. Here's the article. I thought it was Amazon but is doesn't disclose which company it is. Given the products they are pulling, I would say it is probable she is at Amazon. To be fair, our top two major vendors run their warehouses in a similar way although they don't work the pickers quite this hard. So I profit from some of the same tactics.

ETA

Just noticed the "if you like this" at the bottom of the page and two of them are about Amazon.

Huh.

Merry Christmas. I got you this giant black #### you wanted.

Ohh, thanks for the reminder.

 

[Drifter]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

I recently read an article about picking in your warehouses. HFS, sounds like torture. Almost makes me feels bad ordering stuff from Amazon.

Might have been a reprint of a Seattle Times hack piece. Truth is Amazon pays its Warehouse employees far better than they can find elsewhere for similar jobs and has a far better safety record than working in retail - not retail warehouses, mind you - better safety than actual retail counter employees.

Nothing about pay. Here's the article. I thought it was Amazon but is doesn't disclose which company it is. Given the products they are pulling, I would say it is probable she is at Amazon. To be fair, our top two major vendors run their warehouses in a similar way although they don't work the pickers quite this hard. So I profit from some of the same tactics.

ETA

Just noticed the "if you like this" at the bottom of the page and two of them are about Amazon.

When you move beyond the histrionics what is she really saying?1. It seems unsafe and companies use temp agencies to shield themselves from unsafe working conditions. Amazon has tens of thousands of it's own warehouse employees. They use temps at peak because it's a seasonal surge, not to protect themselves. "Seems unsafe" - really? Unsafe is unsafe and will show itself in safety metrics. Amazon's safety record is top notch so it speaks for itself regardless of this person's opinion of safety. If the conditions were unsafe, the metric would reflect that and they don't. There are two conversation enders at Amazon. One is that it will result in a negative customer experience and the other is that it will result in an unsafe condition. No BS. Those two things trump all.

2. The pay is bad. The pay is bad for seasonal temporary work? Imagine that. The fact is, Amazon warehouse employees get paid something like 30% above industry averages. The temps, truthfully, I'm not sure about, but I do know that the return rate of temps from one peak seaosn to the next is amazingly high.

3. You have to work hard. See #1 and #2. You have a safe job and are getting paid higher than you could make elsewhere, and in return you are asked to work hard - not so hard that it's unsafe and not outside of hourly employee standards, but hard. It's not for everyone. Some people are going to whine about working hard despite being compensated well for it. Same thing happens at corporate and you know what? You are welcome to go work somewhere else where you don't have to work as hard and make less.

I'm not trying to demonize them, it just sounds like the suck to me, GB. You either take the job or you don't. I've worked many summers in really hot, dirty, warehouses and it really sucked. We didn't have to work nearly as hard as the chick in the article either.

Amazon has actually spent millions over the last year puttting in air conditioning in their warehouses. Do you know many companies that are willing to air condition million square foot buildings?

 

[St. Louis Bob]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

I recently read an article about picking in your warehouses. HFS, sounds like torture. Almost makes me feels bad ordering stuff from Amazon.

Might have been a reprint of a Seattle Times hack piece. Truth is Amazon pays its Warehouse employees far better than they can find elsewhere for similar jobs and has a far better safety record than working in retail - not retail warehouses, mind you - better safety than actual retail counter employees.

Nothing about pay. Here's the article. I thought it was Amazon but is doesn't disclose which company it is. Given the products they are pulling, I would say it is probable she is at Amazon. To be fair, our top two major vendors run their warehouses in a similar way although they don't work the pickers quite this hard. So I profit from some of the same tactics.

ETA

Just noticed the "if you like this" at the bottom of the page and two of them are about Amazon.

When you move beyond the histrionics what is she really saying?1. It seems unsafe and companies use temp agencies to shield themselves from unsafe working conditions. Amazon has tens of thousands of it's own warehouse employees. They use temps at peak because it's a seasonal surge, not to protect themselves. "Seems unsafe" - really? Unsafe is unsafe and will show itself in safety metrics. Amazon's safety record is top notch so it speaks for itself regardless of this person's opinion of safety. If the conditions were unsafe, the metric would reflect that and they don't. There are two conversation enders at Amazon. One is that it will result in a negative customer experience and the other is that it will result in an unsafe condition. No BS. Those two things trump all.

2. The pay is bad. The pay is bad for seasonal temporary work? Imagine that. The fact is, Amazon warehouse employees get paid something like 30% above industry averages. The temps, truthfully, I'm not sure about, but I do know that the return rate of temps from one peak seaosn to the next is amazingly high.

3. You have to work hard. See #1 and #2. You have a safe job and are getting paid higher than you could make elsewhere, and in return you are asked to work hard - not so hard that it's unsafe and not outside of hourly employee standards, but hard. It's not for everyone. Some people are going to whine about working hard despite being compensated well for it. Same thing happens at corporate and you know what? You are welcome to go work somewhere else where you don't have to work as hard and make less.

I'm not trying to demonize them, it just sounds like the suck to me, GB. You either take the job or you don't. I've worked many summers in really hot, dirty, warehouses and it really sucked. We didn't have to work nearly as hard as the chick in the article either.

Amazon has actually spent millions over the last year puttting in air conditioning in their warehouses. Do you know many companies that are willing to air condition million square foot buildings?

Close to none. Again, I said the job sounded like hell to me. Settle the #### down.

 

[General Malaise]

*****ANNOUNCE*******

Please unsubscribe GM from text list. Muchos grasias.

 

[Drifter]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

I recently read an article about picking in your warehouses. HFS, sounds like torture. Almost makes me feels bad ordering stuff from Amazon.

Might have been a reprint of a Seattle Times hack piece. Truth is Amazon pays its Warehouse employees far better than they can find elsewhere for similar jobs and has a far better safety record than working in retail - not retail warehouses, mind you - better safety than actual retail counter employees.

Nothing about pay. Here's the article. I thought it was Amazon but is doesn't disclose which company it is. Given the products they are pulling, I would say it is probable she is at Amazon. To be fair, our top two major vendors run their warehouses in a similar way although they don't work the pickers quite this hard. So I profit from some of the same tactics.

ETA

Just noticed the "if you like this" at the bottom of the page and two of them are about Amazon.

When you move beyond the histrionics what is she really saying?1. It seems unsafe and companies use temp agencies to shield themselves from unsafe working conditions. Amazon has tens of thousands of it's own warehouse employees. They use temps at peak because it's a seasonal surge, not to protect themselves. "Seems unsafe" - really? Unsafe is unsafe and will show itself in safety metrics. Amazon's safety record is top notch so it speaks for itself regardless of this person's opinion of safety. If the conditions were unsafe, the metric would reflect that and they don't. There are two conversation enders at Amazon. One is that it will result in a negative customer experience and the other is that it will result in an unsafe condition. No BS. Those two things trump all.

2. The pay is bad. The pay is bad for seasonal temporary work? Imagine that. The fact is, Amazon warehouse employees get paid something like 30% above industry averages. The temps, truthfully, I'm not sure about, but I do know that the return rate of temps from one peak seaosn to the next is amazingly high.

3. You have to work hard. See #1 and #2. You have a safe job and are getting paid higher than you could make elsewhere, and in return you are asked to work hard - not so hard that it's unsafe and not outside of hourly employee standards, but hard. It's not for everyone. Some people are going to whine about working hard despite being compensated well for it. Same thing happens at corporate and you know what? You are welcome to go work somewhere else where you don't have to work as hard and make less.

I'm not trying to demonize them, it just sounds like the suck to me, GB. You either take the job or you don't. I've worked many summers in really hot, dirty, warehouses and it really sucked. We didn't have to work nearly as hard as the chick in the article either.

Amazon has actually spent millions over the last year puttting in air conditioning in their warehouses. Do you know many companies that are willing to air condition million square foot buildings?

Close to none. Again, I said the job sounded like hell to me. Settle the #### down.

These kinds of articles just piss me off. They obscure the truth in order to sensationalize. They are also the same people up in arms when Amazon buys a robotics company, screaming about how Amazon is trying to eliminate the very jobs they are trying to say are too hard.

 

[krista4]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

AGC. A recruiter gave me a call a couple of weeks ago and I finally got back to her yesterday. She had just said "on the west coast", much of which doesn't appeal, but when I talked to her and found out (1) Amazon and (2) Seattle I perked up. It's a step down in title and reporting relationship, but I hate my job/company with the fury of a million suns so am starting to think I need to move on earlier than the "move to Nicaragua" plan will allow, and I'd love to live in Seattle and work for a good company again.I have all the paperwork now and intend to send it in Friday. If this goes anywhere I'd definitely love to talk with you more about it. I'm encouraged to hear it pays well--that was my biggest concern because the recruiter did not have much information and indicated that the company said they wanted to discuss that directly with the candidates, which is pretty odd.

 

[phishphan]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

I recently read an article about picking in your warehouses. HFS, sounds like torture. Almost makes me feels bad ordering stuff from Amazon.

Might have been a reprint of a Seattle Times hack piece. Truth is Amazon pays its Warehouse employees far better than they can find elsewhere for similar jobs and has a far better safety record than working in retail - not retail warehouses, mind you - better safety than actual retail counter employees.

Nothing about pay. Here's the article. I thought it was Amazon but is doesn't disclose which company it is. Given the products they are pulling, I would say it is probable she is at Amazon. To be fair, our top two major vendors run their warehouses in a similar way although they don't work the pickers quite this hard. So I profit from some of the same tactics.

ETA

Just noticed the "if you like this" at the bottom of the page and two of them are about Amazon.

When you move beyond the histrionics what is she really saying?1. It seems unsafe and companies use temp agencies to shield themselves from unsafe working conditions. Amazon has tens of thousands of it's own warehouse employees. They use temps at peak because it's a seasonal surge, not to protect themselves. "Seems unsafe" - really? Unsafe is unsafe and will show itself in safety metrics. Amazon's safety record is top notch so it speaks for itself regardless of this person's opinion of safety. If the conditions were unsafe, the metric would reflect that and they don't. There are two conversation enders at Amazon. One is that it will result in a negative customer experience and the other is that it will result in an unsafe condition. No BS. Those two things trump all.

2. The pay is bad. The pay is bad for seasonal temporary work? Imagine that. The fact is, Amazon warehouse employees get paid something like 30% above industry averages. The temps, truthfully, I'm not sure about, but I do know that the return rate of temps from one peak seaosn to the next is amazingly high.

3. You have to work hard. See #1 and #2. You have a safe job and are getting paid higher than you could make elsewhere, and in return you are asked to work hard - not so hard that it's unsafe and not outside of hourly employee standards, but hard. It's not for everyone. Some people are going to whine about working hard despite being compensated well for it. Same thing happens at corporate and you know what? You are welcome to go work somewhere else where you don't have to work as hard and make less.

I'm not trying to demonize them, it just sounds like the suck to me, GB. You either take the job or you don't. I've worked many summers in really hot, dirty, warehouses and it really sucked. We didn't have to work nearly as hard as the chick in the article either.

Amazon has actually spent millions over the last year puttting in air conditioning in their warehouses. Do you know many companies that are willing to air condition million square foot buildings?

Close to none. Again, I said the job sounded like hell to me. Settle the #### down.

These kinds of articles just piss me off. They obscure the truth in order to sensationalize. They are also the same people up in arms when Amazon buys a robotics company, screaming about how Amazon is trying to eliminate the very jobs they are trying to say are too hard.

I'm getting ready to order a new TV from Amazon. Would you make sure that the 6-year-old foreign kids that y'all use for labor pack it correctly so it isn't damaged in transit? TIA

 

[Frostillicus]

Frosty, update on laptop situation?

Been drunk all afternoon. I will either try to get it running tonight or go to a meat raffle. That's not shtick.

 

[Frostillicus]

Apparently my job change now has three major corporations all pissed at each other.

 

[Drifter]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

AGC. A recruiter gave me a call a couple of weeks ago and I finally got back to her yesterday. She had just said "on the west coast", much of which doesn't appeal, but when I talked to her and found out (1) Amazon and (2) Seattle I perked up. It's a step down in title and reporting relationship, but I hate my job/company with the fury of a million suns so am starting to think I need to move on earlier than the "move to Nicaragua" plan will allow, and I'd love to live in Seattle and work for a good company again.I have all the paperwork now and intend to send it in Friday. If this goes anywhere I'd definitely love to talk with you more about it. I'm encouraged to hear it pays well--that was my biggest concern because the recruiter did not have much information and indicated that the company said they wanted to discuss that directly with the candidates, which is pretty odd.

2 steps below the CEO of a 40 billion dollar company isn't so bad...They discuss compensation directly because so much of it is wrapped up in the Restricted Stock Units and they want to walk though that directly. A typical offer will be a straight compensation somewhat less than you are used to with likely 2 cash sihning bonuses at start and 1 year anniversary. The real carrot will be a large chunk of RSU's that vest at 5% year 1, 15% year 2 and 20% every 6 months in years 3 and 4. In addition, you will get additional stock awarded every April that vests at 1 year, 1.5 and 2 years from award date.

Let's definitely chat before your first direct discussion. I can key you in on some of the basic things they are going to look for and how the typical process works even at that level.

Do you know what orgs you'd be AGC for?

 

[St. Louis Bob]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

I recently read an article about picking in your warehouses. HFS, sounds like torture. Almost makes me feels bad ordering stuff from Amazon.

Might have been a reprint of a Seattle Times hack piece. Truth is Amazon pays its Warehouse employees far better than they can find elsewhere for similar jobs and has a far better safety record than working in retail - not retail warehouses, mind you - better safety than actual retail counter employees.

Nothing about pay. Here's the article. I thought it was Amazon but is doesn't disclose which company it is. Given the products they are pulling, I would say it is probable she is at Amazon. To be fair, our top two major vendors run their warehouses in a similar way although they don't work the pickers quite this hard. So I profit from some of the same tactics.

ETA

Just noticed the "if you like this" at the bottom of the page and two of them are about Amazon.

When you move beyond the histrionics what is she really saying?1. It seems unsafe and companies use temp agencies to shield themselves from unsafe working conditions. Amazon has tens of thousands of it's own warehouse employees. They use temps at peak because it's a seasonal surge, not to protect themselves. "Seems unsafe" - really? Unsafe is unsafe and will show itself in safety metrics. Amazon's safety record is top notch so it speaks for itself regardless of this person's opinion of safety. If the conditions were unsafe, the metric would reflect that and they don't. There are two conversation enders at Amazon. One is that it will result in a negative customer experience and the other is that it will result in an unsafe condition. No BS. Those two things trump all.

2. The pay is bad. The pay is bad for seasonal temporary work? Imagine that. The fact is, Amazon warehouse employees get paid something like 30% above industry averages. The temps, truthfully, I'm not sure about, but I do know that the return rate of temps from one peak seaosn to the next is amazingly high.

3. You have to work hard. See #1 and #2. You have a safe job and are getting paid higher than you could make elsewhere, and in return you are asked to work hard - not so hard that it's unsafe and not outside of hourly employee standards, but hard. It's not for everyone. Some people are going to whine about working hard despite being compensated well for it. Same thing happens at corporate and you know what? You are welcome to go work somewhere else where you don't have to work as hard and make less.

I'm not trying to demonize them, it just sounds like the suck to me, GB. You either take the job or you don't. I've worked many summers in really hot, dirty, warehouses and it really sucked. We didn't have to work nearly as hard as the chick in the article either.

Amazon has actually spent millions over the last year puttting in air conditioning in their warehouses. Do you know many companies that are willing to air condition million square foot buildings?

Close to none. Again, I said the job sounded like hell to me. Settle the #### down.

These kinds of articles just piss me off. They obscure the truth in order to sensationalize. They are also the same people up in arms when Amazon buys a robotics company, screaming about how Amazon is trying to eliminate the very jobs they are trying to say are too hard.

I love you

 

[krista4]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

AGC. A recruiter gave me a call a couple of weeks ago and I finally got back to her yesterday. She had just said "on the west coast", much of which doesn't appeal, but when I talked to her and found out (1) Amazon and (2) Seattle I perked up. It's a step down in title and reporting relationship, but I hate my job/company with the fury of a million suns so am starting to think I need to move on earlier than the "move to Nicaragua" plan will allow, and I'd love to live in Seattle and work for a good company again.I have all the paperwork now and intend to send it in Friday. If this goes anywhere I'd definitely love to talk with you more about it. I'm encouraged to hear it pays well--that was my biggest concern because the recruiter did not have much information and indicated that the company said they wanted to discuss that directly with the candidates, which is pretty odd.

2 steps below the CEO of a 40 billion dollar company isn't so bad...They discuss compensation directly because so much of it is wrapped up in the Restricted Stock Units and they want to walk though that directly. A typical offer will be a straight compensation somewhat less than you are used to with likely 2 cash sihning bonuses at start and 1 year anniversary. The real carrot will be a large chunk of RSU's that vest at 5% year 1, 15% year 2 and 20% every 6 months in years 3 and 4. In addition, you will get additional stock awarded every April that vests at 1 year, 1.5 and 2 years from award date.

Let's definitely chat before your first direct discussion. I can key you in on some of the basic things they are going to look for and how the typical process works even at that level.

Do you know what orgs you'd be AGC for?

Yeah, but at my last job (prior to the crappy one I'm in now) I was two steps below CEO of a $55 billion company. I'll look into it all some more and PM you with questions so as not to fill this thread with Amazon chat. They did mention the two signing bonuses.

 

[Drifter]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

AGC. A recruiter gave me a call a couple of weeks ago and I finally got back to her yesterday. She had just said "on the west coast", much of which doesn't appeal, but when I talked to her and found out (1) Amazon and (2) Seattle I perked up. It's a step down in title and reporting relationship, but I hate my job/company with the fury of a million suns so am starting to think I need to move on earlier than the "move to Nicaragua" plan will allow, and I'd love to live in Seattle and work for a good company again.I have all the paperwork now and intend to send it in Friday. If this goes anywhere I'd definitely love to talk with you more about it. I'm encouraged to hear it pays well--that was my biggest concern because the recruiter did not have much information and indicated that the company said they wanted to discuss that directly with the candidates, which is pretty odd.

2 steps below the CEO of a 40 billion dollar company isn't so bad...They discuss compensation directly because so much of it is wrapped up in the Restricted Stock Units and they want to walk though that directly. A typical offer will be a straight compensation somewhat less than you are used to with likely 2 cash sihning bonuses at start and 1 year anniversary. The real carrot will be a large chunk of RSU's that vest at 5% year 1, 15% year 2 and 20% every 6 months in years 3 and 4. In addition, you will get additional stock awarded every April that vests at 1 year, 1.5 and 2 years from award date.

Let's definitely chat before your first direct discussion. I can key you in on some of the basic things they are going to look for and how the typical process works even at that level.

Do you know what orgs you'd be AGC for?

Yeah, but at my last job (prior to the crappy one I'm in now) I was two steps below CEO of a $55 billion company. I'll look into it all some more and PM you with questions so as not to fill this thread with Amazon chat. They did mention the two signing bonuses.

Good chance by this time next year, you still would be.

 

[krista4]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

AGC. A recruiter gave me a call a couple of weeks ago and I finally got back to her yesterday. She had just said "on the west coast", much of which doesn't appeal, but when I talked to her and found out (1) Amazon and (2) Seattle I perked up. It's a step down in title and reporting relationship, but I hate my job/company with the fury of a million suns so am starting to think I need to move on earlier than the "move to Nicaragua" plan will allow, and I'd love to live in Seattle and work for a good company again.I have all the paperwork now and intend to send it in Friday. If this goes anywhere I'd definitely love to talk with you more about it. I'm encouraged to hear it pays well--that was my biggest concern because the recruiter did not have much information and indicated that the company said they wanted to discuss that directly with the candidates, which is pretty odd.

2 steps below the CEO of a 40 billion dollar company isn't so bad...They discuss compensation directly because so much of it is wrapped up in the Restricted Stock Units and they want to walk though that directly. A typical offer will be a straight compensation somewhat less than you are used to with likely 2 cash sihning bonuses at start and 1 year anniversary. The real carrot will be a large chunk of RSU's that vest at 5% year 1, 15% year 2 and 20% every 6 months in years 3 and 4. In addition, you will get additional stock awarded every April that vests at 1 year, 1.5 and 2 years from award date.

Let's definitely chat before your first direct discussion. I can key you in on some of the basic things they are going to look for and how the typical process works even at that level.

Do you know what orgs you'd be AGC for?

Yeah, but at my last job (prior to the crappy one I'm in now) I was two steps below CEO of a $55 billion company. I'll look into it all some more and PM you with questions so as not to fill this thread with Amazon chat. They did mention the two signing bonuses.

Good chance by this time next year, you still would be.

That is definitely part of the appeal! I'm glad to hear you saying good things about working there. You don't talk about it a lot so I wasn't sure. That's a big plus, knowing that people are excited about being at the company.

 

[shuke]

*****ANNOUNCE*******

 

[shuke]

I like Amazon.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I like Amazon.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I like Amazon.

Me too. I have a Prime membership and bought my wife a Kindle. Hate the Kindle though. She spends WAY to much time reading books that don't make her horny.

 

[shuke]

How much are those Kindle thingies? Still putting off getting one, for multiple reasons. But I have $40 to spend at Amazon so I guess I could put it towards one.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

How much are those Kindle thingies? Still putting off getting one, for multiple reasons. But I have $40 to spend at Amazon so I guess I could put it towards one.

$199.00

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

How much are those Kindle thingies? Still putting off getting one, for multiple reasons. But I have $40 to spend at Amazon so I guess I could put it towards one.

basic wi-fi reader is just $79

 

[cosjobs]

Wife, mom and I all love our Kindles

5 costars

 

[mr. furley]

I...uhhh....umm...I think...uhhh

whoa

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So last weekend we were out of town for my cousin's wedding. The reception was actually on the ISU campus. Mrs. SLB made a remark about how it "smelled like college" in the building and man did it ever. Really brought back memories.

Anyhow after the short (thank God) wedding, we headed to a bar close to the reception for a few cocktails. Those of you on the text list got a pic of the blond that is the GF of one of my cousins. Seriously hate him. So hot. Anyhow, his brother had a lady friend there, Krista, as his date that I never met before. (Hack, she is half Inuit!) Good looking chick too and likes to booze. She would be perfect for me. Anyhow Cal noticed her at the bar and approached her.

crappy pic

I'm sorry, but Medici isn't a bar.

Not only was there a bar, there were TWO bars.

Outback has a bar, too, but that doesn't make Outback a bar.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The "bad" news? She has to go down to L.A. to train for 3 weeks starting next week.

I took this to mean that you want me to take some vacation time and go out there and live with you for a couple weeks? Should be fun, we'll hit some BINGO parlors, I'll take you for walks and we'll go to Olive Garden. I hope you have freeze pops. I'll bring some CatNip. Can't wait!!!

If you're really feeling crazy the Olive Garden is within walking distance.

Good restaurant bar. Apparently

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think based on everything I've ever typed here, we both know that my behavior is not quite normal. I'm questioning her behavior of coming to my house unannounced with strangers, knocking on my door, looking in my windows and texting me to let them in.

Coming there in the first place was moderately strange, but I think the bar for strange shifts a little bit when you've known someone since you were pissing in diapers (the first time, Tanner). Those people can get away with more than other people can.Coming back and just saying, "We're at your front door again" is really strange. Ignoring that she should have texted you back to see if it was cool, I can't imagine being the old people she's dragging around by the catheter."OK, I got a text from 'zooks. Let's head back over there.""He invited us over?""Well, not exactly, but I'm sure if we just show up a second time, things will be different. Take off your oxygen mask so we can walk down the block again and see if he'll let us in this time."

 

[Drifter]

Zooks - how do you know the "us" she was referring to were the folks she was staying with? How do you know it wasn't her hot friend and she was just bringing her by for a little impromtu 3-way.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

So last weekend we were out of town for my cousin's wedding. The reception was actually on the ISU campus. Mrs. SLB made a remark about how it "smelled like college" in the building and man did it ever. Really brought back memories.

Anyhow after the short (thank God) wedding, we headed to a bar close to the reception for a few cocktails. Those of you on the text list got a pic of the blond that is the GF of one of my cousins. Seriously hate him. So hot. Anyhow, his brother had a lady friend there, Krista, as his date that I never met before. (Hack, she is half Inuit!) Good looking chick too and likes to booze. She would be perfect for me. Anyhow Cal noticed her at the bar and approached her.

crappy pic

I'm sorry, but Medici isn't a bar.

Not only was there a bar, there were TWO bars.

Outback has a bar, too, but that doesn't make Outback a bar.

I've never been to Outback so I'll have to take your word for it.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So last weekend we were out of town for my cousin's wedding. The reception was actually on the ISU campus. Mrs. SLB made a remark about how it "smelled like college" in the building and man did it ever. Really brought back memories.

Anyhow after the short (thank God) wedding, we headed to a bar close to the reception for a few cocktails. Those of you on the text list got a pic of the blond that is the GF of one of my cousins. Seriously hate him. So hot. Anyhow, his brother had a lady friend there, Krista, as his date that I never met before. (Hack, she is half Inuit!) Good looking chick too and likes to booze. She would be perfect for me. Anyhow Cal noticed her at the bar and approached her.

crappy pic

I'm sorry, but Medici isn't a bar.

Not only was there a bar, there were TWO bars.

Outback has a bar, too, but that doesn't make Outback a bar.

I've never been to Outback so I'll have to take your word for it.

It's the Olive Garden of steak. Good bar.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

So last weekend we were out of town for my cousin's wedding. The reception was actually on the ISU campus. Mrs. SLB made a remark about how it "smelled like college" in the building and man did it ever. Really brought back memories.

Anyhow after the short (thank God) wedding, we headed to a bar close to the reception for a few cocktails. Those of you on the text list got a pic of the blond that is the GF of one of my cousins. Seriously hate him. So hot. Anyhow, his brother had a lady friend there, Krista, as his date that I never met before. (Hack, she is half Inuit!) Good looking chick too and likes to booze. She would be perfect for me. Anyhow Cal noticed her at the bar and approached her.

crappy pic

I'm sorry, but Medici isn't a bar.

Not only was there a bar, there were TWO bars.

Outback has a bar, too, but that doesn't make Outback a bar.

I've never been to Outback so I'll have to take your word for it.

It's the Olive Garden of steak. Good bar.

I knew somebody would bite on the OG comment, surprised it is you.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Big news around here...Wife works as a catering manager for a large chain restaurant. She just found out this morning that they are doing away with her position (and all of the other catering managers). The good news is that she will move to just being a regular in-house manager. She'll probably be making the same amount of money to start off. Her salary will be higher but she won't earn commission like she used to. I'm fine with that since they constantly monkeyed with her commission requirements. The other good news is that there is a good chance she will be inline to be a general manager sometime in the next year. The "bad" news? She has to go down to L.A. to train for 3 weeks starting next week.

Nevermind the PM I was going to send you, then.Wait...

 

[Guster]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

Do you hire people with degrees in chemical engineering and 11+ years on experience in consumer research??

 

[-fish-]

can someone pm me when amazon chat is over and we get back to Gadzooks' stalker?

TIA,

your pal,

-fish-

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

When's the Malaise baby shower?

How far of a drive is Portland from Seattle anyway? I'm thinking I should try and see some west coast football while I'm out here. Oregon, Washington, Seahawks, etc.

Should probably check out an MLS game or two as well. So much to do. These 5+ months are going to fly by.

 

[-fish-]

When's the Malaise baby shower?How far of a drive is Portland from Seattle anyway? I'm thinking I should try and see some west coast football while I'm out here. Oregon, Washington, Seahawks, etc.Should probably check out an MLS game or two as well. So much to do. These 5+ months are going to fly by.

Portland's just a little over 3 hours from Seattle, although if you stop by Gig Harbor for a drink with me on the way down, it's probably more like a day and a half.

 

[Drifter]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

Do you hire people with degrees in chemical engineering and 11+ years on experience in consumer research??

Likely, yes. PM me if you're serious

 

[cosjobs]

So, ummmmm, Drifter, what's it like working at Amazon?

Let's all move to Seattle!

Thoprawishes and/or congrats to shuke's feet and everyone else on whatever I've missed the past few days.

Serously? Associate General Counsel or Director?There are ups and downs but it's a bit different for the legal folks in that their peak season is the summer/early fall as opposed to Thanksgiving to Christmas.

Factors -

- Pro - Pays well, particularly in years 3 and 4 when most of your initial stock award vests plus that is supplemented by your year 1 and 2 annual awards.

- Con - insanely busy and understaffed most of the time and for 6 weeks of the year that business will push most people to their limits. The volumes you are dealing in are also hard to wrap your head around at times and the pressures to perform is very high.

- Pro - Depending on what department you work in, you have a large amount of influence over a giant company doing some pretty amazing, groundbreaking things and are surrounded by incredibly talented people (mostly).

- Con - Depending on what department you work in, the systems and infrastructure are shockingly bad.

We can have a more detailed conversation if you want.

Do you hire people with degrees in chemical engineering and 11+ years on experience in consumer research??

Can you operate a forklift?

 

[cosjobs]

can someone pm me when amazon chat is over and we get back to Gadzooks' stalker? TIA,your pal,-fish-

You could answer your texts in the interim.

 

[proninja]

Sounds like we need some sort of official GMTAN welcome to Seattle packet