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As a guy who has worked in the "building electronic gadgets and all the stuff that goes in to them" industry for a while I can say that they aren't losing much, if anything. Furthermore, I don't think the idea was to make money on the Hardware but rather get more people using Google services, so who cares if the loss is magnified by $24?They're probably losing money on the hardware even when selling it at full price. The Netflix deal must have been raping them.That makes no sense. Google should only be so lucky as to have a hardware hit on its hands. if they end up having to subsidize the Netflix promo, they should. Hell, if they need to BUY netflix they should. Furthermore I can't believe with all the data at their disposal they were unable to forecast demand.
So cancelling orders and removing the netflix promo. Hats off to those who got these early... was a good deal. At a full $35 with a month lead time... ehhh....
The cancled order thing with me is purely a Best Buy ####over.
So cancelling orders and removing the netflix promo. Hats off to those who got these early... was a good deal. At a full $35 with a month lead time... ehhh....
$24 * 1,000,000ish is a lot more than $24.As a guy who has worked in the "building electronic gadgets and all the stuff that goes in to them" industry for a while I can say that they aren't losing much, if anything. Furthermore, I don't think the idea was to make money on the Hardware but rather get more people using Google services, so who cares if the loss is magnified by $24?They're probably losing money on the hardware even when selling it at full price. The Netflix deal must have been raping them.That makes no sense. Google should only be so lucky as to have a hardware hit on its hands. if they end up having to subsidize the Netflix promo, they should. Hell, if they need to BUY netflix they should. Furthermore I can't believe with all the data at their disposal they were unable to forecast demand.
So cancelling orders and removing the netflix promo. Hats off to those who got these early... was a good deal. At a full $35 with a month lead time... ehhh....
Well, I meant if the additional sunk cost is $24 per household to get the device in. Seems like a fairly small number for a company that has had no fewer than two miststeps (Revue, Nexus Q) trying to get on to people's TV's. In other words, considering the APple TV has 50+% of the streaming market, how much money per user would GOogle pay to erode that share. "Larry, I can get you guys in to a million homes across the country for 50 million bucks. Cool? How about two million homes for 100 million? Money well spent?" I think they'd say yes immediately.$24 * 1,000,000ish is a lot more than $24.As a guy who has worked in the "building electronic gadgets and all the stuff that goes in to them" industry for a while I can say that they aren't losing much, if anything. Furthermore, I don't think the idea was to make money on the Hardware but rather get more people using Google services, so who cares if the loss is magnified by $24?They're probably losing money on the hardware even when selling it at full price. The Netflix deal must have been raping them.That makes no sense. Google should only be so lucky as to have a hardware hit on its hands. if they end up having to subsidize the Netflix promo, they should. Hell, if they need to BUY netflix they should. Furthermore I can't believe with all the data at their disposal they were unable to forecast demand.
So cancelling orders and removing the netflix promo. Hats off to those who got these early... was a good deal. At a full $35 with a month lead time... ehhh....
Trying to find a link. Read that in a story this morning about the google offering. I assumed they were talking about set top items like Roku and the review and not all sources of streaming.
Abraham said:Well, I meant if the additional sunk cost is $24 per household to get the device in. Seems like a fairly small number for a company that has had no fewer than two miststeps (Revue, Nexus Q) trying to get on to people's TV's. In other words, considering the APple TV has 50+% of the streaming market, how much money per user would GOogle pay to erode that share. "Larry, I can get you guys in to a million homes across the country for 50 million bucks. Cool? How about two million homes for 100 million? Money well spent?" I think they'd say yes immediately.Cliff Clavin said:$24 * 1,000,000ish is a lot more than $24.Abraham said:As a guy who has worked in the "building electronic gadgets and all the stuff that goes in to them" industry for a while I can say that they aren't losing much, if anything. Furthermore, I don't think the idea was to make money on the Hardware but rather get more people using Google services, so who cares if the loss is magnified by $24?Cliff Clavin said:They're probably losing money on the hardware even when selling it at full price. The Netflix deal must have been raping them.Abraham said:That makes no sense. Google should only be so lucky as to have a hardware hit on its hands. if they end up having to subsidize the Netflix promo, they should. Hell, if they need to BUY netflix they should. Furthermore I can't believe with all the data at their disposal they were unable to forecast demand.[icon] said:Cliff Clavin said:
So cancelling orders and removing the netflix promo. Hats off to those who got these early... was a good deal. At a full $35 with a month lead time... ehhh....
Sounds like it could be a cool solution for digital signage. Can it stream a PowerPoint or Keynote slide presentation?jamny said:It would make for a nice clean setup on a plasma. No need to keep the laptop on the shelf or safelock or having to run wires to another location.drummer said:jamny said:
How would you apply it?
Doesn't seem like it yet but maybe you can convert a PP file to something comparable in Google. I've never used Chrome until downloading it today, so I'm interested in seeing where this goes. Plenty of potential.Sounds like it could be a cool solution for digital signage. Can it stream a PowerPoint or Keynote slide presentation?jamny said:It would make for a nice clean setup on a plasma. No need to keep the laptop on the shelf or safelock or having to run wires to another location.drummer said:jamny said:
How would you apply it?
There are "powerpoint" like presentations that run in your browser - look up Reveal.js or slid.es - playing them through Chrome should do the trick for presentations.Sounds like it could be a cool solution for digital signage. Can it stream a PowerPoint or Keynote slide presentation?jamny said:It would make for a nice clean setup on a plasma. No need to keep the laptop on the shelf or safelock or having to run wires to another location.drummer said:jamny said:
How would you apply it?
At this point, Google can do pretty much anything and no one complains. But its only a matter of time. See: Apple
Carrying audio is a huge plus. Would be even cooler if there were network possibilities. I've had to string CAT5 with Magenta converters just for audio carry along with graphics to several displays from one source. I can see this device have potential in trade booths as well.Doesn't seem like it yet but maybe you can convert a PP file to something comparable in Google. I've never used Chrome until downloading it today, so I'm interested in seeing where this goes. Plenty of potential.Sounds like it could be a cool solution for digital signage. Can it stream a PowerPoint or Keynote slide presentation?jamny said:It would make for a nice clean setup on a plasma. No need to keep the laptop on the shelf or safelock or having to run wires to another location.drummer said:jamny said:
How would you apply it?
I use the Xbox 360 to stream and watch all my media. The advantage I see with this device is that i can carry it on the road with me. A lot of the hotels I stay at now have good sized TV's with HDMI ports.
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But they didn't "switch" anything.
Not sure why anything I said would make you think I am 15. I am a Developer and Gamer. I prefer using one device and the 360 is the best platform I have found so far.
BUT THEY WERE OFFERING NETFLIX AND NOW THEY ENDED THAT PROMOTION!!!!!But they didn't "switch" anything.See OP.
Thought it was worth buying at $11. Don't think it is at $35 for me.Why?
Well they were offering the netflix discount getting people excited about that price point and then they took it away. Whether it was intentional, horrible forecasting on the part of google or it was their intended purpose to only offer that discount for a very short time period is unknown.But they didn't "switch" anything.
Right, but it's not like they kept the order and switched in something less valuable (or nothing at all) than the Netflix description.Well they were offering the netflix discount getting people excited about that price point and then they took it away. Whether it was intentional, horrible forecasting on the part of google or it was their intended purpose to only offer that discount for a very short time period is unknown.But they didn't "switch" anything.
But they're going on ebay for $70!Thought it was worth buying at $11. Don't think it is at $35 for me.
Well there were plenty of people, myself included, that bought it with the netflix offer still being listed. They should have pulled that offer as soon as the supply ran out. I might not have ordered it right away but the $11 deal was too good to pass upRight, but it's not like they kept the order and switched in something less valuable (or nothing at all) than the Netflix description.Well they were offering the netflix discount getting people excited about that price point and then they took it away. Whether it was intentional, horrible forecasting on the part of google or it was their intended purpose to only offer that discount for a very short time period is unknown.But they didn't "switch" anything.
People aren't out anything with a canceled order and everyone that ordered one will get the Netflix discount.
The caveat of "while supplies last" (implied in this case, I guess) doesn't make it "bait and switch" when those supplies run out.
Was there a caveat of "while supplies last" on the netflix promotion or just on the chromecast itself? If so, then i take back my joke.Right, but it's not like they kept the order and switched in something less valuable (or nothing at all) than the Netflix description.Well they were offering the netflix discount getting people excited about that price point and then they took it away. Whether it was intentional, horrible forecasting on the part of google or it was their intended purpose to only offer that discount for a very short time period is unknown.But they didn't "switch" anything.
People aren't out anything with a canceled order and everyone that ordered one will get the Netflix discount.
The caveat of "while supplies last" (implied in this case, I guess) doesn't make it "bait and switch" when those supplies run out.
