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I keep seeing sales on this for $300. People say "yea, but you'll replace it in 3 years". Probably an exaggeration. I've gotten 7 years out of my cheap Kenmore, although I probably should have replaced it a year ago. So what's the different between buying a $1500 Weber once every fifteen years or five $300 ones in the same time frame?
I'm cheap and go with Char-broils since they're dirt cheap. I usually get 3 to 5 years out of them but I keep them under the porch. If you expose yours to rain you'll probably get less life out of them.
Cover won't work?

 
Your recommendations would be welcome on:

A gas grill. This is really the tough one for me. Of course everyone says Weber, but the for the size that I want, I'm looking at like $1400. Just seems ridiculous. I have seen some in the $600 range, but they are just a bit small for my tastes. When I grill, I throw everything on there, and like to have a lot of room.
Big Green Egg. YSR will back me up on this.

I keep seeing sales on this for $300. People say "yea, but you'll replace it in 3 years". Probably an exaggeration. I've gotten 7 years out of my cheap Kenmore, although I probably should have replaced it a year ago. So what's the different between buying a $1500 Weber once every fifteen years or five $300 ones in the same time frame?
nonsense. I have a gas grill I paid $100 almost 10 years ago, and I'm just now going to have to replace it (bottom rusted out). Get a cover for it and that thing will last a pretty long time.
Yeah, this.

But then again does keeping your grill outdoors in an area with a cold climate cause it to wear out faster?
This is a :goodposting: though. Pickles is right, BBQ is 1000x better over charcoal.

 
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OK guys, I need some purchasing help. There are a number of items I've been dragging my feet on purchasing. Every time I think I find what I what, I end up seeing a lot of bad reviews. I think I've documented how I've become super cheap over the past 5 years, so I think that is part of it also.

Your recommendations would be welcome on:

A gas grill. This is really the tough one for me. Of course everyone says Weber, but the for the size that I want, I'm looking at like $1400. Just seems ridiculous. I have seen some in the $600 range, but they are just a bit small for my tastes. When I grill, I throw everything on there, and like to have a lot of room.

IF YOU CAN HOLD OFF UNTIL FALL, THESE WILL BE MUCH CHEAPER. IF YOU WANT TO BUY NOW, I'D GO TO COSTCO AND GET ONE TO SUE FOR THE SUMMER AND IF IT IS NOT TO YOUR EXPECTATIONS, RETURN IT. YOU MIGHT LOOK INTO ONE OF THOSE DUAL ONES THAT USES CHARCOAL ON ONE SIDE AND HAS PROPANE ON THE OTHER. I'VE SEEN SOME SOLID LOOKING ONES IN THE 300-400 RANGE

Camcorder. Doesn't have to be too high tech. Just something to capture the kids' childhood on for their future viewing.

LOOK FOR SOMETHING ON CLEARANCE. I'VE BEEN NEEDING ONE FOR A WHILE. LAST WEEK I WAS IN STAPLES AND FOUND A NEW HD PANASONIC FOR $70 (ORIGINALLY ~300). THEY ARE GETTING KIND OF EASY TO FIND AT CLEARANCE PRICES BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS THIS STUFF BUILT INTO THEIR PHONES NOW.

A tent. Just need something that will fit two queen air mattresses plus gear. A lot of things I've looked at either look like they don't have enough air flow, or too much (screens don't zip up, just rain fly covering). Almost bought this today, until I saw a single review about little air flow.

STAY IN A MOTEL OR A PLACE THAT HAS CABINS FOR RENT. OTHERWISE BUY SOMETHING YOU REALIZE WILL ONLY LAST A SEASON OR MAYBE TWO. YOU MIGHT START WITH A CHEAP ONE FROM CRAIGSLIST AND MAKE SURE THAT ITS SOMETHING YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WANT TO DEAL WITH. THEY ARE CHEAPLY MADE OVERALL AND A BEAR TO ASSEMBLE THE SECOND OR THIRD USE WHNEN PARTS ARE MISSING. AGAIN, IT WILL BE CHEAPER AT THE END OF THE SEASON.
 
I keep seeing sales on this for $300. People say "yea, but you'll replace it in 3 years". Probably an exaggeration. I've gotten 7 years out of my cheap Kenmore, although I probably should have replaced it a year ago. So what's the different between buying a $1500 Weber once every fifteen years or five $300 ones in the same time frame?
nonsense. I have a gas grill I paid $100 almost 10 years ago, and I'm just now going to have to replace it (bottom rusted out). Get a cover for it and that thing will last a pretty long time.
I've had a cover on my Kenmore every day since I bought it. The inside of the lid is all rust. We're getting rust flakes with every dinner!

 
It both satirizes and affirms a cherished male fantasy: that however antisocial, self-absorbed and downright unattractive a man may be, he can always be rescued by the love of a good woman. (What's in it for her is less clear.)
:confused: How did I not love this movie?

 
I'm actually getting an iphone next week for work finally. Are you telling me I don't need to buy a video camera?
You only need a video camera if you want video lengths 100x the attention span of anyone who may someday watch said videos.
So how long we talking. Won't this be based on how much memory my phone has? Does this actually take quality video, with a stabilizer and ####?

 
If anybody ever needed proof that our friend Officer Pete just trolls people when it comes to movies, just look at his opinion on "Sideways."

I firmly believe he's way too good to enjoy that wretched pile of dreck movie
I enjoyed it, but I'm not some snobby wine drinker.
Wine is vile stuff. Can't stand it. But that has no bearing on the quality of the movie. I've worn a pair of ice skates in my life but that doesn't mean Slap Shot isn't funny.
I really liked AO Scott's essay in the NY Times about the reasons that movie critics vastly overrated Sideways. Some excerpts:

>Still, the reaction to "Sideways" is worth noting, less because it isn't quite as good as everyone seems to be saying it is than because the near-unanimous praise of it reveals something about the psychology of critics, as distinct from our taste. Miles, the movie's hero, has been variously described as a drunk, a wine snob, a sad sack and a loser, but it has seldom been mentioned that he is also, by temperament if not by profession, a critic.

The contrast between him and his friend Jack is partly the difference between an uptight, insecure epicurean and a swinging, self-deluding hedonist, but it is more crucially the difference between a sensibility that subjects every experience to judgment and analysis and a personality happy to accept whatever the moment offers. When they taste wine, Jack is apt to say "tastes good to me," and leave it at that, whereas Miles tends not only to be more exacting in his judgment ("quaffable but not transcendent," which is about how I feel about "Sideways"), but also more prone to narrate, to interpret - to find a language for the most subtle and ephemeral sensations of his palate. ...

... the self-pity and solipsism that are Miles's less attractive (and frequently most prominent) traits represent the underside of the critical temperament; his morbid sensitivity may be an occupational hazard we all face.

In "Sideways," a good many critics see themselves, and it is only natural that we should love what we see. Not that critics are the only ones, by any means, but the affection that we have lavished on this film has the effect of emphasizing the narrowness of its vision, and perhaps our own. It both satirizes and affirms a cherished male fantasy: that however antisocial, self-absorbed and downright unattractive a man may be, he can always be rescued by the love of a good woman. (What's in it for her is less clear.)
Not to diminish his take on Sideways, but A.O. Scott is a terrible film critic. The guy likes more garbage than Frosty bored and drunk on a Saturday preusing his VHS collection.

 
I have a cheap Char-Broil. It does its job but I would prefer something better. It doesn't heat evenly. But I'm going on 4 years with it (with cover) and there's no rust yet.

 
Your recommendations would be welcome on:

A gas grill. This is really the tough one for me. Of course everyone says Weber, but the for the size that I want, I'm looking at like $1400. Just seems ridiculous. I have seen some in the $600 range, but they are just a bit small for my tastes. When I grill, I throw everything on there, and like to have a lot of room.
Big Green Egg. YSR will back me up on this.

I keep seeing sales on this for $300. People say "yea, but you'll replace it in 3 years". Probably an exaggeration. I've gotten 7 years out of my cheap Kenmore, although I probably should have replaced it a year ago. So what's the different between buying a $1500 Weber once every fifteen years or five $300 ones in the same time frame?
nonsense. I have a gas grill I paid $100 almost 10 years ago, and I'm just now going to have to replace it (bottom rusted out). Get a cover for it and that thing will last a pretty long time.
Yeah, this.

But then again does keeping your grill outdoors in an area with a cold climate cause it to wear out faster?
This is a :goodposting: though. Pickles is right, BBQ is 1000x better over charcoal.
BGE is awesome, but I don't always have the time.

 
Your recommendations would be welcome on:

A gas grill. This is really the tough one for me. Of course everyone says Weber, but the for the size that I want, I'm looking at like $1400. Just seems ridiculous. I have seen some in the $600 range, but they are just a bit small for my tastes. When I grill, I throw everything on there, and like to have a lot of room.
Big Green Egg. YSR will back me up on this.

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I keep seeing sales on this for $300. People say "yea, but you'll replace it in 3 years". Probably an exaggeration. I've gotten 7 years out of my cheap Kenmore, although I probably should have replaced it a year ago. So what's the different between buying a $1500 Weber once every fifteen years or five $300 ones in the same time frame?
nonsense. I have a gas grill I paid $100 almost 10 years ago, and I'm just now going to have to replace it (bottom rusted out). Get a cover for it and that thing will last a pretty long time.
Yeah, this.

But then again does keeping your grill outdoors in an area with a cold climate cause it to wear out faster?
This is a :goodposting: though. Pickles is right, BBQ is 1000x better over charcoal.
That's why I got this. Though it has its drawbacks, overall it's been handy. I also don't really have to worry about the rust factor, which I understand can be problematic with them.

 
It both satirizes and affirms a cherished male fantasy: that however antisocial, self-absorbed and downright unattractive a man may be, he can always be rescued by the love of a good woman. (What's in it for her is less clear.)
:confused: How did I not love this movie?
You're not antisocial or unattractive :unsure:

Clearer still is why Tanner loves it.
Ouch.
Yeah. Probably shouldn't have implied Sacamano was self-absorbed. I'm sorry, GB.

 
It both satirizes and affirms a cherished male fantasy: that however antisocial, self-absorbed and downright unattractive a man may be, he can always be rescued by the love of a good woman. (What's in it for her is less clear.)
:confused: How did I not love this movie?
You're not antisocial or unattractive :unsure:

Clearer still is why Tanner loves it.
:wub:

You're my favorite liar of all-time.

 
Speaking of cooking, anybody watch Ratalouille? Well we watched it with the boys Sunday night. Pretty lame overall. Anyhow in the very beginning, they show a clip of the rat walking through the rafters of a hotel or something and he can see what's going on in the rooms through holes in the ceiling. One of the rooms had a guy and gal fighting, he's holding both her wrists and she has a gun. Very odd. The rat walks by then doubles back to see that they are now kissing. Cal laughs and says "you should never date a girl with a gun".

 
Your recommendations would be welcome on:

A gas grill. This is really the tough one for me. Of course everyone says Weber, but the for the size that I want, I'm looking at like $1400. Just seems ridiculous. I have seen some in the $600 range, but they are just a bit small for my tastes. When I grill, I throw everything on there, and like to have a lot of room.
Big Green Egg. YSR will back me up on this.
So will I. Made Ribeye on the BGE for lunch today, in fact :thumbup:

Cooking steak at 700 degrees makes it fun

 
Oh yeah, Next we watched the original Karate Kid. That went over a lot better and I hadn't seen most of it in years. I'm guessing the updated version is much more PC. Anyhow, this morning I shout upstairs, "Cal, hurry up or your cereal is going to get soggy!" Dylan, already finished and about to brush his teeth rhymes it with "yeah, Mr, Miyagi :lol:".

 
If Bob ever compiled a book of Cal's wisdom, I'd buy it and display it proudly on my bookshelf.
:lmao: I filter out the crazy.

Your recommendations would be welcome on:

A gas grill. This is really the tough one for me. Of course everyone says Weber, but the for the size that I want, I'm looking at like $1400. Just seems ridiculous. I have seen some in the $600 range, but they are just a bit small for my tastes. When I grill, I throw everything on there, and like to have a lot of room.
Big Green Egg. YSR will back me up on this.

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I keep seeing sales on this for $300. People say "yea, but you'll replace it in 3 years". Probably an exaggeration. I've gotten 7 years out of my cheap Kenmore, although I probably should have replaced it a year ago. So what's the different between buying a $1500 Weber once every fifteen years or five $300 ones in the same time frame?
nonsense. I have a gas grill I paid $100 almost 10 years ago, and I'm just now going to have to replace it (bottom rusted out). Get a cover for it and that thing will last a pretty long time.
Yeah, this.

But then again does keeping your grill outdoors in an area with a cold climate cause it to wear out faster?
This is a :goodposting: though. Pickles is right, BBQ is 1000x better over charcoal.
That's why I got this. Though it has its drawbacks, overall it's been handy. I also don't really have to worry about the rust factor, which I understand can be problematic with them.
My GB in KC has one of these. Works out nicely and the smoker is really good.

 
If Bob ever compiled a book of Cal's wisdom, I'd buy it and display it proudly on my bookshelf.
:lmao: I filter out the crazy.

>

Your recommendations would be welcome on:

A gas grill. This is really the tough one for me. Of course everyone says Weber, but the for the size that I want, I'm looking at like $1400. Just seems ridiculous. I have seen some in the $600 range, but they are just a bit small for my tastes. When I grill, I throw everything on there, and like to have a lot of room.
Big Green Egg. YSR will back me up on this.

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I keep seeing sales on this for $300. People say "yea, but you'll replace it in 3 years". Probably an exaggeration. I've gotten 7 years out of my cheap Kenmore, although I probably should have replaced it a year ago. So what's the different between buying a $1500 Weber once every fifteen years or five $300 ones in the same time frame?
nonsense. I have a gas grill I paid $100 almost 10 years ago, and I'm just now going to have to replace it (bottom rusted out). Get a cover for it and that thing will last a pretty long time.
Yeah, this.

But then again does keeping your grill outdoors in an area with a cold climate cause it to wear out faster?
This is a :goodposting: though. Pickles is right, BBQ is 1000x better over charcoal.
That's why I got this. Though it has its drawbacks, overall it's been handy. I also don't really have to worry about the rust factor, which I understand can be problematic with them.
My GB in KC has one of these. Works out nicely and the smoker is really good.
If you use the smoker box, you'll see a lot of suggestions online for modifications to help it retain heat. I haven't pursued any of them, but it doesn't take long to understand why people suggest it.

I bought it because my wife wanted a gas grill, while I'm going to use charcoal if I'm grilling. This was a compromise. She wanted the gas because, "If we had the gas grill, I'd use it instead in the oven sometimes during the summer. It would be great to have that option to keep from making the house hotter when it's 115 outside."

I think I've had that grill about 4-5 years now. Shockingly, she's never used it.

 
If anybody ever needed proof that our friend Officer Pete just trolls people when it comes to movies, just look at his opinion on "Sideways."

I firmly believe he's way too good to enjoy that wretched pile of dreck movie
I enjoyed it, but I'm not some snobby wine drinker.
Wine is vile stuff. Can't stand it. But that has no bearing on the quality of the movie. I've worn a pair of ice skates in my life but that doesn't mean Slap Shot isn't funny.
I really liked AO Scott's essay in the NY Times about the reasons that movie critics vastly overrated Sideways. Some excerpts:

>Still, the reaction to "Sideways" is worth noting, less because it isn't quite as good as everyone seems to be saying it is than because the near-unanimous praise of it reveals something about the psychology of critics, as distinct from our taste. Miles, the movie's hero, has been variously described as a drunk, a wine snob, a sad sack and a loser, but it has seldom been mentioned that he is also, by temperament if not by profession, a critic.

The contrast between him and his friend Jack is partly the difference between an uptight, insecure epicurean and a swinging, self-deluding hedonist, but it is more crucially the difference between a sensibility that subjects every experience to judgment and analysis and a personality happy to accept whatever the moment offers. When they taste wine, Jack is apt to say "tastes good to me," and leave it at that, whereas Miles tends not only to be more exacting in his judgment ("quaffable but not transcendent," which is about how I feel about "Sideways"), but also more prone to narrate, to interpret - to find a language for the most subtle and ephemeral sensations of his palate. ...

... the self-pity and solipsism that are Miles's less attractive (and frequently most prominent) traits represent the underside of the critical temperament; his morbid sensitivity may be an occupational hazard we all face.

In "Sideways," a good many critics see themselves, and it is only natural that we should love what we see. Not that critics are the only ones, by any means, but the affection that we have lavished on this film has the effect of emphasizing the narrowness of its vision, and perhaps our own. It both satirizes and affirms a cherished male fantasy: that however antisocial, self-absorbed and downright unattractive a man may be, he can always be rescued by the love of a good woman. (What's in it for her is less clear.)
AO Scott sounds like he takes it up the butt a lot.

 
The couple I mentioned we had dinner with on Kauai just got back today. The wife went through security with a bag they used for a picnic. Puts the bag through the scanner and TSA starts going all crazy. Oh no, she just remembers she had a steak knife in there. Except they don't care about the steak knife, no they are concerned about the mini can of salt she also had in there. She spent 45 minutes with them while they interrogated her and tested to make sure it wasn't a bomb. Don't worry, they let her go and take the knife on the plane. :mellow:

 
Your recommendations would be welcome on:

A gas grill. This is really the tough one for me. Of course everyone says Weber, but the for the size that I want, I'm looking at like $1400. Just seems ridiculous. I have seen some in the $600 range, but they are just a bit small for my tastes. When I grill, I throw everything on there, and like to have a lot of room.
Big Green Egg. YSR will back me up on this.

>

I keep seeing sales on this for $300. People say "yea, but you'll replace it in 3 years". Probably an exaggeration. I've gotten 7 years out of my cheap Kenmore, although I probably should have replaced it a year ago. So what's the different between buying a $1500 Weber once every fifteen years or five $300 ones in the same time frame?
nonsense. I have a gas grill I paid $100 almost 10 years ago, and I'm just now going to have to replace it (bottom rusted out). Get a cover for it and that thing will last a pretty long time.
Yeah, this.

But then again does keeping your grill outdoors in an area with a cold climate cause it to wear out faster?
This is a :goodposting: though. Pickles is right, BBQ is 1000x better over charcoal.
BGE is awesome, but I don't always have the time.
:rolleyes:

 
If anybody ever needed proof that our friend Officer Pete just trolls people when it comes to movies, just look at his opinion on "Sideways."

I firmly believe he's way too good to enjoy that wretched pile of dreck movie
Go back to your VHS copy of "American Flyers", Cutter.
http://i.imgur.com/0Kzd6hb.png
http://i.imgur.com/Sd5m7.gif
The guy on the right laughing is one of my advisees. No shtick.
 
If anybody ever needed proof that our friend Officer Pete just trolls people when it comes to movies, just look at his opinion on "Sideways."

I firmly believe he's way too good to enjoy that wretched pile of dreck movie
Go back to your VHS copy of "American Flyers", Cutter.
http://i.imgur.com/0Kzd6hb.png
http://i.imgur.com/Sd5m7.gif
The guy on the right laughing is one of my advisees. No shtick.
Does he spray his jeans with Febreze, place them in a paper bag, then put them in a freezer?

 
I'm actually getting an iphone next week for work finally. Are you telling me I don't need to buy a video camera?
You only need a video camera if you want video lengths 100x the attention span of anyone who may someday watch said videos.
So how long we talking. Won't this be based on how much memory my phone has? Does this actually take quality video, with a stabilizer and ####?
It's great for 1-5 minute candid videos of the kids (or of shots or of erm... bedroom stuff). It's not great for zooming or recording an entire kids sporting event or recital or whatever. But really, why would you want to watch that again? Just experience it the first time without looking through a view finder.

You can fit quite a bit on your phone, depending of course on how much memory it has. You'll want to dump it to a computer fairly regularly.

Some high end examples of the quality an iPhone can achieve here...

http://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/best-iphone-videos/

 
If anybody ever needed proof that our friend Officer Pete just trolls people when it comes to movies, just look at his opinion on "Sideways."

I firmly believe he's way too good to enjoy that wretched pile of dreck movie
Go back to your VHS copy of "American Flyers", Cutter.
http://i.imgur.com/0Kzd6hb.png
http://i.imgur.com/Sd5m7.gif
The guy on the right laughing is one of my advisees. No shtick.
WAT

 
A friend of mine posted pictures on Facebook of her son--about eight years old--in his soccer uniform. One of her friends, appearing to be early 40s, posted "Go go go you Lil hunk!!! He's so yummy !"

Is calling your friend's very young son "yummy" kind of, errrr, creepy? :nohomer:

 
A friend of mine posted pictures on Facebook of her son--about eight years old--in his soccer uniform. One of her friends, appearing to be early 40s, posted "Go go go you Lil hunk!!! He's so yummy !" Is calling your friend's very young son "yummy" kind of, errrr, creepy? :nohomer:
Facebook makes people say dumb things.
 

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