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GnR : Appetite For Destruction (1 Viewer)

I think Miley Cyrus' latest album is far superior.

And aren't you also overlooking The Jonas Brothers and High School Musical?

 
public enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back" is musical napalm. it rocks harder than pretty much everything listed. songwriting? check. great beats? check. attitude? check.
Is this the album that had the collaboration with Anthrax?
anthrax did a remix with PE on it...
"Bass, how low can you go...."God, I haven't heard that song in years. Good choice, with PE. I need to dig out some of their music. It's been over a decade since I listened to them.
i listen to "fear of a black planet" pretty regularly and it holds up really well. paired with "it takes a nation...", these might be the best 1-2 punch in music. they are just lights out fantastic.
Best 1-2 punch in music (albums released one after another)1. AfD, Lies - GNR2. Gentlemen, Black Love - Afghan Whigs3. Being THere, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - Wilco4. Strangers Almanac, Pneumonia - Whiskeytown
Other good 1-2's:Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets - MetallicaRevolver, Sgt. Pepper's - The BeatlesLed Zeppelin, Led Zeppelin IISticky Fingers, Exile on Main St. - The Rolling StonesHighway to Hell, Back In Black - AC/DCLicensed to Ill, Paul's Boutique - Beastie BoysOK Computer, Kid A - RadioheadBleach, Nevermind - NirvanaTen, Vs. - Pearl JamDark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here - Pink FloydAfter the Gold Rush, Harvest - Neil YoungThis is fun... should be it's own thread. Probably already is, but I am too lazy to search.
 
As good or better...

The Black Crowes - Shake Your Money Maker (1990)

Metallica - Metallica (1991)

Van Halen - For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge (1991)

Pearl Jam - Ten (1991)

 
Arright, that was snobby, but the VH album with the saucy name just isn't in the same conversation.

I honestly think that AfD is unparalleled, but the following albums/discs should probably be mentioned and haven't:

- Live - Throwing Copper

- Foo Fighters - There is Nothing Left to Lose

- STP - Purple

 
The original band GnR, the best rock band ever imo. I am looking forward to Cineese Democracy although I anticipate being disappointed.

 
Metallica-Black Album (Self Titled)This came out in 1991 and had a very long shelf life...from Enter Sandman to Wherever I May Roam to The Unforgiven to Nothing Else Matters...this a,bum also launched a very lengthy World Tour where they eventually played with the band you started the thread about. I love AfD and probably listen to that more than Metallica. With AfD, it's the songs that weren't played on the radio like Its So Easy, Nighttrain, Rocket Queen...I'm not sure anything can top it. Just for more conversation, I would also throw Tom Petty, Full Moon Fever...it has some pretty awesome songs, albeit not quite as hard rock as GnR and Metallica, but Running Down a Dream and Won't Back Down are pretty kick ### in my book. I believe almost every track on that CD is very listenable...I played it to death on both cross country trips I have been on.
I'm hoping I am never at an event that MoP has the keys to the DJ booth.
:angry:
 
Really hate the Black Album by Metallica, but And Justice For All was published post Appetite and I think it's better. Also a fan of Sailing the Seas of Cheese. It had a ton of great songs on it. Acid Bath's first album was great too, but there's probably a whopping 4 people on this board who have even heard When the Kite String Pops, but it's a great one.

edit - It's obviously tough to make a good list, and some of the ones listed are totally a function of personal taste (I doubt many people here like Primus, but that's becuase they suck)

Appetite is clearly one of the greatest albums of this time period

 
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Arright, that was snobby, but the VH album with the saucy name just isn't in the same conversation.

I honestly think that AfD is unparalleled, but the following albums/discs should probably be mentioned and haven't:

- Live - Throwing Copper

- Foo Fighters - There is Nothing Left to Lose

- STP - Purple
Oh my god.
 
Guns N' Roses' debut, Appetite for Destruction was a turning point for hard rock in the late '80s — it was a dirty, dangerous, and mean record in a time when heavy metal meant nothing but a good time. On the surface, Guns N' Roses may appear to celebrate the same things as their peers — namely, sex, liquor, drugs, and rock & roll — but there is a nasty edge to their songs, since Axl Rose doesn't see much fun in the urban sprawl of L.A. and its parade of heavy metal thugs, cheap women, booze, and crime. The music is as nasty as the lyrics, wallowing in a bluesy, metallic hard rock borrowed from Aerosmith, AC/DC, and countless faceless hard rock bands of the early '80s. It's a primal, sleazy sound that adds grit to already grim tales. It also makes Rose's misogyny, fear, and anger hard to dismiss as merely an artistic statement; this is music that sounds lived-in. And that's exactly why Appetite for Destruction is such a powerful record — not only does Rose have fears, but he also is vulnerable, particularly on the power ballad "Sweet Child O' Mine." He also has a talent for conveying the fears and horrors of the decaying inner city, whether it's on the charging "Welcome to the Jungle," the heroin ode "Mr. Brownstone," or "Paradise City," which simply wants out. But as good as Rose's lyrics and screeching vocals are, they wouldn't be nearly as effective without the twin-guitar interplay of Slash and Izzy Stradlin, who spit out riffs and solos better than any band since the Rolling Stones, and that's what makes Appetite for Destruction the best metal record of the late '80s.

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&a...10:wiftxqu5ldde

 
public enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back" is musical napalm. it rocks harder than pretty much everything listed. songwriting? check. great beats? check. attitude? check.
Is this the album that had the collaboration with Anthrax?
anthrax did a remix with PE on it...
"Bass, how low can you go...."God, I haven't heard that song in years. Good choice, with PE. I need to dig out some of their music. It's been over a decade since I listened to them.
i listen to "fear of a black planet" pretty regularly and it holds up really well. paired with "it takes a nation...", these might be the best 1-2 punch in music. they are just lights out fantastic.
Best 1-2 punch in music (albums released one after another)1. AfD, Lies - GNR2. Gentlemen, Black Love - Afghan Whigs3. Being THere, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - Wilco4. Strangers Almanac, Pneumonia - Whiskeytown
Other good 1-2's:Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets - MetallicaRevolver, Sgt. Pepper's - The BeatlesLed Zeppelin, Led Zeppelin IISticky Fingers, Exile on Main St. - The Rolling StonesHighway to Hell, Back In Black - AC/DCLicensed to Ill, Paul's Boutique - Beastie BoysOK Computer, Kid A - RadioheadBleach, Nevermind - NirvanaTen, Vs. - Pearl JamDark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here - Pink FloydAfter the Gold Rush, Harvest - Neil YoungThis is fun... should be it's own thread. Probably already is, but I am too lazy to search.
There was an interesting thread about three album stretches not long ago
 
Great album, but not Appetite great.
I like Ten better than AFD.
You're insane.
Really? Insane? That's Pearl Jam's "Ten." I could see this comment if I'd said I preferred the Candlebox record, but we're talking about two of the biggest landmark records of the last quarter century. It's a matter of personal taste. Appetite was the soundtrack of my hell-raising days (well, at least the age 16-18 years) but "Ten" was a life-chaning album for me.By the way, the Black Album is Metallica's 6th or 7th best album (if you count the original Garage Days.) Doesn't compare. This is coming from the guy who at the time was the biggest Metallica fan alive. But RTL/MOP, MOP/AJFA are both much better double-shots than Appetite/Lies.

Yes, Rocket Queen is the best song on the album.

I have no idea who Red Eyed & Blue is, but he knows good music. I like you, RE&B. VH1 is definitely in the conversation. DEFINITELY. And I still love Ice Cream Man. For Unlawful... sucked elephant genitals with the exception of "Poundcake", which rocks.

There are my thoughts on teh thread. :shrug:

 
public enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back" is musical napalm. it rocks harder than pretty much everything listed. songwriting? check. great beats? check. attitude? check.
Is this the album that had the collaboration with Anthrax?
anthrax did a remix with PE on it...
"Bass, how low can you go...."God, I haven't heard that song in years. Good choice, with PE. I need to dig out some of their music. It's been over a decade since I listened to them.
i listen to "fear of a black planet" pretty regularly and it holds up really well. paired with "it takes a nation...", these might be the best 1-2 punch in music. they are just lights out fantastic.
Best 1-2 punch in music (albums released one after another)1. AfD, Lies - GNR2. Gentlemen, Black Love - Afghan Whigs3. Being THere, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - Wilco4. Strangers Almanac, Pneumonia - Whiskeytown
Other good 1-2's:Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets - MetallicaRevolver, Sgt. Pepper's - The BeatlesLed Zeppelin, Led Zeppelin IISticky Fingers, Exile on Main St. - The Rolling StonesHighway to Hell, Back In Black - AC/DCLicensed to Ill, Paul's Boutique - Beastie BoysOK Computer, Kid A - RadioheadBleach, Nevermind - NirvanaTen, Vs. - Pearl JamDark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here - Pink FloydAfter the Gold Rush, Harvest - Neil YoungThis is fun... should be it's own thread. Probably already is, but I am too lazy to search.
:shrug:Where the hell have you been, man?
 
There are a ton. Off the top of my head I'd say:

any Kings of Leon album

1st and 3rd Strokes albums

Modest Mouse Good News... and We Were Dead....

 
Really? Insane? That's Pearl Jam's "Ten." I could see this comment if I'd said I preferred the Candlebox record, but we're talking about two of the biggest landmark records of the last quarter century. It's a matter of personal taste. Appetite was the soundtrack of my hell-raising days (well, at least the age 16-18 years) but "Ten" was a life-chaning album for me.

By the way, the Black Album is Metallica's 6th or 7th best album (if you count the original Garage Days.) Doesn't compare. This is coming from the guy who at the time was the biggest Metallica fan alive. But RTL/MOP, MOP/AJFA are both much better double-shots than Appetite/Lies.

Yes, Rocket Queen is the best song on the album.

I have no idea who Red Eyed & Blue is, but he knows good music. I like you, RE&B. VH1 is definitely in the conversation. DEFINITELY. And I still love Ice Cream Man. For Unlawful... sucked elephant genitals with the exception of "Poundcake", which rocks.

There are my thoughts on teh thread. :lmao:
Well said as usual GB. BTW.. you still down in Orlando? Gonna be down there for the annual pilgrimage Jan 23 - Feb 1st for the PGA show again.

If you can break free one night we need to go get a few dozen beers :fishy:

 
Just for the record, I far prefer Appetite to the Black Album, however the question was posed up top if anything tops the GnR record, and I think form a commercial stand point and also reaching across different ages, races, and overall popularity that Metallica's Black album had just as big an impact as GnR did. Is Metallica better earlier in their career...for many that answer is of course yes, but the Black album mirrors Appetite in a lot of ways.

A lot of the same people that bought into Appetite with the release of Sweet Child O' Mine are unfortunately the same people that lined up for Metallica's album as well.

I also think Ten is a great album but I'm not sure it belongs in the same conversation with these other two. A conversation about Nirvana, Pearl Jam, STP, and Alice in Chains would be interesting.

 
Arright, that was snobby, but the VH album with the saucy name just isn't in the same conversation.
The best songs on Appetite For Destruction are better than the best songs on For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.But the filler on F.U.CarnalKnowledge is better than the filler on AfD.

Out ta Get Me, Think About You, Anything Goes, You're Crazy :X

 
Arright, that was snobby, but the VH album with the saucy name just isn't in the same conversation.
The best songs on Appetite For Destruction are better than the best songs on For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.But the filler on F.U.CarnalKnowledge is better than the filler on AfD.

Out ta Get Me, Think About You, Anything Goes, You're Crazy :X
really only 2 "filler" songs on that album.
 
Great album, but not Appetite great.
I like Ten better than AFD.
You're insane.
Really? Insane? That's Pearl Jam's "Ten." I could see this comment if I'd said I preferred the Candlebox record, but we're talking about two of the biggest landmark records of the last quarter century. It's a matter of personal taste. Appetite was the soundtrack of my hell-raising days (well, at least the age 16-18 years) but "Ten" was a life-chaning album for me.By the way, the Black Album is Metallica's 6th or 7th best album (if you count the original Garage Days.) Doesn't compare. This is coming from the guy who at the time was the biggest Metallica fan alive. But RTL/MOP, MOP/AJFA are both much better double-shots than Appetite/Lies.

Yes, Rocket Queen is the best song on the album.

I have no idea who Red Eyed & Blue is, but he knows good music. I like you, RE&B. VH1 is definitely in the conversation. DEFINITELY. And I still love Ice Cream Man. For Unlawful... sucked elephant genitals with the exception of "Poundcake", which rocks.

There are my thoughts on teh thread. :lol:
Interesting tidbit about the song Rocket Queen I learned from reading Slash's autobiography. The girl moaning in the song is actually Axl and his then girlfriend having sex in the recording studio. The wanted an authentic sound and decided to have them go in there and go at it with the mics on
 
public enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back" is musical napalm. it rocks harder than pretty much everything listed. songwriting? check. great beats? check. attitude? check.
:lmao: Nation of Millions is pretty much the greatest album ever made
oh god
Besides any of John Mayer's work, of course.
Honestly, there's nothing you can say here. Just oh god.
 
public enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back" is musical napalm. it rocks harder than pretty much everything listed. songwriting? check. great beats? check. attitude? check.
:goodposting: Nation of Millions is pretty much the greatest album ever made
oh god
Besides any of John Mayer's work, of course.
Honestly, there's nothing you can say here. Just oh god.
Phthalate answered the question incorrectly, but he's right: you like John Mayer and supposedly have a penis, and that means you are not allowed to comment or give your opinion about any of these matters.I'm going to score this round a draw.
 
If you want to leave anything that is considered "punk rock" out, it's hard to make a case for anything being better than Appetite. Certainly nothing that's been mentioned in here yet.

 
On the anniversary of Freddie Mercury's death, I'd like to nominate both The Miracle and Innuendo. Not exactly rock-and-roll, but they're both full of well-crafted pop songs.

 
Toxicity by System of A Down was solid front to back.

Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness by Smashing Pumpkins up there.

Nevermind definitely in the mix.

Good call on Metallica and Tom Petty.

Others to consider - Marshall Mathers LP by Eminem. Monster by REM. All That You Can't Leave Behind by U2.

 
As good or better...

The Black Crowes - Shake Your Money Maker (1990)

Metallica - Metallica (1991)

Van Halen - For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge (1991)

Pearl Jam - Ten (1991)
:goodposting: Ten was close but forget that other crap.

 
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Metallica - Metallica (1991)
Eh. And Justice for All (1988) > Appetite For Destruction >>> Black Album
:goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: …And Justice for All

OK Computer, Superunknown, and BSSM are all right there. I saw Guns, Metallica, and Soundgarden live and all three were crazy good. Soundgarden may have been the best actually. REM was also vg (saw them 3-4 times) but thats a different kind of music IMO.

 
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Nothing really comes close to Appetite IMHO.

In the running for second place:

Oasis - What's the Story Morning Glory, underrated by Americans

Black Crowes - Shake Your Moneymaker, one of a kind

Radiohead - the Bends, still their own genre

Nirvana - Unplugged, stood up better for me personally than Nevermind

Never been a huge Metalica guy, but I can understand those that argue for their stuff.

 
Nothing really comes close to Appetite IMHO.

In the running for second place:

Oasis - What's the Story Morning Glory, underrated by Americans

Black Crowes - Shake Your Moneymaker, one of a kind

Radiohead - the Bends, still their own genre

Nirvana - Unplugged, stood up better for me personally than Nevermind

Never been a huge Metalica guy, but I can understand those that argue for their stuff.
:goodposting:
 
I'd put Appetite and Nevermind in the top tier, probably Ten as well. Personally I don't think much of anything Pearl Jam did after Ten, but Ten is an almost flawless album. I guess if forced to choose I'd take Nevermind since it has the highest peaks in my opinion.

Loved the Screaming Trees mention, they are incredibly underrated, they needed to come out about 5 years earlier or 5 years later and they would have big. Sweet Oblivion is probably a top-5 favorite of mine.

I'd put Dirt, Metallica(self-titled) and Rage(self-titled) as equally good as the top tier, but you have to be in a certain mood to really enjoy any of them.

I'd rank Songs for the Deaf by Queens of the Stone Age as the top rock album of the 00's.

 
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I could probably name at least 100, but I listen to a crapload of music, the majority of which isn't well-known or mainstream.

Besides, I have never thought GnR was that great (one of the most overrated bands ever), and while AFD is a good record, I think it is highly overrated. It is one of those albums that casual music fans eat up, but hardcore music fans seldom rate too highly. I hope that didn't sound elitist. :confused:

Also, since you asked to list at least one album since that is better, I will go with an obvious choice, and one that many probably are familiar with:

Radiohead - OK Computer

 
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